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00:00:07Hello and welcome, thank you for joining us
00:00:07but in the long term we will save on France 24 and France Info. Here are the
00:00:09money. And you, Cécile de headlines of this
00:00:11news report: The Pope is in France for
00:00:154 days, and already this first day has been marked by popular rejoicing
00:00:19during his procession through Paris, or also during the vigil that young people held for him
00:00:23at the Stade de France. We will tell you about
00:00:26this incredible first day.
00:00:30Negotiations that were ready to be reopened, the Iranians
00:00:34said they had a plan that was only waiting for Washington's approval, but Donald
00:00:37Trump has just refused it with measures
00:00:41requested from the Americans that were not new, already existed in the
00:00:44joint agreement protocol.
00:00:48And then we'll talk about football with Zinedine Zidane's first match as
00:00:51coach, which ended in a 1-0 victory against
00:00:55Turkey, but Killian Mbappé will
00:00:58sexual violence and also the question of shorten his time with the Blues due to injury. More in the summary to follow.
00:01:14There were 8,000 young people at the Stade de France to celebrate the Pope's arrival,
00:01:18cheering their faith, their joy, and also their concerns about the
00:01:21future world. At the end of a long day, after a visit to the Élysée, a speech at
00:01:25UNESCO, and the celebration of vespers at
00:01:28Notre Dame de Paris, the Holy Father met with the youth of
00:01:32France, to whom he delivered a message of hope and love.
00:01:35Listen to him:
00:01:38For me, to live is to
00:01:42cry. We repeat this declaration
00:01:45of love. We will share
00:01:49the experience of the apostle.
00:01:52The one who testifies that God is
00:01:56never a stranger to his life, but
00:02:00that, on the contrary, he
00:02:02comes to meet
00:02:05him. A little earlier, the Pope had been the first head of the church to return to
00:02:09Notre Dame de Paris since its reopening a year and a
00:02:12half ago. He arrived at the end of a procession through the streets of
00:02:16Paris and a meeting with Emmanuel Macron. We'll review this day with Victor
00:02:19Faubert.
00:02:23An apostolic, historic, and
00:02:25political visit. The first steps of Pope Leo XIV in France were on
00:02:29a red carpet. From the tarmac of Orly to the courtyard of
00:02:33the Élysée where the Pope gave an
00:02:37offensive speech in French. I sometimes note with
00:02:41concern the current deviations of societies
00:02:45Europe, there's a lot of talk about that risk diverting science and
00:02:48technology into lucrative enterprises
00:02:51favoring genetic manipulation,
00:02:55surrogacy, the buying
00:02:58of organs.
00:03:03A jab two months after
00:03:06from the head of Russian the adoption of the law on assisted dying in France, the sovereign pontiff also attacked those who
00:03:10distort the principle of secularism and
00:03:12warned against the dangers of artificial intelligence. The numerous
00:03:16communication channels risk multiplying false
00:03:20information and giving more importance to
00:03:24meaningless words, thus hindering dialogue rather than
00:03:28strengthening it. Artificial intelligence amplifies this
00:03:31problem. Such systems
00:03:35can use data, yes, but they cannot
00:03:39answer questions about the meaning of human
00:03:42life. As Leo XIV embarks on his Popemobile,
00:03:45Parisians gather to catch a glimpse of him
00:03:49during his procession through the fervent streets, a very
00:03:53actually prove that it's young crowd. There are schools that have passed, families all around. There are older
00:03:56people, there are disabled people. In fact, it's very, very popular, very family-oriented.
00:04:00All the people come to see a Pope who is for them, for
00:04:03some a religious leader, for others someone who inspires
00:04:06them, who gives them warmth in their hearts. So after
00:04:12a woman like, for example, Marie-Laure de vespers at Notre Dame, the Pope ended his day at the Stade de France with a vigil
00:04:15in front of 80,000 young people gathered like for a
00:04:19rockstar.
00:04:24For me, to live is to
00:04:27cry. Let us repeat
00:04:30this declaration of love. We
00:04:34will share the experience of
00:04:38the apostle. He testifies that
00:04:41God is never a stranger to his life, but
00:04:45that, on the contrary, he comes to meet
00:04:47him. Leo XIV continues his visit this
00:04:51Sunday with a visit to a migrant center, then a mass
00:04:55on Place de la Concorde in front of 600,000
00:04:58people.
00:05:02In international news in Ukraine, seven dead in Kyiv this Friday after multiple
00:05:05drone attacks, another person died in
00:05:09Odesa due to the multiple attacks, a factory of the company
00:05:12Darcelor Mital will close deeming its operation impossible after
00:05:16being hit four times in 5 weeks, Vladimir
00:05:19Putin also wants to reflect before any resumption of talks after
00:05:23Ukrainian attacks. We'll get back to the latest strikes with Gooliver
00:05:26Crack. Friday was particularly
00:05:30intense in terms of Russian strikes on Kyiv in a period where since the end of
00:05:33August, these strikes are almost daily and often
00:05:37several strikes per day. Essentially, they are Shahed-type
00:05:40drones equipped with jet engines that are sold to
00:05:44Russia by China, so they are much faster.
00:05:47The deadliest attack was this afternoon on a non-residential
00:05:51building in a district west of downtown
00:05:54Kyiv, a building that houses offices but
00:05:58also a data center. There have been several
00:06:02attacks on this type of installation in recent days in Kyiv, causing
00:06:05internet outages, connection shortages for the moment which
00:06:09have been short- lived. I was about
00:06:13to go there to show you the damage to this building when the sirens sounded
00:06:17again and very shortly after the sirens sounded, I heard a
00:06:20fairly strong explosion. There's smoke visible in the garme district,
00:06:24but we don't know yet what exactly was hit in
00:06:28that district, and then earlier in the day, this morning, there
00:06:32was a series of strikes on districts close to the city center in
00:06:36Kyiv, especially the Petchersk district, where a
00:06:4014-year-old child was killed in his
00:06:42apartment.
00:06:45Iran submitted a 7-day plan to the United States for a reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, a plan that
00:06:49Donald Trump reportedly refused according to the Wall Street Journal. The measures that
00:06:52Tehran is proposing are not new and were already included in the memorandum
00:06:56of understanding signed in June, which led to divergent interpretations on
00:07:00the subject. The Wall Street Journal states that Donald Trump is
00:07:04skeptical about Tehran's ability to meet his
00:07:07demands. The Iranian regime has, for its part, requested the lifting,
00:07:11notably, of the freezing of Iranian
00:07:15assets and the lifting of economic sanctions. Listen to the
00:07:18Iranian Foreign
00:07:20Minister.
00:07:24Iran has submitted a concrete 7-day plan to the United States via
00:07:28Qatar. If the necessary conditions are
00:07:31met, the strait could be reopened and normal maritime
00:07:35navigation restored within this 7-day
00:07:37period.
00:07:40The decision now rests with
00:07:46threats or intimidation and will not give up its sovereignty under
00:07:49pressure.
00:07:55And to cope with soaring gasoline prices in
00:07:58the possibility of a tax cut on
00:08:01fuel. This is being done in other countries, but not in France. The
00:08:05President of the Republic, in his interview on Thursday, did not rule it
00:08:08out, but it would be a measure that would come at a cost to our public finances.
00:08:15And if fuel taxes decrease, many
00:08:18motorists are in favor. So
00:08:21if we can have a small reduction even at the tax level, I think it could
00:08:25do a world of good. I put all my money into gas
00:08:29and well, frankly, for me that would be good, that would already be a good start.
00:08:32An option that Emmanuel Macron no longer excludes, even if it is far from
00:08:36being favored by the government. Taxes
00:08:39represent almost half the price of fuels. For Sample
00:08:4395, bought at 2.22 per liter,
00:08:46€1.18 corresponds to the purchase and distribution of
00:08:49oil. The rest are taxes, but
00:08:53lowering them by 20 cents per liter would cost 1 billion
00:08:56euros per month. This expense
00:08:59divided,
00:09:01I don't think the state can afford to lower taxes. We are so in debt that we have no
00:09:05choice, in fact. There's already a colossal debt in France, but constantly
00:09:09passing it on to people who live in this country is not...
00:09:12tolerable either. Lowering taxes, some European
00:09:15countries have taken the plunge, Spain and Italy
00:09:19since spring, but both countries are gradually
00:09:22ending it. Germany, on the other hand, is reducing its fuel
00:09:26taxes starting next week. France had
00:09:30also made this choice at the beginning of the war in Ukraine, but can no
00:09:33longer afford it, according to this
00:09:35economist.
00:09:38In 2022, it will be exactly the opposite, the French state had put a lot of money on the
00:09:41table where its neighbors had done much less and implemented fewer measures,
00:09:45but that also partly explains, not entirely but partly, why our public finances
00:09:49are more degraded today and why we have somewhat used up our room for
00:09:52maneuver. In 2022, fuel aid
00:09:55cost the French state almost 8 billion
00:13:21the day's agenda: Saturday, September 26th.
00:13:24First, in New York, the UN General Assembly continues, a speech
00:13:27is expected
00:13:31diplomacy, Sergey Lavrov. In
00:13:34Paris, we are obviously still in the excitement of the Pope's
00:13:37visit, with this highlight, the mass, Place de la
00:13:40Concorde, at 3 p.m. in Paris. Afterwards, the
00:13:43Holy Father will fly to Lourdes. More than
00:13:47260 mobilizations are also planned throughout
00:13:50France for the great march for the climate, life, peace and social
00:14:36Hello everyone and welcome to Actual, parliamentarians are
00:14:40examining in France the comprehensive bill aimed at
00:14:44combating sexist and sexual violence. We will talk about it in a
00:14:54things in our country after an accumulation of scandals and judicial
00:14:57failures, and as victims' voices are increasingly heard,
00:15:01let's look back at the origins of this text with David
00:15:05Gilberg. The comprehensive
00:15:07law, the comprehensive law, interrupted
00:15:11during the summer, mobilization resumed with renewed vigor in early
00:15:13September. Every Monday in front of the Ministry of Justice, women,
00:15:17predominantly, continue to put pressure on the political
00:15:20power. They have already obtained the submission to Parliament of a
00:15:24proposal for...
00:15:32from prevention to criminal response, including victim support and
00:15:36reparation. We know all too well that
00:15:39unfortunately we can vote for rights, we can advance subjects, but if the
00:15:43means don't follow in our state, then unfortunately they will be of little
00:15:46effect and rarely implemented. And precisely, criticisms
00:15:50have already multiplied. In a special committee, deputies notably
00:15:54removed one of the flagship measures, the compulsory annual interview for
00:15:58all students to detect violence, due to lack of necessary
00:16:01budget. More broadly, associations and opposition representatives
00:16:05denounce a lack of additional means. To implement
00:16:08the 69 articles of the law, the billions
00:16:11announced to combat sexist and sexual violence and protect
00:16:14children, in reality, the announced sums were only
00:16:18existing ones. The one and a half billion euros to combat
00:16:22VSS, and the 2.6 billion for child protection planned in
00:16:26the next budget, are indeed only the redirection of
00:16:29existing funding. For the government, the change is
00:16:33above all a matter of method, and it is in this that the
00:16:36so-called comprehensive 360-degree response that
00:16:39involves all stakeholders in perhaps
00:16:43a completely new way in the cultural and political approach, I strongly
00:16:46believe in it. A law modeled on what exists in
00:16:50Spain that the French authorities have resolved to present in the face of the
00:16:54emotion aroused by the Lianna affair, this 11-year-old girl
00:16:57killed last June. The main suspect had been reported several
00:17:00times over 9 years without being investigated by the justice system. The anger was too
00:17:04great to be ignored, while the trial for the rapes of Mazan and the figure of
00:17:08Gisèle Pelico had already strengthened the determination of
00:17:11activists fighting against VSS. The scandal
00:17:15of extracurricular activities in Parisian schools and the numerous acts of violence by facilitators that went
00:17:19unpunished have also intensified this fight for a comprehensive
00:17:22law. A cause that continues to generate a lot
00:17:25of expectations and is now a political issue, as evidenced by the
00:17:29parade of presidential candidates at the weekly gatherings in Place
00:17:41hello, you are a journalist, documentary filmmaker, you notably directed
00:17:45this film, La Fabrique du Mensonge, about the trial between
00:17:49Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. You also filed a complaint for sexual harassment
00:17:53against the French journalist, news anchor Patrick Poivre
00:17:56d'Arvor. And also with us, Violente des Philippistes
00:18:00Abaté, hello, you are spokesperson for the Feminist Coalition for Comprehensive
00:18:04Law. You are also a lawyer, author. You
00:18:07notably wrote La Résistance Écarlate, les femmes face au nouveau
00:18:18could we have had this proposed
00:18:21comprehensive law if there hadn't been the Lianna, Pelico,
00:18:25Me Too cases, etc.? Me Too, you have to know that it's almost going to be
00:18:299 years, so it's very long. You noted that I was one of the
00:18:33people who filed a complaint against Patrick Poivre d'Arvor. I think it's
00:18:37also, uh, cases like
00:18:40that which led to a social awareness, but it's very,
00:18:44very slow in France. Yes, it's the Lianna case that may have
00:18:48triggered it, but it's also all the cases before, and what's
00:18:51interesting about this comprehensive law is that it's
00:18:54a work of at least 2 years. We've been thinking about all this for at least 2
00:18:58years, and what do you expect from this law?
00:19:01Well, everything.
00:19:04Obviously, as we understood very well in the subject we just
00:19:08saw, a lot of hope, a lot of fear also that it won't work because
00:19:12there's this idea that it's a bit of an open door
00:19:15and that once it's open, if we don't act right away,
00:19:19well, we're doomed. Violente de Philippé Sabaté, there
00:19:23are more than 200 feminist organizations that have looked into the issue and
00:19:26made 140 proposals. Do you think that the comprehensive law,
00:19:30as it was voted in committee and is about to be debated in Parliament, is
00:19:34complete? It will never be perfect, but in any case, it answers the
00:19:37need. For example, when you file a complaint today, you have no
00:19:41legal guarantee that an investigation will be conducted within a
00:19:44reasonable time, or even that a certain number of investigative
00:19:48acts will be carried out before the prosecutor makes a
00:19:51decision. In other words, today a case can be closed even though
00:19:55no investigation has been carried out or even though the investigations that have been
00:19:58carried out are largely insufficient. When we look at the articles that have been
00:20:02proposed, there is notably this creation of specialized jurisdictions, which has
00:20:06existed for a very long time in... How do you explain that France
00:20:09is only addressing this issue today, while other countries are much further ahead than us?
00:20:13Indeed, it was implemented in the early 2000s,
00:20:17and it works well on the ground, investigations are carried out much more
00:20:20quickly. Of course, there are also flaws there that
00:20:23still persist, but it's still much better. In France, it's not the first time we've talked about
00:20:27it, and indeed it could still change a lot of things, because having specialized
00:20:30jurisdictions ensures that the magistrates who handle the
00:20:34cases, but also all the actors in the judicial chain, are specially
00:20:37trained, especially in the mechanism of psychotrauma, because today post-traumatic
00:20:41stress disorder, traumatic memory, these are things that are not very well understood even by the judicial
00:20:44staff themselves. Cécile de la Rue, do you think this
00:20:48law is complete or is there something missing? No, it's not
00:20:51complete. I am fighting for us to add coercive control, which
00:20:55is a very important element
00:20:58that does not exist in the
00:21:01French legislative system, whereas it exists in Canada,
00:21:05it exists in England, it exists in many other countries, and
00:21:08the idea is to have a tool that can take into account this other violence, which
00:21:12is a much more complex violence that the judicial system is unable
00:21:16to grasp. It will be violence about how
00:21:20we dress, how we raise children, how
00:21:23we will manage the budget, well, it's a lot of small things, in
00:21:27fact, when you want to go to court with that, you can't
00:21:31grasp it. So an invisible prison, exactly, it's an
00:21:34invisible prison in which the
00:21:38victims obviously don't even realize it, but the idea is that it's not just
00:21:41bruises that kill and that there's another violence that exists and
00:21:45precisely on these questions of sexist and
00:21:48incest. The weight given to the child's word
00:21:52or the lack of weight, the time that passes before victims understand
00:21:56or remember what happened to them. This is the case, for example,
00:21:59of Mie Koiyama, she is the founder of the Brave Movement, she is on
00:22:03Aurore Du Puy's microphone, let's listen, when I was 5
00:22:06years old, I was raped, sexually assaulted by a 39-year-old cousin,
00:22:10and he had taught me to ride a bicycle, I only rode a bicycle four times
00:22:13at the time, and we went down this alley and
00:22:17that's where the first rape occurred. These crimes were so old for the brain of the
00:22:21little girl I was that I had 32 years of traumatic amnesia.
00:22:24In 2011, I filed a complaint for these
00:22:28rapes and
00:22:31the justice told me that the facts were
00:22:34prescribed since the law that applied
00:22:38to the crimes I had suffered was 10 years after the facts, so I should have
00:22:42filed a complaint at 15, except that I couldn't because I had no
00:22:45memory of these rapes. Violène de Philippis Abaté, when you hear her, what does
00:22:49this testimony inspire in you? Well, I think
00:22:52it's unfortunately representative of what many
00:22:56victims experience who go through a whole life, so I believe that
00:23:00it also raises the problem of
00:23:02prescription, because if we know today medically that
00:23:06victims may not remember the assault for decades
00:23:10and decades and decades, then the law should be able to take into account
00:23:13this problem by stopping to prohibit
00:23:16filing a complaint after a certain period on the...
00:23:20denunciation, the problem is that filing a complaint is extremely complicated, we see
00:23:24in recent cases of sexual violence, I'm thinking for example of the
00:23:27singer Patrick Bruel who is accused of rape, sexual assault, sexual
00:23:30harassment by more than 30 women to date, the actor
00:23:34Gerard Depardieu who is also accused of rape, sexual assault, two people who
00:23:38remain, we emphasize again, presumed innocent, and
00:23:41yet the complaints have accumulated, sometimes dozens of
00:23:45complaints, women who are very much in the mud,
00:23:48you yourself, Cécile de la Rue, you filed a complaint against the journalist Patrick Poivre-Davor
00:23:52(PPDA) for sexual harassment, when you filed
00:23:55a complaint, did you think that it had a chance of succeeding or did
00:23:59you know that it was a David against
00:24:02Goliath fight? The first ones in fact who dared to speak and file a complaint
00:24:05filed a complaint above all to be able to support another complaint
00:24:09which was that of Florence Porcel who had spoken first and whose case was not time-barred, and we
00:24:13in fact testified to say, "Listen, we don't know this woman,
00:24:16but what we do know is that what happened to us resembles what this woman is going through strangely enough."
00:24:20We weren't necessarily expecting justice to hear us, but it was also above all for
00:24:24society to hear us and for us to understand that it wasn't
00:24:27just a news item, but that it was a societal
00:24:30issue, and that's why now the victims of Patrick
00:24:33Poivre-d'Arvor, like the victims of Patrick Bruel,
00:24:37are campaigning by saying, "The violence happens in such a way that we can
00:24:43a series of acts, and therefore the statute of limitations should
00:24:46be able to be overridden, if I may say so, regarding the notion of prescription.
00:24:50sliding that allows to attach a misdemeanor or
00:24:53a crime, a more recent crime that is not
00:24:56prescribed, which would allow us to recover the other complaints, and that allows
00:25:02La Tre, who is a woman who was raped
00:25:0541 years ago now during the Cannes Film Festival, at the time she wanted to file
00:25:09a complaint, her complaint was refused, as still happens
00:25:12today, anyway, but that would allow her
00:25:15perhaps to get justice and also
00:25:17perhaps to stop the acts because we don't know if this man continues, I
00:25:21remind you that Patrick Poivre-d'Arvor is under investigation, but he hasn't even been taken into police custody, yes, and
00:25:25he remains presumed innocent for the moment, yes, that being said, I
00:25:29want to ask you the question, when you see this comprehensive law that is being examined today,
00:25:33are you optimistic for the future? I would have liked, for example, the
00:25:36annual interview that was initially requested by the associations to be
00:25:40maintained by the special commission, so that has apparently gone from
00:25:44mandatory to optional, I hope that it could be debated in
00:25:47the assembly, but on that I am less optimistic. So the
00:25:50budget issues were invoked, of course, but precisely, we had estimated the needs
00:25:54at 3 billion more than what currently exists per year, I would remind
00:25:58you that sexual violence costs much more in terms of repression
00:26:02of others, incarceration, etc. today, so
00:26:05in reality, it is certainly an important investment
00:26:11La Rue, optimistic? Well, I am optimistic because, well, already
00:26:15you know, I was just watching the victim you had testify, who was able to
00:26:19testify, and I tell myself, I've been a journalist for 25 years and I've been covering this kind of
00:26:23subject. 25 years ago, it wouldn't have been possible to talk about such
00:26:26intimate things like that in the street, to be filmed and then
00:26:30to be broadcast on an international channel? So I'm optimistic about that. I'm
00:26:34very pessimistic about the rest too because I'm very afraid that, yes, it won't have the
00:26:38budget, that ultimately everything will be cut. We are facing a
00:26:42system that doesn't believe children, that doesn't believe women. We are in a system
00:26:45where women are second-class citizens. Well, we hope in any case that
00:26:49this comprehensive law will mark a change, perhaps
00:30:07Hello and welcome, thank you for following us on France 24 and France Info.
00:30:10Here are the headlines of this newscast. Pope
00:30:13Leo is in France for 4 days, and already this first day was
00:30:17marked by popular rejoicing during his walk through Paris or
00:30:20during the vigil that the youth held for him at the Stade de
00:30:24France. We tell you about this incredible first
00:30:27day.
00:30:30Negotiations that were ready to be opened. The
00:30:33Iranians said in any case they had a plan that was just waiting for Washington's approval, but
00:30:37Donald Trump has just refused
00:30:40it with measures requested from the Americans that were not new, already existed in the
00:30:44joint memorandum
00:30:45of understanding,
00:30:48and then we'll talk football with Zinedine Zidane's first match as
00:30:51coach which ended with a 1-0 victory against
00:30:55Turkey, Kylian Mbappé will cut short his time with Les Bleus due to
00:30:59an injury.