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00:00:00but he immediately specified the term combat and he says: I
00:00:03quote, the word as well as the image are now clear to us, the fight
00:00:07to which we are invited is that of faith, and he says: it is not a fight
00:00:10against others, it is not a fight that uses the weapons of violence, of
00:00:14contempt, of oppression, our only weapon is that of love that gives
00:00:18itself, it is absolutely radical, it is
00:00:22absolutely, I would say
00:00:25strange in a world that is saturated by power relations and by the
00:00:29quest for... meaning, but this is
00:00:32state visit, the Holy See refused indeed the meaning of the Gospel and the message that the
00:00:34Pope wanted to address to young French people.
00:00:37Thank you, Pierre Jova,
00:00:40choosing the the the Constance, Colona Cesari, I turn to
00:00:43arrested by immigration police. you, we are going to try to move forward
00:00:45more than a few hours now, it is 9:30 in
00:00:50visit of the head of Paris, the mass in Place de la Concorde, it is around
00:00:523 PM, 6000 people expected,
00:00:56even more, because the perimeter has been extended beyond the...
00:01:00the Concorde for those who don't know Paris, to the Avenue de la Grande Armée,
00:01:03the Champs-Élysées and so on, you were talking earlier
00:01:07about meetings between Pope Leo XIV and the French,
00:01:10Monsignor Aveline, who is the president of the Conference of Bishops, says that
00:01:14Pope Leo XIV is interested in France, that there is in France a
00:01:17desire for Leo XIV, is that a word that
00:01:21you would take up for yourself
00:01:24regarding his desire, yes, I think so, he said that he
00:01:28wanted to see Notre Dame again.
00:01:31center in the country. uh, which means he had seen it when he was young,
00:01:33he also showed in this speech at the Élysée
00:01:37how much French culture, the arts of
00:01:40France, that's what I was saying earlier, Pierre Giovat, but it's
00:01:43important and that's a place that France occupies
00:01:47also in the imagination of all popes, we are a place of
00:01:51culture, we are a place of excellence, he underlined it, he
00:01:54used this word, he flattered President Macron
00:01:58by talking to him about his, by reminding him of his beautiful speech at the Collège
00:02:02des Bernardins where he had said in 2018: "I want to repair
00:02:06the damaged link between the Church and
00:02:08France." There you go, he flattered him a bit, stroked the President
00:02:12in the right way, because he does have areas where he doesn't have
00:02:16misunderstandings, and it's true that I think that
00:02:18he's someone who first of all has
00:02:21French roots and and his grandmother was
00:02:25Jefferson was the Pastor's volunteer French, oh yes, but really uh his great-grandmother
00:02:28too, uh...
00:02:30leave. The community of on his father's side and on his mother's side, so he is very French and in
00:02:33fact I read the article written by a
00:02:37researcher from Argenton-sur-Creuse that I wanted
00:02:40to send and present to the Nunciature so that she
00:02:44could present her work to the
00:02:46current events in the 27 countries of Pope herself, we know that his great guest confronted with the burning issues of family, his great-grandparents lived on Rue
00:02:49Saint-Dominique in those neighborhoods through which he passed
00:02:52yesterday in the 14th arrondissement, that they worked
00:02:58this sect within in a sugar company Rubinton, well he is... connected to France by his paternal
00:03:02and maternal side, he loves this country, a priori, he was
00:03:05happy, that's true, Cardinal Avelline also
00:03:09somewhat forced his hand to make him put France
00:03:12on the agenda of his travels, his
00:03:15fourth, well fifth trip
00:03:18abroad instead of Peru, but Peru which he will visit
00:03:22soon because that too is his other country, there you go, but no,
00:03:26no, I think he's very happy to be here, in fact, I think we see him moved.
00:03:30uh here, he even wiped away a tear
00:03:33yesterday at the Stade de France, it was really obvious, his
00:03:37eyes were shining, we saw him at ease, we see him
00:03:40smiling, he spoke in French, and he spoke in
00:03:42French, in Macron's way, Constance
00:03:45César, you were talking about Emmanuel Macron who will not
00:03:49be at the mass today, who will
00:03:52not be at any mass anyway, do you think
00:03:56his absence will have an impact? Listen?
00:04:00So we don't quite understand why he went to attend Pope
00:04:04Francis's mass at the Vélodrome
00:04:07in 2023 in Marseille and
00:04:10why he is not here in the name of the same
00:04:13secularism which would forbid him, which
00:04:16is a mistaken interpretation in my opinion, which he didn't do, which is not the
00:04:20same as the one he made in 2023.
00:04:23There you go, his place perhaps other
00:04:26political leaders incidentally presidential candidates.
00:04:30They will be there today in Place de la Concorde. So listen,
00:04:33the Prime Minister will be there, uh Brigitte Macron will be there.
00:04:37Gabriel
00:04:40there you go, not the left apparently, no left-wing candidate will
00:04:43be there but there you go, so on
00:04:47the absence specifically of the president, there you go, who perhaps
00:04:51hours a day with no way to wanted to show a his first match as coach of mood also, uh
00:04:54since the Holy See refused certain
00:04:58aspects of the trip and... certain appointments
00:05:01midday, a complete tour of that the President would have liked to place on the agenda,
00:05:04notably a dinner at the Élysée, notably something
00:05:08more substantial at the time of the
00:05:11arrival at the airport and then
00:05:14an award ceremony, so there you go, is that what angered him? He would have
00:05:18refused the Legion of Honor apparently, there you go, there you go, since he doesn't
00:05:21want to be there to receive medals, which is not
00:05:25exactly in the
00:05:27DNA of popes to go and be decorated
00:05:31by presidents, so because it is also, as we
00:05:35recall, an apostolic visit, he said: I am
00:05:39here as a pastor, there you go, there you go, absolutely, so it is not a
00:05:44the protocol, behind the state
00:05:47visit, there are gestures, particular acts, by
00:05:52strict uh
00:05:55I was going to say domain protocol of the apostolic
00:05:58visit, here we have a
00:06:02the Catholic Church to his local church, the Church
00:06:06of France and to its faithful to revive faith
00:06:09in a country, to verify that everything is... well, that
00:06:13everyone is doing well in his church and incidentally, to
00:06:16visit a country too, even if it's not a state visit. Pierre
00:06:20Jehova, if you are still with us in duplex, what
00:06:24can we expect today there at the Place de la
00:06:28Concorde in your opinion?
00:06:31It will be a great joy, a great popular moment, uh
00:06:34it will be a mass, a mass of the people of God, I
00:06:38think there is truly great joy among French Catholics.
00:06:42since yesterday and I also believe a joy and a curiosity
00:06:46that goes beyond Catholic circles, you were talking
00:06:49about the Pope's desire to better understand France and the desire of some
00:06:53French people to better understand the Pope, I think that in our
00:06:56secularized society, paradoxically there is a
00:06:59desire for God, there is a desire to know more about
00:07:03spirituality, about the meaning of life, uh, on Monday the
00:07:07Pope will be in Metz, I will be there myself, and in the diocese
00:07:10of Metz, imagine that... in 2017 there were 27
00:07:14adult baptisms and in
00:07:172026 this year there were 192, nearly
00:07:20200, it's a reflection of France where baptisms
00:07:24have increased uh really exponentially, adult baptisms,
00:07:27and so I think we should truly rejoice in this
00:07:31curiosity, in this spiritual
00:07:34hunger that runs through our people, and I believe that even if it's
00:07:37entirely their choice not to come and attend this afternoon's mass,
00:07:41I believe... that French politicians, especially those preparing
00:07:45for the highest office, would do well
00:07:48to take it into account and keep an eye on it, stay with us Pierre
00:07:51Geovat, I'm going back to find Mélina Huette who
00:07:55is near the Bakita house in the 18th
00:07:59arrondissement of Paris, Mélina, the Pope is about
00:08:02to leave, we are starting to hear his first
00:08:05words, he has pleaded for living together in
00:08:09dignity and peace, a message launched in the presence
00:08:13of exiles whom he is meeting, the meeting will
00:08:16end in not
00:08:19long.
00:08:23Yes, absolutely, you know it because you have the pool images, as they say
00:08:27in the jargon, and he has finished his speech, we feel it on site
00:08:30because the police motorcyclists have just restarted their
00:08:34vehicles and are about to leave, you will see behind me everyone,
00:08:37anyway, you see the journalists who are
00:08:40ready to take pictures. Departure of this delegation. There
00:08:44is indeed Mélina, the image of the Pope who is coming out of this Bagita house
00:08:47and greeting the crowd not
00:08:49far away.
00:08:54Exactly, so in the neighborhood there are a lot of people who have
00:08:57gathered, a lot of people have gathered in the
00:09:01neighborhood, you can't see them because they are behind the police barriers that we were able
00:09:05to pass through as journalists, but everyone wants to see the Pope
00:09:08of course, here it is still the objective since it is a
00:09:12historical visit, and in this neighborhood we are
00:09:15not used to having this kind of visit, you see the motorcyclists leaving behind
00:09:19me, that's it, as you said earlier, the
00:09:22Pope has finished his speech, a speech that was very
00:09:26short but very spiritual with references to saints, to
00:09:29the Gospels, he mentioned Saint Bakita, named after
00:09:33this house where he met staff members,
00:09:36volunteers and exiles, Bakita
00:09:39who, according to the Pope, invites us to see the...
00:09:42invisible, it echoes the phrase painted on a wall of this
00:09:46Bakita house right next to where I am standing, taken from the Gospel of
00:09:49Matthew, I quote: "I was a stranger and you welcomed
00:09:53me." So there you see the cars moving away
00:09:57behind me, to come back a little to his words and his
00:10:00speech, it's a passage he had already quoted last
00:10:04June in the Canaries, I explained that a bit earlier when he
00:10:07had come to pay tribute to migrants who lost
00:10:10their lives notably in the Mediterranean trying
00:10:14to cross, he had thrown flowers into the sea to pay
00:10:17tribute to the people who lost their lives on the path of exile
00:10:21in search of a future. Thank you very much
00:10:25Melina Uet, we will find you later
00:10:28for more information, images of this Saturday
00:10:32morning, the Pope is leaving the Bakita house
00:10:36and the day will continue with a
00:10:39detour to the Catholic Institute of Paris before this famous
00:10:42mass at Place de la Concorde and then later the
00:10:46departure for Lourdes, Constance
00:10:49Césarie Colona, among the statements that are starting to come in and
00:10:52that we need to remember,
00:10:56Leo XIV reportedly declared notably,
00:10:59"The history of the Church and humanity is not written by those who give the impression
00:11:03of winning by imposing themselves and occupying space, but by those
00:11:07who make room who establish peace
00:11:11processes following trust and encouraging
00:11:15life," a statement from this Saturday morning.
00:11:17So far no lack of coherence to
00:11:21note, quite the contrary, no, but I think we won't catch the
00:11:25Pope in the trap of getting the message
00:11:28wrong and advocating for secularism or
00:11:32laws uh that
00:11:34would infringe on the conception of life that the Church
00:11:38knows how to defend, but still he always uses
00:11:42a bit of this same vocabulary, life, the slogan of the trip is "For the world
00:11:46and life," so you see we are on the theme of life, of
00:11:49the protection of life and of the most vulnerable, but I note
00:11:52anyway that with this Pope, as perhaps already
00:11:56with his predecessor, unlike, I would
00:11:59say, John Paul II and Benedict XVI who continued in a
00:12:03slightly more conservative vein and
00:12:05less focused on the world, less focused on the social
00:12:09doctrine of the Church and more on ultimately an internal
00:12:13message to the Church, well this Pope, he does
00:12:16not lecture, you see, even when he talks to young people,
00:12:20he doesn't tell them how they should behave, you see a
00:12:23vocabulary that has disappeared from the mouths, I think, of popes,
00:12:27it's sexual morality, family morality, you remember
00:12:31John Paul II who spoke, who condemned condoms, who
00:12:34said sex is a best, is a wonderful gift from God but
00:12:38reserved for marriage, phrases like that
00:12:42that said what was the morality of the Church in
00:12:46matters, particularly sexual, of private things, there he doesn't
00:12:50have that at all in the mouths of these recent popes, the discourse has
00:12:53changed and I find that
00:12:57this man, we see him, he is a firm
00:13:00Pope, but who doesn't get angry, who
00:13:03doesn't make reproaches, complaints, and speaking
00:13:07of firmness, Constant Césari Colona, we are going to close
00:13:11this very extensive edition dedicated to this trip
00:13:14to the Bakita house, speaking of firmness, the Pope's Lourdes
00:13:18stage, we are thinking obviously of
00:13:23the Catholic Church, towards which, we are talking about the priestly
00:13:26fraternity of Saint Pius X, towards
00:13:29which Leo XIV showed himself very, very
00:13:32firm, even more than Francis before him, so how
00:13:36is this stage in Lourdes shaping up? So Lourdes, it's
00:13:39really not, well, it's again pastoral
00:13:43work, the fragile people, the
00:13:46sick people and also the victims of sexual abuse, he
00:13:50is going to meet seven people who have been designated by
00:13:53associations, uh... including people who are there
00:13:56because they experienced abuses at Betarram who will
00:14:00ask for the suppression of the congregation of the Fathers of Betarram,
00:14:04so there you go, he has these people, we also hope that this
00:14:08Pope will be firm also on his handling of
00:14:12sexual scandals in the Church and that it will progress perhaps even faster,
00:14:15but he will not speak, in my opinion, to the
00:14:18traditionalists, I think he has settled, as you said, very clearly
00:14:22the chapter, these people want to continue to ordain...
00:14:25bishops, while in canon law, it is the Pope who ordains
00:14:29bishops, that falls, I would say,
00:14:32immediate excommunication, ipso facto, there you go,
00:14:34so he didn't compromise,
00:14:38he didn't try to win them back, anyway these people want to leave
00:14:41the Church in a way, we're going to leave, Constance
00:14:45Colonna, on these images I think we're getting from the Place de la Concorde
00:14:49where this mass will take place later, thank you very much
00:14:52for continuing to follow us, you will
00:14:56remain for a good part of the day to continue to explain all this to us, to
00:15:00enlighten us. France 24
00:15:03continues on France 24 and on France24.com in English, French,
00:16:03I've been there about thirty times in the last 7 or 8
00:16:06months. and each time it is extremely
00:16:09difficult
00:16:12every Friday Diane, a pastor in San Antonio,
00:16:15hits the road to visit families
00:16:37All these roofs you see are part of the
00:16:39complex, there's a guard right at
00:16:42the entrance,
00:16:45if agents think you're doing something suspicious or filming, I
00:16:49will be immediately denied access to the
00:16:51center.
00:16:54We let Diane go through security
00:16:55alone.
00:16:58ICE systematically denies journalists access. Dilé
00:17:02can accommodate up to 2400 people, making
00:17:05it the largest family detention
00:17:08From the inside, there are only these official
00:17:11images, a virtual tour of
00:17:14the facility, dormitories and classrooms.
00:17:18classes.
00:17:20Outside, we find Diane who was able to speak with three
00:17:24families during 2 hours of
00:17:25visit.
00:17:28The first person I spoke to had been arrested 10 days earlier and
00:17:32transferred here. She was completely
00:17:35devastated. She told me she was considering giving up and
00:17:39leaving. Her 9-year-old daughter was hardly
00:17:43eating. She cried throughout the
00:17:45visit. No child should be placed in
00:17:49detention. This center has no reason to exist. It
00:17:53only serves to make families suffer and traumatize children.
00:17:57Since the beginning of Donald Trump's second term, more than 6200
00:18:01children have been placed in detention by
00:18:03ICE.
00:18:07operations across the country. new video shows what appears to be ice
00:18:11agents arresting a man inside an Oregon home depot. one and
00:18:15four ice arrest happened in Texas under the president's
00:18:18immigration crackdown. life for one San Antonio family turned
00:18:22upside down when a mother and two children
00:18:24were
00:18:28taken. It was Monday, April 27th, 7:30 in the
00:18:32morning. As I was walking to the bus stop with the children,
00:18:36that's when the agents from...
00:18:53As I was leaving the apartment, I realized I didn't have the keys. I turned back. As I was returning, I saw that they were arresting my family. They approached with their vehicles, got out, surrounded us, and that's when they started asking if I
00:18:57was named Josene. I told them no. They checked
00:19:00everything, and they said, "Okay, you're not the one we're
00:19:03looking for, but you've still committed a crime and you must come with us."
00:19:08My children were crying, so I decided not to prolong things and not
00:19:12make the situation even more tense. I said, "Okay, children,
00:19:15we'll go with them, may God be with
00:19:17us."
00:19:23The policy of incarcerating migrants, this Venezuelan family experienced it
00:19:27directly. To avoid being arrested, Victor took
00:19:31refuge at home, his partner and his two children were first
00:19:35taken by immigration police to these...
00:19:40Once there, they constantly asked me to call my husband, so he
00:19:44would come to the premises, so they wouldn't separate me from the children, because
00:19:48they threatened to take them to a detention center for minors, those
00:19:52hours at the ICE premises were very difficult
00:19:54emotionally, because I didn't know what was going to
00:19:57happen, to avoid being incarcerated himself,
00:20:01Victor refused, after 12 hours, in the middle
00:20:04of the night, his family was transferred to Diley.
00:20:08It is a center adapted for young children, they have
00:20:12some recreational activities to make the days pass faster,
00:20:14but for us, the adults, the days were
00:20:17very long, and since I didn't sleep
00:20:21well, the nights were
00:20:22endless.
00:20:25There was a light on 24
00:20:29turn it off, there were rounds all night, so sleeping was
00:20:32complicated and the food was very
00:20:35bad.
00:20:37With the help of their lawyer, the mobilization is organized around
00:20:40Victor, because the family entered legally into the United States, the parents
00:20:44have work permits, the children are in school,
00:20:48so their arrest causes.
00:21:07This situation really destroyed me,
00:21:10it was very hard to see them take my family away, the children are
00:21:14excellent students, they have values, an
00:21:17education, to see them go through
00:21:20such an ordeal without being able to do
00:21:23anything, as a father, it
00:21:24broke me,
00:21:30destroyed me. You would think that they would target people with a criminal past first,
00:21:33since that's the promise Donald Trump is campaigning on and the message hammered home by his
00:21:37administration, but that's absolutely not what's happening, the children and families who are
00:21:41sent to Dilley had built their lives in the United States, overnight
00:21:45they are imprisoned as if they were criminals.
00:21:48It's a trauma for them, for the parents, for everyone. Of
00:21:52about 400,000 people detained by ICE in a year and a half, less than
00:21:5640% had a criminal record.
00:22:10It's mass time for Pastor Diane, she founded this
00:22:14congregation almost 4 years ago, with one goal, to offer
00:22:17migrants a community and a church.
00:22:45Church, about fifty with the
00:22:48children, before there were many more of us.
00:22:50About a quarter of the families in our community have seen one of their loved ones
00:22:53arrested and then expelled.
00:22:57Very often these families end up leaving the region. This
00:23:00policy is destroying the very fabric of our
00:23:03community. Dialine is Jefferson's
00:23:06wife. Her husband was arrested by ICE last
00:23:10November 6th during a routine traffic stop.
00:23:15assistant. He was always the first to arrive and the last to
00:23:20La Roca del Refugio is like my family, it's immense help
00:23:24for me and for my daughters, without this community, I don't know what
00:23:28my life would be today.
00:23:53Jefferson is detained 2 hours away from San Antonio, despite the
00:23:56risks, he agreed to testify openly, the
00:24:00family from Venezuela entered the United States in 2024
00:24:04seeking asylum.
00:24:08I had never been separated from my daughters, my daughters had never been
00:24:11separated from their father for so long, they suffer a lot, just like me, I suffer
00:24:14from being separated from them without knowing what they are going to do with us
00:24:17here.
00:24:20For 8 months, he has been living in this center called Don
00:24:22Outo. To achieve their expulsion goals, authorities
00:24:26push detainees to leave the territory in exchange for a sum
00:24:30of money.
00:24:33Right now, we are told that whoever signs receives 2600
00:24:36dollars. I don't want to accept their money. What I want
00:24:40is to be given a chance in this country where I seek to build a future for my
00:24:43daughters. So that they can study, without
00:24:45leaving.
00:24:48Asserting his rights, even if it means enduring
00:24:52difficult living conditions, a room of a few square meters shared
00:24:55with another detainee, care that is lacking.
00:24:58défaut,
00:25:02The people who died in detention centers, it's because they were not
00:25:06treated quickly, sometimes we hear on the news that we have the
00:25:10best medical care, but it's false, I saw with my own
00:25:13eyes one day a 50-year-old man have a cardiac arrest and they took
00:25:17about 20 minutes to arrive to get him out of his cell.
00:25:21We all started screaming, making noise for them to come, and
00:25:24it was only after a long time that they came to
00:25:26get him.
00:25:32According to Human Rights Watch, in a year and a half, at least 54 people
00:25:35have died in ICE prisons, including about ten by suicide. The rate
00:25:39the mortality rate has more than doubled compared to previous years. The
00:25:43majority of detention centers are not directly managed by the Department of Homeland
00:25:47Security, but subcontracted to companies. like Core
00:25:50Civic,
00:25:53this journalist wanted to obtain a copy of the contract that governs the Dîlet
00:25:57center. In its response, the legal department
00:26:00of Core Civic refused. but attached to the email, a
00:26:04document by mistake. This is the contract between the
00:26:07Department of Homeland Security and the city of Diley, which then served
00:26:10as an intermediary for the contract concluded with Core Civic. In this
00:26:14new version, the monthly amount increases from 12.6 to
00:26:1713.1 million dollars. This is the sum that
00:26:20the company receives each month, simply to maintain the center in
00:26:24capacity to accommodate up to 2400 people. The
00:26:27contract provides for a fixed amount, regardless of the actual number of
00:26:30detainees. In exchange.
00:26:32Core Civic commits to providing a minimum of services, food,
00:26:36education, health, but does the company fulfill its
00:26:39obligations? Impossible to verify. One thing is certain, Core Civic's
00:26:42revenues related to ICE have multiplied by
00:26:462 in 1 year.
00:26:49these companies have every interest in reducing their costs as much as possible since it is up to them to
00:26:52finance the daily operation of these centers with this monthly
00:26:56allowance.
00:26:59so if Core Civic receives 13.1 million dollars. per month, but
00:27:03it manages to operate the center by spending only 2
00:27:06million, all the rest is profit for
00:27:09the company. The Trump administration plans
00:27:12to further expand its network of ICE detention centers with
00:27:1645 billion dollars allocated by
00:27:182029.
00:27:23For families like Jefferson's and Dialine's, separation
00:27:27makes daily life difficult to continue to
00:27:30pay the rent and send a little...
00:27:39I go out every day with fear in my stomach because my daughters stay at
00:27:42home and I have to leave at 5 am.
00:27:46About 15 days ago where I was, there was a raid with
00:27:50about 15 ICE cars encircling the area, but
00:27:53thank God they didn't enter, but they
00:27:57took a lot of people and I was very scared because I told myself if they catch me
00:28:00here, my daughters are alone at home.
00:28:06It's hard for them when I leave, and since their
00:28:09dad is no longer here, when I come home, they say: "Oh mom, you're here, we were scared, we
00:28:13prayed, she also suffers
00:28:15a lot."
00:28:21Jefferson was finally released a few days after our
00:28:24interview. The family still hopes to build a better
00:28:27future on this land of immigration, which has become a land
00:28:31of expulsion.
00:28:36In Europe, he leads, he decides, facing Caroline
00:28:40de Camaré, they answer all your questions, the Americans are
00:28:44unpredictable, a
00:28:49the Union and the concerns of citizens. He has only one
00:28:52dictator, that's Mr. Putin. Here
00:28:56is Europe, we are listening to you, presented by Caroline de Camaret, to
00:28:59be seen on France 24.
00:30:07This is Paris direct for you, we are together until 2 pm, welcome,
00:30:10we obviously continue to follow this visit of Leo XIV in France, the
00:30:14Pope has already visited a center dedicated to the reception and integration
00:30:18of exiled people, it is located in the north of Paris, he called for living
00:30:22together in dignity and peace, we find on site
00:30:25Melina Huette. Meanwhile, the faithful are beginning to
00:30:29flock to the Place de la Concorde and the Champs. The Pope
00:30:33who will celebrate an XXL mass starting at
00:30:363 pm, he will descend, he will descend, sorry, before going to the
00:30:39Champs-Élysées, this is one of the highlights of this visit, as well as the meeting
00:30:43with catechumens, it will be discussed in a moment with Constance Colona
00:30:47Cesari.
00:30:50Zinedine Zidane has reason to be satisfied with
00:30:53the French team, a 1-0 victory against Turkey in the Nations League, but
00:30:57this victory was overshadowed by a