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00:00:09Good evening everyone and thank you for joining us on France 24. Leading this
00:00:12newscast, Pope is expected in Lourdes. He
00:00:16will begin with a prayer in the Grotto of Apparitions, that will be in a few
00:00:19moments, but before that, this afternoon 700,000 people had
00:00:23gathered in Place de la Concorde in Paris for a giant
00:00:27mass, the highlights in a moment. No
00:00:30reception, Donald Trump rejects Iran's offer to
00:00:34reopen the Strait of Hormuz within 7 days. It was at the UN General Assembly
00:00:37this week that
00:00:41proposal during the UN General Assembly Tehran made the proposal, but the American president believes that the Iranian regime is losing
00:00:45the game, we will come back to that in this
00:00:47newscast. An expulsion that causes a
00:00:50real outcry in Spain, hundreds of people are currently demonstrating in
00:00:54Madrid to support Marie Carmen, an 87-year-old
00:00:58woman who lived in an apartment in the center of the capital for 7
00:01:02decades, expelled by the real estate agency that had bought
00:01:05her home, an illustration of the housing
00:01:09Formerly known as the Venice of crisis in Spain, we will be live from Madrid in a moment with Selma Hajbuusian.
00:01:27Pope Leo 14 is therefore expected in Lourdes
00:01:30in a few minutes after an XXL mass
00:01:34in Place de la Concorde in Paris. 700,000 people from all over
00:01:37France gathered for the Pope's giant mass,
00:01:41he again addressed young people after the prayer vigil dedicated
00:01:45to them yesterday at the Stade de France, so what can
00:01:49we take away from this day of this fervor in Paris
00:01:52in a moment, the details from Marie Schuster who was
00:01:54there.
00:01:59There is great fervor, that's what we can take away from this
00:02:02XXL mass as you said. So right now as I speak to
00:02:05you, the giant screens are off, traffic will
00:02:08reopen here on
00:02:11the Champs-Élysées. There are still some people, we crossed
00:02:15just a moment ago
00:02:18your program with the French Caisse a convent of people who are part of a convent who
00:02:20must hurry Monteldi not to be
00:02:24in traffic jams, they have a 5-hour drive. In any case, we felt this fervor
00:02:28all day long, we were in the middle of the...
00:02:30crowd on the Champs-Élysées with my cameraman Fabrice
00:02:34Houssou, a fervor at the passage of the Popemobile,
00:02:37of course, where people were pushing to
00:02:40catch a glimpse of the Pope, a fervor also at the end of this mass
00:02:43where the faithful who had gathered there
00:02:48popular backgrounds, they are more often from since the beginning of the morning raised as one man the small Vatican flags that had
00:02:51been distributed to them at the entrance of the checkpoints and
00:02:55then warmly applauded Leo 14 and
00:02:58on the screens. I can assure you that many also
00:03:02felt the emotion of the Pope himself,
00:03:05the emotion regarding this welcome he received
00:03:09in the French capital. Next steps for
00:03:12Pope Leo XIV on this apostolic journey this evening in
00:03:16Lourdes and tomorrow and Monday, excuse me, in Mess for a final
00:03:21These new Catholics are changing the face of celebration to which will be invited, excuse me, the heads of European
00:03:24renewing it from states, and on his agenda
00:03:27tomorrow in Lourdes, Pope Leo XIV is to meet
00:03:30seven victims of sexual violence committed within the Church,
00:03:34a closed-door meeting, among these people, there is a victim of Abbé
00:03:38Pierre and a former student of Betarram, two cases that
00:03:41shook French society
00:03:43and Tanaji.
00:03:46The mosaics adorning the facade of the Rosary Basilica in
00:03:50Lourdes hidden for the visit of Pope
00:03:53Leo XIV. They are the work of the artist and Jesuit
00:03:56priest Marco Roupnik, accused
00:03:59of sexual assault and psychological manipulation by several of his
00:04:03former collaborators, including nuns. The
00:04:06Vatican would not have exerted any pressure to conceal them, according to the Bishop
00:04:10of Tarbes and Lourdes, who invokes a symbolic decision
00:04:13out of respect for the pilgrims.
00:04:17It's important because my clients' accounts have revealed that they themselves
00:04:21suffered abuse at
00:04:23Your program with the Caisse des Français de the time the artwork itself was being
00:04:25created.
00:04:28During his visit to Lourdes scheduled for Sunday, the Pope will
00:04:327 days, it was during the UN General Assembly meet seven victims of sexual abuse within the French
00:04:34clergy. More than words and condemnations, many
00:04:38victims are now awaiting action from Pope Leo XIV,
00:04:42who recently described sexual abuse committed in the Church as an open
00:04:45wound, and we obviously hope
00:04:49that this meeting will be strong and not
00:04:53only in terms of emotion, but in
00:04:56terms of taking a stand and that
00:04:59he will display... an absolute shame regarding
00:05:02all those priests who committed the unspeakable. In
00:05:062021, a report by an independent commission
00:05:09estimated at 33,000 the number
00:05:12of children who suffered sexual violence within the Catholic Church in
00:05:15France, abuses that are 7 decades old. The
00:05:19restorative bodies created by the episcopate after the publication of this
00:05:23report, as well as victims' groups, are already calling it
00:05:27a missed opportunity, they would have preferred a collective
00:05:30discussion lasting a whole day. Catholic
00:05:33authorities have put in place protection measures and financial
00:05:36compensation, but victims continue to demand
00:05:39accountability and more prevention.
00:05:45In other news, Donald Trump rejects Iran's offer to
00:05:48reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Tehran submitted this
00:05:53this week for a reopening of the passage within 7
00:05:57days, and according to the Wall Street Journal, the American
00:06:00president would even consider resuming
00:06:03bombings on Iran after the midterm elections in November.
00:06:07Axel Simon:
00:06:10Have you talked about the war with Iran?
00:06:12Will there be progress regarding the Strait of Hormuz? I think we will make excellent
00:06:16progress, progress announced but which will still be
00:06:20delayed. According to the Wall Street Journal, Donald Trump on Friday
00:06:24rejected an Iranian proposal to reopen the Strait of
00:06:28Hormuz within 7 days, which is currently locked. The proposal
00:06:31formulated by Tehran through Qatari mediators provided
00:06:35for the reopening of this strategic shipping lane and the suspension
00:06:39of fighting in the region, including in Lebanon. In return, broader
00:06:42negotiations would have been initiated, the United States would have
00:06:46lifted the blockade of Iranian ports, unfrozen
00:06:49funds and renounced oil sanctions against Iran.
00:06:53Unacceptable for Donald Trump, the American president believes, according to the
00:06:57Wall Street Journal, that the Islamic Republic will not keep its
00:07:00commitments. The American president, who would not rule out
00:07:03memorandum of understanding signed in June between mid-term legislative elections on
00:07:07November 3rd. Unacceptable threats according to the head of Iranian
00:07:11diplomacy.
00:07:13Iran accepts neither coercion, nor threats, nor intimidation and
00:07:17will not give up its sovereign rights under pressure, sovereignty is
00:07:21not conditional,
00:07:24diplomacy does not mean capitulation and peace
00:07:27cannot be built on threats
00:07:29of annihilation.
00:07:32The stalemate thus continues on both sides and Donald Trump has even
00:07:36added fuel to the fire with this map published on his social
00:07:39network which proposes to rename the... Strait of Hormuz Trump, the
00:07:43Trump, le protocole d'accord signé en juin entre
00:07:47Tehran and Washington provided however for an end to the war,
00:07:51to reopen this strategic maritime passage and to conduct
00:07:54talks on the ultra-sensitive issue of the Iranian nuclear
00:07:57program, but no significant progress has been made
00:08:00since its signing.
00:08:04An eviction that caused a real outcry in Spain, hundreds
00:08:08of people are protesting in Madrid right now to support
00:08:11Mar. an 87-year-old woman who lived in an apartment
00:08:15in the center of the Spanish capital for 7
00:08:18decades. She was evicted by the real estate agency that
00:08:21bought her home. We listen to her before
00:08:25we find Selma Hajbuusian in Madrid
00:08:28by phone.
00:08:33Selma, yes,
00:08:36Selma, there you go, you hear me, the
00:08:40demonstration started a few moments ago. There was already another one
00:08:43last Wednesday, so the
00:08:46mobilization for Marie Carmen does not weaken
00:08:50only. Yes, absolutely, there's a new
00:08:53demonstration, as you just said here, taking place right
00:08:56now. It follows the first demonstration that took place
00:09:00Wednesday afternoon following Marie Carmen's eviction.
00:09:03This time, tens of thousands of people went
00:09:07to demonstrate against this eviction, but more
00:09:11broadly against the housing crisis in Madrid and
00:09:15in Spain. This demonstration was organized by the Madrid tenants'
00:09:18union with the support of Marie Carmen,
00:09:21who this afternoon asked Spaniards to
00:09:25mobilize for the right to housing and for changes to be
00:09:29made to the law. A complex situation that
00:09:32continues and has become unbearable for millions
00:09:35of Spaniards who are revolted and who see their
00:09:38rents increase year after year.
00:09:42Rents that have increased by more than 30% between
00:09:462021 and 2024, while wages themselves have
00:09:50only increased by 7.9% during the same
00:09:53period. A high-tension situation
00:09:56that fuels this housing crisis that Spain has
00:10:00been facing again in recent
00:10:02years. Thank you, Selma
00:10:05Hajbudyan for being live with us by phone
00:10:09from Madrid as well. These
00:10:12catastrophic floods in Bangkok, the Thai capital is under
00:10:16water, after torrential rains, the state of natural
00:10:20disaster has been declared throughout the city, the torrential
00:10:23rains are uninterrupted. The last 48 hours have
00:10:26caused significant floods. Axel
00:10:29Simon.
00:10:32Submerged roads and residents forced to move through more
00:10:36than twenty centimeters of water. As Bangkok's
00:10:39canals overflow and water seeps into buildings, life
00:10:42continues at all costs in the streets of the Thai capital under the
00:10:46torrential rains.
00:10:50I am in shock, honestly, this situation is quite
00:10:52frightening. Saturday
00:10:56evening, the situation was considered stabilized, even if
00:11:00the roads are still flooded, the damage is already
00:11:03considerable, according to the Bangkok authorities, the most
00:11:06affected part is the east of the city, they have opened
00:11:09several temporary shelters in schools and have prepared 1 million sandbags
00:11:13for residents to
00:11:14protect their homes and businesses.
00:11:17The warnings were rather limited this time, the only real alert came
00:11:21Thursday morning via a notification on our phones.
00:11:25Before that, I wasn't sufficiently informed to consider taking refuge
00:11:29elsewhere.
00:11:34the East, Bangkok is built on old swamps and is organized
00:11:38around a vast network of canals. The Thai capital
00:11:41regularly experiences seasonal floods, particularly in
00:11:44September during the monsoon
00:11:46season.
00:11:49It's been 10 or 15 years since we've seen such rain and this level of flooding
00:11:52here.
00:11:56In 2011, major floods throughout Thailand had
00:11:59killed more than 500 people and damaged millions of
00:12:02homes.
00:12:06During his travels in Paris, Pope Leo 14 highlighted this
00:12:10trend, the number of adolescent and adult baptisms is exploding in France, a
00:12:14phenomenon that has been surprising for several years, more than
00:12:1721,000 catechumens received the sacrament this year, it's a
00:12:21record, as explained this renewed interest in the Catholic
00:12:25religion, it's our magazine, it's in France,
00:12:43des Français de l'Étranger, health insurance and retirement, the CFE, the
00:12:46social security for
00:12:47expatriates.
00:13:05A trend that no one saw coming, for
00:13:09several years, the number of baptisms has been exploding among young people in
00:13:13France. I baptize you in the name of the
00:13:16Father, when I arrived 8 years ago, 10 baptisms per
00:13:20year and we are preparing to welcome 45 or 50
00:13:23baptisms for next Easter.
00:13:27A phenomenon that can be explained by a difficult current
00:13:29context, but not only, yes, I can say I had a
00:13:33personal encounter with
00:13:35Jesus,
00:13:38what does the Catholic Church have to say about the meaning of life? That was really my
00:13:41approach.
00:13:46the Church and
00:13:49within.
00:14:00Joann and Mathieu have been friends for 4 years, they met
00:14:04on the university benches in Paris not far from this
00:14:08climbing wall. It's an interesting sport and it has a lot of
00:14:12implicit communication especially through the
00:14:14rope and and yeah you have to trust each other it's
00:14:17cool a complicity based on a common desire for
00:14:21performance.
00:14:25Come on,
00:14:29but for Johanne, physical exertion is no longer
00:14:31enough, and soon she embarks on a quest for
00:14:34spirituality, I didn't grow up in a religious environment at
00:14:38all, on the contrary, we talked very little about God, when we talked about God, it was more to say
00:14:41that everyone should do as they wanted and that I shouldn't be
00:14:45imposed something, my mother is agnostic and my
00:14:48father, however, who is deeply atheist and rather
00:14:51anticlerical.
00:14:54Yet, at her grandmother's funeral, Johanne hears
00:14:57Ave Maria, a Catholic song that
00:15:00moves him deeply. I was asking myself questions about what the real meaning of
00:15:03life was, and well I knew that religions in general
00:15:07could potentially answer that, or at least offer an answer, and I knew that
00:15:11Mathieu, my best friend, was Catholic, so I told him:
00:15:15"Listen Mathieu, if you go to mass, I'd
00:15:19be willing to go with you to
00:15:20see."
00:15:23A curiosity shared by many.
00:15:39"The pandemic, the war in Ukraine, the worsening
00:15:42of global warming make the future seem darker
00:15:46than modernity, which seemed to offer solutions to the problems of human
00:15:50life, sometimes appears as a threat, and that religion
00:15:53in general, spirituality
00:15:55regains credibility among younger
00:15:58generations.
00:16:05Generally, young people when they arrive at the
00:16:08church and knock on the door, they have already traveled a path. For some, it has been a
00:16:11question since their childhood, they were not baptized because their parents were not
00:16:14believers, not practicing. There is a path, for some it is a very
00:16:18recent experience, it can be a sudden discovery
00:16:21of God in a church, a reading of the Bible that has transformed their
00:16:25lives,
00:16:27and then there is a moment when they are invited to come to what
00:16:31we call here the youth mass, a mass that gathers nearly 100 young people and they
00:16:34experience that they are not the only ones asking themselves
00:16:38the question, here I think, about 20% of our assembly are people who are not
00:16:42baptized or who are
00:16:44returning.
00:16:48Among these new Catholics, Malik, a lawyer
00:16:51of Senegalese origin and Muslim
00:16:53culture. When he arrives in Paris for his
00:16:57studies, Malik feels an immense
00:16:59void, so he immerses himself in the
00:17:02Bible.
00:17:06For over 10 years, he has come to go to churches several
00:17:09times because I wanted to see paintings, because I like
00:17:12architecture, but as soon as I felt a mass
00:17:15starting, I would run away because I didn't feel at
00:17:19home, because I told myself that the Catholics would gather
00:17:23among themselves and I didn't belong to that world, so I had to
00:17:26leave.
00:17:30In 2021, a friend will invite me to her wedding mass. I will
00:17:34find myself for the first time in a mass after the...
00:17:38host, I will understand that God had always been there for me,
00:17:42it's a bit like this phrase that continues to make me live today, it's
00:17:45Jacob who says that, when he wakes up one morning, he says: God
00:17:49was there and I did not know it, it's this phrase that
00:17:52worked on me, I understood that God had
00:17:55always been there, who had led me and that I was discovering him at that
00:17:59moment, for this new generation, religion
00:18:02is no longer a taboo or an
00:18:05obligation.
00:18:07Religion ceases to be a legacy that one receives at birth and that is
00:18:11transmitted automatically from one
00:18:14generation to another, to become more of a free choice.
00:18:18So compared to the typical profile of Catholicism, these
00:18:21new baptized people bring diversity, they come from more
00:18:26immigration, they diversify the image of Catholicism and break
00:18:29the stereotypes associated
00:18:31with it.
00:18:35Among the baptism candidates,
00:18:38Morgane, she is 27 years old and is preparing to become
00:18:41an English teacher.
00:18:45I grew up in a city in the 94, in a single-parent
00:18:48family, led by my mother, with an older
00:18:52sister who is disabled so she went to a care home, my mother was
00:18:56a police officer, she came from Madagascar when she was 19, she was
00:19:00Protestant, but we were never really practicing as a
00:19:03family, we didn't go to mass, we didn't go to temple, I didn't understand
00:19:07what it really was when I was a child.
00:19:11Following the death of her mother and then her
00:19:13godfather, Morgane felt the need to go to church and
00:19:17looked up information on the internet.
00:19:21Near her home, she finds Sainte-Anne de la Butte-aux-Cailles where she is
00:19:24welcomed by a priest, but she still
00:19:27hesitates.
00:19:31I have a feeling I can't explain why, it was September 2025,
00:19:34no I have to go back to church, I went there, found Father Henry, I
00:19:38asked him if I could still join the catechumenate, he said no
00:19:42problem and that was the beginning of the adventure
00:19:44so.
00:19:47The catechumenate is the teaching that leads to baptism,
00:19:51it lasts on average 2 years, was much more
00:19:54important, how are the Gospels of the day chosen because it's fixed since
00:19:58it's written in the Bible, how was it chosen? To clarify the
00:20:01question, it's about the choice of liturgical texts that are heard at
00:20:05mass, there are Sunday masses.
00:20:42Today is the return of the new Dr. Love format,
00:20:46is Angela having a meltdown or what? Today, look, I'm in a new little
00:20:50context, a new era, new methods of
00:20:53communication. The Church must now reckon with
00:20:57influencers. Let's start with my podium, for example, the Catholic
00:21:00Church has very little hold over these
00:21:02influencers who will mix beauty
00:21:06tips, Jesus glow, Lenten
00:21:09routines and theological elements. So the very
00:21:13horizontal logic of social networks, from this point of view,
00:21:16weakens the vertical dimension of Catholicism.
00:21:21The most famous is Brother Paul Adrien, over
00:21:2365,000 subscribers, Albertine, check out her Instagram,
00:21:27it's huge, so she's really very lucky. On the women's side, we
00:21:31have Sister Albertine who started on social networks in
00:21:342021 with the support of her community in France.
00:21:38Let us be present at this moment and then pray for the
00:21:41Pope, pray for France,
00:21:43amen. To serve young people, you have to
00:21:47understand their world, what they watch? Hours a
00:21:50day, and so it started like that, making small simple videos, they are really
00:21:54short simple videos to answer pretty basic
00:21:57questions that they asked me, but very quickly the
00:22:01messages multiplied and the requests went further, she says she is not
00:22:05Catholic but she appreciates the content, there is not a week where someone
00:22:08does not share, who opens their heart in a
00:22:12true quest for God. I very regularly give a phone
00:22:16number or a contact for a parish with a proposal
00:22:20that will allow them to go from the virtual to the real, because
00:22:23we are the religion of incarnation, we are a religion that cannot
00:22:26be lived completely behind a
00:22:29screen.
00:22:33It was precisely an influencer who guided Malik to the Church of the
00:22:37Trinity and its priest,
00:22:40an encounter that changed his life and that of his Muslim
00:22:43mother. At the beginning of my catechumenate
00:22:47when, well, the brothers and sisters in the parish... because we are
00:22:50very numerous, asked me "how will it
00:22:54go with your mother, when you tell her", I always answered a bit
00:22:58almost annoyed, a bit off the cuff, "it will go very
00:23:01well", my mother lived all her life
00:23:05in France, she has very good Catholic friends, so
00:23:09I didn't prepare it and then one
00:23:12Sunday, well, I tell her that I'm going to ask for baptism and
00:23:16that, by the way, I have to leave the Sunday lunch.
00:23:20because I have to go to evening mass.
00:23:24And it caused a chill, a
00:23:27very cold atmosphere between us.
00:23:30We hardly spoke for almost a year, but indeed it
00:23:34was not simple,
00:23:36yeah.
00:23:39More and more, it is friends who lead to
00:23:41religion, like Mathieu who followed Joann's entire journey
00:23:45until he became her godfather.
00:23:47Joann,
00:23:49I... baptize you in the name of the Father
00:23:53and of the Son and of the
00:23:55Holy Spirit.
00:23:57Amen.
00:24:00I was proud to be able to support you in this preparation and
00:24:03now that I am your godfather, and that you are
00:24:06baptized, I think you agree that it's also an
00:24:10additional pillar to our relationship. I, that's what I said,
00:24:13it's a bit like a friendship marriage, it's... it's
00:24:16really, well, now we are bound by something that also transcends us, hmm.
00:24:20It's, it's, it's, it's still particular how well
00:24:22also
00:24:25links, that's what many young people seek in
00:24:27the church. At her baptism, Morgane will be
00:24:31supported by her friends from the choir, but also
00:24:34by her elder sister. I grew up feeling
00:24:37different, especially from my sister, going to
00:24:40church allowed me to realize that I had the right to be
00:24:44there unconditionally, that I am, I am
00:24:48part of the world and I have the right.
00:25:00The church compels her to take action and open up to the
00:25:04world.
00:25:13l'Étranger, health insurance and retirement, the CFE, the
00:25:16social security for expatriates.
00:25:53During the negotiations, the Americans said:
00:30:11awaited in Lourdes. He will begin with a prayer in the Grotto
00:30:15of Apparitions. That will be in a few moments, but before that, this
00:30:18afternoon, 700,000 people had gathered in the Place de la Concorde in
00:30:22Paris for a giant mass. Highlights
00:30:26in a moment. End of refusal, Donald Trump
00:30:29rejects Iran's offer to reopen the strait. Moose within
00:30:34this week that Tehran made the proposal, but the
00:30:38American president believes that the Iranian regime is losing
00:30:42the game. We will return to this in this newscast.
00:30:46An expulsion that causes a real uproar in Spain. Hundreds
00:30:49of people are currently demonstrating in Madrid to support Marie
00:30:53Carmen, an 87-year-old woman who had lived in an
00:30:56apartment in the city center for 7 decades.