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00:01:41perhaps. But the thing is,
00:01:48is that young people,
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00:02:11at the same time. The question
00:02:19Welcome to Capital Talk. Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman, Amir of Jamaat-e-Islami,
00:02:23announced on August 7th, i.e., yesterday,
00:02:27that all roads across Pakistan would be closed. What
00:02:30is the reason for this announcement? What are its objectives? Let's talk to him about this. Thank you very much, Hafiz Naeem-ur-Rehman Sahib, would
00:02:34you like to tell us
00:02:38that you have announced that you will close
00:02:41all roads in Pakistan, so
00:02:44is Jamaat-e-Islami capable of closing
00:02:47all roads in Pakistan, and for what reason are you closing
00:02:51the roads?
00:02:53Look, the basic problem at this time is
00:02:57extreme inflation, and a very big reason for that is petroleum
00:03:00products, and there is such a big increase
00:03:04in petroleum products that its effect is being felt on every aspect of life.
00:03:07Just three days ago, there was a report that 27 more items have become expensive
00:03:11due to expensive petrol. Now, these petroleum products, the government says
00:03:15that since there was a war, we increased prices because of the war.
00:03:18Okay, you increased prices because of the war, but what is the relation of this levy
00:03:22to their prices that they are collecting as extortion tax and a place tax from us,
00:03:26and they have collected 1900 billion rupees from
00:03:30students, common people, laborers, farmers whose
00:03:34income is not taxable, they are paying so much money
00:03:37in the name of petrol levy. They also impose it on diesel, which makes public
00:03:41transport and goods transfer difficult. They are not ready to accept
00:03:45it, saying there is pressure from the IMF. Well, the IMF tells you many other things, like to
00:03:49reduce your luxuries and expenses, but you don't do that. A certain lady bought
00:03:52a plane worth 11 billion rupees, and a Chairman Senate bought a car
00:03:56worth 90 million. This is something that the public
00:04:12also support them? Do you have coordination
00:04:30At this time, diesel that is 383 rupees.
00:04:33So tell us, what science is this, that when international market prices have
00:04:36returned to the same level, what are they collecting from us?
00:04:40And it's not just a levy; there are all sorts of taxes included
00:04:43in it. The ex-refinery price is very low,
00:04:47but they impose so much on us, which affects every sector of life.
00:04:51Obviously, we struggled for IPPs, and as a result,
00:04:55electricity prices came down. Jamaat-e-Islami's model is not to
00:04:58burn things, siege, shout, or throw stones.
00:05:01We will come to the streets peacefully. We have designated 510
00:05:04locations across Pakistan, and people in their respective districts have
00:05:08informed about it. Some are highways, some are large roads, and we have nominated
00:05:23those places. You will close roads at 510 locations tomorrow, so
00:05:26please educate people so that they don't come
00:05:30out at that time. At what time will you start closing the roads?
00:05:34And in Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad,
00:05:36Peshawar, Quetta, the big cities
00:05:40of Pakistan, will you tell us which places you will close?
00:05:44Look,
00:05:46we have set the time at 4 PM. We have not called for a strike;
00:05:50the traders themselves say they are ready for a strike. But we have said that
00:05:53if the government doesn't listen, we will call for it later. For now, you
00:05:57should come to the streets. And
00:06:01look, all the cities you mentioned - Islamabad, Lahore, Peshawar, Karachi, Quetta -
00:06:05it will happen everywhere. In Balochistan, we will do it at 18 places,
00:06:08including Quetta, Inshallah. And that will also show
00:06:23that Balochistan is also fully involved. Similarly, in Lahore,
00:06:26at Main Mazang Chowrangi, people will come out from different zones
00:06:29in rallies, young people, and then they will sit at Mazang.
00:06:33Shahrah-e-Faisal in Karachi will also be closed. Similarly, in Islamabad,
00:06:37we have designated the Stop 26. Similarly, Murree Road
00:06:41in Rawalpindi has been designated. In Peshawar, similarly,
00:06:45their main highway will be closed. Similarly, Gujranwala, Main GT
00:06:48Road, they will come to Bhai Pheru in Taahival. Similarly, in South Punjab,
00:06:52they will come to the main roads. In Multan, they will come to Boston Road.
00:06:56Similarly, all the places I remember right now, I am telling you. Our model
00:07:01students, laborers, farmers, common people should come,
00:07:05turn off their motorcycles, and become a part of this protest.
00:07:08And if the government doesn't do anything, then Inshallah,
00:07:12nothing will happen. If an ambulance comes, we will give it way. We will appeal to the public
00:07:16to become a part of our protest. Inshallah, we will be present on the roads,
00:07:19and the whole of Pakistan will be peaceful
00:07:23is, you know that in Islamabad (I am only talking about Islamabad right now),
00:07:27a law was made for protests
00:07:30by this very assembly, and when
00:07:34Section 144 is imposed, which has been in effect since the British
00:07:38era, people get arrested for violating
00:07:42it. So, if young people get arrested,
00:07:45won't that be a violation of the
00:07:49law?
00:07:52Look, the responsibility then falls on the one who is misusing the law, right?
00:07:55Peaceful political protest on the streets, that's
00:07:59our right, right? It's the right of the people.
00:08:03You have blocked the highways of our economy, you have blocked the highways of our lives.
00:08:07If you look at the conditions all around, these people have made life hell
00:08:11in this country. Look, you can't even imagine the condition of a common
00:08:14man. When the electricity bill comes, it drops like a bomb.
00:08:18If a person is paying 125 rupees tax on every liter
00:08:21of petrol, a motorcyclist uses 6 liters of petrol.
00:08:25You tell me, in 6 liters, calculate 125 x 6.
00:08:29This is approximately 7500 rupees in tax being paid daily
00:08:32by someone whose income is not taxable. Oh brother, what is the fault of the student
00:08:36who goes to university? He isn't even earning. So, those who are not
00:08:40earning are paying a levy of 1900 billion rupees.
00:08:43And the feudal lords and big landlords who own hundreds of acres of land, they haven't even collected
00:08:4712 billion rupees in all of Pakistan. This is elite capture,
00:08:50so tell me, if we keep looking at their Section 144,
00:08:54they will continue to indulge in luxuries, they will continue to exploit us,
00:08:58and we will remain spectators and accept their every
00:09:02word. Therefore, it is our right, and this is an illegal and wrong
00:09:05use of Section 144 by the government to do what it wants, and
00:09:09it cannot be accepted. On August
00:09:128th, an organization of transporters,
00:09:15called All Pakistan Goods Transporters Alliance, has also
00:09:19called for a protest on August 8th. So, will you
00:09:25with them, that you are protesting on August 7th and they are protesting on August
00:09:288th?
00:09:31Look, they also have the right to protest; they are also troubled because, obviously, prices
00:09:34of everything increase, right? So, they are also troubled. We
00:09:38have constant contact with them. This announcement is mainly from their
00:09:41organizations in Karachi, and people from Punjab and other parts
00:09:45of the country are also joining them. And it is their
00:09:49right to raise their voice. But we announced
00:09:52this protest a week and a half ago. And right now, rallies are happening all over Pakistan. Young people
00:09:56have come out and are contacting people. Look, I want to tell
00:10:00you again that we want to remain peaceful; we want to protest peacefully.
00:10:04It is the government's job not to let this peaceful
00:10:08protest fall victim to any kind of adventure. Jamaat-e-Islami is an organization
00:10:11throughout Pakistan. We have organized people everywhere, Alhamdullilah, we have
00:10:15support, and especially since this is a public issue, we are not raising
00:10:18our voice for our party or our leader, this protest is not for Naeem-ur-Rehman,
00:10:22it is for the 250 million people
00:10:25of Pakistan, it is for the millions of young people of Pakistan. That's why I
00:10:28want to warn the government that if it tries to do any adventure,
00:10:32then Jamaat-e-Islami also knows other ways which we don't
00:10:36want to use. We know how to spread this protest, Alhamdullilah,
00:10:40and we know how things are spread like this.
00:10:44Lest this movement to reduce petrol prices turns into a movement to
00:10:47overthrow the government. So, Shahbaz Sharif Sahib should avoid this and
00:10:51should give us the right to peaceful protest. Okay, Hafiz Sahib.
00:10:55You are talking about the government, so yesterday in our program,
00:10:59the Prime Minister's advisor, Rana Sanaullah Sahib,
00:11:02was present. I asked him that Jamaat-e-Islami is closing roads
00:11:06on August 7th, so what is your opinion on that? So, he
00:11:10replied, please listen to it if you don't mind, and then if you deem
00:11:13it appropriate, give a reply. Sir, Jamaat-e-Islami
00:11:17does not generally make such announcements, but now they are saying
00:11:21that on August 7th, we will close all highways in Pakistan.
00:11:25So, this announcement,
00:11:28no, Jamaat-e-Islami sometimes
00:11:32makes such announcements, but they don't
00:11:36act upon them. So, they have made
00:11:39this announcement with you, but on August 7th, they will not act upon
00:11:42it. So, Hafiz Sahib, he said that you have announced
00:11:46to close the roads on August 7th, but he thinks that you will
00:11:50not act upon it.
00:11:53Well, August 7th will come.
00:11:55Then, Inshallah, your program will also happen. Then invite Rana Sanaullah Sahib and ask
00:11:59him. Look, obviously, he is in the government, and he
00:12:03might have to talk like that,
00:12:06what is the issue? The issue is the public,
00:12:10the people who are dying daily. Address that.
00:12:13They started talks with IPPs; they talked to 17-18 IPPs,
00:12:17and that helped. As a result, electricity bills came down.
00:12:21Earlier, they used to say, when we started the sit-in, you must remember, you also did a program,
00:12:25they used to say it's out of the question to talk to any IPP. But on the
00:12:29fourteenth day of the sit-in, they also made an agreement with us, and we also pursued it, and later it was also verbal.
00:12:33Anyway, they talked to 18-19, then it became a mess.
00:12:36So why is there a need for sit-ins? Why is there a need to close roads?
00:12:40Don't you know what is better? More than 8
00:12:44thousand billion rupees in levy has been collected from the people
00:12:48of Pakistan as petroleum development levy only, Hamid Mir Sahib. This meant
00:12:52that they would increase the refinery capacity, and they would increase
00:12:55it. If they had invested 2,000 billion rupees in this capacity,
00:12:59our import bill would have decreased by five to six billion dollars.
00:13:02But in this period, no one did anything. They didn't do it
00:13:06in four years, the one before them didn't. The five years before that didn't.
00:13:10The five to ten years before that didn't. They have been collecting this levy for almost 20
00:13:13years. So tell me, you are collecting money from the nation
00:13:17for a specific purpose, but you are
00:13:21not using it. Okay. Okay, you gave us the figures
00:13:26that in February, meaning February 2026,
00:13:29the price of petrol in the international market
00:13:33was 72 dollars per barrel,
00:13:36and at that time, the price of petrol was
00:13:39258 rupees per liter. Is that what you said,
00:13:41right? And exactly. And now you are saying
00:13:45that the price of petrol in the international market is 74 dollars per barrel,
00:13:49and in Pakistan, the price of oil is 333 rupees
00:13:52per liter. What
00:14:00do you want the government to do in terms of reducing
00:14:04petrol and diesel prices in your protest
00:14:07tomorrow? How much of a reduction
00:14:10would make you happy and
00:14:13satisfied? Look, our demand right now is that the figure
00:14:17of 225 rupees is achievable. This is not something
00:14:21impossible. They are getting it at 209 rupees or approximately 213 rupees ex-refinery. And based on that,
00:14:29they can provide petrol at 225 rupees, and diesel at almost the same price.
00:14:33This levy, I don't understand, the petroleum
00:14:37levy has no connection with the tax on petrol nor with the import-export
00:14:41of petrol. They have imposed this levy just to hide their incompetence.
00:14:44FBR staff do not meet their targets. They have 25,000 staff members
00:14:48and they use cars worth millions of rupees. Your demand is
00:14:53the price be reduced from 333 rupees per liter
00:14:57to 225 rupees per liter. And
00:15:01my demand, Hamid Mir Sahib, is absolutely logical
00:15:05because they are collecting almost 80 rupees as levy, and it has
00:15:08no connection with the price. So, they should fix their FBR and
00:15:12reduce their expenses. They should reduce their cars to 1300 CC.
00:15:16They should reduce their luxuries. They should use their planes less.
00:15:19They shouldn't buy new cars, then this thing will automatically
00:15:23improve, and as soon as the petrol price decreases. Okay, sir. Now, please tell us how long
00:15:27you will sit on the road after starting the protest at 4 PM
00:15:30tomorrow?
00:15:33Well, we will start now and then we will look at the situation and
00:15:36it is possible that we will
00:16:07assess the situation at that time. It is also possible that we ask
00:16:11people to prolong it, and it is also possible that we start sit-ins at a few
00:16:14other specific locations and call it off elsewhere.
00:16:18But we will consult at that time. It also depends on the government. If
00:16:21the government creates trouble, these 510 locations can become 1500.
00:16:25That's a straight talk. So, they should
00:16:29understand the mood of our protest. This is not what Sanaullah
00:16:32Rana Sahib is saying, that they will announce and not do it. They will know tomorrow,
00:16:36Inshallah. Okay, thank you very much. Hafiz
00:16:42Naeem-ur-Rehman Sahib said that on August 7th, why are they protesting? The matter is such that it is also necessary for the government to give its stance on it. In the past, we have many times taken the stance
00:16:46of Petroleum Minister Ali Pervez Malik Sahib on this matter.
00:16:49Today also, we tried to get his stance,
00:16:53but today he is not available. Whenever he is available, our
00:16:56forum is ready. He can give his point of view
00:17:00here. Here, we take a break. We will meet again after the break.
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00:22:03Welcome back to Capital Talk. And finally, we will talk about
00:22:07a story published in the British newspaper The Guardian.
00:22:11And the story is about Mr. Akhtar
00:22:15Ahmad, a newly elected member of the Azad Kashmir
00:22:18Assembly. Former.
00:22:43So we have contacted our special correspondent in London, Murtaza Shah Sahib. Let's ask Murtaza Shah Sahib what the details are, whether he talked to Mr. Rukhsar, and
00:22:46whether he talked to the concerned
00:22:50police. Yes, Murtaza Shah Sahib, what information do you
00:22:53have? Rukhsar Ahmad
00:22:57has to appear before the Manchester Police in the next month
00:23:00and a half. His bail is currently on police bail,
00:23:04and he will have to appear before the police to extend his bail or to get updates
00:23:08on his case. I contacted Rukhsar
00:23:11Ahmad, Chaudhry Rukhsar. He said that he would not talk
00:23:15about this case at all. He refused to talk
00:23:19about it, but I spoke to his legal team
00:23:22here, his solicitor, and he said that
00:23:26all these allegations are false. He also said that the
00:23:29newspaper not only printed false allegations, but he also
00:23:33said that the restaurant they claim belongs to his family is
00:23:37also false. He also said that regarding the police bail
00:23:40claim, he said that Rukhsar
00:23:44Ahmad cannot go to the police station by force. He said that
00:23:48the police have not yet given him any
00:23:51indication that he has to appear before the police.
00:23:55He did confirm that he was arrested,
00:23:58but he says that he is innocent at this stage. He has not
00:24:02been charged, his trial has not taken place, and
00:24:06that no allegation has been proven yet because the trial has not taken place.
00:24:10But he said that his client, Rukhsar Ahmad,
00:24:14has rejected all the allegations in the police interview,
00:24:17and he believes that all these allegations are
00:24:21false. Chaudhry Rukhsar won the elections in Azad Kashmir
00:24:25by a lead of approximately seven to eight thousand votes.
00:24:29When we contacted the Greater Manchester Police for this program
00:24:32to get their version, the police said in this regard that they
00:24:36would not give any statement, and the police said
00:24:39that they would not comment on the questions
00:24:43being asked to them. Okay, thank you very much,
00:24:46sir. We also contacted Rukhsar Sahib, but he
00:24:50did not give any reply about this. Anyway, there are many
00:24:54allegations and many questions, and according
00:24:57to our information, some other British newspapers are also following this
00:25:01case. Anyway, the elections of the Azad Kashmir
00:25:05Assembly, their third phase is still
00:25:08pending, and when the third phase is completed, then we will talk
00:25:12about it in more detail. Until then, please excuse us. Allah
00:25:14Hafiz.
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00:30:19Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Turkey Summit today. According to media reports,
00:30:22a joint defense agreement will be signed between the three countries.
00:30:26On the invitation of the Saudi Crown Prince, Prime Minister Shahbaz
00:30:30Sharif and Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir arrived in Jeddah. They were
00:30:33received by Prince Saud bin Mishaal bin Abdulaziz, the Deputy Governor
00:30:37of Makkah, and the Saudi Minister of Agriculture. Turkish President
00:30:41Recep Tayyip Erdogan will arrive in Saudi Arabia today. Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif
00:30:44will meet with the Saudi Crown Prince. The regional situation
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