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00:00:00It is the responsibility of the government. Undoubtedly, the Prime Minister
00:00:03has made many offers. But it's not just about making offers.
00:00:07For that, a lot of effort has to be made, a lot of struggle has to be made.
00:00:10A lot of effort has to be made. Secondly, you
00:00:14see that you are saying that we are giving relief to the people.
00:00:17Viewers, with this hope And why isn't there an impact on the people?
00:00:20Firstly, as I said, when government
00:00:23departments, whether federal or provincial,
00:00:27are corrupt, and the way they harass
00:00:31traders, industrialists,
00:00:35and the entire business circle, the hatred against the government
00:00:38increases. Similarly, you have a
00:00:42crisis. In this crisis,
00:00:46you are present in the form of a government.
00:00:49You buy a plane that has created a whole controversy for you.
00:00:53The provincial government has bought it, and more money has gone to
00:00:57the provinces. The province and Islamabad are one
00:01:11you protect the diplomatic area,
00:01:25Sahib said that there is no magic wand
00:01:39and the same today. Similarly, you see that when
00:01:42a common man sees that there are chief ministers,
00:01:45governors, ministers, senior
00:01:49ministers, Dr. Sahib, they are like us, aren't they?
00:01:52When large convoys of protocol pass by,
00:01:55and they blow smoke in people's faces,
00:01:58okay? They are in large, safe,
00:02:03But when rulers, with their actions, bulletproof cars, but the hatred of the people
00:02:05an advantage in the fight increases, and the intensity of emotions
00:02:09arises in people that what is the country,
00:02:12what is the economy, where are we sinking,
00:02:16but their protocols do not stop. So I think that overall,
00:02:21I have also said this in your program that becomes a separate topic, there is a long discussion on it.
00:02:24On
00:02:27a letter, we are saying relief that you have
00:02:31one rupee, 1006
00:02:33rupees relief. In that too, you see where
00:02:36else you can make cuts for it.
00:02:39In the political arena, So you should give the economy such a message
00:02:43that the whole circle runs. Now people
00:02:46produce products, give them to the market,
00:02:50and don't get their money back. Businesses are collapsing.
00:02:54Social problems are increasing with great
00:02:57intensity. So this is a very
00:03:00serious matter, and Jamaat-e-Islami
00:03:04has not taken a single step forward
00:03:08in this political turmoil. We are drawing the government's attention
00:03:11to public issues with full reasoning,
00:03:14full seriousness, and civility.
00:03:18But when butter doesn't come out with straight fingers, then
00:03:22people vomit themselves. How will Dr.
00:03:25Sahib deal with their protest?
00:03:30Because on one hand, you people say that they are noble people,
00:03:34disciplined people. They will
00:03:37not hold any event. So will
00:03:40their march be allowed or
00:03:43will you stop it? I will just make
00:03:47two points and then come directly to your
00:03:49then what will happen? question. The request is that as
00:03:54decision clearly Mr. Baloch said, he thanked us for the negotiations that took place with us,
00:03:57and he declared them serious and meaningful.
00:04:02And he said that the government carried them out with great care and attention.
00:04:05As far as the matter of public is concerned,
00:04:08look, I have a bit of a
00:04:12concern that in Jamaat-e-Islami's sit-ins, public participation
00:04:15and mobilization is low. Their own workers
00:04:19are certainly present there. As for the
00:04:23ongoing negotiations, as you asked,
00:04:26sir, if they reach a logical conclusion,
00:04:30then I think they should be allowed to reach it. When
00:04:34and behind it, you bring a sit-in and a movement
00:04:37and block the street, then the element of civility
00:04:41ends. Then it's a power struggle,
00:04:44and I am always against power struggles in politics.
00:04:47needs. Now you said how will they deal with it in Islamabad, the three dates coming up,
00:04:51for the system, the doors of the Prime Minister that is, 23rd, 25th and
00:04:55the Turkish Foreign Minister said 27th. Look, we have
00:04:58two options. One option is that we leave Islamabad open,
00:05:02whoever comes here, brings their march,
00:05:05and sits wherever they want. After that, that march, many times in the past,
00:05:09you have seen that they become uncontrolled mobs.
00:05:13Then those groups also commit violence here, and after that,
00:05:17public or private property is also damaged. Your studio here
00:05:20has also been attacked, you know, glass was broken,
00:05:24and all during these marches that political parties have done in the past, and especially PTI, there is no harm in taking names.
00:05:27Then after that, the leaders disassociate themselves from those workers
00:05:31who participate in such activities when their pictures and videos
00:05:35are shown that we have no connection with them. So option number one
00:05:39is whether Islamabad can be left open.
00:05:43Islamabad cannot be handed over to any mob.
00:05:46Firstly, there is a civilian population of seven to eight lakhs here.
00:05:50Overall, there are 25 to 30 lakhs in Islamabad. Then the biggest thing is that
00:05:53your embassies are here. All your diplomatic corps
00:05:56are sitting here. The whole world is watching
00:05:59what is happening in Islamabad. Sadi Sahib, I will tell you an administrative
00:06:02thing. That when
00:06:05you have to stop a mob, you cannot stop them at the gate of the diplomatic area.
00:06:09If they are coming from KPK, you have to stop them at Attock.
00:06:13If they are coming from Punjab, you have to stop them at Rawat.
00:06:17If they are coming from Murree side, you have to stop them at Bara Chhattar.
00:06:20Only then, thinned out,
00:06:24the red zone. So this is the second
00:06:28option, and of course, we will go with this option, and at this time,
00:06:31the clear directions in the High Court's decision
00:06:35to the administration of Islamabad are that the freedom of movement of the citizens
00:06:39of Islamabad in their public places,
00:06:43protect them, protect their rights, and no one is allowed
00:06:46to disturb the peace and order situation of Islamabad and the citizens here.
00:06:50Look, what the High Court has said is about the constitutional
00:06:53rights of the citizens of Islamabad. You have constitutional rights,
00:06:57I have constitutional rights, sir has constitutional rights.
00:07:01Can I, by raising the slogan of my constitutional rights, infringe on your constitutional rights?
00:07:04None of us three can. My constitutional rights extend
00:07:08to not infringing on your constitutional rights. One umbrella
00:12:00once again to the Jirga. Mallow
00:12:04Sahib, the High Court's decision
00:12:07stated that no one has the right
00:12:11to block the roads of Islamabad. So how will
00:12:15you people ensure that no road in Islamabad is blocked?
00:12:18The problem is that the High Court's decisions are,
00:12:22of course, court decisions. We respect them very much.
00:12:28stop people's livelihoods,
00:12:31shut down people's stoves,
00:12:33stop people's entire movement,
00:12:37and create the worst problems
00:12:41for people, then I think that
00:12:44there is a bigger decision than the High Court's decision,
00:12:48which is the Constitution of Pakistan. And the Constitution of Pakistan
00:12:52says that people's food security should be ensured.
00:12:55There should be safety for people. There should be employment for people.
00:12:59There should be fair distribution of resources for people.
00:13:02This elite will get all these things from a march.
00:13:06Obviously, if a targeted
00:13:10subsidy, as they are saying, we
00:13:13targeted solutions that are in the interest
00:13:16of the country, in the interest of the people,
00:13:20for the relief of the people, then it has its effect.
00:13:23Even then, the rulers of IPPs were not listening. Dr.
00:13:27Sahib is present. In the first two
00:13:31rounds, we spent our time on saying, "No, just talk."
00:13:34But when the talks started,
00:13:37today there is a relief of
00:13:414300 billion rupees. And there will be more relief
00:13:44as we move forward. This is for the benefit of the country.
00:13:48Meaning, in the past too, these wrong decisions were made.
00:13:51And all the IPP projects were set up at a higher
00:13:55rate, wrongly set up. They were not according to capacity,
00:13:58and they are useless. But you don't do that work,
00:14:01you don't take electricity, you are making payments to them.
00:14:05But when, in view of the reasons you have stated, you will not implement
00:14:09the High Court's order, if the road is blocked,
00:14:14I think we will neither block the road nor trouble the people.
00:14:18We will provide relief to the people, God willing.
00:14:20How far will your march come? Will it come to Islamabad?
00:14:24No, Islamabad is a big Islamabad, isn't it? Will it come to D-Chowk?
00:14:26Or will it come to China Chowk?
00:14:30Or will it come to F9 Park? Everyone wants it to come
00:14:34to D-Chowk. Okay, at D-Chowk,
00:14:37people's problem is that Islamabad
00:14:41belongs to everyone. Now, if people
00:14:45don't get relief from Islamabad, if Islamabad's
00:14:47wrong policies make people's lives difficult,
00:14:50and people are committing suicide,
00:14:53a great social disaster is unfolding,
00:14:59where the political crisis has its own effect, the effect of stealing the electoral
00:15:03mandate in democracy, but along with that,
00:15:06a major economic impact is creating
00:15:10great unrest among the people. At this time, our
00:15:14issue is to create ease for the people.
00:15:18Let's sit tonight, let's solve this problem today,
00:15:21let's give relief to the people. We will reconsider
00:15:25our protest. Okay, Dr.
00:15:28Sahib, Jamaat-e-Islami wants to come to D-Chowk.
00:15:31So will you allow them to come to D-Chowk?
00:15:34Yes, on one hand, Jamaat-e-Islami wants to come to D-Chowk and sit there,
00:15:38and on the other hand, they are also saying that we will not block
00:15:41any road in Islamabad. So these are two contradictory statements.
00:15:45Sitting at D-Chowk, even if there is a crowd of a few hundred people here,
00:15:49Islamabad is a square,
00:15:52D-Chowk is the main traffic artery of Islamabad. And with people's presence here,
00:15:56Islamabad is divided into two parts. Those who know Islamabad
00:15:59know that it creates such a huge inconvenience for people
00:16:03that at least no government allows it.
00:16:07Secondly, even if your marches
00:16:11have been peaceful, still, no risk can be taken
00:16:13for the safety of the families, houses, and population
00:16:17in Islamabad that you allow any mob to
00:16:21enter the streets of Islamabad city. One
00:16:25question of mine, which you have more or less already asked Mr. Baloch,
00:16:28is whether choking Islamabad, I will put it in simpler words,
00:16:32will choking Islamabad solve all these problems?
00:16:35If you choke Islamabad,
00:16:37will new resources emerge after that?
00:16:41Will we get a magic wand? Look, these
00:16:45problems need resources to be solved.
00:16:49And to bring resources, I said earlier that no individual
00:16:52is in that position at this time because
00:16:56they say that earlier, under such pressure, you people solved the IPP problem.
00:17:00No, it could
00:17:03be Jamaat-e-Islami's flattery that it was done under pressure.
00:17:06The opportunity for that arose because proper dialogues
00:17:10and negotiations were held with them, and the agreements
00:17:13they had were renegotiated, and
00:17:16Mr. Low Sahib rightly said that Pakistan got a relief of
00:17:20more than three thousand rupees in this, or in the coming
00:17:23years, they will benefit from it. So what I am saying
00:17:27is that there is a need to pay attention to the shortage of resources.
00:17:31This problem will not be solved by sticks,
00:17:34nor by showing each other
00:17:37who will dominate which city, and who will gain
00:17:42or power struggle with the federal government.
00:17:45These problems will not be solved by this, but will increase.
00:17:49So, regarding national harmony, you also said that it is the responsibility of politicians.
00:17:53I fully support this statement of yours.
00:17:58that it is the responsibility of politicians that we handle all these
00:18:02situations. Tell me which party,
00:18:06leaving Jamaat-e-Islami aside, which other party
00:18:10is not in the government in different provinces and the federation of Pakistan?
00:18:13So realize this responsibility.
00:18:17oppose each other politically,
00:18:19but
00:18:22a family, Sahib, whose monthly
00:18:26income is low,
00:18:30and whose expenses are much higher than that,
00:18:33will always be in a state of distress. They will manage from here,
00:18:37from there, and this is the condition of Pakistan, our home.
00:18:40No, it is our home, but Liaquat Baloch Sahib
00:18:44says that its constitution allows them
00:18:47to. So they want to come to D-Chowk.
00:18:51So will your government and peacefully, but
00:18:55they want to come to D-Chowk peacefully, so
00:18:58will you use force to stop them?
00:19:02See, they can also be stopped without using force. We have absolutely no
00:19:05intention of using force
00:19:07or creating a confrontational situation. We would be the last people
00:19:11to even think of any kind of fighting or any kind
00:19:15of tension on the streets. But if the Constitution
00:19:19allows protest,
00:19:22then the Constitution also places a responsibility
00:19:25on us to maintain the law and order situation here.
00:19:28The High Court's
00:19:31gives directions to the Islamabad administration
00:19:35that you cannot leave Islamabad open. Whoever comes here,
00:19:39occupies any place they want, sits wherever they want,
00:19:43and after that, it is not so easy to restore
00:19:46the normal life here. Why did Rana Sanaullah Sahib say
00:19:50that we will treat them like terrorists? Look, in Islamabad,
00:19:53I have said, Safi Sahib, that the history of peaceful marches,
00:19:57especially of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, shows that their marches
00:20:01are violent, there is violence in them.
00:20:05In fact, there are some such footages and intelligence information
00:20:09that we had before, and even now, the information is not very good.
00:20:13Many people have been involved in it, stick-wielding people have also been involved in it.
00:20:17They are carrying sticks and committing violence here.
00:20:20If this is not
00:20:23terrorism, then what is it? Terrorism is what someone who is carrying out
00:20:26suicide bombings or detonating bombs is doing.
00:20:30Whoever takes the law into their own hands, based on their power,
00:20:34whether it's a stick, or any weapon in their hand,
00:20:38denying the rights of another citizen is terrorism.
00:20:41If your media goes out of its bounds,
00:20:45it is media terrorism. So Rana Sahib's
00:20:49statement does not mean that they are terrorists,
00:20:52but that they are outright terrorists. Do not infringe on the rights of others.
00:20:56Okay, Baloch Sahib, have you people applied
00:20:59to the Islamabad administration for permission?
00:21:02Yes, we have submitted the application. There has
00:21:06been a telephonic conference
00:21:10with them. There were some engagements.
00:21:14Later, they said that we have a meeting of the whole country tonight.
00:21:17So maybe a meeting will take place tonight or tomorrow at some time.
00:21:21Look, Safi Sahib, Dr.
00:21:24Sahib, as a political worker myself, I believe
00:21:27that peaceful political, constitutional, democratic
00:21:31struggle is the beauty of both democracy
00:21:35and politics, and it becomes the strength of
00:21:38politics and democracy. If any party resorts to violence,
00:21:42it creates harm for itself and for the country.
00:21:46The biggest casualty is democracy and
00:21:48a political process. Therefore, political
00:21:51parties also have their own responsibility
00:21:55to keep things peaceful. It is a misfortune that when political
00:21:59parties themselves do not organize themselves,
00:22:02when they do not strengthen a democratic
00:22:06process within themselves, then things slip out of their own
00:22:09hands. Secondly, Dr.
00:22:15to solve these problems. The problem is that a magic wand is not needed.
00:22:18What is needed is vision, targets,
00:22:22and their execution. And as I said, we have
00:22:26identified what possibilities are available
00:22:30in all the budget documents. And no one has rejected it.
00:22:34That's why I think that for this, there is no magic wand,
00:22:38but a vision and actions and
00:22:41decisions. And
00:22:44if the government wants to give relief to the people,
00:22:48then this protest becomes a great strength for them.
00:22:50Okay, I wanted to know if you people
00:22:53will protest for one day or
00:22:57if you will come and sit at D-Chowk and hold a sit-in.
00:23:00We will come.
00:23:03If they give relief to the people at that time, we will salute
00:23:06them and go back. If they don't give it,
00:23:10then they will also be accountable, won't they?
00:23:13Then you will keep sitting. We will try.
00:23:17Okay, after that, Dr.
00:23:21Sahib, they are not just protesting at D-Chowk, but they are holding a sit-in here.
00:23:25Here. Please,
00:23:28please. The problem is that D-Chowk is a
00:23:31symbol. If a place is decided
00:23:35for a peaceful protest anywhere in Islamabad,
00:23:39Rana Sanaullah Sahib repeatedly said,
00:23:42"Just come to the park, come and sit there."
00:23:46The offer was from them too.
00:23:50So I think it is possible that a place
00:23:54will be agreed upon by the government and you people. An Islamic meeting will be held,
00:23:57and if anything is agreed upon with them in the meeting,
00:24:00and if our team here fundamentally
00:24:04makes a decision with them, we will abide by that decision.
00:24:07Dr. Sahib,
00:24:10the request is that we have never claimed,
00:24:14I am talking about the government, that we are omniscient.
00:24:17And
00:24:19the governance that exists at this time cannot be improved.
00:24:23Both things can happen. Governance can be improved,
00:24:26the flaws in the system can be removed.
00:24:30Honorable Baloch Sahib just mentioned
00:24:34many flaws in the system, apart from the petroleum issue.
00:24:38Obviously, the debate has spread to various
00:24:41topics. Multiple leakages and all have
00:24:45been discussed, and reforms have been discussed, how can they be done in the system?
00:24:48So I would say that
00:24:51in one sitting or one or two
00:24:55negotiations, neither all these reforms can be done,
00:24:58nor all these issues of governance,
00:25:01leakages in the system, and everywhere, as I said before,
00:25:04and it's on record, if you look at all these things that happened today,
00:25:08then the issues of the federal government in it
00:25:12will appear less to you, and the matters related
00:25:15to the provinces will show more issues and problems.
00:25:19The provinces are ours too, the federation is everyone's.
00:25:23So in one sit-in or one long march, you want to fix
00:25:26all these things, from petroleum to taxation and corruption,
00:25:30all the things that have been discussed, I will not repeat them again.
00:25:34So this is not possible in this way.
00:25:37If you want to give your positive input
00:25:41are always open. The ministers are sitting with you,
00:25:45you yourself admitted it with great sincerity. So take these things in that direction.
00:25:49And if there is a sit-in here or if Islamabad is choked,
00:25:52I have already discussed this in detail. Our senior
00:25:55leadership, meaning senior ministers, are sitting
00:25:59together, and if there is a place
00:26:03where the movement of people and daily life is not disrupted,
00:26:06then they should sit there. Okay, our prayer is that you can satisfy
00:26:10them, and neither these people should be tested,
00:26:14nor the citizens of Islamabad, nor their workers.
00:26:19that you will keep informing us about your feedback regarding the program,
00:26:23I seek permission with thanks to Dr. Tariq Fazli Sahib
00:26:26and Mr. Liaquat Baloch Sahib from today's Jirga. God bless you.
00:26:30God bless you.
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00:30:20The Saudi military alliance has said that on Saturday, the ballistic missile fired by the Houthis of Yemen
00:30:24towards Riyadh was destroyed in the air.
00:30:27Bash, Thai, French attacks
00:30:31were foiled. They had tried to target civilian areas.
00:30:34Turkish Foreign Minister
00:30:42Hakan Fidan said that due to the ongoing attacks by the Houthis of Yemen,
00:30:46Saudi Arabia may have some military
00:30:50We will review this matter under the bilateral defense agreement with Pakistan.
00:30:54Regarding the Houthi attacks,
00:30:57that to end the war,