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00:00:24then it also gives a kind
00:00:30The country will face a loss of 120 billion rupees due to business closures.
00:00:33PTI founder Imran Khan's sister
00:00:42Alia Khan was taken into custody in Lahore under the MPO. The Deputy Commissioner of Lahore
00:00:45ordered Alia Khan to be kept in jail for 30 days. In the police report, Alia was declared harmful
00:00:49to public safety and order. PTI Chairman Barrister Gohar demanded
00:00:53the immediate release of Alia Khan.
00:00:56I can't believe it's just
00:01:15also uses this three MPO.
00:01:29this three MPO was also used.
00:01:49ہاں سیاسی پہلو یہ ہے
00:01:54to pick them up, to shoot them,
00:07:12she was abducted, this is nothing but the worst political revenge.
00:07:16Geo News correspondent Haider Shirazi spoke to Noreen Niazi, sister of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf founder Imran Khan,
00:07:19who said that Halima Khan's arrest can be understood as the fear of the rulers,
00:07:23but we are not afraid of such actions,
00:07:26we will always strive for our brother. In addition, party
00:07:30chairman Barrister Gohar, in a conversation with Geo News today, once again admitted to having a conversation with Mohsin
00:07:33Naqvi and said that I do not deny meeting with Mohsin Naqvi.
00:07:37Negotiations should happen, but then it's cold, nothing could be worked out.
00:07:41On Barrister Gohar's statement, we contacted an important minister of the government
00:07:44and asked why the government and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf could not reach an agreement, to which the important
00:07:48federal minister said that the government was ready for what Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf was demanding,
00:07:52but I don't know what their internal differences are.
00:07:56This long march was not announced by Imran Khan, he announced it himself,
00:08:00so he himself
00:08:03अंदरनी क्या اختلافات ہیں. इस लांग मार्च का ऐलान इमरान खान ने
00:08:07नहीं किया था, यह ऐलान उन्होंने खुद किया, इसलिए इस ऐलान
00:08:10Thank you.
00:09:43Look, in every civilized society
00:09:46in the world, raising a voice for one's rights,
00:09:49raising a voice for one's rights, raising a voice for one's
00:09:53fundamental rights, this is considered a civilized method.
00:09:57The constitution and law also allow this.
00:10:00So, just as you
00:10:04allow Jamaat-e-Islami to hold marches and rallies
00:10:07across Pakistan, just as
00:10:11you allow Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman Sahib
00:10:14to hold rallies and gatherings wherever he wants in Pakistan,
00:10:18similarly, we are also Pakistanis, the people of PTA
00:10:21are also Pakistanis. It is the fundamental right of all of us to protest,
00:10:25to hold peaceful rallies.
00:10:28We are talking about peace. So why are they afraid
00:10:31of these peaceful rallies? Always, look, peaceful rallies yield
00:10:35results. Violent actions
00:10:39are not correct. And when any party
00:10:42shows its supporters
00:10:46they protest,
00:10:49of satisfaction that we have raised our voice for our rights. You don't listen to the Supreme Court,
00:10:53you don't listen to the judiciary, you paralyze the judiciary,
00:10:56you close all legal paths for us,
00:11:00you close them for the opponent, then you tell them
00:11:03that your voice should not be heard, you should not speak.
00:11:07and for everyone else,
00:11:11there is one kind of law, and for you, there is another law. This is Pakistan.
00:11:14Is this for the people of Pakistan or is it Pakistan according to their will,
00:11:17where they want it to go according to their will? You will predict
00:11:21beforehand that we will shoot.
00:11:25We will do this, we will do that, we have ordered to shoot.
00:11:29Then you pick up their sisters.
00:11:32Pick up Imran Khan Sahib's sister. And under
00:11:35three MPOs, that there is a threat to public order from them,
00:11:39you imprison them in jail. Brother, where did this
00:11:43fascism come from? You declared
00:11:47women, you declared Yasmin Rashid a terrorist.
00:11:49ہے؟ اپ عورتوں کو اپ نے
00:11:53Where is this justice, man? Then
00:12:29if someone picks up a stone
00:12:33from ahead, you say they are violent. I don't think
00:12:36that's the case. We will come peacefully, whoever
00:12:40protests, they will be peaceful. So you are already predicting, sir,
00:12:43that if you come, this will happen. You see, my brother,
00:12:47it is the right of the citizens of Pakistan to protest peacefully.
00:12:50It is our right, it is everyone's right.
00:12:54But the order that Islam has given is precisely because of these past
00:12:57protests. Whether they say
00:13:00that in 2022 trees were burnt, on May 9, 2023,
00:13:03there was violence again in 2024, and this is absolutely correct that 14
00:13:07of our people are still there, but the government says that other people also brought weapons. You must have heard
00:13:11the government still saying that they are preparing to bring weapons.
00:13:15You must have heard the government's statement. This is
00:13:19not true, brother, these are false narratives, there is no
00:13:21such thing. There will be a peaceful protest. Even before, when Imran
00:13:25Khan Sahib was coming to Islamabad, you shot at them.
00:13:28Was anyone set on fire there? Imran Khan Sahib himself came
00:13:31to Islamabad Rawalpindi. You predict first,
00:13:34then you impose restrictions on the other person, you create thousands of obstacles
00:13:38so that no one can move forward. Then after that,
00:13:43you do, you shell, let us protest peacefully. We are responsible.
00:13:46No one will shoot anyone,
00:13:50human life is very precious. If someone, I, Raja
00:13:53Nasir, bring people so that we will kill and be killed,
00:13:57they will be killed. These are people's children,
00:14:01our children. Why should we incite anyone? Why should we kill anyone? This is
00:14:04a very important point. Ultimately, we know that
00:14:08peaceful protest yields results.
00:14:11When someone becomes violent, then other things happen. This is
00:14:15absolutely true. We, as
00:14:18What sane person
00:14:22would get their children killed? This is correct. Those who are in front of us
00:14:55are also our brothers, right? We will bring flowers for them, we will put flowers
00:14:58around their necks. We will bring garlands of flowers and put them around their necks.
00:15:02But we never want to adopt a path in which,
00:15:06God forbid, Pakistanis from both sides die.
00:15:10Why should they die? Pakistan.
00:15:13The kind of statements coming from both sides of Pakistan, it seems that the matter will lead
00:15:16to confrontation. Junaid.
00:15:20They will remove these and new people will come. I make you a witness that we will make
00:15:24Islamabad Somnath.
00:16:07Yes, Allama Sahib, on one hand, they are saying that we know
00:16:11the government will shoot, we will pick up bodies, more people will come, and we will make
00:16:14Islam Somnath. Now, these are statements of confrontation, right? That if
00:16:17a bullet is fired from there, we will also make Islam Somnath.
00:16:21You see, I am saying again
00:16:25and again that what should the government do here? They should talk,
00:16:28negotiate. They should give ways for protest,
00:16:31not that they immediately arrest Imran Khan Sahib's sister, Halima Khan,
00:16:35under three MPOs, saying they are afraid of her
00:16:37and put her in jail. Similarly, talk about others.
00:16:41The government facilitates, doesn't it? The government is like a mother.
00:16:44Come, let's talk. Why does a protester want to be talked to, and their words heard,
00:16:48and their demands met? What they demand should be fulfilled.
00:16:52Why are you treating this as enmity? Are Indian forces coming?
00:16:55Are Indian soldiers coming?
00:16:59دیے جائے جو ہماری ڈیمانڈ ہے وہ پوری کی جائے یہ اپ اس کو کیوں
00:17:02دشمنی سمجھ رہے ہیں کوئی انڈیا کی فورسز ا رہی ہیں کوئی انڈیا سے
00:17:06along with Gohar Sahib, and
00:18:08Mohsin Sahib met the Interior Minister, so what was discussed?
00:18:11What were your demands for ending the protest, and is the government
00:18:15ready to give anything or not? Because you said yesterday that Imran Khan's health
00:18:19and the political situation were discussed, so what is the position?
00:18:23Nothing was finalized. Even today, Gohar Sahib said that the matter has cooled down.
00:18:26Negotiations.
00:18:28Look, the thing is,
00:18:31when you announce a protest, the government comes and negotiates
00:18:34with you. Only Imran Khan can end
00:18:46it. Let us meet Imran Khan. We will meet Imran Khan Sahib,
00:18:50we will tell him what you are saying, and we are political people,
00:18:54God willing, we will find a solution. The job of politicians
00:18:57is to find middle ground, find solutions, and move forward.
00:19:01Politicians are not like iron that they have
00:19:05no flexibility. You are also politicians, the government is also of politicians.
00:19:09Come and talk to us. We said that we will go, we will talk.
00:19:12They say, no, first you
00:19:16whatever conversation we had, we could not reach any conclusion
00:19:20that first you announce, then there will be a meeting,
00:19:23guarantee this, they will do that. Ultimately,
00:19:27we could not reach any conclusion. Look, brother, they are protesting.
00:19:31They are just protesting, aren't they? Let the government, the Prime Minister, come.
00:19:34The Prime Minister's ministers are here. In a country where protest dies,
00:19:50where opposition dies, that country becomes a graveyard.
00:19:53For God's sake, keep opposition alive. For God's sake, keep the rule of law alive.
00:19:57For God's sake, keep people
00:20:00Yes, we are all seeing the hot policy of this government,
00:20:03which is to pick up people, and not just pick them up, but to break
00:20:07into houses under three MPOs. We are seeing all this. Yet you are expecting
00:20:11that they should not do this. That is probably difficult. But what I understand
00:20:15about your point, Allama Sahib, is that you are saying that we only
00:20:19asked to arrange a meeting with Imran Khan, which they did not agree to,
00:20:22and they expect that first you withdraw the call for protest,
00:20:26and then if anything happens, it will happen. Is that it? Look,
00:20:29listen, governments and politicians have flexibility.
00:20:33They want to solve people's problems instead of creating problems for themselves.
00:20:38What kind of talk is this, first you do this, then we will do this?
00:20:41The Supreme Court made a decision, you took it to Shaukat Hospital.
00:20:44What are you acting upon? What should be believed from your words?
00:20:48The situation in Pakistan is such that
00:21:06sometimes Jamaat-e-Islami comes, sometimes farmers come,
00:21:10sometimes someone else. One day,
00:21:13they will all come out together, then what will you do? Whom will you shoot?
00:21:17Whom will you scare? Your meeting with Muhammad Naqvi Sahib happened,
00:21:50Allama Sahib, and regarding Mohsin Naqvi Sahib, it was that he was in touch with Gohar Sahib
00:21:54during the meeting, and he was also on board with this whole facilitation of taking
00:21:58him to Shifa Hospital. Sir, they say this, but
00:22:02he also did not show any flexibility in his conversation with you.
00:22:04Look, brother,
00:22:07I am saying again and again that you will have to show flexibility.
00:22:11You should officially talk to the people
00:22:14who are demonstrating, who are protesting.
00:22:18Whoever you are, you talk to them. You are also talking to Jamaat-e-Islami,
00:22:22you talk to everyone. To sideline PTA and to declare
00:22:2670-80-90% of the people of Pakistan as terrorists,
00:22:29to declare them as extremists. Extremism is this, terrorism is this,
00:22:33that you harass someone, shoot them, kill them.
00:22:36This is terrorism. What is the definition of terrorism?
00:22:38That is, to harass, to illegally enter people's homes,
00:22:44to kill them. This is terrorism. Who is doing this?
00:22:48So before
00:22:51time passes and water flows under the bridges,
00:22:55and then you get nothing. Allama Sahib, are there any chances of talks this week,
00:22:59or are they over? Is there a deadlock that will continue until the 27th?
00:23:03Look, no one closes the door to negotiations.
00:23:08Closing the door to talks is not right. Whoever loves their country,
00:23:11whoever wants peace in this country,
00:23:15progress and development within this country, they never close the door to talks.
00:23:19We never close the door to talks. Come, let's talk reasonably.
00:23:23Sit down and talk properly. Solve the problems. What do you want?
00:23:26What is written in this demand? Perhaps the demands will increase now.
00:23:30Imran Khan Sahib's treatment, meetings, his
00:23:33fundamental rights should be given to him. Correct. This is absolutely right. And
00:23:37yesterday I had a big talk. Sir Allama Sahib, yesterday Sheikh Waqas Akram Sahib
00:23:40was on my program, and I asked him if Tehreek Tahaffuz-e-Aain-e-Pakistan would also be with you in this
00:23:44protest. He said that they would be with us morally,
00:23:48and I also asked by naming your party,
00:23:50he said they would be morally, and I think
00:23:54comes and says that they will be morally, it means you people will stay at home,
00:23:58you will not come out with PTI. What is this plan of Tehreek Tahaffuz-e-Aain-e-Pakistan?
00:24:01Look, I think
00:24:04things will become clear in a day or two.
00:24:07Yes, and I hope that perhaps the whole of Pakistan will come out.
00:24:11Okay, you will see in a day or two,
00:24:13and things are coming out. The whole of Pakistan will come out,
00:24:17not just PTI. The whole of Pakistan will come out.
00:24:21I am saying again and again, for God's sake, be sensible.
00:24:25Time is slipping away quickly. Our rulers should
00:24:29pay attention to Pakistan. Don't stay outside Pakistan too much.
00:24:32There is insecurity and problems here. This system has collapsed.
00:24:35Stay in Pakistan and try to fix it. If politicians don't fix it,
00:24:39then who will fix it? Thank you very much, Allama Raja Nasir Abbas,
00:24:43who was with us, saying that the protest on September 27 will be peaceful.
00:24:46It will be the government's responsibility to talk to us. We will talk more
00:24:50about this topic, for which we have been joined by senior journalist and analyst Hamid Mir.
00:24:54Hamid Sahib, thank you very much for joining us. There is a protest
00:24:58on the 27th, but before that, big news came today that Aleema Khan Sahiba,
00:25:01Imran Khan's sister, has been arrested under three MPOs.
00:25:05Now many people are saying that she was a crowd-puller, so she should not have been in Punjab,
00:25:09there are so many restrictions there, she should have been in KP,
00:25:13but on the other hand, the important question is that the Noon League
00:25:17shows great sensitivity that women should not be dragged into politics
00:25:20in this way or arrested, but today,
00:25:24after Bushra Bibi, Aleema Khan Sahiba has also been arrested from Punjab.
00:25:28Look, there is a legal aspect to this arrest, and there is a political
00:25:31aspect to it. The legal aspect
00:25:35is very important that Aleema Khan was arrested under
00:25:39three MPOs, Section Three of the Maintenance of Public Ordinance
00:25:421960. So Ayub Khan, who was Pakistan's
00:25:46first military dictator, when he started arrests,
00:25:51he was not getting cases, so then he gave authority
00:25:54to the Deputy Commissioner to arrest anyone,
00:25:57and this is coming from the British era, it was the Rowlatt
00:26:01Act of 1918.
00:26:04When Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali opposed this law when
00:26:07arrests without trial were brought in, he resigned from his assembly
00:26:10membership. This is our history, such a black law,
00:26:14it was a black law, such a black law it is. So he
00:26:18Ayub Khan Sahib introduced
00:26:21this three MPO in 1960.
00:26:24After that, many people are arrested in this way. Yes, this means that this is a colonial law,
00:26:28this is a black law, and it is used
00:27:02when you do not have any case
00:27:06against a politician or a journalist, then you arrest them under three
00:27:09Now, not only the Punjab
00:27:12Government uses three MPO, but the PTI government in KP
00:27:17It is mostly used against journalists, but the police generally
00:27:21use it. The PTI government says that
00:27:24we don't know about it. Okay, but when
00:27:28Imran Khan Sahib was Prime Minister,
00:27:32So this is a black law and a colonial legacy,
00:27:36it should be abolished. Now, let's come to the other
00:27:39political aspect of your question. Yes, the political aspect is
00:27:43that during Imran Khan's tenure,
00:27:47اب ا جائیں جو اپ کے سوال کا دوسرا سیاسی پہلو سیاسی پہلو
00:27:52کہ
00:27:55and it was said that Imran Khan
00:27:58victimized the women of our family. Then Imran Khan went to jail,
00:28:02and Shahbaz Sharif Sahib became Prime Minister, so Bushra Bibi was arrested.
00:28:05It balanced out. Now you have arrested Imran Khan's sister
00:28:08under three MPOs. This means
00:28:12that you did not have any case of corruption or any illegal
00:28:15activity against her. In the cases against her,
00:28:19she is on bail. She has been granted bail.
00:28:23Now this balance sheet has gone bad.
00:28:26The balance sheet of politics in Pakistan has gone bad.
00:28:30Okay, first one woman of the Sharif family was arrested,
00:28:34they arrested one woman of Imran Khan's family, now you have arrested
00:28:37the second woman of Omar's family, and you have arrested
00:28:41his real elder sister, whose age
00:28:44is also advanced. So I think
00:28:47that this new injection of vendetta and revenge
00:28:51in Pakistan's politics will have effects
00:28:54that we will suffer for many years, not many decades,
00:28:57for many decades, and this series will continue. That is, if Imran Khan
00:29:01comes into power somehow, or if PTI comes into power,
00:29:04then this revenge will continue. Look, whether Imran Khan comes into power or not,
00:29:08this is a precedent set by the Punjab Government,
00:29:12whose head is Maryam Nawaz Sahiba,
00:29:16and it will be taken in this sense that because Maryam Nawaz
00:29:19was arrested during Imran Khan's tenure, so that's fine.
00:29:23ہیں وہ مریم نواز صاحبہ ہیں اور اس کو
00:29:26that please come to Peshawar
00:29:30گیا تھا تو ٹھیک ہے
00:30:02and when we hold a long march on September 27,
00:30:06you should join it. Aleema Khan Sahiba said that
00:30:10since Imran Khan has given instructions
00:30:13politics, I will stay in Lahore. Don't worry,
00:30:17I will mobilize the crowd in Lahore. Right, okay.
00:30:20So she was arrested. Now,
00:30:23in this
00:30:25Aleema Khan Sahiba knew that she was going
00:30:28to be arrested. Now, regarding the protest
00:30:32on the 27th, Allama Nasir Sahib was still with us and
00:30:35was saying that the protest will happen. PTI is also saying this. Meanwhile,
00:30:39Attaullah Tarar and the government are saying that they will not allow them to come to Islamabad.
00:30:43Does the coming week seem like a week of confrontation to you?
00:30:47What is the situation you are seeing? Look, for the past
00:30:50two to three weeks, back-door channels
00:30:53were open.