Türkiye: Halk TV — Kursad Oguz ile Rota

20260915 01:00 UTC · 03:00:23 · 2139 transcript segments · GDELT Visual Explorer · plain-text transcript · Event Map

Kürşad Oğuz ile Rota, Halk TV ekranlarında gündemin en kritik siyasi ve toplumsal meselelerini kapsamlı bir şekilde ele alan bir programdır. Deneyimli gazeteciler Kürşad Oğuz, güncel gelişmeleri tarafsız ve cesur bir yaklaşımla tartışırken, alanında uzman konukların yorumlarına da yer veriyor. Program, izleyicilere olayların arka planını ve farklı perspektiflerini sunarak geniş bir analiz imkanı sağlıyor. "Rota", Halk TV'de gündemi yakından takip etmek isteyenler için önemli bir tartışma platformu.

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00:00:00That is, if Erdoğan hadn't existed, perhaps this regime
00:00:03wouldn't exist either, and the MHP couldn't be a part of that regime. That is, Erdoğan's pragmatism,
00:00:07inclusiveness, alliance
00:00:10policies, and capacity to adapt
00:00:13to the politics needed, both domestically and internationally, these
00:00:17are actually what established it. It wasn't founded on ideological unity,
00:00:20but on a political line, a common vision
00:00:24for the future. It was founded on pragmatism,
00:00:27the MHP. Otherwise, the MHP is like this, historically. Serena is very right
00:00:31when she said it. It has no policy in economics. In foreign policy, whether
00:00:35you've done this or that, the MHP doesn't speak outside of very basic national security
00:00:38matters. The MHP has no economic policy. The IMF comes, implements a program,
00:00:42and it doesn't make a sound. The IMF leaves, you call it domestic and national, and it doesn't make a sound.
00:00:45Does anyone wonder about its program? The MHP is not a programmatic party,
00:00:49not a mass party. I'm curious about the 100-article constitutional
00:00:52proposal, but that's already related to this.
00:00:55So, it's a bit like looking at what's
00:00:59happening now. But let's not forget, this is not a very
00:01:03happy togetherness. This is always
00:01:06tense, always creating tension
00:01:09here as we look forward. That is, the MHP's
00:01:13especially because it could vision doesn't align with the AKP's view of the future,
00:01:16or it may not align. Look, almost everyone
00:01:20Bahçeli has taken a photo with has seen a prison, and you can't
00:01:23get any of them out. This is also true, you know. Isn't it many people?
00:01:27In the Aziz Hisan Aktaş case, the detainee is very good. He said, "He is very close to me,"
00:01:31and referred him, but the person still hasn't been released. None of what he said during the process
00:01:34happened. Therefore, this, you know,
00:01:37that relationship, uh,
00:01:40peaceful, happy, stable togetherness,
00:01:44rather, as expectations for the future
00:01:47increase, tensions emerge from today. Therefore, different, different,
00:01:50uh, something like this also happened sometimes,
00:01:53you know, these days, Bahçeli shared with the public
00:01:56what he told Nagihan Alçı, right? Also,
00:02:00of course, the Minister of Justice, yes, a two-story house for Bahçeli. No,
00:02:03it's not a denial, there are things happening there, things
00:02:07are happening there, of course, uh,
00:02:10the Minister of Justice spoke as if to invalidate
00:02:14the information about its Ocalan dimension, uh,
00:02:18we can also give that as an example. Especially sometimes
00:02:21we discuss
00:02:24if there's tension, what's happening. Actually, those tensions are not due
00:02:27to today's events. Now, the MHP is
00:02:30more advanced, it is expressing a policy
00:02:33about the perpetuation and continuation of this regime in a different
00:02:37way. As it expresses that, conflicts arise
00:02:40in today's pragmatic relationship.
00:02:44He says such a house was built for Ocalan, but
00:02:47he doesn't use it because
00:02:50he has no status. Status should be given.
00:02:52Think about it, he rejected the house, he rejected
00:02:56the status. The AKP is also stalling because the AKP is the party
00:03:00that needs to get votes, not the MHP, yes. The MHP
00:03:04defines this state, that is, it defines
00:03:07a new state in its own way and has positioned itself at the center
00:03:11and core of it. Let me say a couple
00:03:21Vietnam, Brazil, England, look at all these places. Outside of Africa,
00:03:24everyone has increased the price
00:03:28of free meals for elementary school children,
00:03:31children in their development stage, and the contribution was not enough.
00:03:35For example, Vietnamese people ask children what they like
00:03:38and expanded the menu. This year, they added such a thing. That is, they are already giving
00:03:42money, and they say, let's not give standard food,
00:03:46because not everyone might like the same thing. So they take requests from students
00:03:49for five or six types of dishes. That is,
00:03:52people around the world have switched to food,
00:03:56to giving cheap food, free food. Can I say something, because of this, why?
00:04:00Vietnam, with all your exports, has achieved more technology
00:04:03exports. This country is also competing with
00:04:07Finland in education, coming in at number one, because they ask why
00:04:11this is happening. It's not for nothing. Let me give you a figure related to that.
00:04:15Aren't there such bridges with guaranteed passage? Many resources
00:04:18are flowing there. I've planned my
00:04:21100 years, 1000 years. There's a simple calculation:
00:04:25every $1 you spend on free school meals
00:04:28returns to you between $7 and $35.
00:04:32That is, the world, a very, very
00:04:34clear scientific study has been done.
00:04:37There is a coalition called the World School Meal Coalition, which Turkey
00:04:41Unfortunately, Last year, there were 108
00:04:45countries in the world. Today, it's 113 countries
00:04:49that provide free school meals to their children.
00:04:52Many of these countries, that is,
00:04:56except for two countries in Europe, they also need it.
00:05:07Millions of children get hot meals
00:05:10every day in India. All children in the system
00:05:14are covered with hot yes and by
00:05:17the way
00:05:20we are envied because they can't even give a free toast and ayran. Look, they can't
00:05:24give a free toast and an ayran.
00:05:26Those children will go hungry. Now look, for example, schools opened today,
00:05:30tomorrow is mealtime. Now there are such critical and
00:05:34tragic issues that teachers experience
00:05:37a great tragedy when mealtime comes. Children with full lunch
00:05:41boxes. Children with empty lunch boxes.
00:05:44Children with only a bread with tomato paste in their lunch box.
00:05:48Not a toast, not a chicken döner sandwich.
00:05:51In England, the current discussion in England is
00:05:55whether to have fries or not. The world has come to this point,
00:05:58they are discussing the menu, should we do this,
00:06:02should we do that? Since Vietnam was mentioned,
00:06:06I would like to share an anecdote
00:06:08I experienced with you. Between 2013-2014,
00:06:11"I was the chairman of the Vietnam Friendship Group. The Vietnamese Ambassador
00:06:15came to visit me specifically in the parliament, and he had asked
00:06:18for my help in getting appointments with the Speaker of the Parliament
00:06:22and our ministers responsible for economy at that time.
00:06:25Under the conditions of that day, Turkey's trade volume with Vietnam
00:06:29was approximately 35 or 40 thousand,
00:06:32uh, million dollars only.
00:06:36Yes, he was making a great effort to increase this to 100 million dollars.
00:06:39Mr. Bahadır said a little while ago, "
00:06:51He made an assessment regarding the payments
00:06:54made for interest with a wholesale approach from 2001
00:06:57to 2026. I also shared a table
00:07:00regarding interest payments from 2002 to
00:07:042018-2021 with you. Now, let's acknowledge
00:07:07this right. In 2002, he took over
00:07:11as interest payment.
00:07:21In 2016, at the end of 2015, when Mr. Babacan left,
00:07:24these figures were never exceeded
00:07:26in any period.
00:07:28Between 2002 and 2015, inflation
00:07:32had fallen to single-digit figures, and interest
00:07:35payments also continued almost at the same level
00:07:38as in 2002, in a stable condition, until 2015-16.
00:07:42"In fact, it continued until 2018. When
00:07:45in economics, a different method
00:07:49was adopted with the thesis that interest is the cause and inflation
00:07:52is the result, and the Central Bank, through the back door,
00:07:55in the 2019 local elections, emptied
00:07:58130 billion dollars in a way that it was unknown
00:08:02to whom it was sold, when it was sold, and at what price it was sold. After that, that
00:08:05balance was broken. From 2019 onwards, until
00:08:08today, it has reached
00:08:122 trillion 742 billion liras,
00:08:15and the foreign exchange protected deposit is on top of that,
00:08:19excluding that. Therefore, this government,
00:08:22not because we don't have the means, not because of scarcity,
00:08:25but because it is a matter of choice
00:08:29to allocate a budget to meet the nutritional needs of these children,
00:08:33otherwise, believe me, it would have the means
00:08:36to easily fill those lunch boxes,
00:08:40because as soon as it came to power,
00:08:43you know, this government had made books
00:08:46free. It had saved all primary
00:08:49schools from the trouble of books. Because at that time,
00:08:53you know what, Mr. Gökmen, behind the success story
00:08:56of that day was the desire to govern
00:08:59the country with strong institutions that made strong
00:09:03decisions and stood behind them, and with competent, qualified
00:09:06people. When you make
00:09:09strong decisions and equip
00:09:13them with strong institutions, and
00:09:16bring competent, qualified cadres
00:09:18to the helm, it doesn't matter who the name is. This country
00:09:22will quickly see good days, beautiful days
00:09:26again. But currently, the government's choice
00:09:29is unfortunately a choice in favor of interest,
00:09:32a choice based on rent,
00:09:35and a management approach that can satisfy
00:09:38a small number of people. It is worth stating this especially now.
00:09:42Let me just say something about IBB today, since it's the topic. Look, IBB has been
00:09:46subjected to so many operations, so many cadres, bureaucrats are inside, yes.
00:09:49An 8 billion lira aid package for children,
00:09:52meals for students, an aid package for pensioners,
00:09:55a rental aid package announced, 8 billion liras. That's a huge
00:09:59amount for IBB in this condition. You know, daycares were deemed a crime,
00:10:03dormitories are being tried to be taken,
00:10:06uh, city restaurants were mocked.
00:10:09They saw that it was very effective, and they are crashing down
00:10:13on them, as you know, they are being closed. Despite
00:10:17this, in these conditions, look, the bureaucrats and politicians there still
00:10:20prioritize the situation of the people, which is very important. They announced it today. I think
00:10:24today was its most important event. Yes. In fact, today, the Ankara Metropolitan
00:10:28Municipality also announced it. It was an incredible figure. Especially
00:10:31in schools, it is striving for one meal. But to support
00:10:35what Mr. İdris said, in order for us to truly
00:10:39grasp the essence of the matter, all of society, all of us,
00:10:42must realize that this is a matter
00:10:46of priority, of choice.
00:10:49The government does not choose this,
00:10:52because this government used to provide one
00:10:55free meal and clean water to children in both
00:10:58transported education and preschool
00:11:02education for up to 4 million students.
00:11:04This was the first thing the government cut.
00:11:08It lost votes because it abolished it in both preschool
00:11:12and transported education. It abolished it.
00:11:15That is, it had reached up to 4 million, it started with 1.5 million,
00:11:18and it had reached up to 4 million. Why did it abolish
00:11:22it, sir? That is, for the sake of saving?
00:11:28I'm quoting the honorable minister: for
00:11:31the sake of saving. That is, everything
00:11:35that could be saved is gone, and this is what's left. The free
00:11:38meal for 4 million children. If children voted,
00:11:42would they even have a task? But their vote doesn't matter,
00:11:46so it's not a problem. They already said that as education increases, our votes
00:11:50decrease. After saying this, these matters
00:11:53were entrusted to sects, foundations, and communities.
00:11:57You started doing this with children after that, because education
00:12:01in every country ignites the yearning for a better life
00:12:04and for a better politics, a better state, a more just order. This is an inevitable
00:12:08development of humanity. It's not about
00:12:11saving, sir. They can
00:12:14do it elsewhere, of course. Of course, I'm just saying
00:12:18that it's not their priority, they can ignore
00:12:21it. Why isn't it their priority? The issue is that
00:12:33people cannot pay
00:12:35for their children's school transportation fees, they cannot pay
00:12:39school installments, and they cannot even afford the most basic
00:12:42meal. But from those who cannot afford a meal
00:12:46to those who cannot pay for school transportation, even those who are better off cannot
00:12:50pay school installments. In fact, this is everyone's common denominator.
00:12:53Therefore, what does a government need to gain support?
00:12:57To convince broad segments of society, it could actually invest
00:13:00here. But the issue comes back to the same point, I think.
00:13:04We've moved past these ideological etc.
00:13:06tendencies. Currently, the voter's,
00:13:09or rather, our society's power to make the government do something,
00:13:13as if The power to change the government
00:13:16or to create public opinion. There is no longer
00:13:20an area where civil society can make its voice heard.
00:13:23The platforms where opposition parties
00:13:26can make their voices heard are gone. The parliament, you say, is already
00:13:30dysfunctional. On the other hand, the government does not
00:13:33need the votes of these voters. Why did citizens
00:13:36give their votes to local governments? Was it only because there were very
00:13:40popular candidates? No. It happened because of
00:13:43the promises they made, especially after 2019,
00:13:45due to the activities of IBB and Ankara Metropolitan
00:13:48Municipality. But right now, throughout the entire broadcast,
00:13:52the political ground we are discussing is reaching such a point
00:13:55that since their public support doesn't matter,
00:13:59why should priority be given But there's nothing
00:14:02in all these processes, in the upcoming process,
00:14:06the point where society will be cut the most towards this election will be short-term, artificial
00:14:09uh, certain economic
00:14:13supports could exist, happened
00:14:15Now, here there's something
00:14:17called deep poverty
00:14:20network, yes, Hacer Fogo, yes, dear viewers, Hacer Fogo
00:14:24worked on this for years, she compiled
00:14:28studies, observations, and stories on this topic. Of course,
00:14:31she continues, but at that time, it was much more prominent,
00:14:35the story was on the agenda. Let's repeat the most striking
00:14:38situation she described while we're talking
00:14:41about this topic. She had observed
00:14:43some children who preferred to be seen
00:14:47around during snack time. That is, she learned
00:14:50that there were such children. Yes, that is, when snack time
00:14:53came, they wouldn't stay in the classroom and would go out
00:14:57to the yard. Yes, children who preferred to be seen around.
00:15:01This is the situation. Look, let me tell you something else
00:15:04Ms. Hacer said, this is truly tragic.
00:15:07Uh, there are children who fill their stomachs
00:15:10with water. With water,
00:15:13but in most of these schools,
00:15:15there is no clean water, no clean
00:15:19water. They can buy water from the canteen. When you
00:15:23put water, they take it away saying it's spilled. So,
00:15:26uh, the municipality had initiatives in this regard. Professor Öner
00:15:30mentioned that
00:15:33some schools did not accept the work
00:15:36he wanted to do.
00:15:4940 years ago, 40 years ago, when we
00:15:53were in primary school, milk, hazelnuts, and grapes
00:16:25to even give our children one meal, taking us back
00:16:2940 years. This is what we should be talking about. There's no water
00:16:32in the school, no water, Mr. İdris. Children cannot
00:16:36access water. In this regard,
00:16:39we, as the DEVA Party, had a project
00:16:42to provide a water dispenser and a water purifier
00:16:46for every single school. The architect of this project
00:16:49was Ms. Evrim Rızvanoğlu. However,
00:16:52we couldn't keep Evrim Rızvanoğlu. Now, the new party will
00:16:56implement this project, God willing.
00:16:59I suppose you, Ms. Ebru, are also very interested in this topic.
00:17:03Did I misremember the name? It could be Ms. Ebru
00:17:06will come." Our Ms. Evrim was
00:17:10dealing with this in DEVA. Now Ms. Elif is dealing with it,
00:17:14Ms. Zeynep is dealing with it, Ms. Zeynep,
00:17:18yes, Ms. Elif is also specifically
00:17:21following up on this, because when Ms. Evrim left, it fell
00:17:25to our Istanbul Member of Parliament, Elif Hesene, to complete
00:17:29the unfinished projects she left behind.
00:17:39the MHP sometimes talks about changing the electoral system as well. But even there,
00:17:43it would block the path to success for other parties, say the İyi Party.
00:17:47But if they introduced narrow constituencies,
00:17:50then they themselves would suffer, meaning, given the MHP's current
00:17:54vote share, such a scenario doesn't seem possible, I think.
00:17:58Uh, there's definitely something we can understand with codes
00:18:02and so on, but I completely interpret it as something
00:18:05related to the electoral system, related to the regime.
00:18:19And for the period after that, after Erdoğan, the dynamics of this regime, I think, that is, the dynamics
00:18:22of the political ground currently being shaped, are
00:18:25preparing for the period after President Erdoğan, that is, after
00:18:29a period when he can no longer serve. The current dynamics are also
00:18:32based on President Erdoğan running
00:18:36and winning the next election, I think. A significant
00:18:39portion of opposition actors are also acting with this belief.
00:18:42So, these messages should be read in that way,
00:18:46but since it's not a very detailed message, as Professor Öner
00:18:50said, we are constantly looking for something underneath it.
00:18:53We need more details. Also, of course, it has spread from Bahçeli
00:18:57to all MHP members. He likes to throw out
00:19:00a statement and create a discussion. Old journalists know Bahçeli,
00:19:03that is, when we watched him, he used to say such things because in the past,
00:19:07when he first became the head of the MHP,
00:19:10he wouldn't speak, he wouldn't speak, he'd say, "Don't worry, I'll give you a headline."
00:19:14He'd say something, and then for a week,
00:19:17what was he saying? But as far as I know
00:19:20Celal Bey, this
00:19:36let's move on to the next. I also wonder why
00:19:39Oktay Saral, the name in the Palace, got so angry,
00:19:43why he reacted so harshly. What did Arınç say to him? We'll discuss that,
00:19:47and also, can
00:19:50a member of parliament, a member of the ruling party, be threatened
00:19:53by a governor? What kind of thing is this? What kind of accusation,
00:19:56to be more precise? We'll also discuss
00:19:58that in a moment.
00:20:46It continues openly, dear viewers. Something very interesting happened.
00:20:50That is, a member of parliament alleged that
00:20:53the governor of his province threatened him and shared
00:20:57this with the public. Justice and Development Party Burdur MP,
00:21:01Professor Dr. Adem Korkmaz.
00:21:04He states that he voiced the reactions to the compulsory digital
00:21:07water meter in Burdur in Ankara.
00:21:10He explains that the Ministry of Interior intervened in this matter.
00:21:14And then,
00:21:16uh, in Burdur, Governor Tülay Baydar. He says
00:21:20he heard her saying, "I will take the professor too."
00:21:24That is, according to his hearing, the governor said something like that.
00:21:27He then states that he went to meet
00:21:31with her. Now, let's listen to him describe it in his own
00:21:34voice. How did Justice and Development Party Burdur MP Adem
00:21:38Korkmaz describe this situation? Let's watch.
00:21:42That is, he doesn't say, "Look, I'll take you." When he repeated the same phrase,
00:21:45"I'll take the professor," there was nothing more to say.
00:21:49I've been living with this burden for a year, I have no worries.
00:21:53But now I'm going to
00:21:57say something else. My
00:22:00"I'll take him"
00:22:02statement is right there in the open. When this combines
00:22:06with these events, then how will
00:22:09I fill this in? What
00:22:12will I understand?
00:22:14Is this a political statement?
00:22:18Who will protect my life safety, Mr. Hasan?
00:22:21Look, this is the duty of the state, and it is also the duty of the civil administration
00:22:25to protect the life safety and property safety of the society. Brother, how will
00:22:29I fill in this threat here?
00:22:32I requested protection from the Ankara Governorship for this.
00:22:36I am sharing this for the first time. My life
00:22:39safety, here, I requested
00:22:43protection from the Ankara Governorship for this. That is,
00:22:46he doesn't say, "I'll take you." The same expression.
00:22:50Mr. İdris, were you able to look into this matter at all? Well, this attracted a lot of attention, that is, a member
00:22:54of parliament.
00:22:56For the last two days, I have also encountered these statements,
00:23:00especially on social media. In fact, these statements
00:23:03by the honorable member of parliament show that the political institution
00:23:07has failed. Earlier, Serena made a point.
00:23:10That is, if you combine the government
00:23:13with the state, if you eliminate the distinction
00:23:16between government and state, if you also hollow out
00:23:20the political institution, in the period after 2018,
00:23:23the governors of the state say, "Sir, the authority that appointed
00:23:26the members of parliament is the same authority that appointed
00:23:29me here." Therefore, if you get
00:23:32used to acting like a governor of the government,
00:23:36then you will find
00:23:39the courage and audacity to even threaten
00:23:43an elected member of parliament of the government. This is an extremely
00:23:46inappropriate attitude and behavior, and it is absolutely
00:23:50unacceptable for an appointed official
00:23:53to use such a condescending tone and utter such a sentence
00:23:57against an elected official. For this reason, we reiterate
00:24:00that the institutions of the state and state
00:24:04administration are separate. Governments are temporary,
00:24:07the state is permanent. We must emphasize
00:24:11and separate this distinction with thick lines.
00:24:14However, I regret to state that after the 2017 Constitutional
00:24:18amendment, this system has combined
00:24:22them. In most provinces,
00:24:25provincial governors act like provincial chairmen,
00:24:29and from time to time, the provincial
00:24:31chairmen of the government
00:24:34put themselves in the place of the governor and
00:24:37are in conflict with each other regarding duties and powers.
00:24:40Here, there is only one thing that the honorable
00:24:44member of parliament should do: if he respects the will
00:24:48of the elected, if he wants to protect his honor,
00:24:51he must resolve this matter with the governor
00:24:55and with the Minister of Interior. And if a member of parliament
00:24:58in the same province acts with the feeling
00:25:02that he has been threatened by the governor,
00:25:05then it is not possible to talk about the freedom
00:25:08of the people's will and the belief that sovereignty
00:25:11belongs unconditionally to the nation.
00:25:14The honorable member of parliament is responsible for protecting
00:25:17his honor and the will of the people
00:25:20of Burdur there. This is my personal opinion.
00:25:24Now, as far as we understand, there is a discussion
00:25:28regarding the compulsory digital water meter
00:25:32in an application in Burdur. He says he voiced
00:25:35these reactions in Ankara. He says the Ministry of Interior
00:25:38intervened in this matter. And he reacted
00:25:41to the governor's statement that "I will take the professor too." What does
00:25:45"I will take him" mean? What
00:25:48does it mean? Where to? In the sense of "I will harm him."
00:25:51Yes, does that imply something? They say, "I'll make you come off your feet,"
00:25:55etc. So, what does the governor
00:25:58have to do with the water meter?
00:26:01isn't it? He
00:26:04explains that the ministry intervened in the matter when he brought it up in Ankara,
00:26:08and that the governor then said that he heard something like that.
00:26:11But here, what is truly striking is that
00:26:15one is a member of parliament and the other is a governor. Moreover,
00:26:19it's not even an opposition MP, but an MP of the ruling party. So, yes,
00:26:22what is it that cannot be discussed and understood here? What
00:26:26is not part of their dialogue? It's as if
00:26:30the MP prevented something the governor wanted to do
00:26:34even though he was warned or told about it. But this is for a governor, Suat Bey,
00:26:37for God's sake, Gökmen Bey is letting
00:26:40us speak here, but
00:26:43the gentleman is a member of the ruling
00:26:47party, and the other is a governor appointed by the ruling
00:26:51party. We were just talking about the opposition here. What he means
00:26:54here, in fact, is that the governor says, "Even
00:26:57though the MP complained about me to the Ministry
00:27:01of Interior in Ankara, he doesn't have the power to
00:27:05get me removed. But I have the power
00:27:08to remove the MP." That's the essence of the matter. "I will remove him,"
00:27:11they say. Yes, but of course, what else did you understand, Gökmen
00:27:15Bey? I don't know, I didn't understand anything else.
00:27:19I'm also trying to understand. Where is the threat here, hocam? Maybe,
00:27:23of course, since you never said "I'll remove you," they'll have a meeting in Kızılcahamam
00:27:26and sort it out. But I think we're discussing
00:27:30a very fundamental problem of the system. It constantly comes before
00:27:34us in a different way. So,
00:27:36is it the MPs, or is it the governor?
00:27:40Is it AK Party MPs, or is it the advisors
00:27:44or bureaucrats in the palace? This is actually a discussion
00:27:47that comes to us constantly, through different people.
00:27:50Generally, the ruling party brings up the problems
00:27:54of the opposition as an agenda item,
00:27:57but actually, underneath,
00:28:01there is a boiling pot within
00:28:04this system, and we constantly hear
00:28:07these discussions and small squabbles. But of course,
00:28:10due to the system there, those names immediately fall silent.
00:28:14The next day, "we have no problems, what you said was distorted,"
00:28:17and so on. But actually, the system is truly
00:28:21a dysfunctional system. The appointed
00:28:25and the elected in terms of duties,
00:28:28powers, and responsibilities, and the support they receive.
00:28:32Look,
00:28:37by complaining about the appointed, claiming it was a tutelary
00:28:40regime, and saying that the national will
00:28:43was not recognized in Turkey, he came. At the point
00:28:46we have reached today, for example, I had never seen that, after the single-party
00:28:49era in the history of the republic,
00:28:52governors and district governors had
00:28:55such authority. On the other hand,
00:28:59they even conduct election campaigns,
00:29:03and you see district governors and governors even on certain social media
00:29:06platforms. They are running a communication
00:29:10campaign. Therefore, in the system, one side
00:29:14is stronger in terms of authority and influence, and the other side
00:29:17receives the support of the people's will.
00:29:20It says, "My source is the people's will," but actually
00:29:24there is no such influence, no such power, etc. I think this situation
00:29:27also shows both the system
00:29:30and who has more power.
00:29:40From their complaints, we see that they are very
00:29:44dissatisfied with being powerless in the parliament, with not being
00:29:47able to solve anything. We constantly see this,
00:29:50but probably tomorrow or the day after, this discussion
00:29:54will close. He probably
00:29:56made the statement here because he knew
00:29:59this. I think these examples also become
00:30:03a fundamental indicator of the parliament's dysfunction.
00:30:06Or he had him dismissed by saying, "Does a governor dress like this?" Therefore,
00:30:10here, bureaucracy is all intertwined, but basically
00:30:13a CHP deputy, a CHP deputy,
00:30:16a CHP deputy supporting the administration
00:30:19of the province, yes,
00:30:23he got him dismissed, that is,
00:30:26he caused his dismissal, let's say. He said, "What kind of clothing is this?"
00:30:30They said, "What kind of clothing is this?"
00:30:33So, here, I mean, what kind of function does the parliament take on?
00:30:36It's not like an MP was listened to, but rather,
00:30:40an MP's complaint has been listened to.
00:30:44So, what Seren Hoca said is truly who is where,
00:30:47how much responsibility, how has the hierarchy changed
00:30:51within this hierarchical structure, how much has what is called
00:30:54tutelage changed in nature. For years,
00:30:57we talked about military tutelage, now we are moving
00:31:01towards a conceptualization called civil tutelage. How much
00:31:05of civil tutelage is, in quotes, civil? So,
00:31:07these and similar indicators,
00:31:11I think, show that the parliament,
00:31:14the position in parliament, can take on a completely different
00:31:17quality depending on a bureaucrat's relationships, network,
00:31:20and how extensive it is. Otherwise,
00:31:23I say in quotes, can a huge MP
00:31:27come out and talk about the governor's
00:31:30safety, about his safety?
00:31:33It's not easy, yes. He asked
00:31:36from Ankara, so he couldn't get it there either.
00:31:40He asked from Ankara. The MP from
00:31:43Burdur is requesting protection from Ankara
00:31:47for himself. But the real news is what the Ankara governor's
00:31:50office is doing. We don't know that, sir. There's also the impact
00:31:54this has on society. in Turkey,
00:31:58of course, when you experience a problem,
00:32:01when you suffer injustice and unlawfulness,
00:32:04people don't believe that it will be resolved
00:32:07fairly. Now, these incidents are very serious and show
00:32:11something else. If an MP experiences this,
00:32:15if an MP of the party experiences such a threat, such a thing,
00:32:18what will I do? So this is like
00:32:22a place where there is no law or right, and the person we call the governor
00:32:25is responsible for the security of that province, for the security
00:32:29forces, and is their superior. Therefore,
00:32:33this seems like just a discussion, but
00:32:36indeed, society, we also
00:32:39conduct different research, and we ask similar
00:32:43questions in each of them. People have no faith in justice. But
00:32:47think of the opposite: if you are powerful,
00:32:50it's a system where you can do anything. So, if there's
00:32:54power behind you, support, you can do any
00:32:57injustice, unlawfulness, or bullying.
00:32:59This is actually a very, very
00:33:03deep and profound issue, but it seems contradictory. We are
00:33:07discussing this event, a problem within the ruling party itself.
00:33:10The best example of the power
00:33:13system that governors have is the intervention
00:33:16of the Istanbul Governor in the Üsküdar
00:33:19Municipal Council. So, a fight broke out here
00:33:23about a water meter. I don't know the reason. What
00:33:26didn't the gentleman like about the water
00:33:29meter? I don't know that either.
00:33:33Why did the governor get involved in something that is the municipality's
00:33:37business? I don't know that either, but what I do
00:33:40know is that he probably objected to it being made mandatory. The MP probably objected to making the digital water meter mandatory.
00:33:43Please continue. Well,
00:33:47I don't know, but I
00:33:50know the intervention of the Istanbul
00:33:53governor in the election in the Üsküdar Municipal
00:33:56Council. You mean in terms of the election date, right?
00:34:00The election date. I know that he prevented
00:34:04MPs from entering, first by requiring them to form a group,
00:34:07and then, when the group was formed, by prohibiting political
00:34:11parties from entering. In my opinion,
00:34:16that is much more important. So, why are we discussing
00:34:19this? Of course, in terms of showing the nature
00:34:23of the system, it shows a weakness,
00:34:27it shows a problem. But what happened in Üsküdar, Istanbul,
00:34:30already showed that weakness. So,
00:34:33this gentleman should discuss his problem
00:34:36with Mustafa Demir, who is responsible for local administrations
00:34:39within the party. Isn't that right? Or
00:34:43Mustafa Demir, local administration...
00:34:50Instead of local administrations, he explained his problem to the Ministry
00:34:53of Interior, and the governor heard this and said,
00:34:57"Are you trying to complain about me to the Ministry of Interior?
00:35:00Do you think you can get me removed from here?
00:35:03Watch how I remove you." That's the essence of the sharing.
00:35:07So, here, in fact,
00:35:10you can see how much the elected
00:35:13person's powers are limited
00:35:16and, as a result, it completes a process,
00:35:20because if there is only one will appointing
00:35:24everyone, then the will of the people loses
00:35:27its importance. Here in parliament, we hear
00:35:30many ruling party MPs complaining that a department head doesn't answer their calls,
00:35:34that a general manager doesn't return their calls.
00:35:37And we say, "We have come to such a bad
00:35:41period that in the past, we never experienced
00:35:45any of these. We were also MPs when our party was in power.
00:35:48If a general manager or a department head
00:35:52didn't get back to us when we called them
00:35:55to convey the demands of the people, would such a thing be possible?
00:35:58If the people have given you the authority
00:36:01to govern the country, then those you have appointed
00:36:05are obliged to meet the demands of these people,
00:36:09and they must answer the calls of the elected.
00:36:12This is a necessity. There is no other explanation for this.
00:36:15But now, when we call some governors to convey
00:36:18a problem related to that province, their private secretaries ask
00:36:22which party the caller is from.
00:36:25I tell them to hang up the phone on the private secretary who asks
00:36:29that question. After I call from the Grand National Assembly of Turkey,
00:36:33it doesn't matter which political party I belong to.
00:36:36I am an MP of Turkey, and I am dealing with a problem.
00:36:39Otherwise, we cannot have a special relationship with a governor.
00:36:43We call them to convey the demands of the people and to solve
00:36:46their problems. They are obliged to take us as interlocutors
00:36:50and to listen to us. This applies whether it's a ruling
00:36:53party MP or an opposition MP. But in this system,
00:36:56this is one of the most important pictures
00:37:00showing the parliament's ineffectiveness. The attitude of the honorable MP is also a sign of humiliation,
00:37:03it cannot be expressed in any other way. Well, how does
00:37:07an MP interpret a governor's
00:37:11words to the extent of saying, "I don't have personal safety?"
00:37:14So, it means that regarding the word "I'll take you,"
00:37:17because he says, "What am I to understand from this word?"
00:37:20"I'll take you." Is this a political expression? Who else
00:37:23would make such an insinuation about my personal safety? How will
00:37:27I fill this threat? For example, now, when you think about
00:37:31what "I'll take you" means here, it's like, "You can't remove
00:37:34me from my position, but I can remove you." For example, "I can end
00:37:38your deputyship," or "I can't end it in the next term, but I can
00:37:41end your political
00:37:42career."
00:38:18party MP to worry about personal safety...
00:38:21He would say, "Follow us,
00:38:24what's
00:38:26going on in Turkey?" If a ruling party MP
00:38:30worries about personal safety because of a governor's
00:38:33words, if an elected MP of a province
00:38:36in his own constituency worries about personal
00:38:39safety, there is only one thing he can do:
00:38:42return to the people. This is a sign of humiliation, it cannot be expressed
00:38:46in any other way. If a lady governor
00:38:50says, "I'll take you," and you swallow those words and
00:38:53continue to be an MP there for a year, then
00:39:10I didn't know who it was, I just saw that she was a lady
00:39:13governor, that's why I said it. Otherwise,
00:39:17there is no gender discrimination. The position
00:39:20we are characterizing is the governorship. Whether
00:39:23the governor is a woman or a man, whoever it is, if they are going to
00:39:27threaten the elected MP of that province
00:39:30or make a threatening insinuation,
00:39:34then that MP must solve this
00:39:37problem himself. If he cannot solve it,
00:39:40then there is no point in him coming to parliament
00:39:44to serve as a representative of the people. This is my personal opinion.
00:39:48Yes, and also, why hasn't he taken this complaint to the palace?
00:39:52Has he talked to the people there, or
00:39:55has he taken it, but they decided
00:39:59not to take sides on this issue? We don't know, it's
00:40:02a very strange issue. It's a very strange issue.
00:40:06Well, if an MP fears for his personal
00:40:09safety, is protection not provided when he requests
00:40:12it, İdris Bey? How does it work? So, now, from the Ministry
00:40:16of Interior, some can arbitrarily
00:40:19request protection. So, once
00:40:22a protection order is issued to someone
00:40:26during their term as an MP, they can benefit from this protection order
00:40:30even after their term as an MP ends. This is not just for MPs,
00:40:34but for any citizen who is genuinely
00:40:37facing a sincere threat to their life and property.
00:40:40If you ask what is the most allocated
00:40:44position in this country, it is a protection
00:40:47order. There are tens of thousands of protectors
00:40:50today, carrying the bags of people who don't genuinely
00:40:54need protection, fulfilling their personal
00:40:57needs. This institution must also be abolished.
00:41:01For those who are truly suffering from a lack of personal safety,
00:41:04for those who are genuinely affected by this,
00:41:08of course, a protection order can certainly be issued
00:41:11for their safety after a thorough
00:41:14investigation. But in our country, this is applied
00:41:17very arbitrarily. Even the provincial
00:41:21chairs of the ruling parties have protection behind them, district
00:41:24chairs have protection behind them. I say this with regret,
00:41:28mayors have state protection behind them.
00:41:31If an elected official travels with protection in his own constituency,
00:41:35it shows that he does not trust himself.
00:41:38In the past, such requests were also conveyed
00:41:41to us. During my term as the spokesperson of the coup commission,
00:41:45and as the spokesperson of the solution commission, I always used this sentence:
00:41:49"If I am going to walk around in my own constituency and among our people
00:41:53with protection behind me, I should not be doing this job."
00:41:57Our protection is the love of the people, the bosom of the people.
00:42:00We have never needed any other protection,
00:42:04and I don't think it's right to need it. Look, some ministers
00:42:08who served in the National Security Council
00:42:10can be constantly provided with protection.
00:42:13Senior judges who have fought against organized
00:42:17crime and served in very effective,
00:42:19important positions, or judges who served
00:42:23in state security courts in the past,
00:42:26can be provided with security.
00:42:29But I regret to say that, regardless of their
00:42:33position or qualification, these kinds of protection requests
00:42:36are widely abused. There is absolutely
00:42:40no need for them. If an MP worries
00:42:44about personal safety, as I said,
00:42:47it means they have lost the ability to serve
00:42:51as an independent MP in parliament.
00:42:53If they feel concern and anxiety
00:42:57about their personal safety in their own province
00:43:00because of the governor's words, then
00:43:03there is only one way to solve this:
00:43:06to solve this matter with their party leaders, with their Minister of Interior.
00:43:10Because ultimately, the one who appoints the Minister of Interior
00:43:14is undoubtedly Mr. Erdoğan's own will. The will
00:43:18that appointed both this MP and the governor is Mr. Erdoğan himself.
00:43:21They should solve this matter among themselves.
00:43:23Otherwise, appearing with such a humiliating
00:43:27image on a television program and making this public
00:43:30is, in my opinion,
00:43:34truly a sign of helplessness; I cannot evaluate it as anything else.
00:43:38Now, one of the events we are trying to understand
00:43:42is that Davutoğlu's son had his wedding recently. Arınç was there.
00:43:45Even though it was a wedding, a meeting point,
00:43:49a meeting point for the wedding, he attacked
00:43:51Arınç. No, I mean Arınç.
00:43:55Yes, Arınç attacked Gökçe. He said, "Grandpa is chewing
00:43:59gum and going to the courthouse with a lack of seriousness," etc.
00:44:03Arınç, so to speak, hit Gökçe,
00:44:07and the sound came from the palace.
00:44:28Let's see what Oktay Saral said, folks. Can we bring up
00:44:31visual number 14? Or would you like to first
00:44:34show a part from Arınç's speech at this wedding? Which one
00:44:38should we show? What do you say? Is there nothing?
00:44:41There he is, chewing gum indifferently. You know,
00:44:44Arınç has always been against Gökçek,
00:44:47ever since that parcel-by-parcel story.
00:44:51Again, he got angry at Davutoğlu, gave him as an example,
00:44:54and said, "Look, there's an investigation against him
00:44:57because of a statement he made years ago. He is going to give his statement
00:45:01with utmost seriousness." What did Oktay Saral say? "If Bülent Arınç
00:45:04set up a podium in a square, he wouldn't find anyone
00:45:08around him except a few unconscious
00:45:13people." Oktay Saral starts the polemic directly.
00:45:17"Seeing thousands of people together at the wedding, he took the saz
00:45:20and used the young couple's happiest day as material for his political
00:45:24reckonings. Turning a wedding ceremony into a political podium
00:45:27is neither compatible with etiquette nor with statesmanship.
00:45:31Moreover, his using insolently belittling
00:45:34expressions towards a public prosecutor clearly reveals
00:45:37his pathetic state. The answer given to the phrase 'We will see
00:45:40good days, children,' was 'I believe we have seen
00:45:44good days,' and it set the necessary standard.
00:45:47Mr. Arınç, a wedding podium is not a political arena.
00:45:51Statesmanship is not speaking at every podium you find,
00:45:55but knowing where, when, and how much to speak." Now, look,
00:45:58Oktay Saral started directly with this: "If Bülent Arınç
00:46:01set up a podium in a square, he wouldn't find anyone
00:46:05around him except a few unconscious people." And he's not just attacking
00:46:09Arınç, but also those around him. So they
00:46:12are also unconscious in this situation, those gathered
00:46:15around him. I mean, İdris Şahin
00:46:19knows these names, these political figures.
00:46:22İdris Bey, why did such a thing
00:46:26happen? Arınç attacked Gökçek, and the sound
00:46:29came from the palace. What is
00:46:31it? First of all, Gökmen Bey, let me
00:46:35say this: neither Oktay Bey,
00:46:38nor I, nor
00:46:41the people who have been commenting recently,
00:46:44none of us are,
00:46:47in my opinion, of a caliber
00:46:50to judge Mr. Bülent Arınç's statesmanship, political
00:46:53experience, or where he should speak. Let me state that first.
00:46:56We served as MPs together. We did with Oktay Bey, and with Bülent
00:47:00Bey. Bülent Bey is not
00:47:03saying these things today. Over the years,
00:47:07he has always, whenever the time came,
00:47:10expressed his thoughts in an original way,
00:47:13and when he takes the microphone, he is a person
00:47:16who has the ability to make thousands of people listen
00:47:19breathlessly. Let me state this first. Whether
00:47:23this speech had a place or not
00:47:25during that wedding is another matter. On this
00:47:29matter, I, personally, if I were there
00:47:32yesterday, I wouldn't have spoken about it. Regarding
00:47:35Mr. Davutoğlu and the summoning for a statement,
00:47:38a person like Bülent Bey, who is truly
00:47:41experienced, whose word and conversation are trusted,
00:47:45would come to the Ankara Courthouse with the thought that this action
00:47:48is wrong, like Mr. Ali Babacan, like Mr. Mahmut
00:47:53Arıkan, like our MP friends who were there
00:47:56that day. Friends, this procedure is
00:48:00not right. You cannot restrict the right
00:48:03of a prime minister, a general chairman of a political
00:48:06party, to engage in politics with freedom of expression.
00:48:09It is wrong that he was summoned
00:48:12to give a statement on charges of insulting the president
00:48:16for a statement he made 5 years ago. I would have made a statement
00:48:19beforehand. There's no problem with that. But
00:48:23Mr. Arınç's preference is in this
00:48:26direction. Everyone knows that when you invite Mr. Arınç
00:48:29to a wedding and he takes the microphone, he gives long
00:48:33speeches, he gives advice, he gives a message
00:48:36to the people present there.
00:48:40Mr. Oktay Saral knows very well that if he invited
00:48:43him to his own wedding, he would act the same way.
00:48:47Therefore, I see these
00:48:50as somewhat excessive words. Because I also know
00:48:53Mr. Oktay Saral very well. Therefore,
00:48:56did you sense anything between the President
00:49:00and him, a past issue, or...? No,
00:49:03no, I don't think there's any problem between Oktay Saral
00:49:07and Bülent Bey. Oktay Bey
00:49:10was the mayor of Of in the past,
00:49:13and he was our friend who served as Trabzon
00:49:16MP with us in the 24th term.
00:49:20Currently, these advisors
00:49:24at the Presidential Complex, with the title
00:49:27of advisor, there are dozens of advisors who need to make themselves known,
00:49:30Gökmen Bey. From time to time, these friends come out
00:49:34and remind people of their presence by saying, "We are here." Well, now these people
00:49:38are advisors in the palace. When they make such speeches,
00:49:41for example, they criticize Arınç severely, they call those who gather
00:49:44around Arınç and listen to him "unconscious,"
00:49:48saying there's no one but a few unconscious people.
00:49:51Well,
00:49:54doesn't Erdoğan say anything to them in the palace? Is Oktay Bey speaking or
00:49:57is he being made to speak? I mean, I believe Oktay Bey
00:50:01took it upon
00:50:03himself to make this speech. Of course,
00:50:07our viewers said I called him
00:50:10a Trabzon MP based on his Trabzonli
00:50:13Ofslu identity. We worked together during the same period,
00:50:17but he was an Istanbul MP. Let me correct that.
00:50:21Also, although MPs know
00:50:24it very well, according to this system
00:50:28and this political parties law,
00:50:31they are appointed by leaders,
00:50:34but they insist that we say they are elected by the people.
00:50:38But I don't believe Mr. Oktay Saral
00:50:41made this speech due to any guidance.
00:50:45We cannot even approve of the
00:50:48sentences he used. Bülent Arınç
00:50:51Bey is one of the rare names
00:50:55that this country has produced. He has never been involved in anything,
00:50:58and he is a name who has always
00:51:01had the courage to express what he
00:51:04thinks and believes from the past to the present.
00:51:07Therefore, here, İdris Bey
00:51:10still hasn't explained parcel parcel
00:51:14and shared it with the public
00:51:17yet. He just says he will go
00:51:21if called for a statement. Now, as a
00:51:23result,
00:51:26the words Bülent Bey said are a denouncement.
00:51:30If the public prosecutors accept this denouncing
00:51:33statement and open an investigation file
00:51:37and invite him, rest assured
00:51:40he will fully tell everything he knows.
00:51:44I don't have any information about the
00:51:47extent of what Mr. Bülent Arınç knows on this matter.
00:51:51But I know very well
00:51:54that he has the courage to say all of it.
00:51:57Here, don't you think he doesn't
00:52:01owe an explanation to the public? Even if this mechanism doesn't work,
00:52:05don't you think he doesn't owe an explanation to the public?
00:52:08As a seasoned politician, I said earlier
00:52:12that when Mr. Davutoğlu was called to give a statement,
00:52:16it is not only Bülent Bey but everyone
00:52:19who believes in the democracy and rule of law
00:52:22of this country, and who believes
00:52:25that this country will continue as a democratic,
00:52:29secular, social state of law, that needs to show
00:52:33this solidarity.
00:53:05I believe it is a duty, but I am not in a position
00:53:08to tell him what he should do and
00:53:12how he should act as a founder
00:53:15of this party within party discipline.
00:53:18Currently, Mr. Bülent Arınç
00:53:22is still an active figure due to his
00:53:25position as a founder of the AK Party and
00:53:29also states that he belongs to the AK Party
00:53:32as a party member. Therefore,
00:53:36if you ask me what I think,
00:53:39I believe that if there is information,
00:53:41it should be shared with the public.
00:53:45Okay, Mr. Suat, what do you think?
00:53:47If you
00:53:49invited Arınç to your wedding, would you want him to speak
00:53:53like this? But if you invite Arınç, it means
00:53:57you're taking the risk of this speech. Yes,
00:54:00I've never agreed with almost
00:54:04any of the things Oktay Saral has shared.
00:54:08So, the language of Mr. Oktay
00:54:11Saral, a headline is coming from here, dear viewers.
00:54:14His choices
00:54:16and his speech and style
00:54:20are not something I follow and
00:54:24adopt. Besides the introduction,
00:54:28I have a tweet open in front of me now. He has a quote
00:54:31that says, "When he saw thousands of people together
00:54:35at the wedding, he took the saz
00:54:39and made the happiest day of the young
00:54:42couple a material for his political reckoning." Now,
00:54:44I agree with your observation from the outside, yes,
00:54:48I think that's how it is,
00:54:50but since it was Mr. Davutoğlu,
00:54:54the former Prime Minister, who invited Mr. Bülent
00:54:58Arınç there, and knowing Arınç's
00:55:01potential, he seems to have given the
00:55:05microphone to Mr. Bülent Arınç, putting the young couple at risk.
00:55:08The second part is that turning
00:55:11a wedding ceremony into a political platform
00:55:15is neither compatible with courtesy nor statesmanship.
00:55:18Now, as İdris Bey said, it is not
00:55:21for us to discuss statesmanship, but you said,
00:55:25"If it were your wedding ceremony,
00:55:29I would find it rude." I would also
00:55:32find it rude. Continually
00:55:35belittling a public prosecutor rudely
00:55:37and referring to the "we will see
00:55:41beautiful days, children" part was also very
00:55:44interesting to me. I listened to the speech
00:55:48several times to see if it came
00:55:51out of his mouth that way. Mr. Arınç
00:55:55then talked about steering the engines into the blue.
00:55:57This is entirely a song used
00:56:01in the rallies of the left wing,
00:56:05the new party, the Republican People's Party, and therefore
00:56:08it's Nazım's poem. So
00:56:12the mayor who officiated the wedding
00:56:15had to remind him that
00:56:18"we believe we have seen beautiful days."
00:56:22Does the mayor mean we have seen it?
00:56:25Yes, he said, "I believe we have seen
00:56:29beautiful days." So that departure
00:56:33was also very interesting. Wasn't it Ergün Bey?
00:56:36He is not a person known for polemics.
00:56:39And then Mr. Arınç said
00:56:43about knowing where and when to speak.
00:56:47Now, this is not something
00:56:50we can decide for the former Speaker of the Parliament.
00:56:54Of course, after so much experience,
00:56:57he knows where to speak. He decides for himself.
00:57:01He decides for himself. Bravo. Therefore,
00:57:04Mr. Arınç wanted to send a message by saying
00:57:08this there. He especially wanted
00:57:11to do this. There is also support for Mr. Davutoğlu.
00:57:15There is also a concern to convey messages to Mr. Melih Gökçek.
00:57:18Do you think there is support for Gökçek in Oktay Saral's message?
00:57:22No, no, no, not directly, but do you feel a supportive
00:57:26attitude in Arınç's message?
00:57:30Of course, I'm telling you this because
00:57:32he doesn't directly defend Gökçe here.
00:57:36There is indeed indirect support, but I think
00:57:39it's more personal, as İdris Bey said.
00:57:43I don't think there was an intention like, "Write a message
00:57:46from the palace, let's give everyone a hard time."
00:57:55you asked İdris Bey, "While all these things
00:57:58are being discussed, the public expects
00:58:01Mr. Arınç to support Davutoğlu and
00:58:04criticize Melih Gökçek, but they don't expect
00:58:08this criticism." For years,
00:58:10the owner of the phrase
00:58:13"parcel parcel" which is the main
00:58:16source of a book, that is, the one
00:58:20who gave the book its name, Mr. Arınç,
00:58:24why, listen,
00:58:26why, is the time for
00:58:30this never coming? Or why is there a condition
00:58:34that "if the prosecutor
00:58:36calls me"? How can this be?
00:58:40What is the reason for us to wait
00:58:44for this condition to be met? Shouldn't he also
00:58:47protest why no prosecutor has called him on this matter for years?
00:58:51Why isn't the judiciary taking action? Because, dear viewers,
00:58:55Gökçek went to give a statement, but it was not about the claims
00:58:59Arınç made. Mr. Gökmen also made this distinction,
00:59:02dear Gökmen, he said
00:59:06that if he is called for
00:59:09the past, he will not hesitate to tell everything
00:59:13he knows about the past, not just about the current
00:59:16issue. So why does Mr. Arınç
00:59:19insist on a prosecutor calling him? All the public is currently
00:59:22wondering what Mr. Arınç knows about Mr. Melih Gökçek,
00:59:26and this is completely about corruption
00:59:30or allegations of corruption. Therefore,
00:59:33here, what Mr. Arınç should do is not
00:59:35to address a crowd at a wedding,
00:59:39but rather, as a former Speaker
00:59:41of the Parliament, to quickly and
00:59:45urgently share what he knows with the public.
00:59:49Okay, Professor Serhan, what do you say? Since we can't talk about politics,
00:59:52we are actually talking about the implicit
00:59:55messages of those in power
00:59:57to each other. But I think
01:00:01there's only one thing worth noting here,
01:00:04which is that a former prime minister,
01:00:07the chairman of a party, is called to give
01:00:10a statement due to political
01:00:12statements. We see beyond that.
01:00:16Mayors are in prison today. The main opposition
01:00:19party was actually divided
01:00:22by a judicial operation, and another new party
01:00:26was formed. So, since politics cannot
01:00:29be done in the country, we are constantly trying
01:00:33to perceive a message through implicit messages,
01:00:36as Professor Öner said. Today, access
01:00:39to the social media accounts of many
01:00:42journalists
01:00:43or activists
01:00:47has been blocked. We cannot talk
01:00:51about people who bring politics to the agenda,
01:00:53make news about them, and discuss
01:00:57them. We see this very clearly here.
01:01:01There is Fırat Fıstık, Özlem Akarsu Çelik. We can't
01:01:04even discuss them, because they want to shift
01:01:08the ground there. Yes, access was blocked to the Evrensel
01:01:12newspaper's Twitter account, then Amnesty
01:01:14organization, Amnesty Turkey?
01:01:18Before that, Sol newspaper also had it blocked
01:01:22before Evrensel. Our colleague Özlem Akarsu
01:01:25Çelik had her account blocked. Peace academics,
01:01:28then İrem Afşin, Barbaros Altuğ,
01:01:31and Hak İnisiyatifi
01:01:34on kıvılcım gen Fırat Fıstık,
01:01:38MLSA Turkey, the ones who follow
01:01:42journalist trials, Belit
01:01:44Özyükan, I mean Özyükan Belit Ayp Buğdaycı.
01:01:48Justice, socialism,
01:01:50Retro Ç 871. I can't say their
01:01:54pseudonyms here. Umut Sendikası, Kadir Dil, Benim
01:01:58Benkardi, Love your of Moon, Emrah the
01:02:01Politic. I mean, this is available on the internet,
01:02:05dear viewers, you can access these accounts
01:02:09that have been blocked. What is this? Look at it, bro.
01:02:13So Twitter accepts every request, right, Professor Serhan?
01:02:16But every time, our political
01:02:20sphere, politics is not just
01:02:23parties talking and arguing, or MPs talking.
01:02:27We've come to this recently. Rights, labor issues.
01:02:41The voice is being cut. Isn't the same being done
01:02:45to Ekrem İmamoğlu? I mean, Ekrem İmamoğlu's
01:02:48image, voice, every area where he
01:02:52could address the public has been slowly erased.
01:02:56Let's think from the top, the opposition's presidential
01:02:59candidate, the family solidarity network. This is not new,
01:03:02actually, there are constantly
01:03:05pressures on journalists and civil society
01:03:09organizations. But at the point we have reached,
01:03:12the area for doing politics, speaking,
01:03:16expressing ideas has narrowed so much
01:03:19that what's left for us is
01:03:23"who said what to whom." But in essence,
01:03:26what's left for us is Arınç and the Prime Minister,
01:03:31there is an investigation into the Prime Minister.
01:03:34There could be more serious consequences, as I said,
01:03:38many politicians and journalists are in prison,
01:03:41and those who are not are being silenced.
01:03:44We know what is happening to the press and media.
01:03:48In such an environment, we are discussing what
01:03:51Arınç is. When the 7th part of the "Turkey Without Terrorism"
01:03:55report starts to be implemented, and this period,
01:03:59laws and regulations will probably pass through
01:04:03the parliament for a more democratic Turkey.
01:04:06Will Twitter accounts be opened then, professor?
01:04:10I wonder if there was such an article in the 7th part.
01:04:13They say "close-paracy". Yes,
01:04:17and also, I'm sorry, professor,
01:04:20the names given to these operations are interesting.
01:04:23For example, this wave of bans
01:04:26is being carried out with an operation
01:04:30called "My family is safe." Therefore,
01:04:32we need to underline how something is presented,
01:04:35and how it is desired to be perceived by society.
01:04:39Mr. Professor,
01:04:49talked about it a lot. I think it's not
01:04:53my wedding, nor yours. I mean,
01:04:56the addressee of these questions
01:05:00is actually Davutoğlu, but against Davutoğlu,
01:05:04in my opinion, a slightly
01:05:06advanced behavior,
01:05:10let's say, to put it mildly,
01:05:13was displayed, a message was tried
01:05:17to be conveyed. And if you notice,
01:05:19while he was going
01:05:23to give a statement at the prosecutor's office,
01:05:26all the opposition party leaders were there.
01:05:30They showed solidarity,
01:05:33and it seems they also gave
01:05:37the same support at the wedding.
01:05:40But Bülent Arınç
01:05:43was not there when he was giving
01:05:47a statement, because of his position.
01:05:50Because he was in the AK Party and so on.
01:05:54Therefore, perhaps he felt
01:05:57a deficiency there and expressed
01:06:01his protest as someone
01:06:05from within the AK Party. I see it that way,
01:06:08and I am not the one to evaluate it.
01:06:12If it were my wedding, I would evaluate
01:06:15it differently, of course. But
01:06:18he has his addressees there. Isn't he?
01:06:22I mean, if it were my children's wedding, I mean,
01:06:25what does it mean?
01:06:27I mean, if I were the host,
01:06:31I wouldn't go after it. But Oktay
01:06:34Bey's thing is also an unnecessary
01:06:38message, I think. You said,
01:06:41"Is he protecting someone here?"
01:06:45I still don't understand who he's protecting from that
01:06:49message. It's also unnecessary, especially
01:06:53the first part. But I am closer
01:06:56to the point that İdris Bey expressed.
01:07:19Article 299, which is the crime
01:07:22of insulting the President, was also in the old
01:07:26Turkish Penal Code number 765, but in its
01:07:29current form, it entered into force on June
01:07:321, 2005. Yes,
01:07:36when the crime of insulting the President was regulated
01:07:39on June 1, 2005, the President was neutral.
01:07:42He was not a member of any political party.
01:07:46But later, an amendment was made to Article 101 of the Constitution,
01:07:50and the phrase "sever ties with his party"
01:07:53was removed. After the phrase "sever ties
01:07:56with his party" was removed, there was
01:08:00no indication that he would become the chairman of his party.
01:08:04At that time, when that constitutional
01:08:07amendment was made, it was not thought
01:08:09that a president would become
01:08:12the chairman of his party. The type of crime
01:08:16should be evaluated differently in this respect.
01:08:19Currently, the partisan president
01:08:23has two separate hats: a party leader hat
01:08:26and a presidential hat. While he says everything
01:08:30to the leaders of the opposition parties, it should
01:08:34not be forgotten that he will also
01:08:37be answered for the words he says to the people
01:08:40he addresses as the leader of the ruling party.
01:08:44Nobody says these sentences with the
01:08:48intention of insulting the President, but when the
01:08:51identity of the party leader also merges
01:08:54with the same name, such accidents
01:08:57happen. For this reason, Article 299
01:10:50wakes up. We continue where we left off
01:10:54in the parenthesis on Halk TV screens.
01:10:57We are taking the pulse of politics. As you know,
01:11:01especially in recent days, the most talked about topic,
01:11:04especially in the ruling party, is when
01:11:07the elections will be. Early elections are being
01:11:10discussed, snap elections are being discussed. And calls for
01:11:14elections from the opposition are continuing.
01:11:18For example, Özgür Özel reiterates his call
01:11:21for elections every time. In the ruling party, whatever scenario
01:11:25is being discussed, President Erdoğan's
01:11:28candidacy is also on the table. Now, Ali Mahir Başarır
01:11:32evaluated all these issues on Deniz Bayramoğlu's
01:11:35"Gün Doğarken" program on Halk TV screens
01:11:38this morning. He said early
01:11:41elections are a necessity in Turkey.
01:11:56data, economic data, money allocated to interest,
01:12:00people's situation, justice situation,
01:12:03democracy situation, elections are a necessity
01:12:07in Turkey, so I think there will be an early election,
01:12:10because things are
01:12:36getting worse every day. Whether Erdoğan will be
01:12:39a candidate again is
01:12:42also a matter of debate. "May your unity
01:12:45and solidarity be perpetual, and may
01:12:49Allah grant us many
01:12:51more successes in this unity."
01:12:55Lastly, AKP Election Affairs President Alihsan
01:12:58Yavuz had proposed a formula regarding
01:13:02President Erdoğan's re-candidacy. Yavuz had
01:13:05said that the Parliament's decision to renew
01:13:09the elections a week earlier would be sufficient for Erdoğan's
01:13:12candidacy. Başarır also reacted to Yavuz's words,
01:13:16saying, "This would overturn the constitution."
01:13:19They say April or May, or they say a week.
01:13:23This is not going to happen. They say, "What will we do for him
01:13:27to be a candidate for the third time?" We will hold the election
01:13:30three days, four days, a week earlier. This is
01:13:34overturning the constitution. The new Party Leader
01:13:38Özgür Özel had recently
01:13:41given the early election message
01:13:45at the Üsküdar rally. Özel shared a part
01:13:48of his speech at the rally as a video
01:13:51on his social media account. "Now the
01:13:55lines are drawn. The election will be between
01:13:58Democrats and Autocrats.
01:14:02It will be between the Turkey Alliance
01:14:04and the Coup Alliance.
01:14:08Reactionaries and coup plotters are
01:14:11on the side of the autocrats."
01:14:13Özel, who said the game is broken,
01:14:16also included the
01:14:18words, "There is torment
01:14:20in separation, and mercy in unity,"
01:14:24which he used after Mansur Yavaş.
01:14:27"The game is broken. I want to give
01:14:30good news to those listening all over Turkey
01:14:33now: it's time for all democrats
01:14:37to unite. There is torment in separation,
01:14:41and mercy in unity." Now, of course,
01:14:44speaking of elections, the presidential candidate
01:14:47of the opposition, formerly known as,
01:14:51and now as the new party, is Ekrem İmamoğlu,
01:14:55the Mayor of Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality. He is also
01:14:58a presidential candidate. But after he became
01:15:02a presidential candidate, as you know,
01:15:05he faced a legal process full of numerous
01:15:09lawsuits, and that process continues.
01:15:12He said his life is being squeezed
01:15:16between the courthouse and prison.
01:15:19Last week, what did we discuss?
01:15:22We discussed the lawsuit related to the Tuzla Mayor.
01:15:39He made a statement about this issue,
01:15:42calling it the Tuzla scandal. Now, we are talking about
01:15:46a case where Ekrem İmamoğlu
01:15:49was acquitted twice before. After two acquittals,
01:15:52he was re-tried, and both the venue
01:15:56and the judge changed. What was the result?
01:16:00He was sentenced to two years and one
01:16:03month in prison. If this is also
01:16:07upheld by the Court of Appeals, he may also face a political ban.
01:16:10The lawyers of İmamoğlu will appeal the decision.
01:16:14If the appeal is approved, the lawyers will go to the Court of Cassation.
01:16:17We are facing bullying, but I want you to know
01:16:21that I will not give up. A part of Ekrem İmamoğlu's
01:16:25defense in the case I am the subject of 13 separate lawsuits.
01:16:2812 of them are criminal cases, and one
01:16:32is an administrative court case. İmamoğlu reacted to the sentence from the
01:16:35courtroom, saying, "No court will make a decision on my behalf."
01:16:39He then made a statement on his social media account.
01:16:43Now, please put yourself in my shoes.
01:16:46There is a case in which you were acquitted.
01:16:49You are brought before the judge again in this case due to
01:16:52judicial and political games.
01:16:55Because the case was overturned because no statement was taken, it is a procedural,
01:16:59not a substantive issue. At this time, the judge who acquitted is immediately replaced.
01:17:02The newly appointed judge disregards the acquittal and gives
01:17:06a prison sentence of more than two years so that a political ban also comes.
01:17:10This is not a coincidence. My life
01:17:13is being squeezed between the corridors of the courthouse and the prison,
01:17:16and there it is desired to be spent with psychological
01:17:20torture.
01:17:25Arınç confronted the Palace.
01:17:27The Palace sided with Gökçek. Bülent Arınç's series of criticisms began
01:17:31when Melih Gökçek chewed gum on his way to the courthouse
01:17:35at the wedding he attended, which was Ahmet Davutoğlu's son's wedding, if I remember
01:17:39correctly. Melih Gökçek's answer
01:17:42was not delayed. He addressed his comrades
01:17:45and said, "See well who is siding with whom."
01:17:49This call was not left unanswered
01:17:52by the Palace. The President's chief advisor.
01:18:18Mr. Arınç, the wedding podium is not a political arena. Being a statesman
01:18:21is not about speaking at every podium you find, but knowing
01:18:25where, when, and how much to speak. After Bülent Arınç's
01:18:28statements, Melih Gökçek addressed the government
01:18:32as "my comrades." He said, "Everyone should see well
01:18:35who is siding with whom." Gökçek's call was heard
01:18:39from the Palace. President's Chief Advisor Oktay Saral
01:18:42made a harsh social media post about Bülent Arınç's words.
01:18:46You're attacking me. On one day or
01:18:49the day before, another politician
01:18:52stated that he came by invitation. Chewing gum
01:18:56with a popping sound,
01:19:00from his eyes.
01:19:05And I watched with great shame.
01:19:17He can't find anyone but an unconscious person.
01:19:20Seeing thousands of people together at the wedding, he picked up his saz and made
01:19:23the happiest day of the young couple a tool for his political
01:19:26showdowns. Turning a wedding ceremony into a political
01:19:30podium is neither compatible with etiquette nor with statesmanship.
01:19:34He went at the invitation of a prosecutor. He gave
01:19:38answers to the questions asked. He said, "I
01:19:40always stand behind the ideas
01:19:42I express. I am a politician.
01:19:46A politician criticizes. I use my right to criticize
01:19:50everywhere." This is a noble act. Bülent
01:19:53Arınç's reaction to Ahmet Davutoğlu being called to testify for insulting
01:19:56the President was to criticize
01:19:59the prosecutor. Saral commented on Arınç's words
01:20:03as "expressions that contemptuously belittle the Public Prosecutor."
01:20:06He also used the expressions, "Arınç clearly reveals
01:20:09the pitiful state he is in."
01:20:12Oktay Saral's criticism was not
01:20:16limited to this. The wedding of Ahmet
01:20:18Davutoğlu's son was performed by the AK Party Fatih
01:20:22Mayor Ergün Turan. The dialogue between Arınç and Turan
01:20:26during the wedding attracted attention. Oktay Saral supported
01:20:29Ergün Turan. He said, "He has shown the necessary measure."
01:20:32We will see beautiful days, children.
01:20:35Sunny beautiful days.
01:20:50Dear viewers, actually, on September 1st, we discussed this issue with you
01:20:54a little bit. What was it? The new regulations
01:20:58introduced by the CMB for funds,
01:21:01free funds, and these regulations literally created an earthquake
01:21:04effect in the fund market. We talked about it over the weekend.
01:21:08It was initially claimed that Muhammet Yarız, the chairman of the portfolio management board and one of the major
01:21:12shareholders of Katılım Ev, fled abroad. He denied these claims,
01:21:15and at the same time, Serdar Turhan, the founding partner
01:21:19of Katılım Ev, was banned from leaving the country.
01:21:22But without sticking to names and companies,
01:21:26was this regulation implemented by the CMB too late? Or what did it
01:21:30bring along that these things are happening? And will we see more of these? We will
01:21:34talk about these. We have our guest, Professor Doctor Soner Gökten, with us. Welcome.
01:21:37Hello, Gizem Hanım, good
01:21:41broadcast. Thank you, sir. Can we say that the CMB
01:21:45has put a brake on share sales through the back door to bosses
01:21:48and major shareholders? What did this regulation bring about
01:21:52that the events of the weekend happened? And most
01:21:54importantly, was this regulation, that is,
01:21:58this regulation implemented by the CMB, actually
01:22:01aslında geç mi kalındı?
01:22:05I don't know how long it's been since our broadcast with you,
01:22:08but we talked about these things. Yes, well, at that time,
01:22:11there was no regulation, sir. There wasn't, but
01:22:14we knew what would happen. In Turkey, let me tell you,
01:22:18Ms. Gizem, look, there are 7 million stock
01:22:21market investors. From 10,000 lira to hundreds of millions of lira.
01:22:25Its distribution is not very important.
01:22:28There is a 13 trillion fund market. These
01:22:32decrease and increase every day. So I'm
01:22:36telling you, those 30 million people, 30 million
01:22:40people are currently living and breathing the stock market. Look, for the first time,
01:22:45you are always in the midst of breaking news
01:22:48in your country,
01:22:50but right now, politics has taken a back seat for the first time, you know,
01:22:53Ms. Gizem? Look, nobody is talking about it or anything.
01:22:56Why, you ask? Because we are really
01:23:00going through historic days. History, now,
01:23:03I will tell our viewers two or three things, if you allow me.
01:23:06And how did this happen? I will get to that.
01:23:10We have a concept called "related party" here.
01:23:13I won't be too technical. Let me explain "related party" like this:
01:23:16I told you one and a half to two years ago.
01:23:20Two people said this in Turkey, the first one, Sait
01:23:24Ürünü, and the other one, Soner Gökten. We both paid the price. I won't say
01:23:27how Sait abi paid the price, but my X account was closed.
01:23:31By whom? By the Bakırköy Public
01:23:34Prosecutor's Office. The news came out yesterday.
01:23:37After the statement, it was closed by 3 gendarmerie
01:23:41personnel. What did I say there? I didn't say anything. I predicted
01:23:44these days, and I didn't even give a name.
01:23:47Look, there is one article. Our law considers
01:23:51a fund as a legal entity. This means,
01:23:54I'm trying to explain it very simply, because the financial literacy
01:23:58capacity of our valuable viewers is low. Let's underline this,
01:24:02it's low. In fact, not just for our
01:24:05viewers, look, I'm telling you,
01:24:08it's also low for financial professionals. Now, our brother
01:24:11Muhammed, about whom allegations have been made, his name in the market
01:24:15is Mami. He is a 28-year-old brother. He received a penalty
01:24:18from the CMB in due time. I don't say anything about
01:24:22the claim that made this allegation. It doesn't concern me.
01:24:26But today, this
01:24:28matter cannot be personalized, meaning it cannot be blamed
01:24:31on individuals. The authority waited for a year
01:24:34and a half.
01:24:36Today, I saw a tweet series, an X
01:24:40series. It says, "10% daily, monthly is enough for me."
01:24:43Ms. Gizem, it says, "10% return is enough."
01:24:47Look, in financial theory, we call this
01:24:50behavioral distortion. That is,
01:24:53behaviors have been distorted. They consider 10%
01:24:56normal. You put money into a fund for 10% monthly.
01:25:00There is risk at number 7. There is nothing higher than that.
01:25:03What is higher than that, you ask? It's pressing 32
01:25:06in a casino. That's higher. And
01:25:1010% is reasonable, they say. Such a behavioral distortion
01:25:14has occurred. The culprit for this, the culprit for this,
01:25:17excuse me, is the authority. The minister announced that
01:25:21there is a risk of fund manipulation in manipulations.
01:25:24The CMB waited for a year and a half. That's why
01:25:28the authority, look, if the authority had implemented Article 107,
01:25:31given a penalty, it would have been over. There is no need to give a penalty.
01:25:34When you reach a certain point, you call them, you say,
01:25:38"What are you doing, friend?" They are all our friends, acquaintances.
01:25:42We love them. But you say as an authority, you are a regulatory
01:25:45institution, brother. You say, "What are you doing? Fix this
01:25:49now." "Don't put us under suspicion." When did this
01:25:52regulation come, Ms. Gizem? It came when the "gavur"
01:25:55said it, when MSI said it. It said, "I will
01:25:59downgrade your stock market from emerging markets
01:26:03to frontier market." That's when these regulations came. How long did it take?
01:26:06One and a half years. How did we get to this? I won't
01:26:09elaborate too much. How did we get here? There is an article,
01:26:13"You cannot take a position where you are a related party.
01:26:17If you do, I will penalize you." So,
01:26:20"I am Soner, I have a company, Soner Inc.
01:26:23I cannot buy and sell Soner Inc.'s shares as I please,
01:26:27I cannot accumulate shares. Why? Because I
01:26:31know the information about my company, right?
01:26:33I know the information. But the article says that
01:26:37funds are a separate legal entity. What do I
01:26:41do, Ms. Gizem? I go to a fund and a year and a half ago,
01:26:45I set up a closed fund. Closed means that
01:26:48it doesn't sell fund shares to anyone.
01:26:51Allegedly, there's a citizen who presses a button,
01:26:54the fund manager. Oh, so the fund manager
01:26:58is Warren Buffett. Okay, this time,
01:27:02when this fund buys these shares,
01:27:05it says, "No, Soner didn't buy this." You can do it.
01:27:09It goes to astronomical places. So I said, "Look, if you don't
01:27:13stop this, everyone will start doing it."
01:27:16That is, the price on the stock market
01:27:20is detached from reality. Then I raise it,
01:27:23I raise it, I raise it. We're talking about the compass, right?
01:27:27There are others too. Look, the problem here is not the compass.
01:27:30The problem here is not the others. The problem here
01:27:34is that the authority waited for a year and a half.
01:27:37It waited for a year and a half. Gizem, why did Soner Bey
01:27:40wait? I have
01:27:42no idea.
01:27:44I have no idea. Look, what am I telling you? My X account was closed because
01:27:48I said this.
01:27:50Three gendarmerie intelligence personnel were assigned
01:27:54to investigate whether there was a criminal
01:27:58element in the post. Is it gendarmerie
01:28:01intelligence personnel? Is it Professor Soner Gökten?
01:28:05Do they know the capital market? I don't
01:28:08know. Look, I
01:28:11don't know. By the way, yesterday,
01:28:15the Bakırköy Chief Public Prosecutor's Office published it. Many
01:28:18important national
01:28:21channels ran wrong headlines. It said, the headline is this: Look at financial
01:28:25literacy. I will talk about legal ignorance.
01:28:28It said that the Bakırköy Public Prosecutor's Office
01:28:32has started to monitor manipulations.
01:28:35Open and read the CMB law, reporters, valuable
01:28:39managers of economy channels, valuable
01:28:42people. The CMB law states that
01:28:46in any crime related to the capital market,
01:28:49it is obligatory for the CMB
01:28:52to apply to the prosecutor's office.
01:28:55Otherwise, the prosecutor's office cannot make arrests
01:28:59related to capital market crimes.
01:29:04The news that came from the Bakırköy Public Prosecutor's Office today, what did
01:29:07it say? What is it investigating? It is investigating
01:29:09the press crimes bureau. Look,
01:29:13the press crimes bureau. Because the CMB,
01:29:17prosecutors, this is a technical job, Ms. Gizem. We talk about
01:29:20merit, right? Merit, knowledge, experience, right?
01:29:23You need to know the capital
01:29:26market. Press crimes, deceiving the public. I'm not
01:29:30getting involved in that. There are two things: either the CMB
01:29:34applied and made arrests, which we understand
01:29:37is not the case, because where is the investigation being conducted?
01:29:41The press crimes bureau. Our journalists,
01:29:45in the guise of, in the guise of economic reporters,
01:29:48pretending to know economics, there was a woman
01:29:52who was formerly a party general vice-chairman, a former party MP,
01:29:55explaining "shaking out." And I said in a broadcast, even in your broadcast,
01:29:59years ago, "Madam, what do you know about shaking out? What do you know
01:30:02about the stock market? Is this your
01:30:05place?" I said, "Is this your place?"
01:30:08She was left like this. Because a journalist looks
01:30:12for clicks, the other one looks for something else.
01:30:16Let's talk about the facts. Soner Bey, speaking of facts,
01:30:19I would like to clarify this point. As we said, I don't want to
01:30:22dwell on a specific company or person, but Trasula
01:30:26announced that it bought after the new regulation. However, this has not
01:30:29been officially completed yet, because this transaction is subject
01:30:32to CMB approval. It has not been approved yet. Is it possible
01:30:36that it will not be approved? And most importantly, will
01:30:39this activity also occur in other portfolio companies and funds?
01:30:43It is subject to the approval of not only the CMB but also the BRSA.
01:30:46Look, one and a half years ago, I
01:30:50was the first to criticize
01:30:54Tera, saying this is not how things should be. But do you know what happened to Tera,
01:30:57Ms. Gizem? I know your education
01:31:00is very good.
01:31:02It happened. Its Turkish equivalent is not to go bankrupt.
01:31:06It became too big to fail. Now everyone is in the same boat,
01:31:10and today, Tera, I'm telling you openly, Tera
01:31:13also has other rumors, from here, I don't
01:31:16want to speculate. Yes, I don't
01:31:19want to, but Tera has now put its hand in the fire.
01:31:23However, the reverse repo transactions, we as experts
01:31:25see them as such. I don't want to say this here,
01:31:29but today Tera... "By doing this, it has
01:31:32prevented a disaster. That is, Emre
01:31:36and Emir have prevented a disaster.
01:31:38Look, let me underline this. Today we are in the same
01:31:42boat. Today we must sit down and think about how
01:31:45to save this business. Hmm hmm. I'm not saying
01:31:48anything to small investors. Because this has turned into
01:31:52a football club. If I were to give you one percent daily
01:31:56return in a virtual computer world, wouldn't
01:32:00you love me, Ms. Gizem?" "
01:32:03"I mean, when I say wouldn't you love me, wouldn't you
01:32:06be interested as a fan? You would. It's necessary
01:32:10to overcome these things and save the current situation. And at the point
01:32:13we have reached today, look, honestly,
01:32:17in the capital markets, I'm telling you openly,
01:32:21no one should be offended, there are very good
01:32:25people in this country.
01:32:27If you exclude these people
01:32:30and put people who don't understand the capital
01:32:33market in this position, this is the point
01:32:36you will reach. So you are talking about the CMB
01:32:39itself. Let me tell you something, it's clearly stated in the law.
01:32:43Yes. Is it legal? It's legal. Actually,
01:32:47the transactions made are legal. That is, the closed fund
01:32:50established, its closed circuit nature and all details are legal.
01:32:53But the part about manipulating the prices afterwards is illegal.
01:32:57No, the law allows for this too. It says you can do it if you are a fund.
01:33:00We call this financial engineering.
01:33:04It says you can do it.
01:33:07This loophole exists. Financial engineering. This happened
01:33:11in America too, and elsewhere too. What needs to be done
01:33:15about this loophole if
01:33:17you wait a year and a half
01:33:20and then come up with a completely nonsensical
01:33:23regulation, then this is what
01:33:26happens. Did the infidel have to say it? Did MSI
01:33:30have to say it? This is, of course, very... I don't want
01:33:33to talk technically too much, but today we are in
01:33:36the same boat. Look, today we are in the same boat. If you allow me,
01:33:40Ms. Gizem, I also want to touch upon
01:33:43the speculations, that
01:33:45he fled abroad. I would be happy if we briefly
01:33:49touched on this, Soner Bey. I will keep it brief.
01:33:52Property rights are protected
01:33:55under the Central Securities Depository. None of the securities
01:33:57in that fund are going anywhere
01:34:01just by waving their hand, okay? They are not going anywhere.
01:34:05And their price is falling because
01:34:08it has to fall. No one should blame
01:34:12those who invested in this. They have no right
01:34:15to say anything today.
01:34:18Look, they have no right today. Nor do they have
01:34:22the right to ask those who won, who left the ship early,
01:34:26why they earned this money.
01:34:27yok,
01:34:30Because unfortunately, in our country,
01:34:33ethical values, authority
01:34:36oversight, and continuous institutional quality improvement
01:34:39processes do not work.
01:34:42It comes to a limit and then it ends. And what happened
01:34:45yesterday, look, I'm going to say something.
01:34:49The chairman of the board of directors of some place
01:34:53fled. These are very dangerous,
01:34:55wrong statements that can completely manipulate
01:34:59those who lack financial literacy and system
01:35:02knowledge. I'm addressing the journalists
01:35:05who write without understanding. You don't understand
01:35:08anything. If that person, let's
01:35:12say, really fled, Ms. Gizem, well, I don't know.
01:35:15You cannot associate his flight with the fund.
01:35:19Because the property right of the fund is different,
01:35:22that is different. If a penalty is to be given for this,
01:35:26the CMB will enforce Article 107 and give it. We are in
01:35:29a completely absurd period. I hope that sane,
01:35:33knowledgeable people will understand. The CMB and currently
01:35:36the BRSA have a very big job to do. Because look, there
01:35:40is a participation bank. There is a participation finance
01:35:44cycle. There are those who approve these.
01:35:48We are going through historic days, but I can say
01:35:51that we are all in the same boat now.
01:35:55I'm talking about a minimum of 30 million people, Ms. Gizem.
01:35:58A minimum of 30 million people. We are in the same
01:36:02boat. We have to speak very carefully. It ended a year
01:36:05and a half ago. You closed my X account, that's it.
01:36:08Today, criticizing, they are talking today,
01:36:12where were you a year and a half ago? You are speaking today.
01:36:15Where were you? I won't
01:36:17name names. This is
01:36:21like the murder of Kaşif Bey. Just as those who spoke
01:36:24then are hiding under the table today,
01:36:28those who didn't speak a year and a half ago are speaking today. Where were
01:36:31you, brother? Those days are over. We are in the same boat
01:36:35and we are in finance. Not just
01:36:38finance. We are in an existential
01:36:41crisis for the economy. Let's sit down and talk about this.
01:36:45I will ask you a question related to that as a final point, because
01:36:49everyone was wondering what would happen today when the markets
01:36:52opened. There was an anxious wait,
01:36:56frankly. As far as I can see, after the CMB's new
01:36:59regulation on calculating free float,
01:37:03the free float rates of 247 companies on Borsa İstanbul
01:37:06decreased in one day, while the rates of 343
01:37:10companies remained stable. The free
01:37:13float rate.
01:37:26Don't get stuck on it, there are others. Will we experience a domino effect
01:37:29in the future? Let's look at that if you like.
01:37:32The free float rate has dropped by about 3%, Ms. Gizem.
01:37:35In the financial community, not
01:37:39only in Turkey but also in the world, these people, excuse
01:37:42me, I apologize, are not stupid. So Warren
01:37:46Buffett is not a stupid person, and the people
01:37:49who do this on Wall Street are not stupid, okay?
01:37:5213, those who do this blindly,
01:37:56it dropped by 3%. In Turkey,
01:38:00how many of the funds that disclose
01:38:03their real ownership can we know? Here,
01:38:07we are winking at MSI. MSI said we are entering the technical field.
01:38:30to do this in the world. I will hide my name.
01:38:33Not even my soul will know that Soner bought it. People are not stupid.
01:38:37The authority, the authority immediately
01:38:40introduces regulations. Financial engineering
01:38:44immediately finds a solution against the authority. This has been
01:38:47going on since 1830. The question we need to ask
01:38:51is this: two questions. Two questions.
01:38:54Where were you a year and a half ago?
01:38:58We said it. Where were the others? Those who are speaking today
01:39:02are coming out, right? What price did they pay?
01:39:05Second, the second basic question: There are 10
01:39:09problematic assets in the market.
01:39:11And all of these 10 assets,
01:39:15all of these 10 assets in the fund,
01:39:18must be held at a certain value. What will we do with
01:39:21these 10 assets? We have two problems.
01:39:24But the problem has grown so much that
01:39:27MSI is issuing regulations so that it doesn't downgrade us to the Frontier market.
01:39:31They are coming out very badly, by the way.
01:39:35They are rule-based. There's no need for them to come out.
01:39:38I don't want to get too technical here. You abolished the free
01:39:41fund, which we call a hedging fund, a fund that needs protection.
01:39:45Why are you abolishing it?
01:39:48You're making it rule-bound. While doing this, I'm saying
01:39:52something to the commentators who think they are economists,
01:39:54to the journalists who think they know about finance
01:39:58and capital markets, to those who have no
01:40:01idea about money and who harm
01:40:04this country from abroad and elsewhere just
01:40:08for clicks: shut up.
01:40:11susun,
01:40:24to get clicks and PR, Ms. Gizem.
01:40:28Professor, I just want to reiterate this part, because
01:40:32I understand what you're saying, but
01:40:35when you answered the first question, you said
01:40:39it's not just about the compass, there are other players too. From
01:40:42that point, will we face things like what we experienced
01:40:46this past weekend in the coming days?
01:40:49Now, there are those who are hurt,
01:40:52those who acted ethically as they should,
01:40:56and are hurt. Who are they? I won't name
01:40:59names, but these are the ones who have been managing the fund
01:41:03as it should be for two years.
01:41:06Do you know what happens, Ms. Gizem?
01:41:10For example, you gave me 100 lira. I am a fund manager.
01:41:13I made you earn 70% annually.
01:41:16What kind of thing is this? Don't you think it's a good thing? I made you
01:41:19earn above inflation. You rested, you traveled, or
01:41:23you stayed at home and watched a movie.
01:41:26Behavioral? We're coming to finance. There's a Nobel prize for that, right?
01:41:30function is there, it's a very bad function, the real academician who is
01:41:34watching me, well, today someone has come out, uh,
01:41:38is he an academician or what, he's marketing his YouTube, ridiculous,
01:41:42I don't want to say it anymore, you
01:41:45can't put us in that situation, brother, you can't make such statements, anyway, I've
01:41:49passed that, behaviorally, 70%
01:41:52is not liked, Ms. Gizem,
01:41:56now you... You are a fund
01:41:59manager who has made 70% and they tell you, what did you do, brother,
01:42:0270%, why didn't you make 100%?
01:42:06How would
01:42:06you feel?
01:42:10I understand the point here, this is what we call behavioral finance, we have become
01:42:14a great laboratory, we have become a great laboratory,
01:42:17uh, let's see
01:42:21what happens, but let me tell you, we are not in the situation
01:42:24we were in a year and a half ago, hm hm, today there are
01:42:28to big to fail situations, I'm not saying this for those who invest
01:42:31there, I'm saying this for the survival of Turkey's financial and economic markets,
01:42:35today it's the exact opposite, we are in the same
01:42:38boat, it's necessary to protect that boat,
01:42:42it's necessary to be calm and prudent, thank
01:42:45you very much, Professor Sonar, for your
01:42:48participation, I also thank you, good broadcast, regards, thank you, same
01:42:52to you, sir, now we will
01:42:56turn to Syria and... "We will say fuel prices,
01:42:59gasoline price hikes in Syria, fuel price hikes are being
01:43:03protested, but it has spread to 7-8 provinces,
01:43:06uh, huge price hikes were made for gasoline
01:43:09and diesel there, the Syrian people, who know
01:43:12very well that the fuel price hikes will spread to transportation,
01:43:16food and basic necessities in a short time, have literally
01:43:20lost their temper.
01:43:24The 40% hike in gasoline and diesel data confirming
01:43:27to the streets.
01:43:32Protests against the fuel price hike intensified in the north and
01:43:35east of the country. Demonstrations broke out in many
01:43:38cities from Raqqa to Deir ez-Zor, from Hasakah to Tabqa.
01:43:42In a short time, they spread
01:43:43throughout the country.
01:43:47In Syria, where a large part of the population currently lives in difficult economic
01:43:51conditions, protesters demanded the withdrawal of the price hikes
01:43:54and the resignation of the Minister of Energy. Public transport. Many
01:43:58drivers shut down their vehicles
01:44:00in protest.
01:44:10They tried to block passage by setting tires on fire, and
01:44:13in some places where transportation came to a standstill,
01:44:17clashes and even conflicts
01:44:20occurred
01:44:21between protesters and security
01:44:26forces. The Damascus administration tried to calm the situation
01:44:30by arguing that the price hikes were temporary. The Ministry
01:44:34of Energy cited tensions in the Middle East causing fuel
01:44:37prices to rise and supply to become more difficult.
01:44:41It was stated that the refinery in Baniyas being shut down for two months
01:44:44caused a decrease in fuel supply to the domestic market
01:44:48and additional imports. Syria imports approximately 60%
01:44:52of the fuel consumed in the country. This is because
01:44:55due to deficiencies in the infrastructure, not all of the crude oil extracted
01:44:59in the country
01:44:59can be converted into
01:45:03products. Now, the war in the Middle East, America attacking Iran,
01:45:07the crisis in Hormuz, and even the Houthis seizing
01:45:11the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, oil prices
01:45:14continue to climb. Here, too, a price hike is expected
01:45:18for diesel as of tomorrow night, and it seems
01:45:21it will reach the 100 lira band. Here are
01:45:23these price hikes in fuel,
01:45:26what happened in Syria has appeared on your screens. We will talk about this. At the same
01:45:30time, Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan will also have contacts in Syria there.
01:45:34So what is the issue and what caused all these, that is,
01:45:37what caused the fuel and oil prices.
01:45:45Donald Trump announced the date the war
01:45:48will end, we will evaluate these, we are
01:45:51returning to America, our representative Serra Karaçan is with us. Welcome,
01:45:54Serra, good broadcast Gizem, thank you, if you like, let's start
01:45:58with Syria. Yes, actually, we just watched
01:46:02the protest news, what happened after is an important
01:46:06test for the new government, for the interim government, and
01:46:09it's an internal test, not a test from the outside
01:46:13world, from external actors, these are the biggest protests
01:46:16since the transition period, and of course, it's very clear
01:46:20that there's a cost of living shock linked to the impact of the regional
01:46:23war on oil prices,
01:46:26but in Syria, 109% of the population is already
01:46:30struggling with poverty, below the poverty line,
01:46:33so the country has been hit twice
01:46:36as hard by this fuel cost.
01:46:40We are looking at Israeli news sources, of course, in any development related
01:46:44to Syria, especially when there are things that can be
01:46:47provoked, like protests, even though there was no such
01:46:51like to add a note uh, in the news there,
01:46:54uh, in 2025, uh, based on the
01:46:58i24 channel, reported that
01:47:01bullets were fired at protesters, they call them live bullets, which
01:47:04means real bullets, this, uh, news came that the
01:47:08internal security forces, forces affiliated with the Ministry of
01:47:12Interior, opened fire, but on the other hand, there is
01:47:15SDG integration, we were
01:47:29it appears that this was not mentioned,
01:47:32there is a source inconsistency, uh, of course,
01:47:35in the developments in Syria, the fact that Israel
01:47:39needs to be watched is also a reality. As you said, Fidan made a two-day visit
01:47:42to Damascus, he met with the Foreign
01:47:46Minister, he met with President Evşara, and he also met with the Minister of Interior,
01:47:50which is quite important. Besides this, of course, we see
01:47:54that he also met with names such as the Aleppo Member of Parliament
01:47:57of the Syrian People's Assembly, the President of the Turkmen Assembly,
01:48:01and representatives of different groups. Uh, the most important topic,
01:48:05in my opinion, during this visit, was President Erdoğan's
01:48:08upcoming visit to Syria in the near
01:48:11future, which will be the first time. Fidan
01:48:15said that the decisions taken through
01:48:18the high joint committee would be reviewed. Last week,
01:48:21you know, there were discussions in Syria about French
01:48:24being an optional language, and how Turkish would be included
01:48:28in schools. Hakan Fidan had clarified these issues.
01:48:31He said that Turkish would also be an optional course. Of course,
01:48:35when we talk about the increase in fuel prices, let's turn
01:48:38to America, the effects of the regional war
01:48:49diesel, was asked to President Donald Trump on the plane
01:48:52yesterday while returning from Ireland. The question
01:48:55was whether the Russia-Ukraine war or the Iran war
01:48:59would end first. But
01:49:02Trump said, he said, regarding
01:49:05Russia, because we get most of our diesel from Russia,
01:49:09I asked Zelensky not to attack diesel
01:49:12facilities and refineries. He explained that diesel
01:49:16prices are rising due to the difficulty of leaving
01:49:18Russia. He said this is also a situation that harms
01:49:22the world. "He used the phrases, of course, you know,
01:49:26inflation during the Biden era was bad, it was
01:49:30really bad, he came with the promise to fix it, those who voted
01:49:34for him are now being tested with this,
01:49:38of course, we can say that it has globally affected
01:49:40both Syria and the world due to the war. I would
01:49:44I forgot for Syria,
01:49:47there were some incidents of violence
01:49:51against Druze, it was reflected in both UN reports and
01:49:54civil society organizations, after that, it is quite
01:49:57important to follow these
01:50:33statement on Friday, we talked about it on Saturday on Sınırsız,
01:50:37and now, of course, while returning from Ireland on the plane,
01:50:40Iran came back on the agenda in various ways, uh,
01:50:44but the most recent was his statement
01:51:03want to negotiate and they keep calling me. But
01:51:07he used the phrase "I won't say yes
01:51:10to an agreement I don't accept." Of course, he has been saying
01:51:13since day one that oil prices will drop when the war ends, but the war is not ending, it was said
01:51:17it would be a few weeks, it's been 6 months. While all this was being discussed,
01:51:20of course, oil prices were very high. On September
01:51:239, he similarly said the war would end
01:51:26right after the election, but
01:51:29there's something like this, negotiations have stopped,
01:51:33let's remember that, and he says they are calling me, but we see
01:51:37that there is no agreement very close right now. On the other
01:51:40hand, of course, we know that there would be some meetings
01:51:44of Gulf countries in Oman, and these have been postponed. There
01:51:47was a new tension with Saudi Arabia this weekend,
01:51:51uh, some facilities were closed there too, which
01:51:54affects oil. Uh, Iran,
01:51:57when we look at Iran's
01:51:59desperate message,
01:52:02we see Iran. Most recently, the President spoke at a summit
01:52:05in New Delhi, uh, and he said
01:52:08they would not bow to bullying, he said they would resist
01:52:12Israel and America. Both sides therefore continue
01:52:15to present a narrative of weakness
01:52:18that is opposite to each other. Tensions
01:52:22are still high regionally, meaning there are no
01:52:25Trump's optimistic predictions.
01:52:29Especially as you said, attacks on Saudi oil
01:52:32infrastructure, the Houthis' advance, we see that
01:52:35alternatives in maritime trade routes are also
01:52:39in trouble. Uh, that's why, uh, it is reported
01:52:41that President Trump is being tried
01:52:45to be persuaded to adopt a strategy
01:52:48that will prevent the war from escalating further. An alternative
01:52:53development path, Karataş, which Turkey is also a part of. It
01:52:56is very important for Syria's stability when an alternative
01:52:59is sought in Hormuz. Yesterday in Ireland, at the residence
01:53:03of the American Ambassador,
01:53:20phrase. With the Iran war, we always talk
01:53:23about how Iran was successful with its cheap unmanned aerial
01:53:27vehicles, and in return, America's expensive ammunition
01:53:30stocks are running out. He emphasized that cheaper
01:53:34alternatives are being sought for slower missiles,
01:53:38and he said that laser will be the technology of the future.
01:53:41You know, Turkey was negotiating for Patriots for
01:53:45air defense, but because this didn't happen, they bought S400s,
01:53:48but here too, new technologies are being discussed.
01:53:51Serra, we have 3 minutes. I actually
01:53:55wanted to talk about artificial intelligence too, can I quickly get
01:53:58that from you? Of course, uh, last week, you know,
01:54:02there was a resignation from Antropic due to concerns that artificial
01:54:05intelligence could take over humanity and get out of control,
01:54:09and it was emphasized that in a few
01:54:13cases where it was released for the development of artificial
01:54:16intelligence, it was involved in two separate hacks,
01:54:19therefore it couldn't be trusted. The CEO of Antropic also issued
01:54:35a new warning. A few weeks ago, he published an article. If China
01:54:38does not slow down, there is concern that they will fall
01:54:41behind in the competition. Trump was asked this on the plane yesterday,
01:54:45and he said he also uses artificial intelligence. When asked what
01:54:49functions he uses it for, he said you can do a lot
01:54:52with artificial intelligence, and he did not explain
01:54:56what he uses it for. Of course, perhaps his assistants
01:54:59use it. But the phrases "whoever wins
01:55:03in artificial intelligence will win the world" especially drew attention. Currently,
01:55:06the United States is trying to get ahead in artificial
01:55:10intelligence technology by taking some risks and
01:55:12postponing regulations
01:55:32American public's agenda. You know, previously, a technology
01:55:36company that had an artificial intelligence agreement with the
01:55:40Pentagon had refused to give all of its artificial
01:55:43intelligence capabilities to the Department of Defense,
01:55:48be misused in wartime situations. After this, they had declared
01:55:52that company a national security risk. Now, the company
01:55:56has been found right in court, of course, this decision can be overturned
01:55:59by the higher court, it's not final yet, but
01:56:03we can say that it affects all
01:56:13areas. Good broadcast, thank you, sir, now we briefly mentioned Russia-Ukraine, uh, more through
01:56:17fuel prices. Russia targeted railway infrastructure
01:56:20in its recent attacks on Ukraine, but who
01:56:24else was in that target? Some important European political
01:56:27officials and politicians
01:56:30who were visiting Ukraine were there, and it
01:56:33turned out that they narrowly
01:56:35escaped the attack.
01:56:41The Russian Ministry of Defense announced that they hit some
01:56:44railway lines and trains in their attacks
01:56:48on Ukraine over the weekend. The ministry claimed that these lines
01:56:51were used to transport military cargo from European
01:56:54countries.
01:56:58It was true that the wagons were going back and forth to Europe,
01:57:01but some of them did not contain cargo, but important
01:57:08European passengers. It was announced that Boris Johnson,
01:57:12former Prime Minister of the UK, and Carbilt passed through
01:57:15the same spot in another train 15 minutes before one
01:57:19of the trains was hit. It turned out that the duo, who attended
01:57:22a conference in Kyiv and were preparing to leave Ukraine, narrowly
01:57:26escaped the attack that took place just 800 meters from
01:57:28the Polish border.
01:57:46was at a train station nearby during
01:57:49the incident.
01:57:54On the other hand, Ukrainian officials announced that the
01:57:58passengers on the train whose locomotive was hit were evacuated
01:58:01when the Russian UAV was detected, and there were no deaths or injuries
01:58:08in the incident. Since the start of the Russian
01:58:11invasion in 2022, railways have become the main
01:58:15means of transportation for Ukraine due to the suspension
01:58:17of all air travel.
01:58:24Dear viewers, with this news, we have come to the end of our time,
01:58:27we are concluding. Hopefully, we will meet at the same time tomorrow.
01:58:31Eco Ünar will be with you for Halk Anahaber. Good evening.
01:58:48To make the unheard heard, to say the unsaid,
01:58:52to show the unseen.
01:59:20Every weekday morning from 7 to 10,
01:59:23while Turkey wakes up, we will
01:59:26be together in this studio.
01:59:48"Good morning, my dear Turkey, welcome, you bring honor, it's September
01:59:5215, 2026, Tuesday, you are
01:59:55on Halk TV screens, the clock shows 6, I am
01:59:59Gökhan Kayış, welcome to the hour where we will convey
02:00:02everything our esteemed news center has prepared,
02:00:05with its hot news,
02:00:25with Seferihisar, sir, I want to make a very quick entry, because
02:00:29there is hot information and hot images.
02:00:32In İzmir Menderes, you know, 47 names
02:00:35were detained in connection with a bribery
02:00:38operation. A detention warrant was issued for 48
02:00:42people in the bribery investigation carried out against the Seferihisar
02:00:46Municipality. In the operation conducted on Friday, September
02:00:4911, 47 people were detained, and
02:00:52it was reported that efforts to apprehend one person were ongoing,
02:00:56it was said that this person was abroad, if
02:00:59I remember correctly, all of those detained,
02:01:02after their procedures at the police station were completed, were transferred to the courthouse
02:01:06in the morning with extensive security measures. Now,
02:01:09after their interrogations at the prosecutor's
02:01:12office, these 47 names, the 47 detained names,
02:01:16you know, the mayor of Seferihisar also changed by proxy
02:01:20and went to the AK Party, here too, there was
02:01:24a serious debate about it, and today,
02:01:27for 47 names, uh,
02:01:29we will see if a request for arrest will be made
02:01:33after the prosecutor's interrogation for all of them or
02:01:36for certain names, that will be one of the topics we will
02:01:39report in our broadcasts in the coming
02:01:42hours, sir.
02:01:44efendim.
02:01:49Operations and hot topics, I guess we've gotten used to them, for a long
02:01:53time there have been operations against municipalities,
02:01:56against district municipalities, and Turkey is moving step
02:02:00by step towards the general election, and in people's minds,
02:02:03is Turkey still a democracy, authoritarian democracy, no election
02:02:07democracy and so on, many things are being talked about, but
02:02:11the emotions of a government that tries to convince
02:02:14even district municipalities and is so determined
02:02:17even for a district municipality with all the resources
02:02:21of the state, regarding the general elections, really
02:02:25confuses all of us. Let's quickly look at our headlines,
02:02:28my dear director will also send the link, what's on the agenda
02:02:32for Tuesday, September 15, 2026? We start with Nefes Newspaper,
02:02:35yesterday little first graders, hardworking second graders,
02:02:39an army of 17 million students and 1.2 million
02:02:43teachers, an education army, went out to their schools,
02:02:46some hungry,
02:03:04for 185 lira in line for a lifetime,
02:03:07it says. Now, this sentence
02:03:10is always used, "I would be a slave for 40 years
02:03:13to anyone who teaches me a letter," and from "I would be a slave for 40 years
02:03:17to anyone who teaches me a letter," to sweep... to the point of sweeping, sweeping, sweeping our protesting
02:03:21teachers, I don't even want to say it, but you know what
02:03:25is swept, sir. The question of how we got to this point
02:03:28is our headline in Nefes Newspaper, where we will discuss
02:03:31what opportunities the state offers to 100 thousand
02:03:35contracted teachers like an unregistered business.
02:03:38And there's this photo, my dear friend, I don't know if you
02:03:42can show it, maybe we'll show it when it's bigger, but look at this security measure
02:03:46being taken. "The lady is searching the
02:03:49student, meaning we are also exposing
02:03:52the children, we always have trouble finding the balance,
02:03:56sir. Let's say a gun was found in this bag,
02:03:59what will this private security guard do? I mean, it's been
02:04:02said 40 times that specialist sergeants are waiting for appointments,
02:04:35look into this, a terrible news from Sivas and
02:04:39Evrensel. The small news next to the headline
02:04:42is actually its complement, under the headline "Nobody is Safe,"
02:04:46today there are LGBTI operations. "operations against street gangs
02:04:50related to children, there is such a chaos
02:04:54around, but among
02:04:56this chaos, the banning
02:05:00of some internet addresses." If we had put a headline today, we could have said
02:05:04"banned," access ban on our newspaper's
02:05:06X account, why was Evrensel
02:05:10newspaper's social media account banned? Why
02:05:13was the social media account of Ali İsmail Korkmaz Foundation
02:05:16banned? Amidst many bans,
02:05:19we are facing a government that talks
02:05:22about democracy. Bülent Arıç has an answer. Here,
02:05:26there is a criticism directed at Oktay Saral,
02:05:30the palace and its entourage, and the people
02:05:33living in that region, the president doesn't say everything,
02:05:36some people say it on his behalf,
02:05:39the answer is here now. Bülent Arınç made a long statement
02:05:43and completed this statement by praising Recep
02:05:46Tayyip Erdoğan throughout, but the Oktay Saral
02:05:50criticism he made at the end is it directed at the Palace,
02:05:53or at Oktay Saral, or at the Presidency? We will
02:05:56discuss that all together. The footsteps of the local
02:06:00geliyor efendim, nereden anlıyorsunuz derseniz,
02:06:03cumhurbaşkanı TRT ekranlarında daha çok görünüyor
02:06:06sanki.
02:06:09Dünya diplomasisinin öncü lideri geliyor. Bakın işte
02:06:12verdiğimiz veriler, ekonomik veriler, faize ayrılan para,
02:06:15insanların durumu, adalet durumu,
02:06:18demokrasi durumu. Türkiye'de seçim zorunluluktur. O yüzden
02:06:49leader of world diplomacy is coming. Look, the data we
02:06:51and the timing, whether President Erdoğan will be a candidate
02:06:55again is also a
02:06:56matter of debate.
02:07:30he said it would be. They say April, May or a week, this is not something
02:07:34that will happen, he says, what will we do for him to be a candidate for the third
02:07:37time? They say we will hold the elections 3 days, 4 days, a week earlier.
02:07:41This is to overthrow the constitution. The new party leader Özgür
02:07:44Özel gave his early election message at the Üsküdar rally
02:07:48for the last time. Özel shared a part of his speech
02:07:51at the rally as a video on his social media account. The lines
02:07:55have now become clear, the election
02:07:58will be with democrats.
02:08:19The game is broken, all over Turkey,
02:08:23now I want to give the good news to the listeners,
02:08:25that it is time for
02:08:28all democrats
02:08:30to come together, there is torment in separation,
02:08:33and mercy
02:08:34in unity.
02:08:39I always thought that, sir, and when these news often came to the agenda
02:08:42in recent years, one gets
02:08:46this feeling, at least I do,
02:08:50of course, may Allah grant them all a very long life,
02:08:54we cannot say
02:08:56anything else, of course, Mr. Devlet Bahçeli and Mr. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan,
02:09:00may they have very long lives, may they have very healthy lives,
02:09:03with their grandchildren, their families, may they have a good life,
02:09:07a long life, but it's as if
02:09:10they are behaving as if if someone leaves that seat,
02:19:02party name has also become a problem," he said, and
02:19:06Mr. Murat Emir responded to this yesterday
02:19:09evening on Halk TV. It was Gökmen Bey's program, if I remember
02:19:12correctly. The new party faced a name similarity crisis
02:19:16before entering the congress process. The Chief Public Prosecutor's Office of the Supreme Court of Appeals
02:19:19sent a notification to the new party to change its name
02:19:23upon the application of the innovation party. While
02:19:27political backstage was buzzing,
02:51:31Everyone's dream is to own a house to call their own
02:51:34after working for years. In the past, it was possible
02:51:37to buy a house with a retirement bonus. However,
02:51:40this is becoming more difficult over the years. Today, a retirement
02:51:43bonus is not even enough for a house or a car. We asked the public,
02:51:46"What is the most you can buy with a retirement bonus today?
02:51:50What is it enough for?" "Nothing can be bought,
02:51:53nothing at all. Both the worker and the retiree are miserable.
02:51:57We cannot buy anything of high material value, you cannot buy real estate,
02:52:01you cannot buy a car. What could you do with it? Maybe make a down payment,
02:52:04or it could be for a small investment. Nothing else. Now, nothing can be bought,
02:52:08not even a car. I miss the old days. How good
02:52:12it was before! We can't even buy and eat two or three types
02:52:15of fruit. That's what I do. What can I do, my daughter? Manage.
02:52:19If you don't manage, we'll lose our way home, my daughter, what can we do?
02:52:23It's not enough for anything, it's not enough for anything.
02:52:26We are still working at this age. I collect paper, I collect things
02:52:30from markets. You used to buy a house, you used to buy a car.
02:52:34People used to wonder, 'Oh, I wish I could retire.'
02:52:38Now, money has become a bitter memory. May God help our future.
02:52:41One simit is 25 liras. Calculate it, you can't even buy
02:52:45a simit. I wish it was 10 liras, 5 liras. I am 69
02:52:48years old. A house could be bought for 10 liras once. Now
02:52:52it's 10 liras." "May God bless those with children,
02:52:54they could become homeowners. In the past, people could buy
02:52:57houses,
02:52:59they could buy cars with their retirement bonuses, they could at least
02:53:02make an investment. But unfortunately,
02:53:06that's not possible now.
02:53:09I mean, they either go on a family vacation, or for a month.
02:53:11Since I have a retirement salary, I go to the city's
02:53:15public dining hall right now. I ate and came back, may God bless
02:53:18those who invented them. He said, 'I tolerate
02:53:21my son's clothes.' I make do with my son's clothes.
02:53:24Maybe for investment, a little dollar or gold, and put it aside,
02:53:28and try to make a living from its interest.
02:53:32Girl, you've already paid the money to her.
02:53:35For years, in rain, snow, and winter, you paid
02:53:38that money to her. So, give them something
02:53:42so they can relax. Nothing will happen. You can't buy
02:53:45a car, not even a small
02:53:47junk car now."
02:55:34without saying much or little, donate to Darüşşafaka,
02:55:37so our children can have a bright future through education.
02:56:17News of price increases and decreases for fuel
02:56:20are coming, citizens are confused. Their heads are spinning. Tracking
02:56:24fuel prices is harder than tracking the stock market.
02:56:27Now, getting the timing right is also important. So we asked the public,
02:56:30"When and according to what do you decide to fill
02:56:34your tank?" Well, in Turkey, we can't really
02:56:38decide that, because it's volatile every day.
02:56:41Now, when the fuel is at the bottom, we buy it when it's at the bottom.
02:56:44I mean, as much as our money is enough,
02:56:47according to my needs or my pocket. Most of all...
02:56:51göre en çok da...
02:57:05it might be easier to follow, because why? The screens are always in front
02:57:09of your eyes, but it's not like that here. Here, will you follow
02:57:12the road, or will you follow the labels
02:57:16on the road? These are big problems. When my tank is empty,
02:57:19I have to fill it up. We don't look at price increases or decreases.
02:57:23But when there's a discount, that's our loss. For example,
02:57:26I filled my tank now, but if there's
02:57:29a discount tonight, I'll lose money, that's what I mean. We can't
02:57:32keep up with the prices anymore, because they change every day. They reduce it,
02:57:36then they increase it, there's no stability in the country. Those discounts don't affect
02:57:40me at all. I'll buy 50 liters of fuel,
02:57:44and it will make a 200 lira difference, but my tank that used to cost 1500 liras
02:57:47to fill, now costs 4500 liras. A 200 lira discount
02:57:51won't affect me at all. We always keep our tanks full,
02:57:54but the prices are high, of course. Well,
02:57:58my car is both gasoline and LPG.
02:58:01I've cancelled the gasoline, I mean, fuel is too expensive.
02:58:05LPG is also expensive. In some places it's 30 liras, in some places
02:58:09it's 35 liras, that's how it goes. I don't know, I buy and use LPG. But it's very harmful
02:58:12to the engine. What can you do, you have to. They're making fun
02:58:16of it. Today they increase the price, 3 days later,
02:58:20you look and they say there's a discount. What's the point?
02:58:24It will come again in 3 days. No need, I think.
02:58:27This is an election investment, a gimmick,
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02:59:19"Good morning, dear viewers, welcome to Gündoğarken. I am Deniz
02:59:22Bayramoğlu. Today is September 15th, Tuesday. We will present
02:59:26the developments on Turkey's and the world's agenda in detail
02:59:28to you. What happened, what transpired
02:59:32since yesterday evening while you were asleep, it's all on your screens."
02:59:35Of course, we will not stop there. For those who are setting off, what is the
02:59:39traffic situation? We will look and report. We will tell you the main points in Istanbul.
02:59:43We will look at the weather forecast. We will report on world developments.
02:59:46We will go to London. We will go to Washington. So,
02:59:50for the next 3 hours, from 7 to 10, whatever
02:59:54you need to know before you set off today, before you start your life,
02:59:58before you start your day, it will all be on these screens. Let's not make it too long.
03:00:01Let's immediately see what's on our agenda, but first. Let's also
03:00:05remind you that you will see it in our headlines shortly, you will see it
03:00:09as our first headline, in fact, almost, uh,
03:00:11diesel fuel has been increased, so that's why today, after many price increases,
03:00:15after many problems, we said "bill", where are the bills
03:00:18being cut, to whom are they being issued, to which of us are they being issued, what
03:00:22is the size of the bill, what is its magnitude?
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