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00:00:00In
00:00:04Tel Aviv, the fast begins at 6:22 PM and ends at
00:00:077:34 PM. In Haifa, the fast begins at 6:09
00:00:10PM and ends at 7:04 PM. In Beersheba,
00:00:13it begins at 6:21 PM and ends
00:00:16at 7:15 PM.
00:00:20And before we finish, here's a taste of what awaits you in the Kan News edition on Monday,
00:00:23after Yom
00:00:24Kippur.
00:01:15for this hour. We'll be back at 3 PM with another update. Have a quiet
00:01:19and good rest of the day. A good final signing. Goodbye
00:01:21for now.
00:01:35So what do we know about Yom
00:01:36Kippur?
00:01:40That long before the war, with all the terrible events and awakenings
00:01:44and failures, it was still a day of
00:01:47atonement, a day for the soul to gather all the stains that clung to it during
00:01:51the year. This is the day we received the Torah, after the first
00:01:54tablets were broken. It is a day when we remember what is broken and what is whole within
00:01:58us.
00:02:02And the sages say that there were no days as good for Israel as Tu
00:02:05B'Av and Yom Kippur. So on such a day, who would even think
00:02:08of eating, or bathing, or wearing leather clothes? And what
00:02:12can one truly enjoy?
00:02:14It's a day when one wraps oneself in white and touches higher worlds,
00:02:18from Kol Nidre to Ne'ila, one performs an accounting of the soul,
00:02:21for we are like clay in the hands of the Creator, who, if He wishes,
00:02:25lengthens, and if He wishes,
00:02:27shortens.
00:02:47In Jewish law, it is customary to say that there were no better days for Israel than Tu B'Av
00:02:51and Yom Kippur. You know, that's
00:02:52surprising.
00:02:57What does the holiday of love have to do with the most awful day of all?
00:03:00The awful days. But it is precisely the very deep values of Yom
00:03:03Kippur that have made it a particularly good day,
00:03:07and perhaps the most significant value
00:03:10that can be done in many different and even strange ways.
00:03:55journey of soul-searching, we went to the rabbi, and not just
00:03:59any rabbi, Yossi, for whom every day is
00:04:02a kind of Yom
00:04:03Kippur.
00:04:11First of all, this place, I often
00:04:14seclude myself here, by myself. Every day
00:04:17you go to the forest to seclude yourself and talk to yourself. Yes, or
00:04:20bless,
00:04:23speak to the Master of the Universe. Without another person around.
00:04:26The desired practice is one hour every day.
00:04:30Wow, you didn't get carried away. Solitude is not loneliness.
00:04:33It's actually a state where you isolate yourself from all external
00:04:36stimuli. There is the more central point, which is
00:04:39soul
00:04:40searching.
00:04:45The soul-searching, it's also about examining where I live
00:04:49in relation to my values. Yes,
00:04:53am I true to what I have defined for myself
00:04:55as worthy? And also in the sense of what I
00:04:58yearn for. What are my longings?
00:05:02And here in the forest, this forest is my
00:05:05psychologist.
00:05:09On Yom Kippur, the entire purpose of this day
00:05:12is actually to cleanse us of the burden
00:05:15of sin, the burden of transgression. It is actually
00:05:19a journey of love. When I release the burden, it is
00:05:22the anger, it is the grudges I hold against
00:05:26all those who harmed me, it is all those I harmed and did not
00:05:30bother to acknowledge it, even to myself,
00:05:34even to my own
00:05:35self.
00:05:38There are techniques of solitude, genres of solitude. I can
00:05:42talk about the accepted technique for organizing
00:05:46solitude. First of all, find a place where you feel
00:05:48comfortable, meaning that if you are in a new environment,
00:05:52walk around a bit until you find the rock that invites you, the
00:05:55... the tree that feels pleasant to you.
00:05:59After that, the first stage is to be in gratitude,
00:06:02thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, thanksgiving. This is always relevant. How nice that I
00:06:06am here now and cool. Not at all about the last moment, about
00:06:10health, about... second stage.
00:06:13It's about telling what hurts me, if there's something that hurts
00:06:17me to talk about it, but to release it, meaning, not to stay
00:06:20there, to acknowledge that it
00:06:22exists,
00:06:25desire, what I miss, what I
00:06:27strive for, and the main
00:06:30thing is a review of the last day or
00:06:34last week, did I live
00:06:36according to my values? So,
00:06:39gratitude, pain.
00:06:42Desire, did I live? Do you want some acronyms
00:06:45to make it easy to remember? Go on, recognition.
00:06:49There's a great rock here waiting for you since the six days of creation, it
00:06:53hasn't changed much.
00:07:15I like to think of myself as being outside the box, but I really
00:07:18needed the letters, to go through them one by one to remember
00:07:21the exercise and I did it systematically, and I must say
00:07:25that...
00:07:29Yes, I had one or two insights. You
00:07:32know what Ashkenazim say in Yiddish, "Gmar Chatimah
00:07:36Tova," meaning "May you be sealed for a good year." "Gmar Hasimoto Va" also sounds
00:07:40like "May the blockages end."
00:07:53There are people, and I am among them, who, in order to conduct a true soul-searching,
00:07:56need external intervention, another person who talks to them on a regular
00:08:00basis and usually for a regular fee. So what about
00:08:04the interplay between the annual soul-searching of Yom Kippur
00:08:07and our weekly soul-searching at the psychologist's?
00:08:11They teach you at home.
00:08:34Psychotherapy is based on introspection.
00:08:38From that perspective, it is soul-searching, but soul-searching
00:08:41that seeks change.
00:08:45Are there those who do soul-searching more than once a year?
00:08:48Yes, the idea of soul-searching, which is
00:08:51central to Yom Kippur,
00:08:55is actually quite
00:08:58extraordinary if you think about it, because what it means is to step
00:09:01out of the routine, to stop and reflect.
00:09:05Now, as human beings, we do this, and when do we do it? We usually
00:09:09do it in special situations, or...
00:09:12when we are in a crisis and we say, "Hey, how did we get here? What's
00:09:16going on?" Or after
00:09:19we have gone through a difficult period, or
00:09:21very big changes, drastic changes, then we
00:09:25need to do it again and look. But
00:09:28ultimately, if we want to gain something from it, even if we have reached
00:09:32some conclusion or even if some
00:09:34traffic light
00:09:38has flashed for us, it requires
00:09:41it requires some kind of process. Most things, most
00:09:44changes are difficult to make except
00:09:46through a process.
00:09:52At first you feel bad and you don't know why, after that you already
00:09:56know why, but you still feel bad, it didn't help you much
00:09:59with the feeling, you understood, you need to change, that's, okay, you even
00:10:03change, one of the biggest difficulties is
00:10:06to get from the state of understanding
00:10:08to the state of change. That's it.
00:10:12The process of forgiveness
00:10:15requires viewing things in a different
00:10:19context, to see it in some
00:10:21באיזשהו
00:10:23way as part of a larger picture. If the moment
00:10:27we open the picture, see it in a different context, there
00:10:30is a chance that things will make sense that it is easier
00:10:34to live with, that it is easier to accept
00:10:36it.
00:10:42What about Yom Kippur? Do you think it's effective or would you design it
00:10:45differently? Yom Kippur, I think one
00:10:48of its greatest aspects
00:10:51is
00:10:54that it comes with such a great
00:10:58burden of tradition, just as Yom Kippur is a bubble within
00:11:01the year, singled out,
00:11:05treasured, neutralized,
00:11:08and now you are with
00:11:11yourself
00:11:13and... as much as you can
00:11:16disconnect from the daily routine
00:11:19that actually distracts us from this
00:11:22introspection.
00:11:49this work? We talked about soul-searching that takes place within
00:11:52the soul, or if you prefer, the mind. But this accounting can also be done
00:11:56in the body. Thousands of Israelis got up from the couch at 40-something
00:12:00years old, discovered that they were deteriorating or their wheels were, and started
00:12:04running. On their way to becoming Ironmen, they realized that torturing
00:12:07the body could actually help with soul-searching.
00:12:20Ironman is considered the toughest competition there is. How many stages?
00:12:233.8 kilometers. In Ironman, and then you ride
00:12:27180 kilometers. Wow. And then, for dessert, you run
00:12:30a marathon, which is 42 kilometers.
00:12:43In my opinion, it sometimes reminds me a bit of the coming-of-age process of an African tribe. You did
00:12:47something, you have a stamp, and you can
00:12:57station.
00:13:05There's a lot, a lot, a lot of mental work involved,
00:13:09a lot. It also adds to the soul when you truly
00:13:12overcome things, but often you find
00:13:15answers to all sorts of questions that really bother you. Like,
00:13:18you think, if I deal with this here, later I'm sure I'll deal with
00:13:22problems I have outside of this. This sport
00:13:25I think this sport replaces a psychologist, and every time I was a little
00:13:29nervous at home, I would tell the girls, "I'm going for a run." I would come back and they'd say, "Mom, you're
00:13:32calm, everything's wonderful." I would come back with a smile from ear to ear. Why do people
00:13:36generally start at age 45 or something? Why do they start? But usually
00:13:40what happens with most people in this field is that they start and say, "Okay, I
00:13:43want to do 10 kilometers." And that's fine. Then they get to, "I
00:13:47want to do a half marathon." "I want to do a marathon." And slowly
00:13:50but surely, the goals become higher
00:13:52and higher. I ... I actually sat with my wife and told
00:13:56her, "At age 40, I'm giving myself the gift of doing my first
00:14:00Ironman." And that's it. From there, I actually started
00:14:04with 40-something kilos more than I weigh today. There are several reasons why people enter
00:14:08this world. One of them is indeed some kind of crisis or crises they go through in their 30s
00:14:11or, more commonly, in their 40s, when people have more or less settled
00:14:15down and suddenly they open their eyes and see that there's a very
00:14:19big challenge here. There are things here that are related to the competitive
00:14:22drive. There's a communal
00:14:25aspect.
00:14:28If you go into almost any settlement, from a village, kibbutz, moshav,
00:14:32city, you'll see people running. The issue of running
00:14:35in Israel and cycling started recently. Today it's already part
00:14:38of a healthy lifestyle. Today there are about 300
00:14:41thousand people who run. And they
00:14:44run regularly. It's very Israeli. This
00:14:48desire to be seen, to be heroes, perhaps also
00:14:51from the army and all the, meaning, to do the impossible. And everyone says how much.
00:14:59Israelis love extremes, beautiful. Israelis very quickly
00:15:02go from running in the neighborhood to
00:15:04doing a marathon.
00:15:08We all grapple with and perform soul-searching, but there are people who turn
00:15:12this accounting into a profession. Hey, Hagit? I'm not talking about
00:15:16mathematics, but about poetry. The poet Hagit
00:15:19Grossman defines her work as a daily ledger of
00:15:23the soul. A ledger that...
00:15:28You write poems on a typewriter or write on a typewriter, that's
00:15:31the Musa's machine? Wow. Yes.
00:15:34I have a collection, but this one he, the Musa, gave
00:15:38me. He, he wrote "Black Box" on it. What do you
00:15:41say? I have all sorts of things, there's a whole
00:15:45collection here. Humanity survived thanks
00:15:48to words, thanks to language. Therefore, the master
00:15:51of language has a very, very essential role
00:15:55among people in the world.
00:15:59Do you want to try writing? Yes, do you see these Hebrew letters?
00:16:03How can one give up this? What
00:16:06happened? Where's the period?
00:16:09Here?
00:16:12Yes, luckily. How long, since what age have you been writing poetry? Let's say? I
00:16:16was simply 14 and they wanted me to have a profession.
00:16:19They put me in a school with a classroom full of these machines.
00:16:23And they told me that I needed to be a secretary. So
00:16:27my dad bought me a typewriter.
00:16:30And I just sat and wrote poems.
00:16:33And when I got bored, I went to the library and read Davolach and Yehuda.
00:16:37My life, so they, they pretty much saved me, they really saved
00:16:40me.
00:16:45I wrote my first poem at age six, and it was published in the
00:16:49school newspaper. Beautiful, instant
00:16:51success. There is no success
00:16:54for poets. Poets don't know what success is.
00:16:57They, they don't have the absorptive material that absorbs
00:17:01it. Like, what's missing headlines? No, not headlines,
00:17:04love. Poets are suckers for love.
00:17:12What is the place of soul-searching in the life of a
00:17:16poet?
00:17:18I think that writing is a delay of
00:17:22the soul. I think that's one of the reasons I need
00:17:25to do it. Writing must be
00:17:29daily, because the soul changes so much, and everything
00:17:32is in the soul. The soul is the essence of the matter. If you don't follow
00:17:36your soul. You are liable to get lost
00:17:39and erased. That's why once a year there is this in Judaism, which is a very
00:17:43wise thing, to actually do soul-searching. It's a time when you stop
00:17:46and think about the soul. Now there's a lot of food
00:17:49for thought here, because the soul is always
00:17:52suffering.
00:17:56There is another parallel dimension,
00:17:59and in it I am who I am
00:18:03and I have not lost myself, stop me, and the words
00:18:06I wrote are not detached from a spiritual
00:18:09realm, and I can sit and write directly
00:18:13from within me, and I am connected to the words in a serious
00:18:16bond, that they are from a seed I planted,
00:18:20and they are original and good for expressing my
00:18:23truth, and I am not disturbed by tasks given to me,
00:18:27and I do not lose my way, but go
00:18:30astray to find new territories
00:18:32and stretch boundaries and invent a true
00:18:35reflection of myself.
00:18:41Soul-searching is a difficult thing in itself, but there
00:18:44are those who take their insights from soul-searching and implement them
00:18:48practically, not only on themselves, but also on
00:18:50their surroundings. Benny Lipschitz was for years a chef who worked with the greatest
00:18:54chefs in the country, but his soul-searching took him to a completely
00:18:58different side of the food
00:19:12I was looking for something, meaning, as a chef, growing
00:19:16vegetables seemed very
00:19:18natural to me.
00:19:20This is Kedron's edible forest plot. The entire
00:19:24place has been around for six, seven years. What
00:19:26is the purpose of this forest? The purpose of this
00:19:30forest is to actually be relevant to the times. Meaning, if we are
00:19:34in a time of water crisis, food crisis.
00:19:37that are eroding, imagined hunger, and
00:19:41many other problems of environmental pollution,
00:19:45then ecological agriculture is the immediate
00:19:48response. What's wrong with conventional agriculture? There's nothing wrong
00:19:51with conventional agriculture, but you're correcting, I'm not
00:19:54just laughing.
00:20:00Conventional agriculture
00:20:03provides an enormous amount of food, that's
00:20:06true. But the environmental and human
00:20:10cost is enormous. That is,
00:20:13uh, the introduction of very toxic substances into the soil,
00:20:16and the creation of food of very, very low quality. That is,
00:20:20the final result is really something that may
00:20:23look beautiful to the eye, but the value of
00:20:26these vegetables is very low and their environmental cost is very,
00:20:30very high. Specifically, here, every gram
00:20:33that comes out of this field and someone eats it is better than any other gram
00:20:37that comes from conventional farming. This is non-violent protest, it's undermining
00:20:41the system. The system doesn't want you to grow your own
00:20:44food and save on intermediaries, and save on
00:20:47taxes.
00:20:53We are not growing vegetables here, I know it looks like it,
00:20:57but actually what we are growing here is soil. Meaning, even if I identify
00:21:01some problem in the plant, yes, I don't treat
00:21:04the problem on the plant surgically, but I first go down to the soil and check what
00:21:08is happening there. Yes, these are the lives that occur between the soil
00:21:11and the mulch. These are the meaningful lives. That's where
00:21:14digestion happens, the decomposition of organic materials
00:21:17and the nourishment of the plants.
00:21:21I was involved in cooking
00:21:24for a good number of years and enjoyed it
00:21:27very much. I don't know what happened, but something happened,
00:21:30and I found myself unable
00:21:33to do it anymore. Unable to go to restaurants anymore, unable
00:21:37to deal with customers anymore, unable
00:21:40to lose health for food that is
00:21:44not nourishment, it's just food, like it lost all proportion,
00:21:47like the hedonism in it actually. In my opinion,
00:21:50it got out of control, and if our cultural heroes today are chefs,
00:21:54we are in a very, very difficult situation. You had to fix the foundation?
00:21:58You worked at the end of the path? You wanted to come work
00:22:01at the beginning of the... I returned to that root. Yes, not
00:22:05to make any kind of correction. I did terrible
00:22:08things. Almost every possible animal passed under my
00:22:10knife. I didn't see it. I didn't see it.
00:22:14I was, what did you see? That. Meaning, I was immersed
00:22:18in work. Yes, for me it was. Raw material, everything
00:22:21is legitimate. You can't force a person, ah, not
00:22:25veganism nor any worldview. He needs to. Now you
00:22:28are vegan. I have been vegan for eight years, seven years.
00:22:32Ah, this is the minimum. I won't succeed in changing
00:22:35big things in the world, but here within this small
00:22:38compound, I feel that I am doing something right
00:22:41and good.
00:22:46Environmental soul-searching can be done on land and also in the sea.
00:22:50When an industrial designer, who is also an avid diver, saw with his own
00:22:54eyes the corals in the Gulf of Eilat being destroyed, he
00:22:57decided to harness science and art to give back to nature
00:23:28enormous gravitational pull, and much of our future lies there. I believe the next
00:23:32decade will be about this place and this
00:23:34resource.
00:23:37The beauty underwater is indescribable. On the other hand,
00:23:41the pain felt when seeing
00:24:03Why do we need an artificial reef? What about the natural reef? Isn't it artificial? It could be
00:24:07that this is a type of artificial environment
00:24:11where the speed at which it can be created and the solution it can
00:24:14provide is completely different from
00:24:17something natural.
00:24:22The printer is now entering a sequence of printing
00:24:25operations. It is actually one of the largest
00:24:28of its kind. It was purchased for this research,
00:24:31in fact, and was built here specifically for
00:24:35this purpose. And so we will print coral,
00:24:39artificial coral that will then settle in its new home
00:24:41in Eilat.
00:24:51And what's happening in the water? A few weeks ago, we placed
00:24:54a pole several meters high, covered with many, many
00:24:58models like these, of all sizes, with all sorts of intermediate chains.
00:25:02We protected it, we put up signs.
00:25:05I received an update from Asa, a diving update. Well, there are still
00:25:09no breaks. After we arrived, we saw two fish pecking at the facilities.
00:25:13There are already quite a few, the number of fish increased, the number of species
00:25:16did not. Pictures will be uploaded tomorrow to Dropbox. Amazing.
00:25:25But this is a shape that exists in the sea anyway. No, no,
00:25:28but what we are trying to do here is to combine
00:25:31chaos on the one hand, and on the other hand, to take
00:25:34into account parameters, spaces and complexities that address
00:25:38specific creatures precisely
00:25:41according to our measurements and observations. Large fish, small
00:25:44fish, medium fish actually get their home.
00:25:48Isn't it a bit cheeky of them to be even better than coral?
00:25:52Cheeky? I think it's perhaps even cheekier to just
00:25:55copy
00:25:56nature.
00:26:01Don't you have that kind of feeling? Very, very personal, that you feel bad about these corals and you want to do
00:26:23we know how to do into this place of
00:26:27improving, changing, fixing, and this is done, as it's called,
00:26:30with fear and trembling, not with audacity. And not out of a thought that we know
00:26:34everything, but truly out of curiosity and a sincere desire to do
00:29:09Nordia Jerusalem was founded by die-hard fans of Beitar Jerusalem
00:29:13who could no longer tolerate the racism that was spreading
00:29:15in the stands.
00:29:18For me, this is a story and a completely personal
00:29:47the fans and that thing about someone who maybe won. You won
00:29:51everything with me. People like you who we sat with all evening
00:29:55and said, "Forget it, forget it, it's not
00:29:58going to happen, it's not going to happen."
00:30:09What is Beitar Nordia Jerusalem? Nordia, Max
00:30:12Nordau, the muscular Jewry, the beginning
00:30:15of Zionism, to create the new Jew
00:30:18in the Land of Israel. We are the only team in the world
00:30:22that rose up against racism and against criminality. There is no such
00:30:25thing.
00:30:29We are talking about the Arkadymak era, and within. The strange
00:30:33relationship that Arkadymak had with the world and with
00:30:36Beitar, two Muslim Chechen players were signed here,
00:30:39and the fans literally burned down the club, threw stones
00:30:42at the captain, and went to Kornefain's house
00:30:46and made his life miserable, and simply put
00:30:50the ideology of some of them above
00:30:54the club and took the club to the brink of disaster. What
00:30:57ideology? Beitar's
00:31:00ideology.
00:31:07I was at Teddy, I was at Teddy with the friends who eventually
00:31:10together founded Nordia, and we were there in the eastern stand.
00:31:15And we tried to cheer and they whistled at us like
00:31:18that behind our ears and didn't allow us, and that's
00:31:22when it was time to take, fold the scarf that always sat at the entrance to the house,
00:31:25fold it and push it inside, and then Beitar was over. I
00:31:29think most Beitar fans have a crack
00:31:32in their footballing soul, and it's all complicated
00:31:36relationships. To be a Beitar fan all your life is to be in soul-searching. You
00:31:39left Beitar and you are still continuing this soul-searching of what brought me there,
00:31:43where am I going next? When you were a "Nody" (outsider), you were at the height of the Lions' Den. The first
00:31:47fan group that was founded by about 15-20 people, and I was
00:31:50there too. Ah, they called it the Lions' Den, and that was actually the first
00:31:54time to unite the crowd. So there was this
00:31:58"Ten Commandments" of the Lions' Den, and the "Ten Commandments" of the Lions' Den
00:32:01was without racism.
00:32:05Eli Yohan, the king, if you read him, you're like, "Boom, boom,
00:32:09boom, boom, Nordia, one, one." And then suddenly came the generation
00:32:13that would later become the leaders of La Familia. And then I remember there was specifically some
00:32:17incident where I made some sign and they told me if you hang
00:32:20it up, like, they'll beat you up. I hung it up, and then the game was against
00:32:23Hapoel Kfar Saba at Teddy. Three guys grabbed
00:32:27me in a way like, "Come on, we just want to talk to you." They took me aside, put a
00:32:31knife to my stomach and told me, "If you come to the next game, we'll stab
00:32:34you."
00:32:43I think Nordia in the end becomes. Apropos soul-searching, it
00:32:46will be, no matter what happens, Nordia is
00:32:50eternal, because it is the resistance movement of Beitar
00:32:53fans against racism and criminality, and this thing is
00:32:57forever.
00:33:04So Yom Kippur is perhaps perceived as the most religious day of the year, but it managed
00:33:08to defend a human and universal principle that has
00:33:10no substitute. A person needs to conduct soul-searching with themselves on a regular
00:33:14and ongoing basis. To give up the excuses, the narrow-mindedness, the
00:33:18self-deceptions, and to practice a piece of Yom Kippur
00:33:21even outside the High Holy Days.