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00:02:04Good afternoon, I am Dušan Mlađenović, you are watching the special N1
00:02:08live broadcast on the occasion of the visit of Ukrainian President Volodymyr
00:02:11Zelensky. This is his first visit to Serbia and at this
00:02:15moment, meetings of delegations are underway. Previously, a
00:02:19ceremonial welcome was organized in front of the Palace of Serbia. Last night, Volodymyr Zelensky stated on his X
00:02:22account that the main topics would be economic
00:02:26relations, relations with the European Union, but all other issues
00:02:29that... could improve relations between the two countries, including
00:02:33security. Although the delivery of weapons is never
00:02:36officially discussed, there are indications that military
00:02:39cooperation will be discussed. Zelensky and Vučić had a bilateral
00:02:43meeting last night. In the next little over two hours, we will analyze
00:02:47this visit, military and political relations between the two countries,
00:02:50potential reactions from Brussels and Moscow. We will also follow
00:02:54the address of the two presidents from the Palace of Serbia.
00:02:57We're going there at the beginning of the show. where is
00:03:00our colleague
00:03:01Aleksandra,
00:03:05Aleksandra, what did the
00:03:08Serbia, given the ceremonial welcome look like and what is expected from the meeting of
00:03:11delegations, the meeting of the two
00:03:13presidents, we know what some of the announced
00:03:17topics are, but what could be the topics that were not
00:03:20announced?
00:03:24Dušan, so the meeting took place
00:03:27with understandably increased security measures. with
00:03:30helicopters flying overhead, as we saw in the
00:03:33footage, the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky arrived and was
00:03:37received by the President of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić,
00:03:41the Ukrainian anthem was played, followed by the Serbian anthem,
00:03:44then a review of the guard of honor was carried out, there was
00:03:48no ceremonial firing this time, as for the
00:03:51flags in the city, yes, there were Ukrainian
00:03:55flags, but far more modest, perhaps more discreet than was the
00:03:59case during... visits of delegations from some
00:04:02other countries, the composition of the delegation indicates
00:04:06that the main topic of discussion will actually be
00:04:09economic cooperation, it will actually be joint cooperation in
00:04:12European integration, which is the proclaimed goal of both
00:04:16countries, both Serbia and Ukraine, also that
00:04:20there will be talk of uh
00:04:23security on the other hand and the only memorandum that has been announced to be
00:04:26signed concerns precisely the security uh...
00:04:30side, such a visit, therefore for the first time since he became
00:04:33president, for the first time since the large-scale war began
00:04:37in Ukraine for the Ukrainian president to come to Serbia, of course
00:04:40the signing of such a memorandum
00:04:43is not too big a task
00:04:47or reason for the President of Ukraine, a wartime
00:04:50president, to come to our country, but there must be
00:04:53something that will be signed, I mentioned the composition of
00:04:56the delegations, so there is the Minister of Energy, the Minister of Trade,
00:05:00there is the Minister of Agriculture on our side, on
00:05:03the Ukrainian side there are no ministers, but there are members of
00:05:07the cabinet of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, there is
00:05:10an experienced diplomat who knows these regions very well, Serhiy
00:05:14Kyslytsya, then there is Oleksiy Sobolev, who was Minister of Economy, and
00:05:18is now in the President's cabinet recently, after these latest changes
00:05:22in the Ukrainian, Ukrainian
00:05:25government, and there is Ihor Zhovkva, also a member
00:05:28of the cabinet who is in charge of
00:05:31European integration. So, yes, there is
00:05:35interest from the Ukrainian side for greater
00:05:38economic cooperation, which is currently somewhere
00:05:42on our. side, on Serbia's side, I think it's
00:05:45about 345 million dollars in the first half of
00:05:482006, we know that Ukrainians want to
00:05:52sign a free trade agreement with Serbia,
00:05:55which has not existed all these years since Ukraine became an
00:05:59independent state in '91. And of course,
00:06:03that is the question of all questions, the question that
00:06:06has never been officially confirmed, that is the question
00:06:09of armaments. We know from indirect sources. from writing, for
00:06:13example, the Financial Times in 2024, that by
00:06:16then, from Serbia, armaments worth between
00:06:20800 million and
00:06:23one billion dollars had ended up
00:06:26on the Ukrainian battlefield. So, we're talking about multiple rocket launchers, we're actually talking about
00:06:29Soviet caliber armaments that
00:06:32Ukraine used a lot at the very beginning
00:06:36of the war. Now some Ukrainian analysts and military analysts say
00:06:40that there is not such a need for... that type of
00:06:43armaments given that the way of warfare has changed, it has
00:06:46moved to drone warfare and Ukraine at this
00:06:49moment is an absolute leader in Europe in
00:06:53the production of various types
00:06:56of drones, innovations in that sphere and that is
00:06:59what was mentioned in the extensive article by
00:07:03journalist Mihael Martens from Frankfurter
00:07:06Allgemeine Zeitung who again referred to Christopher Hill, otherwise
00:07:10a former ambassador here in Serbia who first officially. confirmed that Serbia
00:07:14really, through third parties, of course, massively exported
00:07:17armaments to Ukraine, so in that
00:07:20article it is said that there could be talk
00:07:23of uh joint production of drones or some
00:07:26kind of agreement in that sense where, for
00:07:30example, Serbia could get know- how, we know from some previous
00:07:34visits of Zelensky to other countries in Europe, but in the Middle East that
00:07:37Ukraine can actually sell its
00:07:40technology to. interested parties are, after all, primarily in
00:07:44Europe, to form a joint
00:07:47defense, how Serbia fits into this is a big
00:07:51question, the official composition of the delegations does not suggest
00:07:54that this could primarily be the topic, because, for
00:07:58example, Pavle Pavlica is not here, who is a
00:08:01brigadier general who participated in the battle for
00:08:04Bakhmut, his presence, for example, would indicate that the primary
00:08:08topic is joint defense, but that does not mean that this
00:08:12topic. is not discussed, that does not mean that this topic, for example, was not discussed
00:08:15yesterday during the gala dinner at Villa Mir, which
00:08:19was hosted by the Serbian president in honor of the Ukrainian
00:08:23president. As you mentioned,
00:08:27the composition of the delegations indicates that the announced
00:08:30topics will be discussed, uh, we assume then that
00:08:34the two presidents discussed how much
00:08:37it is uh actually customary for those
00:08:40so to speak uh most... important issues, most sensitive
00:08:44issues to actually be discussed at the highest level
00:08:47in this case for the two presidents to discuss
00:08:51this, especially uh knowing that
00:08:53uh Volodymyr Zelensky often has meetings with
00:08:57European leaders, with whom he precisely discusses these
00:09:00most sensitive
00:09:01matters,
00:09:05it is customary, we live in unusual times, so yes, it is customary,
00:09:08of course in such situations there would have to be contacts
00:09:12between experts, between delegations, but yes,
00:09:16so what we have seen for the last year
00:09:18at a minimum, is that there is an accelerated
00:09:22need in Europe as a continent, meaning European
00:09:25countries, to form a defense, to arm themselves, to
00:09:28raise the level of arms production, a lot of that has already
00:09:32been spent on the front lines in Ukraine, and also the change in
00:09:35Washington, i.e. the election of
00:09:38Donald Trump as president
00:09:41of the United States of America has largely left Europe to
00:09:45fend for itself, and Ukraine
00:09:49must also fend for itself to some extent along with
00:09:53Europe, so yes, it would be customary for two presidents
00:09:56to discuss, to negotiate such a level
00:09:59of cooperation, extremely sensitive cooperation, it would also be
00:10:03customary, given the position that Serbia
00:10:06occupies, not to publicly discuss
00:10:10it. So, Serbia has from the very beginning condemned Russia's
00:10:13aggression against Ukraine, openly says, publicly,
00:10:17President of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić says it every time that
00:10:21he respects the territorial integrity. uh sovereignty of Ukraine,
00:10:25so that means that he does not recognize Crimea, that he does not recognize the four regions that
00:10:29Russia additionally annexed
00:10:32in 2022, but
00:10:35at the same time that he does not want to impose sanctions, so there is also a proclaimed military
00:10:39neutrality in such a situation, unless the policy changes
00:10:44on topics of military cooperation in terms of drone production, for
00:10:48example, or direct sales of weapons,
00:10:51so officially it is not to be expected that
00:10:55any of the participants in such talks would publicly
00:10:58state it, after all, when it was happening at the very beginning of the war
00:11:02and when footage and
00:11:04photographs of uh rockets produced in
00:11:07Krušik with dates, i.e. serial numbers that
00:11:11indicated that they were newly produced, i.e. that it was not some stock, then it was
00:11:14denied, only for the president of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić to say
00:11:18at one point that we don't
00:11:21know where it ends up, we sold it regularly. for
00:11:25example, to the Czech Republic or the United States of America, who do not use that caliber at all in their army, and where it ultimately
00:11:29ended up, that is actually not our
00:11:33concern. Aleksandra,
00:11:36thank you very much, Aleksandra continues to
00:11:39follow Volodymyr Zelensky's visit and we will see her
00:11:42later. Now let's go to our
00:11:46Anđela Čolanić, who is in front of the Palace of
00:11:49Serbia, Anđela, unlike some other
00:11:52visits when the flags of the countries. as Aleksandra said,
00:11:56where the guests came from, were displayed all the way from the airport to
00:12:00the city center, this time that is not the case, but for example, the flag
00:12:03was displayed on the Belgrade Tower,
00:12:06the flag of Ukraine, so how does the city look and what do
00:12:10people in Belgrade say about Zelensky's
00:12:12visit?
00:12:16Uh, that's right, now it's uh calm in front of the Palace of Serbia
00:12:20where we are currently located, a little over half
00:12:23an hour ago, the Ukrainian president
00:12:25was welcomed in front of the Palace of Serbia
00:12:28with the anthem of Ukraine, and then the anthem of
00:12:31Bože Pravde, i.e. the anthem of
00:12:35Serbia, after the Ukrainian and Serbian presidents
00:12:39entered the Palace of Serbia where they will continue the rest of the program
00:12:42and discussions,
00:12:45the choir, i.e. the orchestra of the Serbian Army, the guard
00:12:48and the rest of the members of the Serbian army withdrew
00:12:52from the plateau.
00:12:55The palace, members of the police remained to patrol
00:12:58in the surrounding streets near
00:13:02the Palace of Serbia, where security measures are still increased,
00:13:05at the very moment when the Ukrainian
00:13:09president was arriving, it was not possible to pass
00:13:12even on the sidewalk near the Palace of Serbia
00:13:16in the surrounding streets, police officers escorted citizens to
00:13:20the surrounding streets, traffic was also suspended for
00:13:23about half an hour. The palace and it is
00:13:26now running smoothly in all directions and surrounding
00:13:30streets around the Palace of
00:13:33complex relations between Ukraine,
00:13:37Serbia and Russia, we spoke to citizens yesterday,
00:13:40we asked them what they expect from the arrival of
00:13:44the Ukrainian president, how they view him and
00:13:47I suggest we listen to what they told us. How do you
00:13:51view this visit? Well, negatively.
00:13:53Why? Well, because of everything that is happening, in what
00:13:57context is the visit negative for you? Well, because I think
00:14:01we have better friends, who are our better friends? Well, we know
00:14:04who, he is uh persona non grata for Belgrade, well,
00:14:08he came, he came, I don't see any problem, and
00:14:12why at this very moment the visit?
00:14:15He goes everywhere, as far as I watch TV, he goes everywhere he
00:14:18can, to get any help, and should
00:14:22Serbia help now, humanitarian aid to Ukraine, what do you think about that? Well, let me tell
00:14:26you, all countries that are attacked, this one that
00:14:29are defending themselves from the aggressor, should be on their side, in
00:14:33principle, this, what form of aid it is, each country should
00:14:36determine that, what will it bring to our politics? Well, it depends, it depends on how
00:14:40much weapons
00:14:40we will sell.
00:14:45So the citizens with whom we spoke generally
00:14:48believe that Serbia should remain neutral
00:14:51in the Ukraine-Russia relationship.
00:14:55and 100 public figures, including professors and
00:14:59cultural workers, yesterday uh signed
00:15:02a letter of protest, i.e. a statement of protest
00:15:05in which they oppose the arrival
00:15:08of the invitation of the Ukrainian president to visit
00:15:11Serbia for the first time since the beginning
00:15:15of the war between Russia and Ukraine.
00:15:18Uh, on the other hand, Ukrainians and Russians
00:15:21united against the war
00:15:24for... Radio Free Europe yesterday
00:15:26commented that they hope that this
00:15:30visit will actually lead to an improvement in relations
00:15:34between Ukraine and Serbia, what Aleksandra also
00:15:37on the topic mentioned is that today,
00:15:39the Ukrainian and Serbian presidents will discuss
00:15:46of security, among other things, President Vučić mentioned that
00:15:49energy will be discussed, they will discuss
00:15:52European integration, given that both states
00:15:56have uh similar problems on the path to
00:15:59joining the European Union, what is also
00:16:03important to mention is that this is the first visit
00:16:06of the Ukrainian... president and there is little, as you mentioned
00:16:10at the beginning, that allows us to conclude that he is visiting
00:16:13Serbia, our team this morning uh
00:16:16went through the city, we uh noticed only
00:16:20here uh directly near the Palace of Serbia
00:16:23and in the streets of Anti-Fascist Struggle and Spanish
00:16:26Fighters that Ukrainian flags were displayed
00:16:29while they can barely be seen anywhere else
00:16:32in the city, the Ukrainian flag that was displayed last night
00:16:36on the tower, you mentioned that, and there are also
00:16:39Russian symbols in the city, we managed to notice that
00:16:42yesterday, so the Gazprom
00:16:45billboard also remained, which says "together" and
00:16:49refers to Serbia and Russia, the negotiations,
00:16:53i.e. the talks between the Ukrainian and Serbian presidents
00:16:56will last until about 12 o'clock, at
00:16:5912:05, they are expected to uh address
00:17:02the media together, in front of the palace it's calm
00:17:05for now, what is important for all citizens
00:17:08heading to New Belgrade is that traffic is currently
00:17:11flowing unimpeded.
00:17:14Thank you, Anđela. Anđela Čolanić is monitoring the situation
00:17:17in front of the Palace of Serbia. And yes, as Anđela said,
00:17:21the first image that Volodymyr Zelensky saw upon
00:17:24entering Belgrade was that Gazprom billboard with
00:17:28joined Russian and Serbian flags that read
00:17:31"together." So the delegation meeting
00:17:34is underway. In the Palace of Serbia, it is expected that at
00:17:3812:00 the two presidents will address
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00:24:14N1.
00:24:50You are watching N1 live, dedicated to Volodymyr Zelensky's
00:24:53visit to Serbia, we continue
00:24:57the analysis of this visit, I am now talking to Oleksandr
00:25:01Levchenko, who is the former consul of Ukraine in Belgrade, as well as
00:25:04the former ambassador of Ukraine to Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia,
00:25:08Mr. Levchenko, thank you for speaking to
00:25:11N1. Thank you for the invitation, respect
00:25:15to you and the viewers, how do you see this visit,
00:25:19the topics that were... announced, we assume and we talked about that
00:25:22in the previous minutes that some topics will be
00:25:25unannounced, this primarily refers to
00:25:29military cooperation, how do you evaluate this
00:25:31visit? Well, very good, after all,
00:25:35our head of state has not been in Serbia for nine years, it's time for
00:25:39Zelensky to come to
00:25:43Belgrade, President Vučić was already twice in
00:25:47Ukraine last year in Odesa.
00:26:02countries of Southeast Europe. So
00:26:05now this is a very important visit
00:26:09to the Republic of Serbia. I think that all
00:26:12the topics that the presidents will discuss
00:26:15have bilateral interest for two
00:26:18nations that have their
00:26:22long history of cultural
00:26:26ties, economic cooperation
00:26:29and human contact.
00:26:35these meetings, especially this year in
00:26:39Ukraine, but Aleksandar Vučić is the only European leader
00:26:42uh who did not
00:26:45declarations, especially the one in Kyiv, so who did not
00:26:49join uh the condemnations of uh Russia,
00:26:53however, uh Zelensky comes
00:26:56to such a leader, what kind of
00:26:59message is that then, what message is Zelensky sending?
00:27:03Uh, and why then does he come to
00:27:05Belgrade if it is known uh what
00:27:08kind of relationship Belgrade has with Moscow?
00:27:12Well, Belgrade has its relations with Moscow
00:27:15and Belgrade has its relations with Ukraine, that should not be
00:27:19mixed up and it is important that these relations are
00:27:22in the interest of our two countries, we have
00:27:26something to say about our European
00:27:29path, meaning Ukraine and Serbia
00:27:32are moving towards joining the European Union, that is important
00:27:36and we have somewhat similar
00:27:39views on negotiations with our European
00:27:42partners and how difficult it is to open chapters,
00:27:46especially even more difficult to close negotiating
00:27:49chapters, we always have
00:27:53communication, cooperation, we are slowly moving
00:27:57towards signing a free
00:27:59trade area agreement.
00:28:33about the politics that official Moscow pursues, it is
00:28:36unfortunately aggressive, created not only against
00:28:39Ukraine, but Europe also feels
00:28:42the danger of future Russian
00:28:46aggression and just in case some things
00:28:49need to be agreed upon, discussed
00:28:52and resolved at the level of heads of state, that would be
00:28:55good, study
00:28:58uh topics, we heard what will be officially
00:29:01here. What is unofficially mentioned
00:29:05is military cooperation, German media
00:29:08say that Ukraine might even want to
00:29:12open a drone factory with Serbia, we also heard
00:29:15those allegations from the Frankfurt Allgemeine Zeitung
00:29:18uh that Christopher Hill, the former ambassador of the United States of
00:29:22America to Serbia, was a mediator in relations
00:29:25between Kyiv and Belgrade,
00:29:28how do you see that
00:29:31possibility that. therefore there is no military cooperation for now, of course no
00:29:35confirmation of direct trade, but Belgrade has
00:29:39admitted that it is possible for weapons to end up in Ukraine via third
00:29:42countries. Well, we'll see, we'll see
00:29:46what we can do, directly or indirectly, in any
00:29:49case you mentioned drones, I don't know if
00:29:52this will be a topic, but
00:29:55Americans are building a factory for the production of Ukrainian
00:29:58drones, so imagine if it is. in Serbia, if
00:30:02Americans want it, I think it would be
00:30:05good, in any case and
00:30:08the countries of the Gulf have already
00:30:12bought huge quantities of Ukrainian drones
00:30:14that help them repel these
00:30:18attacks of Iranian drones, in any case
00:30:21European countries, many European countries are looking for
00:30:25Ukrainian drones which are really effective and which have also
00:30:28somewhat turned the tide of this
00:30:32war and in any
00:30:36case they help us
00:30:39fight, now 90% of Russian
00:30:43losses are from drones, meaning Ukrainian drones, and
00:30:46Russia has already lost a million 5000
00:30:50soldiers, one million 5000
00:30:52soldiers,
00:30:5412,250 tanks,
00:30:58250 armored vehicles.