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00:00:00and what happens in the end nothing, he says
00:00:03cases are still falling, he says, they are apologizing there, this, well,
00:00:07wait, how do they send a message to citizens? It means, do
00:00:10evaluations, do it was done like that in my time,
00:00:14a spectacle was never made when it comes to something small, but here, for example, now when these
00:00:17two shootings happened
00:00:21in Eastern Sarajevo, on the
00:00:24entity line, there was a noticeable presence of federal
00:00:28police... with long barrels, what
00:00:32was, what was the goal of that action, to prevent
00:00:36perpetrators from crossing into another entity or? No, no, no, no,
00:00:39you see, that means, you see, there was a presence of both
00:00:43RS police and federal police, and there was much more presence
00:00:47of federal police than from Republika Srpska, so you see, that means they do their
00:00:50job better then, if there was a greater presence, although I
00:00:54crossed this administrative
00:00:57line of ours and I saw both... a large number of
00:01:01police officers on one side and a large number of police officers on the other side,
00:01:04and that is normal, that means that is normal police procedure
00:01:08in moments when those clashes that are happening
00:01:12are happening. And how do you comment on that, of course it's not within your jurisdiction, especially since it's
00:01:16in another entity, but that reaction of the police,
00:01:20uh, in Eastern
00:01:23people describe it as lukewarm, that attempt to negotiate
00:01:26with one of the perpetrators of attempted murder.
00:01:31You see, no, you see, it would be incorrect for me to comment,
00:01:35because, but as someone with many years of political,
00:01:39I assume you have an opinion on that, of course I have an opinion, but
00:01:43you see, we must understand one, one this
00:01:47circumstance, we don't know everything, this, what
00:01:50happened, that means we, citizens, here I, as
00:01:54a citizen, can say, not just a minister, normally I don't have all the information about what
00:01:58happened and why. In
00:02:00Administration. They publicly said at Sarajevo, in your area of responsibility, would the police reaction be
00:02:04more rigorous, here I can only, I can only answer that simply, briefly,
00:02:07the persons who committed that act would be deprived of liberty,
00:02:11well, I think that's correct of me, I can say that it has been
00:02:15proven in many cases, you know very well where we had the same
00:02:18or similar situations in the areas of the federation, we can say that
00:02:22all persons who were participants
00:02:25in such or similar criminal acts were deprived of liberty, the rest is
00:02:29competent... again, we go back to the same prosecution of the courts where
00:02:33we cannot intervene, that means citizens must
00:02:36understand that the police do their job, everything else is the responsibility
00:02:40of someone else, at the moment when I was working, our time
00:02:44was not like that, we police officers practically
00:02:47did 90% of things and our proposals that then
00:02:51went to, then there was no this, uh, then there was an investigative
00:02:54judge, if you remember, he led the investigation, he
00:02:58you need to avoid that mostly acted on our proposals, now it's a little
00:03:02different, do I agree with this,
00:03:06I, as a person who dealt with these matters,
00:03:09I don't think this is quite adequate, I think it can be done
00:03:13much better, much more efficiently and
00:03:16I think there should be stronger, more
00:03:19qualitative coordination,
00:03:22communication, a way of functioning
00:03:25between police
00:03:27agencies, judicial institutions. Of course,
00:03:31citizens, because citizens this coordination, did what
00:03:35happened in Bugojno spoil the coordination of police agencies in
00:03:38Bosnia and Herzegovina, did it disturb it in some way and, well, you see,
00:03:42endanger it, well, you see, did it cause an incident, yes,
00:03:46did it endanger it, no, because there was an immediate reaction from both
00:03:49sides, we must be honest, that means their director immediately
00:03:53contacted our responsible ones,
00:03:56measures were taken that needed to be taken in accordance with, in accordance with...
00:04:00procedures, in accordance with the law, they will initiate
00:04:03their procedures, we initiated our part, we sent everything that was needed
00:04:07to the competent institutions, so it's not, maybe this
00:04:10is good what happened and what happened in such a way that
00:04:14we send a message that such things cannot happen,
00:04:18that there are these police agencies in the
00:04:20areas of the federation that will, in accordance with the law, do everything
00:04:24necessary to not endanger the safety of citizens, so that means
00:04:28we can say that perhaps... You see, as they say, in every
00:04:31evil there is some good, in this evil it is good that we
00:04:35sent a serious, professional, quality message, that if I had been
00:04:38the Minister of Police when this happened in Potočari, if my
00:04:42people had coordinated then, it would not have happened, I assure
00:04:45you, it would not have happened, because everything can be coordinated,
00:04:49communicated, and adequate measures taken, because
00:04:52you see, an important point is to take a measure that will not
00:04:56lead to an incident. I, at the moment of communication with... with
00:05:00directors, with these commissioners,
00:05:03of course, with my fellow ministers, we looked at how to do it
00:05:07in accordance with the law, to take... one
00:05:10is our perspective, the other is the perspective of police officers on the ground who may
00:05:14have been confronted, they are professional, they have shown their
00:05:18professionalism and they have shown quality, I tell
00:05:21you, I officially praised
00:05:24these police officers who participated, of course, and
00:05:27the commissioner, I personally called after our calls, conversations, everything
00:05:31when it was finished, to personally congratulate him, because
00:05:35you see, we must, uh, as we know how to
00:05:38criticize certain things that are not in order, you know very well when there are failures
00:05:41of the police and so on, in the same way we should praise those who do their
00:05:45job well, so that people see that someone
00:05:49recognizes that quality, that no one, that their training that they do every
00:05:53day, when they perform it qualitatively in the field, that it
00:05:56is not a useless exercise, that it is an exercise that is needed by this country, and
00:06:00believe me, I must be honest, police
00:06:03agencies in the areas of Bosnia and Herzegovina as a whole,
00:06:07are certainly on a high task, please, here
00:06:11please, I always criticize. Then some come and beg me, Minister, don't,
00:06:14you provoke revolt there, then they think, how
00:06:18will you, what will you, I can't do anything, I don't fear any god, here,
00:06:22I ask the judicial institutions to follow
00:06:25the work of police agencies a little more, to give them a little
00:06:28better support, because quality support for police
00:06:32agencies, because that police officer, he has
00:06:34a feeling, he assesses the situation better than you
00:06:38there in the office when you get it, so respect their proposals.
00:06:42Here, and you will see how we will have an even better, even more qualitative
00:06:46situation, our time is slowly running out and there are a few more topics that I would like to
00:06:49discuss, uh, in recent days you have been present in the media regarding
00:06:53the topic of legal regulation of
00:06:56gender change, and then uh, it was speculated whether it was
00:07:00your proposal, not your proposal, you reacted somewhat sharply to
00:07:04that information, as if you are afraid of standing behind
00:07:07a proposal that is not yours, what is the problem for, well, you see, I am not afraid
00:07:10of anything, people are... really strange, I am a person who never
00:07:14justifies himself and is not afraid, but you see, my
00:07:18colleagues from this political, no, my colleagues
00:07:22from that political option that started it, you know, that means
00:07:25my colleagues from that political option which is currently in opposition who started
00:07:29it, who, you see, but they didn't make any mistake, to
00:07:32cut a long story short, it's their obligation in accordance with the law, they had to
00:07:36do it and they did their part of the job, and when they finished their
00:07:40part of the job, when it was announced that they finished that part of the job, not me,
00:07:44they finished, then they started to criticize me, then
00:07:48they started to spread untruths, they, they stated that
00:07:51I started the initiative that someone can change
00:07:55gender, well, I can start an initiative that someone can change something, neither am I
00:07:58authorized nor can I do that, that means they tried to spin
00:08:02to the citizens as if I want children to change something, well,
00:08:06I mean, you understand, but these are sick people, you see, imagine how much
00:08:10topic, think about it. You have to be really a sick
00:08:14person to build a political career in such a way,
00:08:17I never do that, that means, have you ever heard from
00:08:21me that I, well, you see, there were a thousand things that
00:08:25they did not do well, they made mistakes, so I
00:08:28don't go out, I don't badmouth, I don't try
00:08:32to gain some political benefit for myself, everything that is wrong
00:08:35in this country that has been done in the last 30 years and everything that is good,
00:08:39they did, here I congratulate them for everything that is good, but... everything that is wrong,
00:08:43factories that survived the war, they
00:08:46shut them down, that means we saved the war, they shut down
00:08:49now, well, normally, normally, well, normally they
00:08:53shut down when they brought them, no, they brought them to the phase of shutting down, you cannot
00:08:56save a dead person, so understand, when a dead person comes
00:09:00to the hospital, there is no salvation for him, he says we want artificial, we want
00:09:03this for half a year of the current government, that's
00:09:07right, we are watching what is happening in Zenica where
00:09:10you live, you are following that. Of course he is following,
00:09:13you see, I was, I gave the best proposal when it was in question,
00:09:17I said that we should launch this incentive for the production
00:09:21of certain metals and so on, to protect it, then I
00:09:24proposed and lobbied for the law
00:09:28regarding imports to pass, but you must understand that in
00:09:31parliaments there are people from HDZ who had no interest in
00:09:35it passing and in the federal government they did not vote for it, we
00:09:39outvoted them normally in the Council of Ministers they did not.
00:09:42vote, what is happening, there are certain lobbies, there are certain
00:09:46policies and it is known whose interest it is, it is known whose interest it is,
00:09:50just take who imports the most into Bosnia and Herzegovina, that is his interest,
00:09:53you see which political option is close to him, that's what you will, but that's the problem that people
00:09:57put their personal interests above the state of Bosnia and Herzegovina, I
00:10:01think it was better to save the Zenica Ironworks, to save their
00:10:04jobs, because the Zenica Ironworks was very important in
00:10:08that most difficult moment for Bosnia and Herzegovina, for the whole thing that will cost
00:10:12in a political sense, well, you see those who, those
00:10:15well, you see, the Ironworks will never be shut down, I mean, those who want to, cannot
00:10:19shut it down, it cannot, there is something stronger than them, this will cost those
00:10:23who sold it for one mark. Well, you see, Mital did not
00:10:27leave Zenica Ironworks because it was doing
00:10:30well, it left because they were not allowed to
00:10:34protect their production, they were operating
00:10:37negatively, they made losses,
00:10:40hmm, we then, then the government should have, when
00:10:44there was Mital's proposal to be handed over, sold, taken over,
00:10:47normally, something needed to be done, it was not done, whoever bought it,
00:10:51that's their right, I'm not going into that part, but what...
00:10:55"I want to say, who brought Mital, that is, the Ironworks, to that
00:10:58stage, who gave that Ironworks for one mark, those who now mostly
00:11:02attack something there, criticize something, just wait,
00:11:06you destroyed, you shut down the Ironworks 20
00:11:08years ago, when they sold it 15 years ago, they had already destroyed
00:11:12it then, shut it down and it was only barely surviving as long as it had
00:11:15certain incentives, at one point it all stopped,
00:11:19normally it came to the stage, as they say, no
00:11:23infusion, almost dripping out." You criticize political
00:11:26opponents that they actually build their campaign on
00:11:30uh bad uh
00:11:33comments, at the expense of opponents, so what do you build yours on? Here
00:11:36the People's Strength Party,
00:11:40uh, dash Ramosak, obviously
00:11:44you build on your own name, well, I don't build on my own name,
00:11:48I build on the deeds I have done, which I believe, I mean not me
00:11:51but those around me believe that... the
00:11:55citizens recognized that, you see,
00:11:57I came, you see, just as that Zenica Ironworks was
00:12:01shut down by those who ruled for 30 years, they
00:12:04shut down the Federal Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Police Administration, it was
00:12:08the goal of those same ones from that political option we mentioned who
00:12:12voted against, for that institution to be shut down, at one
00:12:15meeting, I will not name him normally, how do you mean to shut down, who would
00:12:19take over, no, no, to shut down completely, for it not to exist,
00:12:22for it not to exist, that is the Federal Police
00:12:25the meeting that it is their goal for that to happen and
00:12:29then an Isak Hramom comes who rolls up his sleeves, gathers a good team, not
00:12:33publicly, gathers a good team, sits down with that team of people
00:12:36and sees what the priorities are, sits down with the union, sees what the
00:12:40priorities are, what the union stated they believe or would
00:12:43like me to do in four years, can you imagine in four years,
00:12:47here sits one of those employees, I did in six
00:12:50months what, meaning what they expected from me in four years, I did in
00:12:54six months. The institution that had the lowest salaries, I brought it to an institution that
00:12:58has the highest salaries in Bosnia and Herzegovina, an institution that had no equipment,
00:13:01I brought it to an institution that has, well, we can't say the best, but by far
00:13:05the best again, is it, is that actually the result of your political power given that
00:13:09you were that hand that was crucial for the government
00:13:13or the result of work, I think it is, I think it is still the result
00:13:17of work, because you see, power is useless if you have no ideas,
00:13:20power is useless if you don't have this
00:13:24team of people around you who will... recognize what is needed, imagine the special
00:13:27unit of the Federal Police Administration has not had its own premises for 30 years,
00:13:31I, together with my team and normally the government whom I need to
00:13:34thank for supporting me, you see I would be unfair if I did not
00:13:38praise that government that supported me when I asked for certain things,
00:13:41I secured a barracks
00:13:45of 140 dunams which, here now I am currently investing four something million,
00:13:49I secured together with that team
00:13:52of people 4 million for a helicopter that
00:13:56has been in the hangar for 25 years, imagine the
00:13:59shame of that government that someone keeps a helicopter that could put out fires,
00:14:03the same one that was paid 35 million in Sarajevo, I don't
00:14:06mean the same identical one, but of those qualities that
00:14:10meets all those needs, two recumbent patients,
00:14:13transfer of 16, 12 to 16 special forces and so
00:14:17on, that means I secured 4 million, new
00:14:21uniforms, I came this morning to the building with police officers in new uniforms.
00:14:25New weapons, briefly for the end, let's go back a little more to
00:14:28the People's Strength Party, the CIK at the beginning of
00:14:31June, uh, sanctioned you by
00:14:34actually preventing you from having lists for the state level
00:14:38due to a lack of valid signatures, then there was information that
00:14:4220 to 25 signatures on those
00:14:45lists were actually the signature of one person, did you ever find
00:14:49out who did that, no one did, that is not accurate information, that
00:14:53is disinformation, do you want to say that the CIK received instructions, you see
00:14:57here was a meeting, here I will tell you now, here your media reported
00:15:01this, there was a meeting where all media reported this, yes, but not that part, this
00:15:04more important part, this more important part, they reported everything else, but not this, there was
00:15:08a meeting where it was allegedly agreed that I should be the Minister
00:15:11of Security, allegedly, I am not confirming anything, that means that I should be
00:15:15the Minister of Security, in this current mandate, to replace the current minister,
00:15:19in this, in this mandate it was agreed for after
00:15:22the elections what will happen, so a majority was formed and
00:15:26it was agreed that I should be the Minister of Security and there some
00:15:29people sat down and said, you see what he did to us as a federal minister, imagine when
00:15:33he sits as the Minister of Security of Bosnia and what will happen then, is that a criticism or
00:15:37praise? Well, praise, praise for my work, normally
00:15:41criticism, their criticism for their people who did nothing
00:15:45and then it was said, we must find a way
00:15:48so that he does not have a state
00:15:52representative, because everyone knew the number of votes I
00:15:55get, if you have that information, if you claim that those signatures
00:15:58are not falsified, I filed a, well, I, you see,
00:16:02everything you want to say now, I already did, that means I filed an appeal with the
00:16:06Constitutional Court, everything that is in accordance with the law, I did, that
00:16:10means, I used all my legal possibilities, I am waiting,
00:16:14if the decisions are in your favor, you will be without
00:16:17a candidacy for the state parliament, we can, we will perhaps go to court, if there are
00:16:20elements, that means I am not , if there are elements that certain
00:16:24people in the CIK committed a criminal offense, I am ready to sign criminal
00:16:28charges, that means I am not running away from anyone, as much as it is proven that what
00:16:31the CIK claims is true, you see, what the CIK claims is not true,
00:16:35because it cannot be true and... "if you do not act in accordance with the law,
00:16:39follow me carefully, if you have established 51 invalid
00:16:42signatures, that means the law
00:16:45states the following, that you are obliged, that means that you
00:16:49provide me with 48
00:16:52hours to provide those 51 signatures that
00:16:56are allegedly not in order, that means you are obliged to provide me with that, you
00:17:00did not act in accordance with the rulebook, in accordance with
00:17:03the law, that speaks, 51 rather than 20 to 25,
00:17:0651." We received the official document, so that means what someone
00:17:10says, media, some arrogant
00:17:13people who until yesterday were in political options, now sit in the CIK and their instructions
00:17:17are known, what they say in cafes and other places, it
00:17:21is irrelevant, what is on the document is important, the document states that
00:17:2551 signatures are allegedly not in order, not that they are
00:17:28forged, but allegedly not in order, and listen to me carefully, who are they to do that, I
00:17:32did it, a check is someone who checks, of course, well, there are no, well, you see, how
00:17:36they check the science. Do they have a graphologist, no, well, bravo,
00:17:39that means you see, we immediately came to the answer that they are lying
00:17:43that they are trying to mislead the public, they wanted to harm me,
00:17:47you see, they wanted me not to be, but you know what
00:17:50happens, whenever someone wanted me not to
00:17:53be something, with the help of the one above,
00:17:55certain things happen, so you will be the Minister of Security in the next, I don't
00:17:59know if I will be, I don't know if I will be
00:18:02this, well, let me tell you for your
00:18:05information, many political options call me to give them
00:18:08normal support for their state lists and in return
00:18:12they are ready to concede certain things, because they believe that I
00:18:16do this job well, here I invite you as one of
00:18:20the more serious media, a media that is really well followed in
00:18:23the entire area of Bosnia and Herzegovina and beyond, to
00:18:27analyze what has been done in the last 30 years, what has been done in
00:18:31my three-year mandate, when you analyze that, I invite you
00:18:34there
00:18:36to decide. Ready 30 years ago and now for three years and you know
00:18:40what information you will get, that I together with my team
00:18:43of people have done more in three years than all of them combined in
00:18:4730, for such people to criticize me, no, behind me stand
00:18:50deeds, behind me stands, behind me stands what
00:18:53is called good working conditions,
00:18:56employees of the institution I lead go to work
00:19:00happy in the morning, today I had a commission that was not satisfied with
00:19:04certain things and they leave my office and say:
00:19:07"Minister, we are going happy now to our workplaces,"
00:19:10that is my goal, I do for other people what I want, still,
00:19:14however, our time for discussion is up, thank you for being our guest, there will be an opportunity
00:19:17to continue where we left off, thank you, it is my pleasure, thank you
00:19:21and I will always respond, because I believe that you do this job professionally, the Minister
00:19:25of Internal Affairs of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Ramo Lisak, was with us, we will briefly
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