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00:00:00plant that shows that this plant did not absorb
00:00:04any heavy metals or other dangerous compounds, so
00:00:07it is in the immediate vicinity, a landfill, which means immediate vicinity, what is that radius? Well, I think
00:00:11it's about a hundred meters distance from 50
00:00:15to a hundred meters
00:00:18from
00:00:20the landfill.
00:00:28We heard... Runoslav Capak, we are here, we are
00:00:32in Ličke Vode, where we continue the conversation with
00:00:35Katarina Rukavina, Mrs. Rukavina, good day
00:00:39to you, of course, the citizens, but also the entire public in
00:00:43Croatia are interested in how often these analyses are performed
00:00:46and what is tested, who performs these
00:00:50analyses? Good day to you, we
00:00:53perform analyses regularly according to our annual sampling
00:00:56plan, for example, we are currently talking about small
00:01:00analyses for Gospić and Otočac, in
00:01:03Gospić, small A analyses are performed four times a month,
00:01:07which is about 15 samples per week, for example,
00:01:10while in Otočac it is two times a month, eight
00:01:13locations and the locations are mm
00:01:17arranged to cover the entire mm water supply
00:01:20network. Analyses are performed by the Institute of Public
00:01:23Health of the Lika-Senj County and the Croatian Institute of Public
00:01:26Health, and all analyses are immediately upon
00:01:30receipt by the competent institutions published on our websites.
00:01:33mhm, if you can just explain what
00:01:36small analyses are, i.e., what is
00:01:39consensus on tested with them? Well, small A analyses are regular
00:01:42analyses that we do, there are additional analyses
00:01:46that we will introduce, mm,
00:01:49specifically now about this whole situation, in
00:01:52coordination with the competent institutes,
00:01:55we will introduce monitoring of, or monitoring
00:01:59of para... parameters that were elevated at the illegal
00:02:03waste dump, these are
00:02:05lead, zinc, copper,
00:02:08mm, antimony, PFAS will be
00:02:11done, mm, and we also added chromium,
00:02:15and iron, manganese and aluminum will continue to be monitored,
00:02:18this is monitored every month at the sources,
00:02:21so that today in the morning
00:02:24hours, the first samples were taken, mm,
00:02:28it will continue to be monitored, and
00:02:30regularly continuously, everything depends
00:02:34on hydrological and meteorological conditions,
00:02:38so in, I don't know, in periods of severe droughts,
00:02:41samples will be taken, also after heavy rains,
00:02:45everything that can affect it, well, there's a lot of talk
00:02:48about it now, everyone says that the water is microbiologically
00:02:52sound, however, if I understood correctly, the water has not been
00:02:55tested for these PFAS compounds until now,
00:02:59that is, that testing was performed
00:03:02once a year precisely because of that, the citizens of
00:03:05Otočac complained that the
00:03:09last analysis was performed in April of this year. What about
00:03:12Gospić? The water is microbiologically
00:03:14sound, as for PFAS, we have been
00:03:18obliged to monitor PFAS in sources
00:03:22since January 12 of this year,
00:03:24source monitoring is performed once a year according
00:03:28to the Water Services Act, so
00:03:32we do it in accordance with that, the last analysis in Otočac
00:03:35was done in April, that's when the source monitoring
00:03:39was planned, that's why the last PFAS
00:03:43analyses were done then. And here in
00:03:46Gospić, an extraordinary analysis was done in March
00:03:50at the Mrđenovac source,
00:03:53the distribution shaft in the center where the
00:03:57Mrđenovac water mixes was taken,
00:04:00mm, PFAS were not
00:04:04detected, they were also not detected in the analysis from
00:04:08April in Otočac. Will these PFAS analyses
00:04:12be done more often now? Yes, well, as I said, we are starting
00:04:16with increased monitoring, all
00:04:19in agreement with the competent institutions. After
00:04:22the expert findings, were tests for PFAS
00:04:26compounds done here in Gospić?
00:04:29Well, in our jurisdiction
00:04:32is only mm water from the public
00:04:35water supply system which is not related to that expertise
00:04:39and no analyses were done on water
00:04:42from the water supply system so I
00:04:46don't have information on that,
00:04:48the result was a heavy fiasco, meaning that in the water that the citizens of Gospić
00:04:51drink, no analysis for PFAS compounds
00:04:54has been done now, it was done in March,
00:04:57samples were taken today that will be continuously monitored,
00:05:01how long does it take for samples from Zagreb
00:05:05to reach you, how long does the analysis take? Well,
00:05:09it depends, this is done by the Croatian Institute of Public Health.
00:05:12So we immediately upon receiving their findings
00:05:15publish them on our websites. Thank you very much
00:05:19for this conversation.
00:05:22We heard what Ličke Vode has to say. Interesting
00:05:26answers, we certainly remain, we are following this
00:05:28story.
00:05:31Yes, thank you Katarina. It was absolutely interesting to hear that the last
00:05:34analysis, if I understood correctly, for PFAS compounds in Gospić
00:05:37was done five
00:05:39months ago.
00:05:56And as usually happens, the ecological crisis, this time ecological
00:05:59in Gospić, completely shook the political scene,
00:06:03but also caused a new rift in the opposition, Most's attempt to
00:06:06unite the opposition and initiate the recall of the government, failed miserably, no one
00:06:10came to the meeting in the Parliament.
00:06:12While the opposition tries to agree on joint action, Prime Minister
00:06:16Plenković accuses them of being hysterical and spreading
00:06:19panic, and that the citizens of Gospić do not need to worry, more
00:06:23in Nataša Vidaković's report.
00:06:26Prime Minister, would you drink water there? We
00:06:29trust the Croatian Institute of Public Health, citizens of Gospić,
00:06:33you can be, according to the information given to us by Mr. Capak, when it
00:06:37comes to water quality in Gospić, calm, it is
00:06:40of good quality and not endangered. That is the Prime Minister's message to the concerned citizens
00:06:44of Gospić, and 37,000 tons
00:06:47of ecotoxic waste buried in the Lika soil activated the strongest
00:06:51political bomb this year, giving the Prime Minister a reason to
00:06:54urgently gather coalition partners for a video
00:06:58meeting from Banski Dvori, he arrived before journalists with a clear plan. The problem
00:07:01of dangerous waste in Gospić will be dissected by the government on three levels. The first
00:07:05level is judicial, the head of government shifts the blame to
00:07:08institutions and reminds that the problem is not from yesterday. The period
00:07:12that DORH is dealing with regarding incriminated
00:07:16actions is approximately the period of the last five or six years, not
00:07:19only will they be held accountable in criminal proceedings, but the
00:07:23state will later, in accordance with the law, turn to them in criminal proceedings
00:07:27and seek financial compensation
00:07:30for conducting remediation. The next level concerns
00:07:34the key demands of citizens and local authorities in Gospić, operations
00:07:37and site remediation through a repeated public call until August
00:07:4125. All will be coordinated by the Ministry of Environmental
00:07:44Protection, and assistance in waste management will also be sought
00:07:48from European countries. At the external level, out of a total of
00:07:5137 tons, 32 tons
00:07:55are buried at the location of the former
00:07:59PKK Velebit. And
00:08:01these 5 tons that are on the surface,
00:08:05for them, that public call is currently open. We believe that
00:08:08this time interested companies
00:08:12will respond. The third level was reserved for political
00:08:15confrontation. This context clearly describes what
00:08:19hysteria is about, what all that energy
00:08:22is about in the middle of summer, from the opposition and some other actors,
00:08:25so as not to create some fabricated
00:08:29emergency situation. And now we told you that the drinking water is
00:08:32fine according to the standards of the Croatian
00:08:35Institute of Public Health. People are scared and
00:08:39want solutions, solutions are not found. hysteria
00:08:43is created by the opposition for its political interests.
00:08:46The response from the left came immediately. Sandra Benčić
00:08:49rejects accusations of politicking and says that the government is trying
00:08:53to hide its own inertia behind long-standing investigations. While I
00:08:57was watching him with you, I was receiving
00:09:00dozens and dozens of messages from citizens and
00:09:03people who are following this, what is this.
00:09:07That's how a prime minister addresses
00:09:10his citizens. "In times
00:09:13of serious crisis, I think all citizens should see this address
00:09:17of his, that we can say that he is
00:09:20no longer prime minister, after this he cannot have legitimacy, the press
00:09:24conference of Prime Minister Andrej Plenković is something
00:09:27most shameful that has been seen in Croatian politics in recent years,
00:09:31in public, so it's unheard of
00:09:34in such a situation,
00:09:37he starts the press conference by accusing the opposition of politicking,
00:09:41of stirring up hysteria." "Listing bureaucratic
00:09:44alleged successes of his government, but while the government and the Homeland
00:09:47Movement discuss remediation, the opposition front suffered a complete
00:09:51collapse on St. Mark's Square, the Most party tried to take the helm
00:09:55of the crisis and unite the opposition to overthrow the government,
00:10:00literally no one showed up at the meeting they urgently
00:10:03called. We will not call anyone out
00:10:07today, it is not the time for that, we will only say that we are
00:10:10sorry, and... we will continue
00:10:13to systematically deal with this issue
00:10:17as we have done so far. Dado
00:10:20Milinović said that he never participated, that he was not
00:10:24a prefect or mayor during
00:10:27Šinsek's time, which is a notorious lie, it is
00:10:30a notorious lie that the Chief State Attorney's Office and USKOK probably
00:10:34want to cover up now because they are protecting Ćorić, and why
00:10:38are they protecting them both, because the question arises whether they both
00:10:42participated together in certain machinations in
00:10:45Plitvice Lakes? Most are, they are ridiculous, unfortunately, I will
00:10:49say this about Most, what is ridiculous on the left, we can, it is
00:10:53on the so-called... artificial right-wingers,
00:10:57Most, which is otherwise a plant that
00:11:00destroys everything in Dalmatia, Dalmatians know that, so Tročko
00:11:03also wants to destroy an investigation that is going in the right
00:11:06direction, pushing some things
00:11:10towards me, from the DP, like the Prime Minister, they assure that the majority
00:11:13is stable, unlike the bickering of the opposition, given that we have
00:11:17therefore an open public call until August 25th, we
00:11:20are willing to wait another two weeks, those two weeks will
00:11:23pass quickly, and after that we expect that other modalities such
00:11:27as a negotiating settlement will
00:11:31be approached. And while the opposition tries to agree on
00:11:34joint action, Prime Minister Plenković keeps his distance from
00:11:38the crisis location. Are you planning to go to Lika and perhaps talk to those
00:11:41people? We want to and we will do it, when we decide
00:11:45it's the right moment. While the Prime Minister waits for the right moment to visit
00:11:48Lika, the opposition once again drowned in bickering and failed
00:11:52meetings, the political war around Gospić continues.
00:11:55Nataša Vidaković, N1,
00:11:58Zagreb.
00:12:00We heard in the report part of Prime Minister Plenković's messages, he particularly
00:12:04referred today to the opposition, which he considers hysterical
00:12:07in the middle of the tourist
00:12:09season.
00:12:12This context clearly describes what
00:12:15hysteria is about, what all that energy
00:12:18is about in the middle of summer, from the opposition and some other actors,
00:12:21so as not to create some fabricated
00:12:25emergency situation, do you think the citizens of Gospić
00:12:29wanted to hear all this you said today, because if we go back to this
00:12:32part about remediation, apart from confronting political opponents, you actually
00:12:36said nothing new, except they were ordered to
00:12:39speed up,
00:12:41as for the citizens of Gospić, the message to them is first
00:12:45not to succumb to panic, hysteria,
00:12:48fabrication, as the opposition and their prominent
00:12:52leaders do, so suddenly in the middle of summer, so... So,
00:12:55I will explain the context again, public opinion polling
00:12:59trends, a slowed rate of inflation, investment
00:13:02credit rating, practically full employment, a brilliant
00:13:06tourist season, there is a problem that has been going on here
00:13:09for several years, thanks to our
00:13:12initiative, due to the principle of transparency,
00:13:15the report of the Geotechnical Faculty was published, as you read
00:13:19it, citizens read it, everyone else reads it, the opposition
00:13:23also reads it, and tries to profit from it. As for the citizens of Gospić,
00:13:26the Croatian Institute of Public Health will report on water quality
00:13:30every three days, the ministry is scared because
00:13:33of the hysteria created by the opposition for its political interests,
00:13:37the difference in the initiatives in that area, they have been reacting
00:13:41for some time before the opposition, the opposition joined last, well, the opposition
00:13:45joined last, but it takes advantage, I am now addressing the opposition, and
00:13:49when it comes to the State Inspectorate, why do we still not have a Chief State Inspector,
00:13:52because Mr. Samac as acting performs the job now, why
00:13:56don't you then appoint him as Chief State Inspector, he performs the job,
00:14:00the Inspectorate works, when will we get a new Chief State Inspector, when
00:14:03we decide we need one, do you think we don't need a Chief State Inspector,
00:14:07the Inspectorate works, will
00:14:10the Inspectorate remain in this form as it is now, or will the inspection
00:14:13perhaps return to the ministries, I do not at this moment have a plan
00:14:17to dismantle the State Inspectorate, I don't know where that
00:14:20idea comes from, I ask, uh, I ask until when did you
00:14:24give yourselves a deadline to appoint a new Chief State Inspector? We didn't give ourselves
00:14:27a deadline. Do you have
00:14:30candidates? I told you, you didn't answer,
00:14:34do you have candidates? I told you, when we decide.
00:14:38Does Minister Vučković have your trust? Yes,
00:14:41why wouldn't she? What is happening?
00:14:45Why? Look, I have to repeat
00:14:49once again, it's summer, the context is
00:14:52as it is, waste has been dumped there for six years.
00:14:56Waste disposal was stopped more than a year and a half ago, as far as I
00:14:59understand, at the end of 2024 or at the latest at the beginning of 2025.
00:15:03The criminal proceedings are underway, the remediation process is
00:15:06underway, a transparent report of the Geotechnical
00:15:09Faculty was published as part of the investigations conducted by DORH, so
00:15:13everything is available to everyone in Croatia, we have
00:15:17the criminal legal level, the remediation level, and
00:15:20the politicking, political level. The opposition will engage in
00:15:23politicking, we will engage in politics, well, it's not just about
00:15:26the opposition, people down there are worried, you know, they have been calling for this for a long
00:15:30time, the hysteria is being created by the opposition and the media who have no other topics, here
00:15:34you go, quite precisely, please, are you saying that this
00:15:37is not a serious problem, I told you that we do not underestimate the problem,
00:15:41we care about solving it, we send a truthful
00:15:45message to the citizens, that is the difference between us and them, so we will not send a message,
00:15:48people, the water will be polluted in Novalja, Karlobag and Senj, only
00:15:52someone extremely irresponsible, unserious would do that,
00:15:56in the middle of the tourist season, whoever advocates for that, does not
00:16:00want good for Croatia, for Croatia or Croatian
00:16:02tourism,
00:16:05we also heard this part of the Prime Minister's speech in which he accused the opposition
00:16:09several times of hysterizing, fabricating, and all of that,
00:16:13he repeated it several times in the middle of the tourist season, which
00:16:16obviously bothers him a lot. Let's go now to Zabok where colleague Maja
00:16:20Štrbac is with the guest, the president of the SDP, Siniša Hajdaš
00:16:24Dončić. Maja,
00:16:24please.
00:16:28Marinela, thank you, that's right. I am here with
00:16:32the leader of the largest opposition party in the Republic
00:16:35of Croatia, Siniša Hajdaš Dončić. Welcome
00:16:38to the program, thank you, good day everyone, we heard
00:16:42the words of Andrej Plenković, the Prime Minister,
00:16:44the opposition's hysterization, fabrication
00:16:47of stories, what do you say to that? Well, Mr.
00:16:50Plenković's surreal press conference every time
00:16:54he has no solution, he often has no solution, there are only
00:16:58nice stories and colorful balloons and colorful
00:17:01lies, he blames either citizens or the opposition
00:17:04or associations, so this problem was discovered
00:17:08thanks to associations and brave people in Lika-Senj County,
00:17:11it showed that the waste management system in Croatia does not
00:17:15work, it is simply impossible and incomprehensible that
00:17:1837,000 tons of garbage or 1,500 trucks and
00:17:22trailers are brought to Gospić, not only to Gospić, as I
00:17:26talked to some associations, with Mr. Bezjak,
00:17:30for example, from Senj, who confirmed to me that these
00:17:33trucks ended up elsewhere, I ask the question whether Croatia is
00:17:37a mafia state, whether at the
00:17:40head of the state is a mafioso or
00:17:43the Prime Minister, all those who participated in this
00:17:46dirty work have one common
00:17:49trait, namely, both the county prefect of that county, and the head of department, and the person
00:17:52who issued the permits, as well as the Chief
00:17:56State Inspector, and the Prime Minister have
00:17:59HDZ membership cards, so my story begins and ends there,
00:18:02someone allowed that, then instead of for the first
00:18:06time... to humble himself, to be
00:18:09humble, to show that he is prime minister, to say, ok, errors happened in the
00:18:12system, this is a matter of national threat, I have
00:18:16some solutions, so instead of saying what that
00:18:19solution is, what the deadlines are, who is responsible for remediation, now first it
00:18:23needs to be remediated, he hysterizes and attacks the opposition
00:18:26and associations and citizens of Lika-Senj County, so that is
00:18:30simply scandalous, so his press conference today
00:18:34is scandalous, but that is actually Andrej Plenković and people
00:18:37must recognize him, a person who tries to calm down passions
00:18:41with his polished language that do not
00:18:45exist, a person who in principle manages Croatia
00:18:48with tokens and a person who is bad for Croatia, so a person who
00:18:52has no vision, a person who actually doesn't know what he's doing, except to
00:18:55satisfy his narrow particular interests,
00:18:58the interests of his political party, for them one thing is important, what is important
00:19:02to them is to stay in power, so they can continue to steal, so they can poison people, that
00:19:06is Andrej Plenković.
00:19:09Most representatives today at noon tried to
00:19:12hold a meeting of opposition representatives, but that
00:19:16turned into a press conference, how come the SDP was not present?
00:19:20I talked to Mr. Grmoja yesterday, so
00:19:22by phone, I said that we will come to
00:19:26Gospić for the committee meeting, that is the first step for us, so at
00:19:30the committee meeting for environmental protection, concrete demands
00:19:33can actually be made, after that, kudos to
00:19:36everyone. The SDP is the only party in the Croatian Parliament that has the power by the number
00:19:40of representatives to initiate any initiative and I think it is good, kudos to
00:19:44everyone for the opposition parties that want to, so
00:19:48join us, we can, so our initiative that will be
00:19:51in autumn when we started now, that is actually
00:19:54the recall of Andrej Plenković. So, I don't want
00:19:58it's not fair, so that some other opposition parties now
00:20:01use their moment, I'm not talking about Mr. Troskot here and with
00:20:05various letters calling for unity.
00:20:07The opposition needs to know that the SDP is the largest
00:20:11opposition party, that it cooperates with the left opposition,
00:20:14we also cooperate very well with Možemo and with Dalija Orešković, with
00:20:17Ms. Puljak, and with some other representatives, we have our own,
00:20:21so to speak, political story, what I called
00:20:25for and I don't want that, I will be very clear, I praised Mr.
00:20:28Troskot who held, who sought, who investigated, who
00:20:32invested a lot of energy, so in uncovering this true truth
00:20:36about uh... "I will say colossal damage that was
00:20:39inflicted on Croatia, so I do not dispute that at all, but people
00:20:43must know that the SDP is the largest Croatian political party that has the largest
00:20:47number of mandates that actually the entire..." dynamics
00:20:50will depend on the SDP and on the agreement between the SDP and Možemo, I say, I invited
00:20:53everyone to join because this is a transnational issue, I mean,
00:20:57I have no problem with Most being in this issue with us, but I
00:21:01always have a small reservation towards Most, and that is that Most
00:21:04twice brought HDZ to power in Croatia, so we must be
00:21:08careful, but on this issue we can cooperate
00:21:10together. You just said that you
00:21:14politically disagree with Most, that the opposition is not united,
00:21:18that is, we have left and right, which
00:21:20is the most normal thing, but this is not a regular issue, this is not an issue
00:21:24in which one should politicize, in which it should be important who is left
00:21:28and who is right, because we are talking about
00:21:30national water, we are talking about people's safety,
00:21:34we are talking about people who are really living in fear, so isn't it time now to
00:21:37cast off those chains of politics that ultimately
00:21:41led us to delay , that is, to postpone
00:21:44for so long, the remediation of such a
00:21:48situation, for that situation. The situation is the sole responsibility of the Government of the Republic
00:21:51of Croatia, so the SDP very constructively two days ago
00:21:55proposed a whole set of measures on how we would remediate
00:21:58this damage, so in agreement with the Austrian
00:22:02institute in agreement with our experts from the council, so we offered this as
00:22:06our public solution, and as for your first
00:22:09question, yes, I also told you a few minutes ago that this is
00:22:12a transnational issue, that this is not an issue where left and right are divided
00:22:15and I praised Mr. Troskot, but I also
00:22:19said: "that the SDP is the largest opposition political party that
00:22:22actually in conversation with us, I believe that we can all
00:22:26reach a common
00:22:29how and in what way we will introduce the story into parliamentary
00:22:32parliamentary procedure, I have no problem with that, I said, wasn't this an opportunity to achieve
00:22:36that, well, we will do that now, I talked to Mr. Grmoj, well,
00:22:39I told you and I said very nicely that we should meet on Friday in Gospić and
00:22:43that we will talk at the committee, after the committee, we will see how it
00:22:46will end, we will, together with the people who want to initiate an initiative in
00:22:50the parliament, so I really have no problem with that, the Prime Minister said
00:22:53that on Friday parliamentary representatives
00:22:57of the parliamentary majority will come there, what do you expect from that meeting? Well, parliamentary
00:23:01representatives are paid to do their job and I think that for 4,500
00:23:04euros of parliamentary salary, they must come to their workplace,
00:23:08their workplace is the committee, so the committee as well as the parliamentary
00:23:11session is actually the workplace of parliamentary representatives,
00:23:15so we will see how the parliamentary representatives from HDZ or DP will
00:23:19behave, we will as always be
00:23:22constructive regarding the consequences, how to remediate the damage
00:23:25caused, but also what I said that the SDP will, I hope that the
00:23:29rest of the opposition will join us, because I did not notice
00:23:33any dissenting voices from Mr. Grmoja, that he will
00:23:37join us, so in the attempt to recall Andrej
00:23:40Plenković, because I personally consider him
00:23:43responsible, so for this crime of poisoning people, because he
00:23:46chose the Chief State Inspector who received bribes. He is his
00:23:50friend, he is his buddy, the former president of the city organization
00:23:53of HDZ of the city of Zagreb, people must know that. Well, the position of Chief
00:23:57State Inspector is still vacant. Today, the Prime Minister
00:24:01also commented on that, and he said that when they agree, then they will
00:24:04agree, he didn't want to give a clear answer,
00:24:08he didn't even give a deadline, we still have a person
00:24:11in that position as acting, so what do you think about that,
00:24:15is it such an important, that is, unimportant function as it was
00:24:19somehow
00:24:21presented to the public today, well that is the real Andrej Plenković, when you
00:24:25ask him about deadlines, when you ask him about delivery, he runs away, he bows and he runs away, so he is
00:24:29a person who is not operative, so he
00:24:32when he decides because he's faking, I can't say what he's
00:24:35faking, so he thinks that he should decide who will
00:24:39be the chief state inspector, I think that the chief state inspector should have been appointed six
00:24:43months ago, it is a very responsible function,
00:24:46let's call it a function that actually needs to prevent such...
00:24:50to use a harsh word, I wanted to say something starting with "s", but like this
00:24:54let's say the devastation of Croatian territory, so for that
00:24:57Andrej Plenković is exclusively responsible, the way he behaves towards you,
00:25:01journalists, towards citizens, towards the opposition, so that is something to be
00:25:05condemned, but that says something about him, a man without vision, a man who has no
00:25:08deliveries, he has no deliveries and a man who doesn't know what deadlines are, that is
00:25:12crucial, remember that, what is the vision of SDP's solution for this
00:25:16whole situation, we proposed, so two days ago Mr.
00:25:20Izmajlović proposed a five-step solution that is completely
00:25:23different from the solution proposed by the government, so it's actually about
00:25:26mobile facilities that treat waste on site
00:25:30and after that, I'll shorten it now because it's quite a lot, so we don't go into
00:25:33the technical area, which are then dismantled and returned to their place, so this
00:25:37is not some expensive export to Austria where they completely messed up
00:25:41with the prices, meaning they inflated it to cost 4,000, it actually costs
00:25:44800, but as I say, you can see everything on our SDP
00:25:48website, that's... on our Facebook page, which are concrete things that
00:25:52only concern the profession, we actually waited for the profession to help us,
00:25:56so I say from Austria, one of the most respected universities, so they
00:25:59make an analysis of how it should work and that. I say, the SDP, besides
00:26:03criticism, is also a party that provides solutions, it's easiest to shout and
00:26:07criticize, from the beginning of my mandate I demand to have solutions for
00:26:10everything, about inflation, about pensions and about environmental protection and
00:26:14defense, every time we give solutions, every time we have some
00:26:17positions and I will continue to do so, whether you like
00:26:20it or not, so it's not just about the commotion,
00:26:24shouting, noise, it's about having concrete solutions, for people to
00:26:27trust you, that's why we are careful, cautious, because this is not
00:26:31a matter of political questions whether this is Most, whether this is
00:26:34SDP, whether this is Možemo, I said openly, I commend Mr.
00:26:37Troskot, but on the other hand, I also have apprehension towards Most, because they brought
00:26:41HDZ to power twice, that's my right, but I talk to everyone, both left and
00:26:45right. Mr. Hajdaš Dončić, thank you for your comment, thank
00:26:49you. We heard the leader of the SDP, Siniša
00:26:52Hajdaš Dončić, who says, Prime Minister
00:26:55Andrej Plenković is to blame for everything, but he hinted that the
00:26:59opposition will eventually, although it didn't seem so today,
00:27:03be agreed on Friday about the issue of
00:27:06illegal waste dumps?
00:27:10Yes, thank you Maja, to you and that guest, we will see what happens on Friday,
00:27:14whether there will be that agreement and in what way or not.
00:27:34And while public attention is rightly directed towards
00:27:37Gospić, another location from the same investigation is a little
00:27:40out of focus. It is about Benkovac, where
00:27:44USKOK investigators discovered one of the largest illegal landfills
00:27:47even before the Gospić case. The same actors are involved in the whole story,
00:27:51who are suspected of having illegally buried around
00:27:5511,000 cubic meters of shredded
00:27:57plastic at that location.
00:28:01A kilometer and a half from the center of Benkovac, investigators suspect that
00:28:04about 11,000 cubic meters of shredded plastic
00:28:08were buried, which, in order to hide what was being done, was covered with earth
00:28:12and stone aggregate. Given that the location is within
00:28:15a quarry, it is suspected that everything was done to make it look like an
00:28:19old quarry was being remediated. And so that it wouldn't
00:28:21bother us, but as far as I'm concerned, no one in Benkovac talks about it. Aren't
00:28:25you concerned? We are concerned, but it's a military secret, it shouldn't
00:28:28be talked about. HDZ is in power
00:28:31here, and so on and so forth, no one talks about
00:28:35that, but everyone knows all about it, who brought
00:28:38it, where it was brought, where it was buried, everyone knows all about it, these
00:28:42rulers of ours know it, in the city they say they had no idea
00:28:46what was happening in that area and that analyzes showed that it was
00:28:50non-hazardous waste and that there is no threat to the population,
00:28:54modus operandi is the same as in Gospić, the same investigation,
00:28:57the same suspects, the same chain of illegal
00:29:01waste imports, just a different location. I am sincerely
00:29:04surprised that it went so under the radar, that such
00:29:08quantities could have been disposed of, whether in Gospić, or in Benkovac, or in
00:29:12other locations in the Republic of Croatia, that it simply
00:29:15wasn't prevented in any way,
00:29:17obviously what I said before, I think that the law is
00:29:20too lenient in that sense. And under the radar went Josip
00:29:24Šincek, whom USKOK suspects of having buried huge quantities of waste
00:29:28from Italy, Slovenia and Croatia here between 2022 and
00:29:302024, and also obtained a construction
00:29:34permit for everything, as shown by this sign,
00:29:38very bad, very bad, what do I
00:29:41think, if that's it, then it's I think
00:29:45abnormal, do you think someone should be held responsible for this, of course,
00:29:48the government, the authorities, the authorities
00:29:51and those, those who did it, you
00:29:55are responsible for your actions in life, I for mine,
00:29:59the gentleman for his, so we all have to be responsible
00:30:03for our actions, will they publish the findings of the expert examination
00:30:06as in the Gospić case here from Benkovac, we asked
00:30:10USKOK, we still haven't received an answer, about this illegal
00:30:14landfill, we also asked the Ministry of Environmental Protection and Green
00:30:17Transition, from them there is also no answer.
00:30:21We asked for a statement from the Zadar County, which issued a construction
00:30:24permit for this location, they didn't respond to us. From
00:30:28Most, they warn about the large amount of shredded plastic around
00:30:32Lake Štika, because it directly and through groundwater participates
00:30:35in the water supply of the Lika-Senj and Zadar counties, and is
00:30:39connected to the Zrmanja River basin. Željko
00:30:42Teufel, Teufel means devil in German, Željko
00:30:46what a coincidence,
00:30:48so that is a person whom USKOK definitely needs to question
00:30:51and our question to the chief state prosecutor is
00:30:55what are they waiting for, to question him, how is it that Caesar
00:30:58dumped over...