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00:00:00The law on the internal agency is to further
00:00:03monitor homes, to monitor communications, to
00:00:06monitor the internal communication of Germans,
00:00:10in order to prevent certain
00:00:14crimes or certain attacks that could happen. This
00:00:17is mostly domestic terrorism, which is why they are doing this. They are doing this
00:00:21because in the past period they had several attacks in which they
00:00:24completely missed the mark, they absolutely had no
00:00:28information that it would happen.
00:00:31Um, this will perhaps be
00:00:34controversial in this German system
00:00:38for one reason, because we have already seen that such
00:00:40authorities, when given, were given, for example,
00:00:44to certain agencies within the United States after September
00:00:4811th, when the attacks happened, that citizens
00:00:51also sued the government, that there were mistakes and that there were
00:00:54misinterpreted information, but there were also situations
00:00:58in which, based precisely on such things, for example, some
00:01:02people who tried to carry out attacks within the United States
00:01:06were arrested and people like Bin Laden were discovered in some locations where
00:01:09it was thought they could not be found, so here the Germans
00:01:13now hope that with these changes they will create
00:01:17a better situation for themselves, of course, all to
00:01:20try, at least in the opinion of most intelligence agencies, they will not
00:01:24get close to the British James Bonds, i.e.,
00:01:27MI6, which was recently declared the best
00:01:31intelligence agency in the world. Yes, to
00:01:34conclude, the Iranian war, the events in the Middle East significantly affect the
00:01:38tourist image, but also the industry in Europe. The latest data show that
00:01:41passenger behavior has indeed
00:01:45here, guest of the new day, Dino Selimović, director
00:01:48of the International Sarajevo Airport, said that the structure of guests coming
00:01:52to Bosnia and Herzegovina has changed, that there are fewer
00:01:55travelers from the Gulf, and more from Europe.
00:01:59Well, that's what we're going to
00:02:02talk about right now, and the biggest
00:02:04uh
00:02:06that's the biggest change, and um the agency which is one of
00:02:09the biggest travel agencies in the world now says what is
00:02:13changing. Passengers wait until the last minute to decide
00:02:17on travel depending on
00:02:20how many available
00:02:23published by USKOK show that in tickets and flights and everything there are. We have already received information from
00:02:26the International Energy Agency that
00:02:30be, we will forget there is less oil on the market, which means less kerosene,
00:02:33which means it will be harder for flights,
00:02:35which um practically means
00:02:39that we have a situation where people will think, okay, where should
00:02:42I go? What has been noticed is that
00:02:46demand is growing for countries such as
00:02:49Turkey, Cyprus, Greece,
00:02:52and also our
00:02:54neighboring Croatia, but also some other
00:02:58countries such as Georgia, which was not
00:03:01so much on the map, but can be very
00:03:05interesting, and what is
00:03:08at least their information is that
00:03:11this has cost them 60 million euros so far, meaning we are talking about
00:03:15120 million marks in six months that they have
00:03:18lost on travel and the number
00:03:22of passengers is
00:03:25polluted soil that absorb these slightly smaller, about 3% less,
00:03:27uh, but that is
00:03:31a lot. Their profit before taxes is somewhere
00:03:34around 43% lower, which
00:03:37is huge, huge.
00:03:40And what will also be a big
00:03:43problem is that operational costs
00:03:47will rise, and the costs, or rather the profit they already
00:03:50expected, which they had already, so to speak, planned, will not
00:03:54be there. We saw this also in the example of the Middle East. Mr. Selimović is completely
00:03:58right, because people from this Gulf region
00:04:02the professor said, mostly on travel less, and there is also less travel
00:04:05from here to there, so that part of the world, which I will repeat again, and
00:04:09I have already said this, is not ordinary tourism, but high-end, luxury
00:04:13tourism, where, I don't know, for
00:04:16Egypt you spend 5,000 marks for two people
00:04:20in seven days, there you spend 5,000 marks for
00:04:23one night, the costs will, or rather
00:04:26How much waste do we import annually and in the damage will be huge, and all this because of something that
00:04:29has not yet... achieved the result that those who started this war were looking for
00:04:32and this only shows that it is not just one sector that is threatened,
00:04:36but all sectors are threatened. The effects will
00:04:39be very, very bad and only visible and will probably
00:04:43extend into next year. Esmir, thank you, please
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00:06:50We continue with a new day and current topics. 37,000 tons of
00:06:54hazardous waste found in Gospić, a question that could
00:06:57open a Pandora's box regarding the same issue in Bosnia and
00:07:01Herzegovina. The subject of the investigation by Croatian authorities is a company that was
00:07:05mentioned 12 years ago in connection with the delivery of waste to Derventa.
00:07:08The outcomes are not known, but now questions like what kind of waste
00:07:12is being imported. What are the controls and how much is the health of citizens threatened, are
00:07:16increasingly echoing in the public.
00:07:19Illegal delivery and disposal of waste in Gospić began in
00:07:222021. According to the suspicions of the local investigative bodies,
00:07:25the criminal group was organized by Varaždin entrepreneur Josip
00:07:28Šincek. Although the waste was presented as plastic material intended
00:07:32for recycling, the results of the investigations and findings
00:07:36the investigated area, approximately 37 tons of mixed
00:07:39technogenic waste were estimated, including residues of electrical and
00:07:43electronic equipment, plastics, construction, mineral materials, and
00:07:46parts of medical waste. Although it has not been determined that the entire quantity
00:07:50is contaminated, representative samples show harmful
00:07:53properties. I must mention that it is known that the fund and the ministry were not
00:07:57legally responsible for such remediation. We promptly
00:08:01approached the amended waste management plan in the seventh month of last
00:08:04year, where the fund was given the task of securing funds. There were
00:08:07investigative processes when we got the opportunity to start
00:08:11remediation in November. Last year, the decision on remediation was made.
00:08:14The environmental affair, however, crosses the borders of Croatia and reaches Bosnia and Herzegovina
00:08:18in 2014. The company Tipos Resors, led by
00:08:22the Xincag spouses, delivered about a hundred tons of waste to a company in Derventa
00:08:26that was classified as mixed non-hazardous. However, the environmental
00:08:29inspection of the Republic of Srpska found medical waste in it, which is
00:08:33prohibited by regulations. Because of this, a certain amount was returned to the Croatian
00:08:36company, and the authorities there then explicitly claimed that there was no
00:08:39danger to people or the environment, stating that about
00:08:4340 tons had been returned to Croatia. Where that quantity ended up and what happened to the remaining
00:08:4760 tons is unknown. The Derventa case became even
00:08:51more serious due to the fact that the disputed shipment was not the only one.
00:08:54The results of the investigation are also unknown. Waste management
00:08:57is again in the public spotlight. The only waste that is legally imported
00:09:01to us is actually processed
00:09:04waste converted into fuel, that is what is
00:09:07imported for the needs of two cement plants in this in
00:09:11Bosnia and Herzegovina. That is RDF, as far as I know,
00:09:14about 60,000 tons have been imported. In Bosnia and
00:09:17Herzegovina, illegal waste is certainly imported as well, but these flows are
00:09:21almost impossible to track, says Lemeš. Such cases
00:09:24certainly exist in Bosnia and Herzegovina given the porous
00:09:28borders and given the lack of capacity of our
00:09:32institutions to carry out control, especially
00:09:35laboratory control.
00:09:39what way are controls carried out? We also asked the Indirect Taxation Authority of Bosnia
00:09:42and Herzegovina, but with extensive documentation on cross-border
00:09:46waste traffic and competencies in accordance with this issue, we did not
00:09:50receive concrete answers. In the meantime, the number of ecological
00:09:54hotspots in Bosnia and Herzegovina is growing, and the first map was published by UNDP. Through
00:09:57a review of more than a hundred potentially contaminated locations in Bosnia and
00:10:01Herzegovina, 48 priority locations were selected
00:10:04for sampling. Based on more than 700 analyses of soil,
00:10:08water, and sediment samples, the results showed significant
00:10:11ecological risks at 34 locations, so
00:10:14primarily we have a problem that has been going on for several decades
00:10:17with the tar apple in Modriča. This is a type
00:10:21of hazardous waste that has been stored there.
00:10:25which has already created, so to speak,
00:10:28problems whose magnitude is not at all known today for the local
00:10:32population. We remind you that houses were built there,
00:10:35settlements were developed and expanded. This
00:10:39hazardous waste has remained there
00:10:42to stand. A similar situation is with Piralen in the Incel business zone
00:10:46in Banja Luka. Today we have the opportunity to see that a residential
00:10:50area has been built there, which is another problem, but
00:10:54it is evident that after several decades, that
00:10:58problem, that area has not been remediated and that problem has not been solved. And as long as
00:11:02the state does not have a clear plan on how to deal with this challenge, the potential
00:11:05dangers to the health of citizens are growing every
00:11:09day. At the same time, waste trafficking is becoming an attractive activity
00:11:13for criminal structures, which, as they are aware, could not operate
00:11:16without a political connection. Tatjana Drljić,
00:11:19N1.
00:11:23The affair involving tens of thousands of tons of illegally disposed waste, which has shaken
00:11:26Croatia in recent days, seems to be connected with Bosnia and Herzegovina. During
00:11:302014, the company, as we heard, Pramat Plast, imported
00:11:3423 shipments with a total of about 358 tons
00:11:37of waste with disputed
00:11:40documentation into Bosnia and Herzegovina. The company had documentation for cross-border import
00:11:43of non-hazardous waste. It imported medical waste, about 40
00:11:47tons returned to Croatia and placed under customs supervision. What about
00:11:51the rest? In the new day, we continue with Samir Lemeš, before
00:11:56Zenica. Good morning and welcome to the new day. Good morning, thank you for the
00:11:59invitation. Thank you, Igor Kalaba from the Center for Environmental Protection
00:12:03who is waiting for us in Banja Luka. Mr. Kalaba, good
00:12:06morning to you. Good morning, greetings to your
00:12:09viewers and a big hello to Professor Lemeš.
00:12:13Let's start with the latest story, or rather the scandal,
00:12:16as Mr. Lemeš has already called it. How much do you
00:12:20believe it is likely that the waste we are talking about
00:12:24in Lika is waste that was once
00:12:27in Bosnia and Herzegovina? Well, those are, those are purely
00:12:31speculations. It doesn't matter at all whether it's that waste,
00:12:34whether those are those specific quantities. The thing is
00:12:37that here we don't have investigations to determine,
00:12:41except for this project that UNDP did, where they tried
00:12:44to map these hotspots,
00:12:48there is no, no action to discover these
00:12:52hotspots, to discover perpetrators, especially not
00:12:55their prosecution. Here the question is perhaps for
00:12:58the Prosecutor's Office of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, because
00:13:02according to the waste management law, whoever illegally
00:13:06imports hazardous waste,
00:13:09is exposed to the risk of a prison sentence of one to five years
00:13:13in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Since environmental laws exist,
00:13:17since the crime of environmental pollution was included
00:13:20in the criminal code, we have only one,
00:13:24one case where the prosecutor's office
00:13:26prosecuted such a crime.
00:13:30It is about Gikil Lukavac where the main perpetrator left
00:13:34the country, all other criminal acts are actually just
00:13:37those forest thefts, and Mr. Kalava, how many
00:13:41such places, landfills, areas that
00:13:44the professor talks about, which surely could or should have been
00:13:48under scrutiny by the prosecutor's office
00:13:50long ago?
00:13:53Well, I think, here's a relatively simple example: how many
00:13:57times have you seen, while traveling, wooden sleepers piled up
00:14:00along the tracks, old, this
00:14:03replaced ones? They are, for example,
00:14:05treated with very, very toxic chemicals, which are
00:14:09already banned in the European Union, maybe even here now, so it's very difficult
00:14:13to trace. What was done through this
00:14:16UNDP project, which Professor Lemeš mentioned, is
00:14:20that some of the largest ones were located, with
00:14:23one piece of information that is... semi- information, I got it unofficially,
00:14:27even for a larger location there was an option
00:14:30to secure funds for remediation,
00:14:33but from the institutions that should have reacted,
00:14:37there was not enough interest, so we are talking not
00:14:40only about crime, we are sometimes talking about
00:14:44incompetence or disinterest of institutions,
00:14:48uh, we have a terrible lot of generally illegal landfills, that's
00:14:51true, we have most of the official landfills.
00:14:55landfills that are legal, they are not sanitary as such and that's where
00:14:58anything ends up, from animal waste, which is the least
00:15:02problem in this context, this, but
00:15:05certainly a problem, this, even medical
00:15:08and other types of waste, this, there are also, as the professor
00:15:12said in the video before, very porous borders which are very questionable,
00:15:16I mean, they are smuggled, this, we see that people from various
00:15:19clans enter and leave the country as they please, so
00:15:23this waste should not be a big problem and also the mentioned
00:15:26incinerators that are opening, that is incineration
00:15:30currently for now we just hope that it will remain that way, for now only in
00:15:34cement plants we have this RDF refuse derived fuel, that is.
00:15:37pellets from processed waste, uh,
00:15:41they are very, they are very potentially problematic
00:15:43because not every RDF is the same and it is very questionable
00:15:47what the ingredient is there, and how declarations,
00:15:51labels are made, how this works between importers,
00:15:55exporters, freight forwarders at the borders and so on,
00:15:58again the porosity of borders is a very big problem. That's exactly why
00:16:02I asked the professor this question,
00:16:05so what if the waste on the street was waste from Bosnia and Herzegovina,
00:16:09actually focusing on cross-border
00:16:13cooperation, or rather the porosity of borders, so let's try to
00:16:16clarify that cyclical path and how it
00:16:20actually looks, how
00:16:22the procedure looks when waste from Croatia enters Bosnia and Herzegovina, and
00:16:26who must give permission, who, among other things, controls what is in
00:16:30the truck, how does that go? Uh,
00:16:33I don't know what the situation is in the Republic of Srpska and Brčko District, I assume it's
00:16:36similar. I know that according to federal regulations,
00:16:40hazardous waste cannot pass, meaning
00:16:43it legally shouldn't be able to pass, so it is then
00:16:46probably hidden in, packaged
00:16:49into some other some other waste
00:16:53packaging. Is every shipment physically inspected or does everything
00:16:57come down to documentation? Well, it's impossible to physically inspect everything, so it's mostly
00:17:00about documentation, possibly sampling if something is suspected
00:17:04to be wrong, mhm. So it's very
00:17:08difficult. Otherwise, that documentation is
00:17:10so strictly controlled. We recently had
00:17:14an example where through a project we provided humanitarian
00:17:18aid, i.e., a donation from Slovakia
00:17:21of devices for purifying drinking water, mhm. That
00:17:24shipment had to be returned to the European Union, meaning
00:17:27we paid double transport costs just because
00:17:30one sentence on the export declaration was not correct. Meaning
00:17:34instead of returning the declaration, the entire
00:17:38shipment was returned. So those customs regulations are extremely
00:17:41strict, mhm. In some cases, we can say
00:17:44that things go wrong, as in this case where there should be something of general
00:17:48interest, but where you have, that's probably when
00:17:52corruption is involved, that someone is bribed to turn a blind eye so that
00:17:56such shipments pass even through these legal border
00:17:59crossings. Is the situation the same, Mr. Kalava,
00:18:02in the Republic of Srpska? How much knowledge do you have about the Brčko
00:18:06District and has the responsibility
00:18:09of those who failed to
00:18:12determine the content of a
00:18:15truck ever been established?
00:18:20Uh, basically, I think the laws are, if you take them literally, then
00:18:2499% harmonized. Uh, I mean, I
00:18:27can speak from my personal example, since I spent three, about three or four
00:18:31months when I was finishing
00:18:34university, I spent working in a shipping company, that's
00:18:38in Gradiška. The crossing in Gradiška is one of the most significant in the country
00:18:41and busiest.
00:18:42This,
00:18:45I mean, it was all like that, and
00:18:49instead of studying
00:18:52psychology. But on the other hand, it was a very sobering moment for me
00:18:55to see how things work in this country, how
00:18:58borders work. Uh, so basically,
00:19:01I mean, we live where we live and
00:19:05everything is very flexible. If the right people
00:19:08and enough capital, unfortunately, it is still like that, you have cases, for example,
00:19:12I mean, CIN and other
00:19:16investigative portals constantly write about
00:19:18some people who have been suspended and then reinstated.
00:19:22You have people, you have sanitary inspectors,
00:19:25for example, who open a truck, among other things, not only because
00:19:29of corruption, but simply because of the nature of the job, in terms of the amount
00:19:31of material, the truck is opened, the first
00:19:35bale is checked, and things are not pulled out. and so on, it's done, as
00:19:40paper. This, I mean, one of the most
00:19:42amusing situations was when an older
00:19:45freight forwarder told me: "You see that guy in the black jumpsuit from the anti-smuggling
00:19:49team?" I said, "Yes." "Well, he used to be
00:19:52a customs officer here and was suspended for smuggling. Now they've put him back in that
00:19:55team." Everything is clear.
00:19:58And
00:20:02did you do anything about that? Can, can
00:20:06one actually, when, well, you're in the system,
00:20:09someone who is on an internship or is trying
00:20:13to learn how these flows
00:20:16work, can anything be
00:20:18done?
00:20:22Well, generally, my rule is not to end statements or addresses
00:20:25pessimistically. So, yes, it can definitely
00:20:29be done, a lot can be done, but people have to be very
00:20:31united. Again, something that can be done
00:20:35is the fight against future incinerators. Yes, that is,
00:20:38importing
00:20:40actually opens the door for manipulations, for importing
00:20:44all sorts of things, and of course, to defend as much as
00:20:47possible the ban on the import of hazardous waste. That
00:20:50for now, from a technical perspective, there is still a lot to be done,
00:20:54definitely, and it is necessary to do something with this hazardous
00:20:58waste.
00:21:00Uh, so it is not excluded that sometime some processing facilities will have to be
00:21:04built, but that would have to be done because, for example, one of the things I
00:21:08talk about, uh, whatever is done related to waste must
00:21:12be very close to larger administrative centers.
00:21:15I say this half-jokingly, it must be in the center of Banja Luka,
00:21:19this, because, well, we have seen all these cases, they were mostly,
00:21:22most of them were, this Drvar, Bosnian
00:21:25Grahovo, this, okay, Derventa is more populated and relatively
00:21:29close, so that's why they reacted relatively quickly. So,
00:21:32obviously, there is a tendency to exploit those places that
00:21:36are experiencing depopulation, which somehow overlap with perhaps some of the
00:21:39most valuable natural resources, this,
00:21:42so it is possible, but many, many people need to work harder on it, many
00:21:46people, I mean, political awareness as such, this, we
00:21:50had cases where the local community fought against either a mine or
00:21:54something else, and then they still voted for the same people who did it, so that political
00:21:57maturity must be at a much higher level,
00:22:00this, and the fight must not stop, no matter
00:22:03what, even if it seems futile. What about
00:22:07subsequent checks? Here, in this specific case, we are talking about
00:22:1023 shipments, 358
00:22:13tons, so waste. Uh, if
00:22:16one shipment, Professor Lemeš, was returned,
00:22:20does there exist any system for subsequent checking of what happened to
00:22:23the other shipments, whether they are even tracked? Well, if you say that they
00:22:27enter the country based on valid documentation, uh,
00:22:30is it tracked where they end up? Logically, someone should
00:22:33conduct an additional control.
00:22:37However, usually, in our country, those who engage in such
00:22:41crime are very connected with political structures,
00:22:44so it's simply a phone call away,
00:22:48"Let it go, don't, put it in the drawer."
00:22:52I mean, unfortunately, we live in a country where corruption has
00:22:55turned from an incident into a way of life, and it seems that
00:22:59the wider public accepts corruption as, "Oh, we know
00:23:03there's corruption, let's see how I can fit in."
00:23:06I think we need to completely change our way
00:23:09of thinking. We once had an illusion, "Look, we
00:23:13will be candidates for joining the EU, and when we join
00:23:17the EU, everything will be perfect, everything will
00:23:20about corruption." There is corruption in the European Union. 15
00:23:23years ago, at a conference, I heard information that
00:23:27the Italian mafia, well, Italy is in the European Union,
00:23:31the Italian mafia has reoriented itself from
00:23:35human trafficking, arms trafficking, and drug trafficking to waste trafficking,
00:23:38because it is more profitable for them, simply the profit is greater.
00:23:42Northern Italy generates huge quantities of waste, it is very
00:23:46expensive according to EU regulations, very expensive to dispose of that
00:23:50waste. Companies are paid to dispose of it,
00:23:53then it is taken and dumped in the south of Italy, the soil is polluted,
00:23:57the land is polluted, cheaply
00:24:00bought agricultural estates are destroyed. Now you have
00:24:03huge plantations with
00:24:07greenhouses in southern Italy. We probably eat those
00:24:10tomatoes, tomato plantations that are on
00:24:15heavy metals and all those toxins from the soil. Migrants
00:24:19who flee from Africa work on those
00:24:21plantations, so it's everything is tied to crime and
00:24:25that crime is European, so we
00:24:28somehow have an illusion that when we enter Europe, there will be no crime
00:24:32or corruption, there will, we must change ourselves, but yes, but it's interesting what
00:24:36you're saying, well, even when we talk about imports, I somehow always mention
00:24:39imports because the last affair speaks most about it,
00:24:43but, uh, if someone, professor, declares cheaper
00:24:46non-dangerous plastic waste and actually imports med...
00:24:50medical or dangerous, where is the potential profit, where is that
00:24:53logic, or is it actually
00:24:55uh that large profits are made in these
00:24:59cases precisely because the disposal of hazardous waste is
00:25:03much more expensive than the disposal of non-hazardous waste, is that the
00:25:07logic, so yes, that's pure logic, pure greed
00:25:10where people see an opportunity, look, I
00:25:13this is expensive to pay, I will
00:25:16take it and I will not dispose of it at all, no one will
00:25:20control it, if someone controls me, I will somehow
00:25:23cover it from the profit I make, so
00:25:26that somehow this sounds
00:25:30like an open invitation to people to engage in crime because there is
00:25:33really a big profit, but it is not
00:25:36actually an invitation to institutions to act, to prevent that crime, to
00:25:40cut it off, to strictly punish it, I will repeat
00:25:43that there have been no convictions for the criminal offense
00:25:46of environmental pollution, I call on the prosecutor's offices
00:25:50to roll up their sleeves a bit, to look a bit, at least to
00:25:53look at what investigative journalism is doing, to listen to what
00:25:57is being said in the media, that's enough work for them, they can put that in their
00:26:01plans for next year. For the prosecutor's offices to start
00:26:05prosecuting that crime, for the courts
00:26:08to finally make decisions, for someone
00:26:11to end up in jail for polluting the environment, for
00:26:14destroying nature and endangering the health of citizens, how difficult it is to follow
00:26:18now, we are talking about those 40 tons that may have ended up in Lika, maybe
00:26:22not, we have a lot of such examples, not only
00:26:26of imported waste, but of those that are already in Bosnia
00:26:30and Herzegovina, that was 10 years ago. today
00:26:33is the 26th. um, how
00:26:37can this be monitored, are these missed opportunities, cases where
00:26:40we have already, therefore, lost that chance.
00:26:44I will mention here the international
00:26:46convention that Bosnia and Herzegovina signed, ratified,
00:26:50incorporated into its laws, that is the Arhus
00:26:52Convention. Um, with that convention, all citizens of Bosnia and
00:26:56Herzegovina gained, among other things, the right to access
00:26:59environmental information and the right to participate. The public in
00:27:03making decisions concerning the environment,
00:27:06the public, in order to participate in decision-making, such as the decision
00:27:10whether there will be an incinerator or not, where the landfill
00:27:13will be located, how waste will be managed, such
00:27:17decisions the public can influence
00:27:21exclusively if it is informed, meaning the first
00:27:24prerequisite is that we have information, so give us
00:27:27those reports, we have civil society organizations that are very
00:27:31active. "If you give us information, if you
00:27:34provide us with information, these databases that must be publicly
00:27:38available, we will then through these databases
00:27:41look for where the problems are, point them
00:27:45out, alarm institutions, we have a lot of institutions,
00:27:48inspections, and agencies,
00:27:51prosecutor's offices, courts, meaning all of them should do their
00:27:54job, and someone needs to
00:27:57encourage them, civil society will encourage them, but give us information, and
00:28:01they are hidden like." And they are very often hidden.
00:28:05Igor, based on the currently available information,
00:28:08documentation that you have access to, both as a center for
00:28:12environmental protection and in cooperation with your
00:28:15colleagues, you have mentioned incinerators several times, what
00:28:19are the biggest hotspots, the biggest points,
00:28:22well, Professor Lemeš talked about the south of Italy, I believe we
00:28:26have enough of our own examples that should make us very
00:28:29concerned. Yes.
00:28:32Yes, we have, well, we have this situation here in Incel, which is relatively
00:28:36close to the city center and which simply hasn't been
00:28:39adequately dealt with for a long time, part
00:28:43of the land, part of the land is contaminated has been removed, but
00:28:46that's only one part, uh, a big problem with that
00:28:50situation was that there was concealment of information, that there were
00:28:53pressures on inspection services and so on and that we have video recordings
00:28:57of some land being removed which uh, we simply don't
00:29:01know how much... mined from that area in Mostar
00:29:04we also have a situation related to sludge from
00:29:08a plant, I can't remember the situation,
00:29:11this Zenica and Tuzla also have their hotspots, so
00:29:14I mean, I don't have the exact information
00:29:18of which compounds are involved, but again I will refer
00:29:21to this UNDP study
00:29:25where they are listed and they are listed, which is sad, we
00:29:29lost a lot of time, they were listed... a lot
00:29:32before some incidents occurred including the fire in
00:29:36Incel, so these are things that could have been prevented
00:29:39in time, it was known, but it was also known that
00:29:43these actions were being done, like the theft of these oils which involves
00:29:47this
00:29:49metal cutting where sparks can cause
00:29:53a fire, so all of this could have been avoided, this
00:29:56is perhaps the greatest tragedy of our time, all of this was relatively easy
00:30:00to prevent, yes... medical waste in
00:30:03unregulated landfills, what are the consequences, Mr.
00:30:07Kalaba, on the environment,
00:30:11on people, on land, on groundwater,
00:30:14will we feel the consequences of this negligence regarding waste
00:30:17only in the years to
00:30:20come, well, yes, that's where this
00:30:23uh bioaccumulation aspect comes in, of course,
00:30:27it all depends on the type of medical waste, if it is
00:30:31something that is... biohazardous, in fact,
00:30:34if it's bacteria or viruses and so on, we have that
00:30:38problem, if it's about accumulation, I don't know, for example,
00:30:41expired uh, accumulation
00:30:45of drugs, among other things, if they are antibiotics, there is a
00:30:48possibility of creating some resistance and so on, if it's about, for example,
00:30:52radioactive materials, there is also that, we know what
00:30:55radioactivity does, whether it will now be carried by the wind, whether
00:30:59wild animals will come.