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00:00:00and simply something impossible that, of course, no one counted on. This was
00:00:03an accident or it was caused, as I said, the investigation will
00:00:07determine if it was caused intentionally. Do you have any
00:00:10information on the stage of the investigation? I really don't, because, look,
00:00:13the prosecutor's office won't give any information, it reserves the right
00:00:17to protect, not only in this, but in all other
00:00:20cases, but here we say that appropriate
00:00:23expert analyses should be conducted, probably a large number of people, workers,
00:00:27dumps, a large number of firefighters should be interviewed.
00:00:31Who told us, internally, when we went to
00:00:35thank those people for everything they did, because they were
00:00:38exposed to a terrible
00:00:41danger when they were putting out the fire at that dump, they were, because
00:00:44the dump didn't have only one fire, it had new fires on the second and third day,
00:00:48they expressed suspicion, due to their
00:00:51professional experience, that it was arson, mm,
00:00:55now that we're talking about public companies in the city of
00:00:58Mostar, are they today...
00:01:00professional city companies or still political prey
00:01:03of parties? How do you I personally think that we in
00:01:07public enterprises do not have professional companies, not only in Mostar,
00:01:10but in the entire area of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
00:01:14meaning those companies are
00:01:17simply under the supervision of political parties that appoint their
00:01:21members of supervisory boards, management, they manage these
00:01:24enterprises, and we are witnesses that their results are, as we
00:01:28said, who are the biggest debtors of taxes, contributions
00:01:32and they tell us that either we don't know how to manage that
00:01:35sector, that we don't know how to manage that sector, or that
00:01:39there is a high degree of corruption and crime where citizens' funds
00:01:42are, note that these funds that are used by public utility companies
00:01:46are paid by all of us through garbage collection or by paying appropriate
00:01:49utility fees adopted by our self-government units,
00:01:53meaning we are witnesses of problems in highways,
00:01:57problems in telecommunications, now big problems in the economy of Bosnia
00:02:00and Herzegovina in mines, meaning all
00:02:04public enterprises are simply either very
00:02:07few, a small number of them operate
00:02:10responsibly. Is it generally possible to solve that problem, we are talking
00:02:14now from local communities, then across
00:02:17the cantonal level then
00:02:20entity levels then the level of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
00:02:24all public enterprises are in a similar situation, similar
00:02:27state, is it generally possible? to come and
00:02:30solve these problems, well, it is possible to solve these problems, but these problems
00:02:34will not be solved until Bosnia and Herzegovina joins the European
00:02:37Union, mhm, I'm afraid they won't be solved, at the moment when we
00:02:41don't have only our prosecutor's offices, but European prosecutor's offices, well, we are witnesses now in
00:02:45Croatia that anyone who spends funds from European
00:02:48funds falls under the jurisdiction of the European prosecutor's office, well,
00:02:52you see, for example, even specifically in dumps in
00:02:55Croatia and and certain collectors, I'm talking about
00:02:59that communal infrastructure is very carefully
00:03:02monitored by European investigators how those
00:03:05funds are spent and and you have
00:03:09a control chain, let me say, a control
00:03:12chain by European prosecutors,
00:03:15so that politics cannot put pressure on the local
00:03:19prosecutor's office, you see, we are witnesses that the European
00:03:22prosecutor's office, because of EBRD funds,
00:03:25suspended the financing of highways in the Federation, so we see
00:03:28where we are now stopped. "We are stopped, that the
00:03:32works on the highways will stop, that we are again delayed and that we will again
00:03:35come from Mostar to Sarajevo for hours, you will go to the sea longer and
00:03:39longer until we build that highway, so you think that the
00:03:42solution is actually the European Union, well, to be honest
00:03:45I don't expect it because the time for transparency, responsible
00:03:49work of investigative, prosecutorial,
00:03:52judicial teams, fast efficient work until we enter
00:03:55or at least approach the European Union, because it will have very strict
00:03:59criteria." is about the chapter that refers to
00:04:02justice, mhm, so that is the most difficult chapter that Croatia
00:04:06would implement the reform of the judiciary, so
00:04:09without that there is no, I don't see
00:04:12the ability
00:04:14of these politicians, appointed people in all
00:04:18positions in institutions in the last 30 years, that there will be,
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00:05:48What does the new majority mean in Una-Sana Canton
00:05:51and the new government, how is the summer season going
00:05:55in Bihać, these are all topics that we will discuss with
00:05:59the mayor of Bihać, as well as
00:06:13these higher levels of government and the preparations
00:06:16for the general elections, Pomak officially
00:06:20supported the candidacy of Semir Efendić for a member of the presidency,
00:06:23you were supposed to have your own candidate, however, Šuhret
00:06:27Fazlić's candidacy was not certified due to signatures, do you
00:06:31actually expect that Semir Efendić will upset the plans of other candidates? Well, I
00:06:35believe that Mr. Efendić has realistic chances in
00:06:38this election race to achieve
00:06:41the result he envisioned due to the fact that he is a
00:06:45young man who has not yet
00:06:48been so exposed to these higher levels of government, someone who has
00:06:52for a very, very long time
00:06:55in the municipality of New Sarajevo shown, is it a new city,
00:06:59a new city, mm, shown that he very
00:07:03successfully leads the municipality and has results
00:07:06behind him, after all, since taking over the party for Bosnia and Herzegovina,
00:07:10he has achieved constant results in some growth, I am
00:07:14sure, now is the time for some new face, because everything we
00:07:18have the opportunity to see on the other hand we have already watched through several
00:07:21election cycles and I am not really sure that they can offer us something new
00:07:25that we haven't already seen. Now, let's move on to the main
00:07:29topic of discussion, Una-Sana Canton got a new government
00:07:33led by Ibrahima Dizdarić from your movement
00:07:36Pomak. Why did the government of Mustafa Ružnić
00:07:40actually change? Just before the
00:07:43elections, well, I think everyone who follows the events in Krajina
00:07:47saw that the previous government, which is now
00:07:51former, did not have support in
00:07:54the parliamentary assembly of Una-Sana Canton
00:07:58for more than two months, so the fact that the government
00:08:01lost confidence should have led to the government
00:08:04withdrawing itself, given that that did not happen, here are
00:08:08the new 16 deputies, or rather the new
00:08:12majority. The 16 deputies finally
00:08:15ended that whole ordeal that would have led us further
00:08:18towards the elections, probably for some period after the elections until
00:08:22the results are implemented, and that would have meant that Una-Sana
00:08:25Canton would be in a kind of blockade. In this way, that blockade is
00:08:29broken, the assembly can work unhindered, the government enjoys
00:08:33the support of the assembly, that is what is ultimately the
00:08:36result of a democratic process that
00:08:40I hope will unblock certain processes that have
00:08:43been blocked for a long period
00:08:47due to the very fact that I mentioned, on the other hand,
00:08:51we ourselves saw that this government was burdened by numerous mortgages,
00:08:54from the arrests of ministers, investigations against certain ministers, and even
00:08:58partly the prime minister who was involved in
00:09:01all these processes, after all,
00:09:05he himself should have, as prime minister, as the first man of that
00:09:08government, raised the question of responsibility.
00:09:13Um, due to the fact that some ministers ended up
00:09:16under investigation, against others
00:09:19some indictments are already being prepared,
00:09:23against others investigations are being carried out, then the impossibility
00:09:26of appointing a new government, the department that was left without
00:09:29a minister was entrusted to another minister, so all of that
00:09:33was something forced, it could have been
00:09:36very easily resolved in a way that the government
00:09:40withdrew and itself yielded. Is it paving the way for further
00:09:43democratic processes that, in the end, have again decided through this
00:09:47assembly on Monday?
00:09:50You mention the former prime minister, he called this new majority
00:09:53a coalition of desperadoes and announced
00:09:56a fight, mm, he specifically mentioned a fight against
00:09:59lawlessness, also from the SDP they claim that the constitution
00:10:03of Una-Sana Canton was violated due to ignoring the club
00:10:06of nations. Also, Pomak issued
00:10:09a statement telling the SDP that they are the last ones who can
00:10:13give lessons on consistency, where does
00:10:16such political intolerance come from, has
00:10:19cooperation been broken, what do the
00:10:22party relations in Una-Sana
00:10:25Canton look like at all? Well, I think that certainly, first of all,
00:10:28both NES and SDP are the last ones who can give any lessons
00:10:32to others about political consistency, about
00:10:34principles, about how governments
00:10:37changed in this past period, so we were all witnesses
00:10:41that ultimately, the previous
00:10:44change of government, so this one when NES came to power
00:10:48with the help of the "trojka" happened under the baton,
00:10:51the conducting baton from Sarajevo here, and I think that before...
00:10:55Um, before we move on to any further processes, it will be easier
00:10:59for all of us the sooner the heads of
00:11:02party headquarters here in Sarajevo
00:11:05realize that they cannot dictate political processes in Krajina
00:11:08from Sarajevo here, so they should leave it to the people in Krajina to lead
00:11:12the main word there, that political agreements are made there
00:11:16and that governments are formed on the basis
00:11:19of such agreements, as long as we have
00:11:22political directives here from
00:11:26Sarajevo, I am sure that we will not have a long-term
00:11:29government, and we will have, for example, such
00:11:33coalitions that are more imposed and forced than they are
00:11:36the result of some democratic processes, uh, I will
00:11:39just remind first of all the people in Krajina, but
00:11:43also, I think, the wider public that the last change of government, that is, the previous
00:11:46one, followed after NES estimated that the Trojka
00:11:50would bring them into power in the canton, in return they supported
00:11:54them here at the federal level in the federal parliament, that was a kind of
00:11:58political trade, for this very reason I think that these comrades
00:12:01from the party
00:12:05are the least called upon to give us lessons on how to behave, because we did not
00:12:09come here to Sarajevo for advice, but we made decisions in Krajina
00:12:12and I think that from the beginning of this mandate period
00:12:16a similar process was undergone by another political party whose
00:12:20headquarters are here in Sarajevo, but they ultimately concluded that
00:12:23it is easier... wiser to leave the processes to the people in
00:12:27Krajina, meaning their people in Krajina to lead them. Well, obviously
00:12:30the SDP is now in some kind of process, I sincerely hope that
00:12:34from this process they have
00:12:37now exited from, they have learned certain lessons, because as long
00:12:40as they don't realize that they can't dictate things from here, I'm sure
00:12:44nothing will change on the ground, we won't
00:12:47allow anyone to hold our hands and give us
00:12:51lessons, especially not those who have shown that they don't know how to.
00:12:55"You are talking about those political trades, but how do you respond to
00:12:59these accusations of illegality and process violation when it comes to this
00:13:03new government appointment? Well, look, one of the political entities that
00:13:06is, well, exactly uh, whose prime minister was at the head of this
00:13:10previous government, when we talk about those political
00:13:14turmoil, turncoats as they called them, uh, I would
00:13:17again mention here that they entered with
00:13:21certain deputies into the assembly itself, in the meantime they lost
00:13:25some deputies, some others, well, I will allow myself to say that they
00:13:28bought them, they may not have literally bought them with money, but they bought them
00:13:32with positions on the lists for these elections, so two
00:13:35deputies who entered this parliamentary term as
00:13:39DF, later switched to NES, two NES members left,
00:13:42I don't know, in the meantime there were some other turmoils within Nipa, our party
00:13:46no longer participates in the government
00:13:50in Una-Sana Canton, um, ultimately I think that we are
00:13:53the only ones who can say that we entered and exited this
00:13:57mandate period compactly and that we show that consistency
00:14:01to fight for the interests of Krajina, that is again what I will repeat, so
00:14:05uh, as long as we don't reach a level where
00:14:08we leave it to the people in regions, whether it's Una-Sana
00:14:12Canton, Tuzla, Bosnian-Podrinje or some other
00:14:15cantons, as long as we don't leave it to the people on the ground to
00:14:18make decisions themselves based on the electoral legitimacy
00:14:22they enjoy, we will have exactly such games and we will have
00:14:25changes of government one after another, the fourth in this mandate, so we don't boast about that, so this
00:14:29is not a proud moment for anyone, but political
00:14:32trading here in the central office, where we on the periphery always
00:14:35serve some small change, so
00:14:39either in Krajina or in some other cantons will lead to such results, unfortunately,
00:14:42well, I have to repeat that uh, that we
00:14:46who uh, who perhaps first spoke about it openly and
00:14:50loudly, I see that now some others are also
00:14:54following that." and I believe that is the only
00:14:57recipe for long-term survival and work,
00:15:01some work in some
00:15:04better, calmer environment for every next government, so let us in Krajina
00:15:08agree among ourselves, let us assess what is
00:15:11best for us, don't give us lectures. You say that the key
00:15:15goal of the change and appointment of the new government is to
00:15:18unblock processes that were blocked
00:15:22due to the poor relationship between the assembly
00:15:26and the government of Una-Sana Canton, however,
00:15:29the initiation of a mechanism for the protection of vital national
00:15:32interests is announced regarding the appointment of the government,
00:15:35you and the SDA called it an abuse, however,
00:15:39do you expect that constitutional appeals will again block
00:15:42the work of the canton, slow down the adoption of key
00:15:45decisions, that we will again find ourselves nowhere? I
00:15:49am absolutely convinced that the issue of invoking
00:15:52vital national interest is nothing other than an attempt
00:15:55to block the democratic process,
00:15:59surely a kind of abuse, I think that ultimately everyone is
00:16:02aware that the issue that was
00:16:05raised, uh, in the context of the appointment and dismissal of the government, cannot
00:16:09absolutely be an issue of vital national interest, especially in a government in which
00:16:13for years representatives of the Serbian and Croatian people have
00:16:16had their place. Ultimately, I would not take it upon myself to give any
00:16:20assessment, the Constitutional Court of the Federation will
00:16:24give the final assessment on that
00:16:27issue, when that issue comes before it, uh,
00:16:30on one hand, on the other hand, I will remind the public that we have been in this similar
00:16:34situation several times already, I think for the first time in 2013 or 2014 when that government was changed.
00:16:38Hamdija Lipovača's government, then later in 2018 when the
00:16:41government of Husein Rošić was changed, and the court
00:16:45always said that the issue of appointing
00:16:49and dismissing the government, if the national
00:16:52representation was respected, was never questionable, meaning it was not about violating
00:16:56vital national interest, I believe that will be the case this time, ultimately
00:16:59I want to confirm that yesterday
00:17:02the handover was completed, that the new government took office, it has all the decisions
00:17:06of the assembly, it operates completely normally until the moment the Constitutional
00:17:09Court eventually says something else, uh, and I think, like
00:17:13everyone else, uh, we are waiting for that
00:17:16decision, or rather, I will be a legalist, we will respect every decision
00:17:20of the Constitutional Court, of course, you have often emphasized, in previous
00:17:23appearances here, that Una-Sana Canton is geographically and
00:17:27economically cut off from the rest of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina,
00:17:30you complained actually even after the adoption of the budget,
00:17:34uh, about the amount of money that comes into Una-Sana Canton. mm, will
00:17:38the new government of Una-Sana Canton from
00:17:41a position of power succeed in forcing federal levels
00:17:45to initiate certain key projects
00:17:48such as a fast road to Sarajevo, an airport in Bihać, especially
00:17:52now because of these disagreements with the SDP, will the disagreements with
00:17:55the SDP perhaps affect future
00:17:58government decisions? Well, first of all, one should be aware
00:18:02that a cantonal government cannot force a federal government to do something
00:18:06that is its jurisdiction, such a question
00:18:09itself cannot even be
00:18:13posed, meaning the answer to such a question cannot be that
00:18:16the cantonal government is in a position to force something, it can
00:18:20negotiate easier, but what we talked about in the previous
00:18:24period, we will also demand
00:18:27in the period ahead is that
00:18:31a law on balanced regional development be adopted, which would, from
00:18:34a legal basis, enable balanced
00:18:38regional development, so that it is no longer a decision of political
00:18:41centers of power or eventually, some
00:18:45majorities that are formed after elections at the federal level, and then
00:18:48someone, through blackmail, forces certain
00:18:52projects for a certain part of the federation, or ultimately it becomes
00:18:56the result of political power, so where there are more votes,
00:18:59ultimately these large projects end up, where there are not enough,
00:19:02unfortunately, there we then have to settle for crumbs, we
00:19:06were witnesses, everyone in Krajina is a witness, so I don't need to explain that especially to
00:19:10people who live in Krajina that in the last 25,
00:19:1330 years, regardless of the fact that different
00:19:17party and political
00:19:20structures have changed at the federal level, we have never
00:19:24received any significant capital project, meaning, ultimately, Una-Sana
00:19:27Canton is still geographically in
00:19:31isolation, we don't have a dedicated industry, the
00:19:34airport project is stalled due to the fact that they didn't provide
00:19:38enough funds in this year's budget for its construction,
00:19:42mm, we don't have, we don't have enough
00:19:44investments when it comes to
00:19:47Una National Park, there are not enough
00:19:50investments when it comes to some other capital
00:19:54projects that we witness are being realized in other parts of the Federation,
00:19:57so traffic infrastructure is being
00:20:01built and developed unhindered
00:20:04in the Sarajevo Canton, in the Zenica-Doboj Canton.
00:20:07mm, Herzegovina-Neretva or West Herzegovina,
00:20:11then over there towards the Bosnian-Podrinje Canton, we don't have railways either,
00:20:15well, I mean what do we need to talk about, the Federation Railways
00:20:19in 10 cantons function, it seems, in two or
00:20:22three cantons, so even in 20 to 30%,
00:20:26uh, then we talk about how
00:20:29someone demands that Una-Sana Canton develop, but how
00:20:32will you develop if you don't have the basic prerequisites for development, so
00:20:36you are completely isolated in terms of transportation, we see that
00:20:39at these border crossings um, in all other
00:20:42cantons or in all other parts of Bosnia and
00:20:45Herzegovina, uh, we don't have such a
00:20:48problem. The problem we have in Una-Sana
00:20:51Canton again in this new, in this new
00:20:55agreement that was reached with the Republic of Croatia, we failed to impose
00:20:59uh, so any significant
00:21:02change due to the fact that we still have almost
00:21:05all the same border crossings we had until now, their
00:21:09volume of work will not increase, uh, of course
00:21:12it has causes in police structures, that is, insufficient
00:21:16staffing of police structures on one side and the other, but... Well,
00:21:20it is obvious that it was not in someone's focus to solve it as an issue that is
00:21:24important for Krajina, and in that context, mm,
00:21:27we see that further, mm, Krajina is, as we would say,
00:21:31mm, the last resort why is that so, somehow all
00:21:34politicians often when they talk, when they speak, especially when they visit,
00:21:38they boast about the beauties of Krajina, and
00:21:41they talk to the world about the beauties of Una, Una is actually known
00:21:45all over the world for the history of that area,
00:21:48why then is it not the goal to develop that area? It is very
00:21:52simple, so when you ask anyone,
00:21:55no one will say that they are not for the development
00:21:59that they should not invest in Krajina, everyone will say that Krajina
00:22:03is the most beautiful part of Bosnia and Herzegovina, that the best people are there, that
00:22:06they gave the most in the war, uh, however, then
00:22:10when it comes to talking about projects, it is mostly
00:22:13done for election purposes, when we get to
00:22:16the realization of projects, you don't have enough political support and...
00:22:20from the canton because people within political parties first have to
00:22:23fight for themselves, that means that someone who comes from Una-Sana Canton first has to
00:22:26fight and assert himself within his party, if
00:22:30he brings with him about ten thousand, 20,000 votes from Una-Sana
00:22:34Canton, his colleague from, say, Tuzla or
00:22:37Zenica-Doboj has 100,000 votes behind him,
00:22:41then he will wait, that is the principle
00:22:44of functioning of political parties, unfortunately, and we cannot
00:22:48assert ourselves politically individually. "That's why we said that
00:22:52it's necessary to unite, to unite as political
00:22:55entities from Krajina, regardless of ideology, regardless of the fact
00:22:59that someone advocates a certain political program in one direction or another,
00:23:02but essentially it's all
00:23:05just talk, as we would say, we are all interested in these capital
00:23:08projects, but the lack of that political power within
00:23:12political parties, in the end, when someone opposes political headquarters
00:23:16here in Sarajevo, they themselves
00:23:19hammer the last nail into the political
00:23:23coffin of their career, and they don't find themselves on any subsequent electoral
00:23:26lists, then no one even dares, everyone then gets a little intimidated, and
00:23:30so, in the end, we witnessed that in these last government changes,
00:23:34so people from Krajina were determined to
00:23:38make some other agreement to show that unity, but it was"
00:23:41again, uh, the dictation, or the conductor's
00:23:44baton from Sarajevo, worked, they pulled their ears a little, led them around, and they
00:23:48had to do what was asked again. from here, there are many problems
00:23:51precisely, that connection, however, regardless
00:23:55of that, there are many events in the
00:23:57Una-Sana Canton, but let's turn to Bihać, since you came
00:24:01here as the mayor of Bihać, on Saturday
00:24:04Bihać Summerfest ends, the city is teeming with tourists, the region is constantly
00:24:08in focus in August, what kind of data do you have about the tourist
00:24:11season this year, and
00:24:15whether there is any data for the summer, how much...
00:24:18the local community succeeds in utilizing the potentials of Una National
00:24:22Park, you mentioned earlier that the investments from higher
00:24:26levels of government are low, so
00:24:29I think someone will say now, you got 700,000 this year for the national
00:24:32park, or we gave, as it usually happens to say, we gave 700,000 for the Una National
00:24:36Park, yes, but for material costs, that means for the regular operation of the Una National Park,
00:24:40these are not capital investments, so let's start from that, that
00:24:44it cannot help the national park to grow and develop, but
00:24:47it can... help it employ an additional
00:24:51individual in that way, maybe gain some political
00:24:55support, ultimately, it just creates an expense, uh,
00:24:59we advocated earlier, so in 2023,
00:25:02that was our condition for supporting the budget then to allocate funds for
00:25:06capital investments, for paving access
00:25:09roads to Štrbački buk to Martin Brod, so Martin Brod is one of
00:25:1312, I think 14 villages that are fighting to be included
00:25:16on the UNESCO list of protected cultural
00:25:19heritage. That is something that will further contribute to this story, but
00:25:23someone has to stand for it, someone has to invest financial resources for us to get
00:25:27to that, not to tell fairy tales, here we invested, and that
00:25:30money went for material costs, so, on the one
00:25:33hand, uh, we are certainly trying as a local community to
00:25:37improve conditions, not only
00:25:40through the national park, but also uh with our
00:25:43restaurateurs, people involved in tourism, to give
00:25:47them an opportunity to develop, and
00:25:50in that way, we generate even more
00:25:53arrivals in Bihać, because what we want to achieve is to brand Bihać
00:25:57as one of the tourist destinations in Bosnia and Herzegovina that attracts an increasing
00:26:01number of tourists. "I spoke earlier about us truly having a record
00:26:05year last year with over 300,000 visits from
00:26:07124 countries around the world, this year the season started a bit
00:26:11worse, now these days it's a little
00:26:14better, more tourists are coming
00:26:18from the Middle East, uh, it's definitely
00:26:21true that everything that is invested in
00:26:24tourism returns many times over, so who
00:26:27is investing the most now, is it exclusively
00:26:31the city itself?". "Each city for itself, or is there help from
00:26:35the Una-Sana Canton, the Federation, we are already... well,
00:26:38look, I would say that sporadically
00:26:41something comes from each side, however, if we talk about some
00:26:45concept that should be common, unfortunately it does not exist, so
00:26:49we point out something as significant for the Una National Park,
00:26:51Una National Park of course, which is under
00:26:55the jurisdiction of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina due to these again
00:26:59some political disagreements considers that it is not or..." eventually
00:27:03it goes in another direction, we spoke about the need to open new
00:27:06access roads to these destinations, that project
00:27:10documentation should be done, we asked last year for those projects to be
00:27:13included, they were not in the budget, later the minister said that she would do something with a
00:27:16reallocation, I sincerely hope she will, although
00:27:20I doubt it, we are already here before the elections, before
00:27:23the election campaign, I don't believe anything significant will happen this year,
00:27:27uh, so we are coming to a situation
00:27:31where indeed... some things that should have
00:27:35or were supposed to be realized, for which we had promises that they would be
00:27:39done, were not done, they told us that we would
00:27:42also in the field of this traffic
00:27:46infrastructure make some significant progress, I cannot
00:27:49agree that, I don't know, the expropriation process for the fast road is okay,
00:27:53it's flowing in its own course which is
00:27:55uh of course uh conditioned
00:27:59by the dynamics of the expropriation process to reach owners
00:28:02who are not only in Bosnia and Herzegovina, but around the world, I won't
00:28:06elaborate now, but these are processes that are simply
00:28:09bureaucratic and take a long time, that is a fact
00:28:13that uh is undeniable that we will not see traffic
00:28:16infrastructure in the Una-Sana Canton in such a foreseeable
00:28:19future, so we cannot see the fast road in the next three or four
00:28:23years, or even five, I think it is more likely that we will see it in 10, 15
00:28:27years, we will not see this main road between Bihać and Vozanska Krupa for
00:28:31the next three or four years if we continue at this pace, but what
00:28:34we could see is an airport, what we could see is a functional railway,
00:28:38what we could see is tourist infrastructure in the National
00:28:42Park, we could see it if someone allocated
00:28:45funds for it, of course, a local community, any community, so not just
00:28:49the city of Bihać, any local community in the Una-Sana Canton does not have
00:28:52large enough budgets to allocate those funds to invest by itself not only
00:28:56in tourism but in other branches of the economy, but
00:28:59this is perhaps a paradox. Uh, which
00:29:03very often remains somewhere, perhaps unmentioned,
00:29:07uh, it's not an incentive for the economy if you take
00:29:10money from the budget, distribute it to businesses so
00:29:13they can buy something with it or justify it, because a large part of those
00:29:16funds, uh, unfortunately, I have to
00:29:19say, from those businesses returns to political structures
00:29:23either through sponsorship in political campaigns or if someone extorts
00:29:26our businesses, so wouldn't it be simpler to relieve
00:29:30businesses of burdens, for example, to reduce. mm
00:29:33to reduce the percentage of contributions, you would have made it easier
00:29:36for businesses, there's no cash flow, so there's no possibility for someone
00:29:40to manipulate money, and you've made it easier for businesses, but one has to
00:29:43remember that, or maybe someone did remember that this first option is better, because that
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