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00:01:48With Dr. Fouti appearing before a senate committee last week, we've been hearing the phrase
00:01:52gain of function research again. What does it actually mean?
00:01:56Basically, it's where genetic modifications are made an organism to change. what
00:02:00that organism can do, this has many positive uses, but gain of function
00:02:04can also be another way to describe the beginning of biological
00:02:08warfare, such as when you modify virus, and as if we don't have enough to worry
00:02:11about already, the specter of such warfare still haunts the world.
00:02:15think back several years ago to the beginning
00:02:17of the COVID outbreak, pretty scary stuff, required all hands on
00:02:21deck around the world, and yet COVID's letality was not even
00:02:251%. now imagine an organism designed to kill
00:02:29at something like a 100%
00:02:31and to be easily transmissible, it would make nuclear war look like
00:02:34child's play, sure, buildings would still be standing, but the people inside
00:02:38would all be dead. though biological warfare is
00:02:41a a war crime and is covered by the 1972 biological weapons convention,
00:02:45there's no guarantee that some lab out there isn't planning or engaged
00:02:49in it now, and even if no one tries to commit
00:02:52of biological warfare, there's that not too unlikely scenario of another
00:02:56lab leak, a phrase associated with the COVID outbreak as well.
00:03:00so we need to
00:03:01of think about the possibilities and to figure out how to prevent the worst. someone
00:03:04who's already done a lot of that thinking is investigative journalist Andy
00:03:08Jacobson. her specialty is war and weapons, not to mention
00:03:11government secrecy. in 2024 she
00:03:14of came out with nuclear war a scenario, and now she has new
00:03:18best seller. it is called biological war a
00:03:22scenario. and he joins me now. and
00:03:24your your book
00:03:24is not science fiction, you kind of reverse engineered
00:03:28it from pentagon doc. and the people who plan this sort of
00:03:32thing, walk me through how fast it moves, in other words, it
00:03:36starts with lab leak in
00:03:38of Siberia, in your scenario, how many days until total
00:03:41anarchy in the
00:03:43in U.S., well, I
00:03:46take the reader from outbreak, as
00:03:48you say, to anarchy in 6 days, because that
00:03:52is precisely what would happen if you have
00:03:56pathogen that has been genetically modified to be...
00:04:00hypervirulent, like kill lot of people, COVID killed
00:04:031% or less, there are pathogens, the one I use
00:04:07in my book, pneumonic plague, has 100% case
00:04:11fatality rate, if you also modify that to
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00:04:16you know human to human
00:04:18of transmissible, fancy word for airborne, and and it
00:04:22is also modified to defeat medical
00:04:25countermeasures, vaccines, antibiotics, now
00:04:29you have night scenario at scale that is
00:04:33happening so fast, there is just absolutely no
00:04:36way that the
00:04:37a government can respond. so in the book you
00:04:41alternate between laying out the data, the history, the
00:04:44of science, and then you paint the picture of this scenario, and
00:04:47there are any number of instances as I read the book where I found myself saying, wait a minute, is
00:04:51that actually true? so here's a detail that I couldn't shake, you
00:04:55have the soviets working to engineer this plague so that
00:04:59the... would feel more euporic so that they would go out and they
00:05:03would socialize. Is that
00:05:05true? It is true, and it's a detail
00:05:09that was given
00:05:10of to me by one
00:05:10of the world's subject matter. experts on plague, Dr.
00:05:14Henry Hein, he worked at Fort detrick at the usamrid
00:05:18facility, that's the defense department's only
00:05:21BSL4, that's a maximum containment
00:05:24facility in America, and Kine who
00:05:28told me that when they were working to develop, try and develop medical
00:05:32counter measures for plague in the early
00:05:352000s, they you know in the late 1990s is when they
00:05:39had learned the Russian scientists in their illegal.
00:05:43program were inserting the gene for
00:05:46euphoria into the front end the disease, and you
00:05:50might say, well, why on earth would anyone do that? well, if you feel
00:05:54terribly ill because you have plague, you're going to go
00:05:58home, get under the covers and not infect lot
00:06:01of people, but if you're feeling euphoria, you're
00:06:05going to naturally want to go out and socialize, you might even
00:06:09wind up a disco, which is where the scenario.
00:06:13begins okay, and this then creates the
00:06:17dammed if you do, dammed if you don't scenario relative to gain of
00:06:20function research, because if we think that some of our
00:06:23adversaries are engaged in this sort of experimentation, the
00:06:27only way you correct me if i'm wrong, that we can be ready is
00:06:31if we too are involved in gain a function research,
00:06:35so what should we be doing?
00:06:39mean, you've hit the nail on the head with the catch 22.
00:06:42often of war gaming, of actual warfare, which
00:06:46is sword and shield, count,
00:06:50attack, offense, defense, and so gain of function does
00:06:54exactly that, it's it's looking at pathogens and trying to give
00:06:58them more, virulance, make
00:07:01them airborne, defeat medical counter
00:07:04measures, under the premise
00:07:07that you're actually doing defensive work, so that
00:07:10if someone attacks you
00:07:12with a... modified weapon, you have some sense
00:07:16of how to perhaps make a countermeasure, but of course we
00:07:19know from covid, that this creates an extremely dangerous
00:07:23situation whereby the threat, the
00:07:27risk, i think most people would tell you is so
00:07:31much greater than any potential
00:07:33reward. you deliberately
00:07:36anchored so many plot points to something that has actually happened
00:07:40in COVID, the cruise ship. uh, the wet market
00:07:44explanation, even an aircraft carrier that's taken out a commission, why, why was it
00:07:48important to you that none of this be invented and that you were able to peg
00:07:52it to real events? for the same
00:07:55reason i put my sources right up front, i
00:07:59list who i spoke to, do this in nuclear war scenario and do
00:08:03it in biological war scenario. i want readers to understand
00:08:07that these are scenarios that are gamed out by the
00:08:10pentagon, it's not the only... scenario, it's one them,
00:08:14and so you get the sense of this could actually happen,
00:08:18and people are thinking about this. I'm not writing to terrify
00:08:22people, the point is really not panic as much as it
00:08:26is pressure, because once the regular folks, we
00:08:29the people understand, these are major threats,
00:08:33they exist, the government is trying to prepare for them, and in essence
00:08:37knows there is nothing they can do, then we can all have
00:08:41a sort of more and... formed say and what we think about something,
00:08:45like, for example, gain a
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00:15:14The AI revolution is here, but along with incredible opportunities come
00:15:18new risks, criminals using AI to scam victims out of hundreds of
00:15:21thousands of dollars, data centers consuming vast amounts of energy and
00:15:25water and intelligence agencies warning that advanced AI could
00:15:29supercharge cyber attacks, so how worried should we be,
00:15:32and who should be held accountable? let's get into
00:15:34it. think you'd never
00:15:38fall for an online scam? well, it can happen to anyone. this
00:15:42businessman lost $400,00 to an AI driven crypto
00:15:46scam. i still wake up occasionally in the middle the night with
00:15:49anxiety where it just all of sudden hits me. AI assisted scams
00:15:53are a steep rise according to crime researchers and the FBI.
00:15:57criminal networks use AI to work across borders and languages,
00:16:01reaching more victims than ever before. here's what you can learn from Chris's
00:16:04story. i mentalized. through
00:16:08Facebook um, november
00:16:112024, um, I got a friend request, they
00:16:15began talking, eventually Eliza brought up crypto investments
00:16:18and how much money she made with it, they even had a video call, Eliza
00:16:22looked real, Chris decided to invest. This was a way for
00:16:26me to grow my retirement fund. I had no
00:16:30plans to stay in it for very long. The platform showed steady
00:16:34profits, everything seemed legit until Chris mentioned. to her
00:16:37friend, i have this friend she's
00:16:39a bank manager, she said what are you doing chris? i said, well, it's
00:16:43part of my investment, she goes, what are you investing in? she said,
00:16:46chris, you were
00:16:49scammed. the investment platform was fake, the profits
00:16:53were fake, and chris still doesn't know whether he was talking to a
00:16:57person or in AI. there were real people involved, however, one
00:17:00time a man physically came to Chris's house to collect cash in person. minutes
00:17:04later, the cash showed up in his investment account and Chris real... lies he had been
00:17:08scammed, he sent dorble camera footage to law enforcement, but so far no
00:17:12luck catching the man. i was planning to retire in like another three or four
00:17:16years, that unless something changes, that's not going
00:17:19to happen, which is, to say it's
00:17:23discouraging is probably a gross
00:17:25understatement. this isn't an isolated
00:17:29case. scammers around the world use the same playbook, create
00:17:33fake identity, build trust, convince someone to invest, then
00:17:36dicep There are entire scam factories often based in
00:17:40Southeast Asia, they are known to force human trafficked victims to work in
00:17:44teams to scam people worldwide. Experts estimate that hundreds of
00:17:48thousands of traffic victims are involved in such operations, and
00:17:51technology is supercharging this. AI can help
00:17:55criminals write convincing messages in many languages, it can create
00:17:59realistic images, it can clone voices and it makes fake
00:18:03identities much harder to detect. As large language models, for
00:18:06example, got in better and better, you're suddenly
00:18:09globalizing the audience you can communicate with. some scam
00:18:13factories use specialized software that incorporates leading AI models to
00:18:17automate and scale their operations. recent investigation found
00:18:21open AI chat gpt and google's germini to be the most used
00:18:24tools, but models from Europe and China were also used. internet
00:18:28access is another key part the operation. Starlink is the number
00:18:32one internet service provider in Myanmar where many scam factories are
00:18:35based. is these compounds continue to connect to the
00:18:39internet and the way that they get around all the other restrictions that are put in
00:18:43place. that raises the question of who cares responsibility here?
00:18:47is big tech to blame? most technology companies have guidelines
00:18:51that forbid criminal use their products, but they also argue that monitoring
00:18:54all user activity would raise privacy concerns. some companies have taken
00:18:58action. starling says it has disabled thousands of internet terminals
00:19:02linked to scam compounds. yet investigators say new sites continue
00:19:06to emerge using Starling again critics argue that AI companies
00:19:10and internet providers have the technical ability to do more but lack
00:19:14regulatory pressure. The United Kingdom, the European Union,
00:19:17Australia and Singapore have introduced rules that require companies
00:19:21to better prevent online scams, but regulation takes time,
00:19:25so what can you do right now? If someone you meet online starts talking about
00:19:29investments, be careful, if they pressure you to move money quickly, that's
00:19:32a major red flag. Use reverse image search to check
00:19:36profile photo. never invest through a link sent by someone you've only met
00:19:40online, search independently before sending any money, and
00:19:44if something feels off, trust that feeling. you can even paste your chat into an
00:19:48AI tool and ask if it looks like a scam. if you suspect you're being
00:19:52scammed, stop sending money immediately, save messages and take
00:19:55screenshots of payments. report the scam even if you might not get your money
00:19:59back, you could prevent others from faulding for the same scam. because as AI
00:20:03continues evolve, your best defense isn't just better technology, it's
00:20:07knowing how these scams really work, stay
00:20:10safe. what if your next
00:20:13electricity bill came with reward for using less power so data center
00:20:17can use more? techgiant google is starting to pay people for
00:20:21small amounts their unused energy from household appliances and evs
00:20:25for example. the idea turn millions of everyday devices into a
00:20:28virtual power plant for data centers. sounds
00:20:32crazy, well as ai use is exploding, data centers need huge amounts
00:20:36of electricity, they leave a massive environmental footprint because of carbon
00:20:39emissions and extensive water use for cooling. regions in Asia and Latin
00:20:43America are seeing data center boom. They can bring jobs and
00:20:47investment, but also strain power. supply and increase water and
00:20:51energy costs, so communities are asking, how do we balance the
00:20:55benefits and the downsides? let's break it down. data
00:20:58centers use enormous amounts of electricity, some the biggest ones can
00:21:02consume as much power as around 50,00 homes together, and
00:21:06for people living nearby that could affect energy supply. take Mumbai for
00:21:10example, experts say the data centers could use one third the city's
00:21:13electricity by 2030. one idea we've already
00:21:17teased virtual power plants or VP The concept is
00:21:21simple: rather than one big power source, a VPP connects thousands
00:21:25of smaller ones, home batteries, EV charges, rooftop solar
00:21:28systems. People get paid to share that energy, helping ease pressure on
00:21:32the grid. Data centers use large amounts of water, mainly to
00:21:36cool their service. According to recent United Nations report, data centers
00:21:40could consume over 9 trillion liters of water every year by 2030,
00:21:44that's roughly equivalent to the drinking water needs the entire world
00:21:48population a year. In summary. regions like Latin America, growing
00:21:51demand is causing tension, residents are worried about water use during
00:21:55droughts. In Uruguay, for example, mass protest broke out after
00:21:59a google data center was proposed during the country's worst drought in 70
00:22:03years. A similar fight played out in Chile, one the most drout prone countries
00:22:07in Latin America. In Santiago Cerio's district, a proposed
00:22:10Google data center was projected to use 7.6 million liters of
00:22:14water a day, which is about as much water as the surrounding community uses
00:22:18in year, so what? the cooling water didn't have to come from rivers or
00:22:22groundwater. one idea: put data centers in the ocean. China
00:22:26has recently launched an underwater data center. submerged 10 kmters
00:22:29off the coast of Shanghai, it sits 10 meters below the
00:22:33surface. The cooling happens naturally there, but some
00:22:37worry that projects like these would disturb marine ecosystems. Data
00:22:40centers don't just consume resources, they also occupy land.
00:22:44Some few whole communities could be displaced. It's already
00:22:48happening in India where local farmers. refuse to give up their land for a Google
00:22:52Data Center, so to avoid putting any more stress on the planet,
00:22:56some are looking beyond earth. Researchers in Singapore have proposed a
00:22:59system where satellites in low earth orbit could act like data centers,
00:23:03sharing computing power, storage and network traffic. To have data centers
00:23:07in space offers two big advantages: almost unlimited solar
00:23:10energy and natural cooling from the extreme cold of space. Europe's
00:23:14Ascen project, UAE's Madari Space and China are already
00:23:18testing prototypes. but there are some problems,
00:23:21cost, difficult maintenance or space deberry, to name few. In the
00:23:25end, feelings are mixed. In some places, data centers were once
00:23:29welcomed, like in the US state of Virginia, where they supported over
00:23:3275,000 jobs across the state and generated more than 1.6
00:23:36billion dollars in tax revenue in 2023, but over time the public
00:23:40there turned against them. bottom line, data centers bring jobs,
00:23:43innovation and growth, but also noise, pressure on resources and
00:23:47environmental concerns and while the... benefits might be global,
00:23:51the impact is felt most strongly at the local level. so what do you
00:23:55think? is it fair trade-off? what's your take on this? let us
00:23:58know. imagine waking up, your bank
00:24:02account locked, the power grid completely down, government
00:24:05websites suddenly switched off, an entire country's critical
00:24:09infrastructure crippled in seconds, not by an army of human hackers,
00:24:13but by a single AI model. sounds like sci-fi right, but according to
00:24:17rare and urgent warning from the five ice intelligence. alliance a
00:24:20scenario like this is only few months away. the joint statement of five
00:24:24country security agency says that AI accelerates the speed,
00:24:28scale and sophistication of cyber threats and urges global leaders
00:24:32to act right now. what's more? this initiative took place in June, only
00:24:36days after the Trump administration officially blocked foreign nationals
00:24:40from accessing anthropic's mythis and fable models. is the global ai
00:24:44race playing out as a cyber weapons arms race? let's dive
00:24:48in. the five eyes are: science issued a blanket warning about the
00:24:52dangers of so-called frontier AI models, but right now entropics
00:24:55newest tech is taking center stage. in very simple terms, standard
00:24:59AI can code and fix bugs. frontier models like
00:25:03mythis can scan code, find flaws and then plan, test and
00:25:07launch a full cyber attack. previously, targeted zero
00:25:11day exploits could only be executed by advanced hackers. that means
00:25:14detecting deeply hidden software vulnerabilities that the creators don't
00:25:18even know exist. now anyone with an internet connection and access to
00:25:22capable frontier model could theoretically do that. this drastically
00:25:26accelerates the speed and scale of cyber warfare. for
00:25:30this reason, anthropic had kept its most powerful frontier model, claud
00:25:34mythus 5, restricted to select corporations to help strengthen
00:25:37cyber defenses. its hacking capabilities were deemed too dangerous for
00:25:41public use. claud fable 5 was supposed to be the safe public version
00:25:45with built in guard rails, but the Trump administration didn't agree. the
00:25:49express... concerns over a potential security flaw citing
00:25:52jailbreak that allowed users to bypass the AI
00:25:55safeguards. US authorities claim there was an unacceptable
00:25:59risk these models being diverted into military and intelligence
00:26:03and use by foreign adversaries, so they banned access to both
00:26:07models for all foreign nationals overnight, a move strongly criticized by
00:26:11developers and experts. following negotiations,
00:26:14Anthropic officially redeployed and restored Cloud Fable 5 on July
00:26:18first, but what were the global implications the short-lift
00:26:22ban? global fallout was massive, by pulling the plug overnight,
00:26:25Washington didn't just hold back a piece of software, they shuttered global trust in
00:26:29American tech. many leaders believed that powerful models fable could
00:26:33help patch their own cyber security to avoid doomsday scenarios like the one we
00:26:37talked about in the beginning, but if the Trump administration can just cut off
00:26:41anyone, even an alli like Australia, which had just signed major
00:26:45national AI deal with anthropic, what stopping them from blocking access to other
00:26:49crucial software. If techs across Europe, Asia and Latin America
00:26:53realize they can't rely on American platforms, they were inevitably look for
00:26:57alternatives like the advanced state-backed open source models flowing
00:27:01out of China, and they have... their very own flaws around the world, there are
00:27:04initiatives to become less dependent on US tech, especially AI.
00:27:08the EU, for example, is pushing hard for much more digital sovereignty at the
00:27:12moment, but it's a long way to go, because AI needs massive
00:27:15infrastructure and investments. that's why many experts
00:27:19and politicians are calling for international cooperation to rain
00:27:23in the risk of unregulated AI development. do you think that's
00:27:27realistic? let us know in the comments. that's all for me today. bye and see you next
00:27:31time.
00:27:58What satellite can do for you? This one circles the earth.
00:28:02about 15 times a day hunting for methane
00:28:06leaks that are warming the planet. CNN's chief
00:28:10climate correspondent Bill Weer is with us now, so it hunts them, it sees
00:28:14them, it videos them, and then it's about accountability. And then it's about calling out
00:28:17countries and super polluters. What if we could see the source of climate
00:28:21change, would we act differently uh as people? Well, that is the theory
00:28:25behind this particular experiment. This is what methane looks like with a special
00:28:29camera. This is 90% of natural gass it is as marketed. is
00:28:33methane, which is much more potent of a planet cooking
00:28:36pollution, 85 times more powerful than CO2. of co2 is
00:28:40a blanket of average thickness, methane, or methane, as
00:28:44they say in England, is a blanket that's about as thick as LeBron James's tall, much
00:28:48more potent, much easier to see and then capture, so the
00:28:52EDF environmental defense fund launched this satellite last
00:28:55year, it goes around the earth every couple hours and spots
00:28:59exactly where these leaks are happening, and now We're finally getting the
00:29:03data on where these things are happening right now, and let
00:29:06me let me take you around the country a little bit, starting in Appalacia, we talked
00:29:10lot about Pennsylvania fracking, there it is leaking four times
00:29:14the industry set rate, it turns out the satellite is finding three to
00:29:18five times more than even the environmental defense fund had predicted
00:29:22inta basin in Utah, just outside of Salt Lake
00:29:26City to the east there, 45 times what the
00:29:30industry says is happening there, that's a much smaller. basin so it doesn't produce
00:29:34a lot of oil and gas,
00:29:35but is leaking enormous amounts
00:29:36of methane, and then when you get to the permian basin, that is the beating heart
00:29:40the Texas oil patch, it goes into New Mexico there, between 9
00:29:44and 15 times higher than the industry has admitted, the
00:29:47question now is what are these companies going to do about it? well, first of all,
00:29:51methane, man, the UK, they talk funny, two, what is the Trump
00:29:55administration's view on all this? well, if you take uh the early statements
00:29:59and the whole project 2025 thing, they have just sort of a... mearing
00:30:03to stain for any regulation in the space, feeling emboldened, lot
00:30:06of fracking companies are saying, you can ignore this, but physics you
00:30:10can't ignore, this is happening, this is uh heating up the planet in real
00:30:14time.
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