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00:01:40so, will the time come,
00:01:44or rather the trend, for imperfection to be in
00:01:47focus, and when I say imperfection, I mean
00:01:50natural, so when you see someone write a post
00:01:54that you see is truly an experiential
00:01:57post, not clear... by the number of paragraphs,
00:02:01a clear leading lead sentence that is always
00:02:05in the center, at the end it is put again, or
00:02:08repeated, so, that space that is used, that dash
00:02:12is no longer the regular, small one, but the long one, some even
00:02:15have those emojis left, green and blue, what
00:02:18do I know, red fires on the side, so we have already started
00:02:21to throw that out, but so when will
00:02:25imperfection in every sense become a trend,
00:02:28Borislav?
00:02:30Hmm, that already exists, so, that already exists, we call that
00:02:34avant-garde, so, that already exists, I even have it in my
00:02:37work with clients, it started as
00:02:41a joke, of course, but it has now become a serious business decision,
00:02:45so, if I am in copywriting and
00:02:48when I get a request from a client for a certain text for a website, landing
00:02:52page and so on, it started as a joke, today it is a serious business
00:02:55decision, so this is the price if you want me to do it with my AI
00:02:59agents. "It's 10 times more expensive if you want me to take a pen and paper and
00:03:03do it from scratch, so that already
00:03:06exists in areas, of course in niches, but it already
00:03:09exists as a trend, so you have
00:03:13clients, you have companies that want, regardless of the possibilities they
00:03:16know and use certain possibilities, they still want to have
00:03:19that, as we say, in inverted commas, human mm
00:03:23human factor, that now, I say again, paradoxically, because in
00:03:26AI everything is paradoxical, it is paradoxical now..." it's
00:03:30more expensive, so to do it, just as art, I
00:03:34would say in a sense, right, is appreciated in that
00:03:37sense, so my position is still, I say, in that
00:03:41sense, mm, I am not afraid for myself, I am
00:03:4441 years old, everything I do with AI I have done a thousand
00:03:48times manually, so I am not afraid of that, but I am afraid for my
00:03:51children, that is what I have a problem with, because my child will
00:03:55make the first presentation with an egg, I have made thousands,
00:03:59mhm. Mhm, that's right, Nermin,
00:04:03imperfect, perfect, and maybe the only good thing is that we now increasingly
00:04:07see on portals that it has to state at the top that it is AI
00:04:10generated actually, which is a good thing, a good thing, but
00:04:14I mean, you said that now after three years of reading
00:04:18AI-generated content, you exactly by the pattern on which,
00:04:21or by the principle of
00:04:23I don't know,
00:04:26that's right, absolutely, you see, you conclude okay, this is an AI-generated text.
00:04:30This, so that authenticity, I mean, when someone truly
00:04:33writes an authentic article, an authentic post, you can judge that,
00:04:37this, certainly we have a problem again
00:04:42you have AI that can with the clarity of communicating what we want to communicate, because when you write things
00:04:44through AI, it tries so hard to be eloquent and inserts
00:04:48so many superfluous terms where you sometimes very, very, yes,
00:04:51it's very difficult to control, especially for people who are not experts in the topic
00:04:55they want to write about, so this
00:04:59sometimes they have to. leave it to AI and it somehow writes it too cumbersome,
00:05:02too broad, too everything, this, so that some clarity
00:05:06of the message it actually wants to convey is completely lost in that
00:05:09post, this, so I think that certainly this. some
00:05:13shorter format, clearer format, simpler format, will absolutely be
00:05:16something that in the future, will be preferred by
00:05:20people, and indeed by algorithms, because somehow we are all getting tired of this
00:05:24AI-generated content, we are probably leaving social networks, this colleague is just one example, I
00:05:28have dozens, this because people suddenly started making,
00:05:32we all make personal brands, we all write three posts a day, we all
00:05:35talk about some emotional this plots,
00:05:39resolutions of our lives, professional careers and it's somehow. become
00:05:43tiring, because we can't all be some kind of influencers and influential and
00:05:46what do I know, someone simply needs to do the job they are talented for, and I'm glad
00:05:50you mentioned communication, because somehow it seems we forget
00:05:54the basic essence of communication, which is to understand each other, we can understand
00:05:57each other only if we feel each other, that is, if there is that emotion, and
00:06:01emotion cannot be hidden, that is, very rarely can it be
00:06:04hidden or it will eventually come out, and that AI-generated content actually
00:06:08gives that hybrid emotion that does not resonate
00:06:11with people. exactly if you know it or know the people who
00:06:15write that content, you actually see that it's not theirs and
00:06:19100% of cases, 100% of cases, that's right, but
00:06:22here, when we talk about AI not as a very useful tool which,
00:06:26as we said at the beginning, if used correctly, can bring benefits to the individual and
00:06:30the community and the company, mm what are those skills
00:06:34mm that in the future will differentiate those
00:06:37who will get jobs more easily and those who will not?
00:06:40Generations to come
00:06:44m I agree again with my colleague that new
00:06:47generations will have more problems being
00:06:50onboarded to some simple jobs, this
00:06:54because you have older colleagues or seniors who now
00:06:57with that AI can do their job without
00:07:01wasting time and nerves to explain something to them and then get
00:07:04the wrong result, and then there are several iterations if
00:07:08some junior learns this, I again have the feeling that we are a social
00:07:12society. that we will certainly need to work with people more, because the corona showed
00:07:16that even in the software industry, this remote
00:07:20that we all currently prefer and all
00:07:24support, this is not ideal, already almost the sixth year
00:07:27- and as for knowledge itself, I think it's really important to
00:07:30be experts in the niche
00:07:34we move in, this no one can take away from you, I mean,
00:07:38again, you are an experienced journalist and my colleague is an experienced journalist, again I come back to the fact that...
00:07:43problem, but no one can take your contacts from you, no one can take away your
00:07:47personality and so on, I mean, you have open doors almost everywhere, no one
00:07:51can simulate an interview with a person who is difficult to
00:07:54reach through AI, meaning you can reach that person or you cannot reach that person, that is,
00:07:58for example, for your profession or or anything else, it doesn't matter now if it's
00:08:01an exclusive interview, information, anything,
00:08:05this, I mean, it's easy to simulate with AI, but when things
00:08:09are transferred to a real context,
00:08:13your personality is quite an important factor in how well you do your job, and other
00:08:16jobs, what is it that will
00:08:19disappear? Well, well, it will certainly
00:08:22disappear, these truly templated
00:08:26jobs, that means customer support, that means some of this serial
00:08:30sales, "good day, we're bringing you a mattress on sale"
00:08:34and so on, meaning all these things truly function
00:08:37even today on the principle that you have an algorithm
00:08:41of functioning, someone gave you that paper and says, "when the client calls,
00:08:44say this sentence, if they say option A, say this, if they say
00:08:48option B, say this" and reads, that's right, so here
00:08:52you are essentially turning a human into a more or less a bot
00:08:56machine that has a clear functioning algorithm, it's the same, I mean, you give it a program and
00:08:59it outputs 10,000 commands a day, what about consultants? Well,
00:09:03I think that will really remain alive in functions, i.e., we started too early
00:09:06to write off those people as white-collar jobs and this segment
00:09:10is in collapse.
00:09:12You can replace a person who, for example, take the field of electrical power engineering, you have
00:09:16a consultant who is an expert in high voltage, mhm, I don't know,
00:09:19high-voltage grid and so on, you really can't replace
00:09:23a person who has been doing that for 20 years with AI, even though AI might already have enough data
00:09:27in its models, especially in larger models, so you can get any
00:09:30kind of information on how to potentially solve a
00:09:33problem, but those high-voltage grids,
00:09:36for example, are so specific,
00:09:40you have case-by-case things that absolutely. are not the same from node to
00:09:43node, they affect security, so this, consultants as
00:09:47consultants, I really don't think they are going anywhere as
00:09:51a profession, but certainly there will be different expectations of
00:09:55them in terms of their output, because realistically before, you made a presentation
00:09:59of a hundred pages of text like you made a case study, today anyone can
00:10:03write a case study if you give them enough information, so we will again
00:10:07have to go back to doing hands-on things because we are really
00:10:10expected to produce results and not just instructions on how. to do something,
00:10:13does all that amuse you? I, for one, am very amused listening to you talk,
00:10:17because I believe there are so many unexplored possibilities of what
00:10:20I don't know, and what I would certainly like to find out, somehow
00:10:24with this current available knowledge, capital, contacts
00:10:28and what a person has and and actually
00:10:31does the future excite you or
00:10:34are you one of those who, well, in some short-term period, that is
00:10:38the next three, five, seven years, absolutely yes, because
00:10:41truly
00:10:43if if you want to work, if you are, you don't have to be a workaholic, but
00:10:47if you just want to do what you do, truly with AI
00:10:51tools, we can do things much, certainly two or three times
00:10:54better. Faster, then I think you open up new
00:10:57opportunities, you solve new problems, this,
00:11:01but you have to be motivated to do it sincerely, if if you don't want to work
00:11:04and especially I mean in the IT industry, we are witnesses that
00:11:07people absolutely abuse this AI coding
00:11:10tools where this it's no longer like, even though it's very
00:11:14casual and a job and a profession, it's gone to some
00:11:17extreme now when you talk to that agent and he
00:11:21gives some kind of recommendation, i.e., advice, if something needs to be done, you say yes. you go,
00:11:25drink coffee, then you come back after it's finished, then the next step, you say yes again,
00:11:29made, make, I mean we won't get far with
00:11:34as a programmer, nor as an architect, civil engineer, anything, this,
00:11:38but that's why we started it ourselves, I mean, that's some standard of quality
00:11:41that we accept, and then if that AI later becomes better than us, we are to
00:11:45blame ourselves, can that happen? Well, it certainly can for people who
00:11:49truly do their job superficially, honestly, because I am convinced that even a person
00:11:52who works as an administrative worker in general. "Mhm,
00:11:56has some knowledge that AI cannot, we all
00:11:59have to master, we all have that, now it's just a matter of whether that person will actually be
00:12:03like, oh, you're missing one paper, or will they solve
00:12:07the problems of people who come to them every day two, three, five, 10
00:12:10times, because they truly have a real problem, yes, Borislav,
00:12:14what, how, maybe that's more a question for doctors,
00:12:17psychologists, psychotherapists, but you work a lot with
00:12:21young people and you know how they function, with us and what their
00:12:24current status is on the labor market and we know how many baby
00:12:28boomers are somewhat leaving the labor market, and those who
00:12:31currently lead companies are precisely those baby boomers, however, the
00:12:35millennials and Alphas and Gen Z
00:12:38generations are coming to the market, how much
00:12:42do you actually see there
00:12:45that we will all have to adapt and actually precisely
00:12:49count on that new mindset of people, young
00:12:52people who have literally been raised and grown up. in another
00:12:56generation, that is, in another system, and how
00:12:59to reconcile these things, how challenging it will be, and how
00:13:02not challenging in a negative sense, but perhaps fun?
00:13:06Well, there are several
00:13:09layers of depth here, so the first thing we need to understand is
00:13:13that younger generations are
00:13:16much worse at what we were just talking about, something that is now becoming
00:13:19the most important, which is, unfortunately for them, and that's why I don't like that term.
00:13:23but it is currently the most relevant, that is the
00:13:26so-called set of soft skills, soft skills
00:13:29are no longer soft skills, they are now hard skills, that's where millennials
00:13:33and Alpha generations are weakest due to the influence of
00:13:36technology, social networks, delayed
00:13:39communication, mediated and so on, those are things, for example, I
00:13:43can see that through my students and through daily work and internships and
00:13:47so on, yes, you can have a brilliant young
00:13:50journalist, male or female, who are fantastic, so they
00:13:53resonate, have critical... opinion and all that, but these people, for
00:13:57example, cannot stand someone yelling at them, for example, and they quit because
00:14:01of that, so the essence here, now I say, AI is one
00:14:04indicator, one indicator
00:14:07of initiating these changes, is that young people
00:14:10must work much, much more on those, let's say, human
00:14:14dimensions in terms of communication,
00:14:17mediation, understanding, interpretation,
00:14:20uh, empathy and so on, more than the skills themselves, so, as we say,
00:14:24skills. for work, or rather work skills, that is what I say, in my
00:14:28opinion, is the most complex at the first level, on the other hand,
00:14:31we have a problem that I have been trying to
00:14:35raise in public discourse for years, it is the following, pay attention
00:14:39now, if you have young people in the education system, especially
00:14:43universities and you now have very powerful AI
00:14:46systems, and now imagine
00:14:49a student, a pupil, it doesn't matter, in high school who
00:14:52passes without problems through... education with
00:14:56AI, that is now possible to do, but pay attention to the paradox now, and that's where I catch them
00:14:59and I think that is mm in my opinion the correct pedagogical path,
00:15:03it is the following, if
00:15:07launch you through education, tomorrow when
00:15:10you knock on my door, instead of you, a Mac Mini will be sitting that does your
00:15:13job, so you have to sum two and two, you have to have that
00:15:17reasoning, so if I have a tool that helps me finish something that I will be doing tomorrow
00:15:21without breaking a sweat, then I won't have a job... tomorrow, so,
00:15:24I'm making a pact with the devil,
00:15:28so that I have more time now to launch
00:15:32myself through the educational process, tomorrow when it comes, I always simulate it for them through
00:15:35my mm perspective, you. knock on my door, I say,
00:15:39I'm sorry, but I don't need you, I have that same AI agent that you
00:15:42used, he does your job, that is
00:15:45I think that is where we need to look for, in my opinion,
00:15:48reasoning, especially in younger generations, yes,
00:15:52what do I gain if I just give in to,
00:15:55let's say, the tide, in terms of
00:15:59how the water carries me, so you are simply proving
00:16:02to yourself that you are superfluous, that is the point of my story,
00:16:06yes, very interesting... very interesting experiences and I'm glad
00:16:10we're talking about this topic this morning, somehow time
00:16:13flies too fast for me to ask everything I'm
00:16:17interested in, and I believe what interests our viewers and
00:16:20we will certainly open this topic again, so
00:16:24and try to open our eyes to us,
00:16:27older or more experienced, and those who are entering the labor market, so
00:16:30that we can, well, find that much-desired balance, both for those who
00:16:34are employed in the labor market and those who actually hire those
00:16:38people in the industry, thank you very much colleague for calling
00:16:41this morning, thank you for the invitation. Ermine,
00:16:45thank you very much for taking the time out of the sea of all the meetings that
00:16:49await you today, and a truly interesting topic, great context that
00:16:52my colleague gave, so thank you for the invitation. See you again,
00:16:56stay with us, a short break, then we go into the world to talk about some
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