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00:00:00doesn't express something ugly, he has to be very brave, so I don't believe that
00:00:03can happen, here with his foot he will cross Hungarian
00:00:06workers are not on the special forces here in the never clarified
00:00:10story how it is possible that Hungary is opening
00:00:13a center for fighting terrorism on the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, specifically
00:00:17near Banja Luka, and that nobody knows anything about it, nobody
00:00:21has a clue who gave consent, everyone, I'm not completely sure, if
00:00:25it's as you say, journalists have already asked me about it
00:00:28and I explain to them that the Hungarians are building some kind
00:00:32of center, that's not possible under our regulations, in fact it's not possible
00:00:35without the consent of the presidency, that is,
00:00:38in this case, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, if it's about
00:00:41police officers of the Ministry of Security,
00:00:45that cannot be done, any action in that sense is illegal, but what if it
00:00:49is done, if it's already underway, then the Prosecutor's Office of Bosnia and Herzegovina should
00:00:53take measures and use its competencies, well, they will, just as they do with
00:00:56other authorities, well, it should, it should probably, here since.
00:01:00You see, in these cases, Alajevo,
00:01:03Sarajevo, Safari, that we are waiting for
00:01:06foreign countries, in a case which, which
00:01:09is our real and local jurisdiction, we are waiting for the court in
00:01:13Milan to prosecute these individuals, were you, while you were in the position of director
00:01:17of the Federal Police Administration, investigating
00:01:20the arrivals of weekend killers from
00:01:22the neighborhood, but also from distant countries, no,
00:01:26I was aware of that problem a little earlier, given that
00:01:29they... operated in my zone of responsibility, primarily in
00:01:32the area of Novi Sarajevo, dozens of civilians,
00:01:36children, women were killed at those
00:01:40have, conditionally speaking, already been dismissed, at intersections. What I can say, I know that we documented every
00:01:43atrocity, all those atrocities, we
00:01:47reported everything to the then competent center of the Sarajevo Security
00:01:50Service, uh, we heard that it
00:01:54was happening, especially during 1993, and
00:01:57partly in 1994, and... we
00:02:00knew it was happening, but of course we didn't
00:02:03have the capacity to deal with it in that way, I'm talking about the formal
00:02:07legal sense now, however, what we did, we tried to do it seriously,
00:02:11we formed anti-sniper teams that operated against such
00:02:14individuals, how successful they were, I can't
00:02:18assess that, but for example, I remember one woman, sniper teams
00:02:22who took down those I remember
00:02:26one woman, according to our information, she was Romanian.
00:02:30citizen, she surely killed over 10
00:02:34people at the intersection near Jugokomerc, and we tried
00:02:38for months to fight and in that way to coordinate that
00:02:42kind of action, however, what is interesting and indicative to
00:02:45me is that from the hills around Sarajevo she killed in the city under
00:02:49siege, not just the Jewish cemetery, that is, along this whole line
00:02:53all the way to the houses of Majmunović, those who know
00:02:56Sarajevo know what I'm talking about, however, why was
00:02:59it? very difficult because they were entrenched, they had trenches in
00:03:03concrete for standing position and you can only catch that target
00:03:07when it changes firing position from one to another, so that
00:03:10it pops out somewhere while moving through those positions, i.e.,
00:03:14through those trenches, that's a very specific job and very difficult
00:03:18to neutralize someone in that way because they never shoot, they don't
00:03:22come out to the window, but are inside the building, ten meters away
00:03:26and so on, you investigated and documented that, and where did it end
00:03:29up, just... just to finish, then we collected information from people
00:03:33who were crossing from Grbavica, we actually knew
00:03:37when even those foreigners came, how much
00:03:39and to what extent it was documented, I really can't
00:03:43assess, however, what we knew was that, starting from this
00:03:46Duke Aleksić to this Bernet who, on one occasion, if I'm not mistaken,
00:03:49on April 21st, attacked with a Chetnik
00:03:52unit the position of Novi Sarajevo, and
00:03:56even this, if Vasil Jevidović, that's the third one. Among
00:04:00others, the Chetnik commander, we had
00:04:03information that they were accepting these people for money, that these people were coming from
00:04:07all countries of Western Europe, mostly from
00:04:10the Republic of Italy, that
00:04:12marks, so do they ever think they had these guides who brought them to these firing positions, how much
00:04:15they acted, I even know that there are some
00:04:19living witnesses, regardless of the fact that these three, here,
00:04:22died under quite strange circumstances, in a short
00:04:26time, in a short time, who could eventually testify.
00:04:30To that, then in that context, the other day on public
00:04:33service we listened to Aleksandar
00:04:36Vučić's tirade, who defends himself again, saying
00:04:39he wasn't there, he didn't participate, now in fact he was
00:04:42a translator, he no longer dealt with, right,
00:04:46writing information,
00:04:48so anyone who wants to see that, there's
00:04:52his video, a man in a maroon jacket, carrying a semi-automatic
00:04:55rifle M59 x 66 7
00:04:5862 mm. "But it's not my job to
00:05:02claim yes or no, it's the state prosecutor's job to
00:05:06address that issue, including
00:05:09him, including these living witnesses, and I see there's someone..."
00:05:12police, let's really see what happened, ultimately to
00:05:16help based on the mechanism of international legal assistance
00:05:19the Italian judiciary, if people are serious about it, and
00:05:23I think he talked, Vučić excused himself saying he carried, that he carried an umbrella
00:05:27and a tripod for the camera, did you have
00:05:31information while you worked in the Federal Police Administration, and previously,
00:05:34when you were a police officer
00:05:38during the war, that Vučić shot at the besieged
00:05:41city? We had that information,
00:05:45but we didn't deal with the individual documentation of that,
00:05:48given that it was primarily the jurisdiction of the Canton of Sarajevo at that time,
00:05:52meaning I'm talking about those individual acts, now there were
00:05:56cases of execution, for example, of some massive war
00:05:59crimes, like the Korićanska Stijena case where over 200
00:06:03people were killed, we dealt with such types of cases that
00:06:07required special knowledge and skills, for example, to
00:06:10get to those bodies, especially our... special police units,
00:06:14so that, for example, it was known at certain times that to reach
00:06:17certain bodies, we knew to use two or three
00:06:21complete sets of mountaineering equipment, because those people were, for example, thrown into pits
00:06:25that you cannot reach, which were mined, then you need to
00:06:28clear them, and then descend tens of meters into those pits to
00:06:32get to those bodies, that's very, very, very
00:06:36problematic, very complex, and there was a lot
00:06:39of work, but mostly we stuck to those... conditionally speaking,
00:06:43mass crimes, of course, when the court and prosecutor's office asked
00:06:46us for assistance in that regard, everything that was available to the police, we, who is
00:06:50the person you described precisely just now, even
00:06:54the type of rifle she carried? Mr. Vučić, was
00:06:58in the company of Šešelj,
00:07:00so you claim that what he's carrying is a rifle, the man is carrying
00:07:04a semi-automatic rifle in a maroon jacket, 100%, so
00:07:08there's no doubt, and he can say whatever he wants, and instead
00:07:11of a man... that tirade he's giving us here for 55
00:07:15minutes, who represents evil for at least half of the citizens
00:07:18of Serbia, you bring him here and advertise him, that's
00:07:22beyond my comprehension, this is not the first time in Bosnia
00:07:25and Herzegovina, and instead of someone from the prosecutor's office, here, I don't
00:07:29claim he shot, go ahead and determine if he did or not, how will you determine
00:07:33that, I don't know, what you said tonight is very important, that in the end
00:07:37you, as a man of experience, of knowledge, claim that
00:07:40what Vučić is carrying in the video with Šešelj is a rifle,
00:07:44and he says it's an umbrella, but if
00:07:47a man in any way, says he led pages,
00:07:51he wasn't a successful leader, okay, if in any
00:07:54way you show remorse, why are you here, what are you
00:07:58doing here, what are you doing here, to say, my
00:08:02people, I understand, maybe I shouldn't have been, or to apologize in any
00:08:05way, you ignore it
00:08:07as if, and then you come here and lecture me, but that's
00:08:11a disgrace. a shame for those who work in these bodies, it's a disgrace
00:08:15and a shame for that prosecutor's office of Bosnia and Herzegovina, but it's no wonder when
00:08:19they hide these individual cases that are, in
00:08:22inverted commas, less important, what then do we expect when the question is for whom
00:08:26all those prosecutors work, well we'll see, in time it will come out, it will come out,
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00:10:13Pressing, state parliamentarian, former head of the federal police, Zlatko
00:10:16Milić, tonight's guest. We went through a lot in the first
00:10:20part of the show, but in this second part I want to ask you first,
00:10:23Zlatko. "How do you, as
00:10:27a parliamentarian, as a former police chief, but above all as
00:10:31a citizen, as a parent, view
00:10:34all this we are going through, general crime, corruption,
00:10:37lawlessness, young people leaving,
00:10:40chaos, in the health and various other systems in
00:10:44this country, what hurts you most in all that,
00:10:46boli,
00:10:49well, I have to say, I remember a song by
00:10:52the late Oliver Dragojević, "Stijene."
00:10:55"And it says, the sea has worn it away, in
00:10:59essence, they have worn out my soul, everything
00:11:02that was positive, in essence I have no emotions,
00:11:06I can't laugh, and I would cry, nor can I cry,
00:11:10meaning in essence the only thing left for me
00:11:12and why I'm doing all this, of course
00:11:16primarily for my children, but all children in Bosnia and Herzegovina, no matter what
00:11:20they are called and how they are called, I will remain
00:11:23steadfast on this path to do everything... that is within my power to do, to
00:11:27improve, at least in any segment, the quality of life
00:11:31of our citizens, here, let me give you another example of why
00:11:34our young people are leaving, we recently had amendments to the law by colleague
00:11:38Smajić regarding these members of the armed forces,
00:11:41soldiers, to extend their military service and stay, and
00:11:45now, uh, we almost consensually agreed that it would be
00:11:4849 years, to speed up that story, about
00:11:52250 of them last year, conditionally speaking,
00:11:55lost their jobs and people are begging me, Mr. Smajić,
00:11:59please bring us back, God, we can't bring them back, or they
00:12:05the commission I learned for defense and security that
00:12:08from the Ministry of Defense that they wanted, that they could have
00:12:12kept them because there is a legal article that the minister and deputy
00:12:16could have kept them in service for another year until
00:12:19the law came into effect, but what's the lesson?
00:12:23After that session, I have messages on my phone, at least
00:12:27three guys from three different nations tell me that
00:12:30the only thing left for them is to leave this
00:12:33country, why? They received an advance, one guy is in Derventa
00:12:37and drives some kind of trailer and he tells me, Zlaja, they gave
00:12:40me that trailer, so they didn't give him money, they gave him
00:12:43a trailer, he says, I have no life here, I have nothing
00:12:47to drive with this trailer, the other one talks about how they bought him some
00:12:51drills, he says, "Believe me, look, in my village
00:12:54where... I live, I have nothing to do," I joke with him, I said, from that movie
00:12:57"Who's Singing Over There," go out into
00:13:01the street, block the road, drill,
00:13:04and what do people tell me, those three from three different nations,
00:13:08we have no choice but to leave Bosnia and Herzegovina to work somewhere
00:13:11abroad, that's how people leave us, and instead of dedicating
00:13:14themselves, there are no places in the armed forces, if they already have
00:13:18a shortage of police officers in the border police, why didn't someone
00:13:21retrain them for a month of training, give them
00:13:25border police officers, all 250 of them, but
00:13:27people don't, they are not interested in anyone's
00:13:30fate, then another question arises, why is colleague Smajić
00:13:34proposing that law, why didn't the Ministry of Defense propose it, because we
00:13:38hear their praises of how they care for their
00:13:41soldiers, and it should be a shame first for those generals, and indeed these from the Ministry
00:13:45of Defense, that they put them in such a situation, then in whatever
00:13:49segment of life and work you enter, here, if
00:13:52you analyze the average salary in Bosnia and Herzegovina, it's about 650
00:13:55marks, if you see that the consumer basket is
00:13:593,300, that half of the citizens of this country
00:14:02cannot pay 50% of that basket, I've told you everything,
00:14:06that our inflation is 4.4%
00:14:09in Europe, which is complaining, while Damjanov Zalenko's is
00:14:132.2%, meaning ours is double
00:14:15that, that these obstinate, these white-collar
00:14:19criminals go to the supermarket, I was there yesterday,
00:14:23today, pardon me, I was there and... "I want Nutella, let me not
00:14:26say which store, please, Nutella in that big jar
00:14:30costs 19 marks, you don't have any vegetable,
00:14:33any greens that aren't eight or nine
00:14:37about how our citizens, especially these
00:14:39poor people who live on 600-700 marks, well, they can't afford a kilo
00:14:43of that, let alone meat, I mean,
00:14:46I can't understand that people don't care about
00:14:50the problems of the ordinary citizen, the ordinary citizen,
00:14:53they only care about... themselves, it's very easy to find out, let them leave
00:14:57their offices, let them take a walk, let them hear,
00:15:00let people tell them directly, I saw the new mayor the other day, the man
00:15:03is on the streets every
00:15:07day, talking to people, listening, writing, proposing,
00:15:10I mean, but excuse me for interrupting you, they've just become related,
00:15:14they've sued the people, right? They have cars driving them around, they have
00:15:18paid vehicles, they have, they don't pay for gas, they don't pay for phones,
00:15:22they receive salaries of 6-7,000, they have. 300
00:15:25to 400,000 to spend annually,
00:15:29secretaries, advisors, a fig tree, what do they need in
00:15:32life, how much do they care about that person who has nothing, what happens in
00:15:36people's heads especially. "Those who allegedly
00:15:38fight for citizens, for workers, when they come to power, those
00:15:43map, then when you attack them, you tell them, well,
00:15:47people, stop, you didn't say that, you promised something completely
00:15:50different, they get even angrier,
00:15:52još,
00:15:54hungry eyes, greed, it's simple, I don't know, it's probably
00:15:58genetically natural, but people, they can't control themselves
00:16:02in that way, or they don't show any
00:16:05empathy, please, 50%
00:16:08of citizens in Bosnia and Herzegovina live on the brink
00:16:12of poverty, so how can you go to bed, how can you
00:16:16go to bed knowing that someone has no medicine for
00:16:19Serbs, Croats, others, and they swear by them,
00:16:22everyone swears by someone, well, unfortunately, but however,
00:16:26to a large extent, I must say that the responsibility lies with the citizens and peoples of this
00:16:29country, but spurred by what is happening in Republika
00:16:33Srpska, we must not lose hope, here I
00:16:36hope and... I am very surprised positively by the result of
00:16:40Professor Blanuša, that he managed in that way
00:16:43to win the trust of the citizens, meaning
00:16:46someone who is unblemished, who has integrity, who has not been
00:16:49in politics at all until now, meaning those citizens, they are citizens of Bosnia and
00:16:53Herzegovina, citizens of Republika Srpska, apparently they recognized something
00:16:56in that man, maybe that's a good benchmark for these people from
00:17:00the Federation, that when they nominate some people,
00:17:04well, nominate someone who has never been anything." "We can't,
00:17:08I can't, nor can those who have been sitting in
00:17:12institutions for 40 years, help these young people here, well, it's clear
00:17:16that it's time for new people, for successful, for capable, for
00:17:19educated people, money won't change these and such
00:17:23parties, we would enter something new, clean,
00:17:27modern, I mean something that actually suggests
00:17:31some success, some justice, some
00:17:34honesty, some progress, I was, excuse me, the other day..." I watched
00:17:37and I watched in two or three countries certain
00:17:40certain information about the education of young people there, it's incredible,
00:17:44in four or five Western European countries, for example, in elementary schools
00:17:47children don't have grades at all from the sixth or seventh grade, in
00:17:51Japan, the first four or five years of elementary
00:17:54school, children learn only four subjects, there are no
00:17:58grades at all, children learn how to love nature, how to eat
00:18:02healthy, how to respect their elders and their
00:18:05teacher, so the teacher is... excuse my expression,
00:18:09God, so they learn these things,
00:18:12household management, so they learn
00:18:15about life, here our children are so
00:18:18burdened, that profession is perhaps the most undervalued
00:18:22in Bosnia and Herzegovina, if I'm not mistaken, the former
00:18:25president of Turkey, Atatürk, said that it is the most important
00:18:29profession in a country, that I know Turkey has changed
00:18:33those measures, that these professors, teachers, we are talking about all
00:18:36levels of education. "They should be paid like representatives,
00:18:40because they are the bearers of our social system, from them,
00:18:44they teach our children what this country should be like in five, 10 years,
00:18:48the other day I was surprised, I hear a
00:18:51university professor from Turkey received
00:18:54a diplomatic passport,
00:18:56then I have to ask if that is actually the practice in that country, that
00:19:00professors are valued to such an extent that they
00:19:03receive a diplomatic passport, well, why not, why not?"
00:19:07"Everyone gets it, but I don't know about professors, here it's
00:19:10especially when it comes to that highest level of education, especially when
00:19:14it comes to scientific titles, well, look at
00:19:17who are our doctors of science, people have no
00:19:20idea about the simplest things in life, when you
00:19:24ask them, they don't know where they graduated from, they don't know
00:19:26their mentors, they don't know who their examiners were, they don't know what their
00:19:30thesis is, they don't know what their scientific papers are and so on, I mean,
00:19:34I'm telling you, we are ripe for..."
00:19:39Excuse me, excuse me, just to finish, very interesting
00:19:42data, but that's why citizens address me, not
00:19:45the competent prosecutor's office that
00:19:48accuses, for example, Dragan Čović of falsifying his master's
00:19:51degree, I tell people, among others,
00:19:54one, one of those people, by his misfortune, was his
00:19:57prisoner in Sokol,
00:20:00imagine, so you bring your professor to forced
00:20:03labor, a man you should have passed an exam with, meaning
00:20:07you never passed it, not only with him, but with two others, and the man
00:20:11later boasts that he is a master, that he is a doctor of science, an honorary
00:20:15doctor, he has everything, that's not an affair, man,
00:20:18a criminal, a recidivist in committing criminal acts, and that's okay, in this
00:20:21society, well, if it's okay, then let him do whatever
00:20:25he wants, you say you won't stop
00:20:27fighting, this is the time for people to declare, will
00:20:30they be candidates, will they not, will you be a candidate, I've
00:20:34read on social media, "People are encouraging you to be
00:20:37a candidate for a member of the presidency, will you?" I said that and this
00:20:41recently, here I will repeat it for the 55th time, so indeed
00:20:44when it comes to holding that office, I have no
00:20:48affinity. My only goal
00:20:51is that the biggest evil in Bosnia and
00:20:55Herzegovina doesn't run for that office. I said, in
00:20:58case he runs or eventually, God forbid, there's a breakup of Bosnia and
00:21:02Herzegovina, if that doesn't happen, I will not
00:21:05run. There will be an opportunity for
00:21:08citizens, I will wait for them to declare on that, they promised in
00:21:12the third or fourth month, whenever that is, when they
00:21:15come out with those facts about the candidacy
00:21:18of the representative, the candidate... or female candidate of the HDZ, I will say what
00:21:22I have on that matter and I will explain everything to the citizens why
00:21:25and how. So, the message is, if Čović is a
00:21:28candidate, you will be too. Do you think you would
00:21:31beat him? Well, I
00:21:33am sure. Regardless of the fact that I have no
00:21:37assumptions for that, I have one
00:21:40single assumption, which is the love of these citizens, or sympathy? I have nothing
00:21:44else, but I am convinced, I am convinced that I would succeed in that
00:21:48fight. "I say it's time now to announce
00:21:52candidacies, eight months, uh, before
00:21:55the elections, on the one hand, a complete lack
00:21:59of responsibility from the ruling trio, even anger,
00:22:02attacks on all those who criticize them, who
00:22:06try to explain to them that what they're doing is not good, on the other
00:22:10hand, the SDA, which has been in power for decades, now sees this as, well, people
00:22:13will be for us, well,
00:22:17they'll remove the trio and the SDA will come.
00:22:20How does that look to you and does the
00:22:22SDA have anything to hope for? I
00:22:26know a large number of citizens who
00:22:29really don't trust either side.
00:22:32Who the citizens will choose remains to be seen, as people say here.
00:22:36However,
00:22:39uh, you must admit that the SDA is experienced
00:22:43in a political sense, meaning they have ruled for 30 years,
00:22:45which doesn't mean that citizens have
00:22:49forgotten how they ruled, so when
00:22:52I mention these two, in the same context, Izedbegović
00:22:56as a person is also responsible for
00:22:58this situation, meaning I'm not
00:23:02comparing him as if he is the same as them, but
00:23:06through his inaction and his political leadership, as he
00:23:09led for decades, I believe he contributed greatly
00:23:13to this, I'm not saying anything bad about the SDA as
00:23:16a political party, in the SDA, and in the HDZ, SNSD.
00:23:20In a political party, there are good people, and I think it's high time that
00:23:24all those who have been in politics for a long time step aside, give space to
00:23:27young new people, I think, if nothing else, it will bring
00:23:31some new energy, and even if they are inexperienced and don't
00:23:33know much, I think they will still be more dedicated than these
00:23:37who are now in any other position, young people from Bosnia and Herzegovina, but also, I swear,
00:23:41from the diaspora, here they are also showing increasing interest
00:23:44in returning to engage in
00:23:47politics here, I must... I must tell you that recently,
00:23:51a few months ago, Mr. Alispahić, you probably know him, who
00:23:54lives in Sydney and hosts a well-known podcast there, I was
00:23:58he even visited once, he asked all of us representatives and we, we
00:24:02have now proposed it to the opposition, uh,
00:24:05to make changes to the election law, the law,
00:24:08to allow our, I don't like to call them diaspora, that's an ugly term for me,
00:24:11emigration, to enable electronic
00:24:14voting, meaning no walking, that people don't have to go from city to
00:24:18city, I think. I think that would greatly change the image of
00:24:22Bosnia and Herzegovina, at least in the sense that
00:24:26they would have the right to elect those people or that they would elect those
00:24:30people who really think about them, who think about their
00:24:33return in the end, who will
00:24:36provide them with better conditions so that when they come to live
00:24:40with with with with with security with all insured living conditions
00:24:43in their own country, not to go anywhere. The economy could significantly
00:24:47change the image of Bosnia and Herzegovina, do you believe? that these
00:24:51investments that are being announced from all sides,
00:24:53especially from America, will be realized? Well, I believe
00:24:57that they will be, essentially, by our will, although there will be problems
00:25:01as far as I can see, at least regarding the status of
00:25:04state property, what is state property and what is not, although
00:25:08I see that some leaders of this political unwillingly
00:25:12say that verbally, we have nothing against it, but
00:25:15whether they really think that, I don't know, however, I see that as very good.
00:25:20A chance, especially for some cities in Bosnia and Herzegovina to further
00:25:23develop,
00:25:25plus to have an alternative when it comes to energy, I think
00:25:29that will bring additional enthusiasm, that our people
00:25:33who work in certain construction and some other
00:25:36companies will be employed and simply open up space in that sense, what I
00:25:39don't like, I don't like that intention or desire,
00:25:43for example, to give them the airport in Sarajevo, I don't know why anything should be
00:25:47given to them,
00:25:49uh, a company or... an enterprise that operates very positively, that is developing very
00:25:53well and I think that shouldn't be done that way,
00:25:56especially since these companies that are interested in that type
00:26:00of concession in that type of business have
00:26:03no experience, I think that shouldn't be done, all the rest when it comes to
00:26:07gas or gas interconnection,
00:26:10I think it should go in that direction, not just to develop
00:26:13it, by God, yes, we should, we should develop
00:26:16hydropower potentials and some other things, and in
00:26:20cooperation with neighboring countries, I'm not against that, by God,
00:26:23it's finally time to resolve the issue with Croatia and Serbia,
00:26:27there was an opportunity to solve it with this law, nobody mentioned that,
00:26:31the issue of water fees. "How much Bosnia and Herzegovina, I
00:26:34guarantee you that we lose about 100 million euros annually from
00:26:38neighboring countries because they don't want to pay us, is it realistic that Bosnia and
00:26:41Herzegovina builds something together with Serbia and over here
00:26:45with Croatia, well why not, I believe that the time will come
00:26:49in the Republic of Serbia that some new people will come to power
00:26:52then who will understand
00:26:56or look at Bosnia and Herzegovina differently, who will not
00:26:59have territorial pretensions or any other kind.
00:27:03"I think also when it comes to the
00:27:06government in the Republic of Croatia,
00:27:09I'm only talking about parts of the regime, I think it's
00:27:12finally time to let us solve our internal problems
00:27:15among ourselves, let them not
00:27:19dictate how and what to do, to judge us, I hear this more and more often
00:27:22as statements, they say you will never join the European Union, I don't
00:27:26know if I become a member of the presidency,
00:27:29I mean, first, that makes no sense, second..."
00:27:32Such a way of talking to your neighbors, I think is
00:27:35inappropriate, third, when it comes to this Trgovska Gora, that it's
00:27:39forced that way, I think nobody
00:27:43benefits from it, we all suffer losses, both us and them, so at least
00:27:47regarding Trgovska Gora, we all united from Bosnia and Herzegovina, we
00:27:50are all together against that landfill, so
00:27:53if someone else just starts to consider starting these
00:27:56processes, at least these international protection mechanisms, I
00:28:00think if that is done completely... it's certain that in
00:28:03terms of law, we will win that case guaranteed, well, here
00:28:07we are at the end of the show, we have already exceeded the time limit, thank you
00:28:10Mr. Militić, thank you for the invitation, even though there were
00:28:13difficult topics, I think that somewhere there is
00:28:16at least some optimism in the signs that, well,
00:28:19we haven't touched on much, for example the catcher, miracles,
00:28:23that's interesting, yes, yes, that, that, that's important, the situation in your, well,
00:28:27I won't sign off until you, that, I forgot that, I admit, the situation
00:28:31in your former institution, the Federal Police Administration,
00:28:34it seems there's total chaos there,
00:28:37and what about the catcher, that listening device? Well, this morning, today I
00:28:41received information, essentially, nobody has seriously started working on that yet,
00:28:44I think that is first concerning,
00:28:47that so much time has passed that, according to the information I
00:28:51have, for years, for several years, over 400
00:28:55people have been wiretapped, that nobody from
00:28:58the prosecutor's office, that it's not known who should do that, that's very
00:29:01important to me. Or who uses that device, who manages it? No, no, they
00:29:05used it from 2016 to 2022, however, what I found out also
00:29:09in the meantime, in other segments of crime
00:29:12which I will not talk about on this occasion, who are they? These
00:29:16individual representatives of the Federal Police Administration, all that was in
00:29:19the past period. Among other things, in connection with that, they issued an instruction,
00:29:23and I hear about it today, I was very surprised, although I had already heard
00:29:27some public gossip about it, that among
00:29:30other things, they have the right, on the basis of an order, of the
00:29:33director to go to telecom operators, request
00:29:37call records of conversations about certain people,
00:29:41conversations that those people had without a warrant
00:29:44from the court or prosecutor's office of any level,
00:29:47I must tell you that I am appalled, hmm, now in the context of Article
00:29:51116 of the Criminal Procedure Law which deals with
00:29:54the use of, for example, that measure, that is not
00:29:58allowed by law, that is a criminal offense, and they are still doing it
00:30:01today. "And here I advise my
00:30:05colleagues, some former, some current,
00:30:09who are doing it, that they should let people go, I hope that the election of that
00:30:12director, director or deputy, will happen, there will be
00:30:16a lot of work to put that in order, to say that at
00:30:19different levels,
00:30:22from this state prosecutor's office to the cantons,
00:30:25there are certainly six or seven investigations that are being
00:30:28conducted on different grounds against different
00:30:31officials. That's not
00:30:33good and it leads to nothing, and I think
00:30:37a serious restructuring needs to be done there to
00:30:40trust that institution, who to trust if you can't trust the police,
00:30:44well, it's not that you can't trust 90% of police
00:30:47officers there and anywhere else who honestly do their
00:30:50job, but you must know also, like the prosecutor's office in other
00:30:54bodies, that you have 5 or 10% of those who
00:30:58ruin all that then...