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00:00:00nothing new, always boring, but somehow
00:00:03always, well, always that certain, how should I say,
00:00:06potential possibility
00:00:08for for raising tensions always exists, so, that
00:00:12is, that is something that is proven, that works for 30 years,
00:00:16that, uh, that narrative of fear
00:00:19is always present, of being threatened by one another,
00:00:23others by the first, third, and so on, so that is something that is always
00:00:26present, I hope that it won't be, that people are a little
00:00:30smarter and that they will
00:00:33choose, well, let's hope, based on some political
00:00:36program, I haven't seen many of those political programs,
00:00:40uh, I think people still, how should I say, go for very
00:00:43cheap, simple slogans, because
00:00:47how, how should I say, if you don't have, if it's permanently, if politicians
00:00:50are permanently in the field, then you practically don't
00:00:53care about any programs, because we practically need from that September 4th
00:00:57to have a, as a starting position, so everyone from
00:01:01that September 4th starts from the same, from the same starting
00:01:04point, it's not happening, so, we all saw
00:01:08everyone was out, everyone was doing something and
00:01:11lo and behold, in that election year, yes, Elvira,
00:01:15for the end, for the first time citizens will have
00:01:19this new technology
00:01:23zaista povećati povjerenje u
00:01:26so considering the the electoral process or will doubts in the results remain without
00:01:30Well, I think that, uh,
00:01:33all data indicates that it should eliminate
00:01:36the most basic, how should I say, electoral manipulations, so I really
00:01:40hope that electoral will help in the process
00:01:44so that, uh, elections are fair, transparent,
00:01:48as much as possible within Bosnia and Herzegovina,
00:01:51that these, uh, so to speak, main obstacles or their main
00:01:55mechanisms for stealing votes will be removed
00:01:59and that we will... have somewhat fairer elections compared
00:02:02to the previous ones, of course, I think voters should have
00:02:06been informed earlier about the voting process, uh, how
00:02:10to approach it, so, I think the campaign here
00:02:13uh started late, uh, but it's not that
00:02:17difficult, so, it's enough to watch
00:02:20two or three videos and and and it will be, it will be very, very
00:02:24simple, so, technologies are not
00:02:27an obstacle, so technologies should help that process be as
00:02:30efficient as possible, I believe it will be. Elvira,
00:02:34thank you very much for your time and for being a guest on N1 TV's morning program,
00:02:38dear viewers, stay tuned for a new day.
00:02:55Vučić to A large fire broke out yesterday
00:02:57in Konjic, the fire affected part of the pine forest. Live
00:03:01with us Husein Hodžić, Assistant
00:03:03capacities at the federal level or I don't know at Mayor in the Civil Protection and Firefighting Service of the City of Konjic, Mr.
00:03:07Hodžić, good day, please tell us what the
00:03:11current situation is in Repovica, is the fire under
00:03:14control?
00:03:17Good day from Konjic, the situation this morning is much better than
00:03:21yesterday, during the night, all fire brigades
00:03:24were on the ground and managed to bring the fire under
00:03:28control, so now I have... a much better situation than it was
00:03:31yesterday, yes, how many teams are on the ground, have
00:03:35you requested, yesterday there was some information about a helicopter from the armed
00:03:39forces, but also a Canadair from Croatia?
00:03:43Yes, all, all available
00:03:45and,
00:03:53hello, continue, continue, Mr. Hodžić, it seems
00:03:56someone called you.
00:04:00That's right, that's right, all the teams we had, we immediately
00:04:03engaged yesterday, although we still have several fires in the area
00:04:07of our municipality, we organized
00:04:10ourselves in a short time and we had a lot of people there, besides the firefighters
00:04:13themselves, volunteers, our
00:04:16other services that deal with protection and rescue, there were also many
00:04:19citizens, so we all together
00:04:23organized very quickly and
00:04:26started extinguishing, the most important thing was to save...
00:04:30buildings, given that there were many houses nearby, many commercial
00:04:33buildings, fortunately we succeeded
00:04:35there, at that moment, indeed, every help
00:04:39was needed, so assistance was requested in
00:04:42the form of helicopters,
00:04:46it was communicated whether it was possible to provide that support
00:04:50in the form of a Canadair, so we
00:04:52had those promises, that they could be realized during the
00:04:56day, but fortunately the situation improved overnight.
00:05:00and we don't need to engage such
00:05:03resources this morning, yes, do you have data on how large
00:05:06an area was affected by the fire, do you perhaps already have an
00:05:10estimate of the damage?
00:05:13Well, look, at this moment it is very difficult, but the mere fact that
00:05:17the entire railway line, somewhere around 400,
00:05:20caught fire in a short time and the entire hill
00:05:23was burning, so it is indeed a
00:05:27grim picture, given that it enters the city itself, that these are
00:05:31in a way the lungs of the city,
00:05:33but it is what it is, unfortunately we are fighting
00:05:37the consequences, it is clear to us that preventative
00:05:40activities must be better, that
00:05:43all those who deal
00:05:46with their own, so to speak, work must raise the level
00:05:49of fire protection to a higher level, and
00:05:52here we are struggling with this railway line where the
00:05:56train passes, because every year we have several such fires there, and
00:05:59they often get out of control due to the steep,
00:06:02inaccessible terrain, then we have
00:06:06great damage, especially on forest
00:06:09land, yes, Mr. Hodžić, a little... earlier you said that
00:06:13several more fires are active in the
00:06:17municipality of Konjic, where exactly are they in the
00:06:20municipality?
00:06:22Well, for several days now we have had several active
00:06:26fires, that's the area of Mount Bitovinje, in the local
00:06:29community of Glavatićevo around the area of
00:06:32Ratkamen, then the local community of Bjelimići, the villages of
00:06:35Ljuta, Ljubuča,
00:06:38capacities we have at the local level, we are constantly all on...
00:06:42the field and we are really tired and
00:06:46exhausted, but here with human effort
00:06:49we are trying to reach everywhere, at least to
00:06:52be where it is most needed, that is near buildings, houses, and to avoid
00:06:56much damage. Yes, is there a possibility to
00:06:59increase capacities, considering that, as you said,
00:07:03from season to season we witness numerous
00:07:06fires, such is the area,
00:07:08Herzegovina, hot, you yourself mentioned that situation
00:07:13with the railway, are there any, any
00:07:16possibility to
00:07:18strengthen the capacities regarding firefighting in
00:07:22Konjic? Well, through
00:07:25past periods, taught by our experience, we really
00:07:28invested a lot in equipment, in
00:07:31the capacities we have, but when you have a fire
00:07:35in one day in five different
00:07:38locations, that exceeds all capacities of one...
00:07:42local community, no matter how well equipped it is, what
00:07:46is a positive example this and last year is
00:07:49this engagement of air tractors, where the
00:07:52cantonal civil protection administration, together with other cantons and the government of the federation,
00:07:55launched this procedure, it really
00:07:59is efficient and helps
00:08:02and we have a quick response, the arrival
00:08:05of those tractors to the field if there are no fires
00:08:09in other parts, so we should...
00:08:12consider strengthening these
00:08:16what level, because one local community, no matter how
00:08:19well equipped, when you have fires in one day in five different
00:08:23locations, and especially if it lasts for days,
00:08:27it's impossible to respond to all of that
00:08:30qualitatively, timely and
00:08:32professionally. Mr. Hodžić, thank you very much for your
00:08:36time, I hope that this fire in Repavica
00:08:40will be completely extinguished. Thank you for
00:08:43the call. Husein Hodžić from the Civil Protection of the City of
00:08:47Konjic was a guest on Novi dan. Stay with us. A short break then
00:08:51we continue with other topics.
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00:11:00The glorification of convicted war criminal Ratko Mladić has once again raised the question
00:11:04of how far our society is from confronting its past. After his
00:11:08death, we witnessed gatherings where the war
00:11:11criminal was celebrated, as well as numerous reports for glorifying war
00:11:15crimes. At the same time, the right-wing is gaining strength across Europe. The latest example
00:11:18comes from Germany where the AfD won about 44%
00:11:22of the votes in the elections in Saxony-Anhalt.
00:11:25A result that strongly resonated across Europe, and Bosnia
00:11:28and Herzegovina is in a pre-election campaign, national themes, war
00:11:32heritage, fear and identity are once
00:11:36citizens on October 4th decide who they will give
00:11:39their trust to. Is the strengthening of the right-wing a European trend that will spill over to
00:11:43Bosnia and Herzegovina and why are war criminals today
00:11:46used for political mobilization? Can the pre-election
00:11:49campaign once again be a campaign of fear and division? We discuss
00:11:53this with Vedran Džihić, a political
00:11:55researcher from the Institute for International Politics in Vienna, good morning and thank
00:11:59you for speaking for a new day. Good morning from
00:12:02Vienna. Let's start with what happened
00:12:06after the death of Ratko Mladić, we saw his glorification,
00:12:09rallies, denial of war crimes. What does that
00:12:13tell us, Mr. Džihić, about the society we live in today?
00:12:15Well, I would highlight three
00:12:19central messages, three central
00:12:22factors, that can be seen from these events
00:12:26uh in the last few days,
00:12:29the first thing is that here we see a
00:12:32clear, uh, continuity uh, of a
00:12:35nationalist Serbia which
00:12:39has roots in the 80s, at
00:12:42the beginning of mobilization,
00:12:45nationalist mobilization by Slobodan Milošević, extends through the entire
00:12:4990s, then with a brief
00:12:52exception of the phase when Zoran Đinđić was
00:12:56prime minister, it extends to today, meaning that
00:12:59continuity uh, of nationalist
00:13:02mobilization which is skillfully
00:13:04used to mobilize voters and
00:13:08the electorate and to secure power is something
00:13:11that is frightening, something that
00:13:15indicates the fact that Serbian society is not
00:13:19managing to transform towards an open
00:13:22democratic, emancipated society that is founded on
00:13:26liberal democratic values, so that continuity
00:13:29of nationalism, and at the same time
00:13:32of course authoritarianism or autocracy, is really
00:13:36concerning, as it has been going on for almost 40
00:13:39years since Slobodan Milošević took power
00:13:42in '86, '87 onwards, uh, the second factor
00:13:46which is, which is, which is in my opinion
00:13:49visible is, uh,
00:13:52a,
00:13:54let's say, civilizational, a civilizational moment,
00:13:57uh, which is 12, we are in
00:14:002026, uh, and we should start
00:14:04from the premise that there is a minimum
00:14:07of standards of civilizational values that apply
00:14:11uh, globally and throughout the world.
00:14:15Serbia here, with the
00:14:17glorification of criminals and
00:14:21crimes that are unprecedented,
00:14:24uh, besides the Second World War onwards in
00:14:28the whole of Europe, it places itself outside of those
00:14:31civilizational values, uh,
00:14:34it shows that it is ready, that is, that the current
00:14:37government, uh, or the current regime, is ready, uh, to
00:14:41for the sake of political power, leave all those civilizational values aside,
00:14:44uh, in that way show an inhuman,
00:14:48inhumane, uh, character, meaning there is nothing
00:14:52holier or more important than human life, uh... "and
00:14:55of course, to celebrate someone who is responsible for
00:14:58so many, uh, lost human lives
00:15:02is truly an overstepping of all civilizational values and that
00:15:06cannot go without consequences, uh, the third, the third
00:15:09factor, to conclude, is about
00:15:13the character of Aleksandar Vučić's regime, of course, with
00:15:16Aleksandar Vučić himself we have a continuity of glorifying
00:15:20Ratko Mladić from the 90s onwards, we remember 97,
00:15:2498, 99, his role as
00:15:27Minister of Information
00:15:29uh, and promoting the values that
00:15:33Ratko Mladić advocated, so that's one thing, but the other thing
00:15:37is that... his eternal attempt to, for the sake
00:15:40of maintaining power, do everything
00:15:44that is necessary and to bend, in quotation marks, and
00:15:47wriggle in every possible way, and here this act, this de
00:15:51facto state funeral, de facto funeral with
00:15:55state and military honors for Mladić,
00:15:58to which he then sends his son, where
00:16:01Serbian government ministers appear, he at the same time, due to
00:16:05supposedly some other appointments, uh,
00:16:08does not attend that funeral and that act
00:16:12is precisely such a pragmatic move, meaning I want to
00:16:16mobilize, uh, my voters, to
00:16:19maintain my nationalist ideological story, uh,
00:16:23to show that it is alive, that I am the protector of that
00:16:25fictitious proud Serbia which has nothing to be proud
00:16:29of in this specific case, and at the same time
00:16:33uh, behind the scenes, uh, to officials in the European Union,
00:16:38I send a message, I can't do it any other way, I have to
00:16:41do this, because the pressure from the right-wing is enormous, I
00:16:45am the one who is pragmatic and who will find some
00:16:48kind of a way out of all that, so all of that, what
00:16:52he has been doing for a long time,
00:16:54tactics so that in the next elections, which are,
00:16:58which will happen a few weeks after our elections in Bosnia and
00:17:01Herzegovina on October 25th, to again win
00:17:05the victory, here's a comment. How do you comment on yesterday's moves by the Minister
00:17:09of Foreign Affairs of Bosnia and Herzegovina, Elmedin Konaković, regarding the
00:17:12expulsion of two officials of the embassy
00:17:16of Serbia, they have 48 hours to leave
00:17:19Bosnia and Herzegovina, and now on the other hand, there was a reaction from the Serbian
00:17:23embassy and they actually say that
00:17:26Konaković's move does not contribute to good neighborly
00:17:30relations, they remain committed to peace, dialogue in
00:17:33the interest of the entire region, we are witnessing
00:17:36images for days... after the death of Ratko
00:17:39Mladić, what is actually happening in Serbia? Well,
00:17:43look, that phrase "commitment to peace and dialogue" is something that Aleksandar Vučić
00:17:47has been using for years, when he took power, he in
00:17:51almost every one of his appearances, and he has them
00:17:53almost daily, emphasizes that he advocates for peace,
00:17:57for regional peace, for reconciliation, that he
00:18:00is a pragmatic politician, at the same time five sentences later, 10
00:18:03sentences later, he uses the most
00:18:07derogatory words for political opponents and again, of course,
00:18:11incites them in every possible
00:18:14way, not to mention concrete political
00:18:18steps, so it is completely cynical in this case
00:18:21for the Serbian government to emphasize that they
00:18:24advocate for peace and reconciliation in the region if someone who was
00:18:28responsible for the destruction of the entire
00:18:32region and for the aggression on Bosnia and Herzegovina throughout the 1990s
00:18:36is glorified. Pure political cynicism, it
00:18:39has nothing to do with any principles of diplomatic and political
00:18:43life that apply in the normal world, uh,
00:18:46the move of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, uh, is
00:18:50of course, uh, morally and ethically and
00:18:53politically correct, of course
00:18:56that will, uh, lead to a worsening of regional
00:18:59relations between Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, which then
00:19:03somehow fits into the picture of a region that is, for example,
00:19:07some twenty years ago, during
00:19:10the 2000s, uh, during
00:19:14the presidency of Serbia, Boris Tadić,
00:19:17in the time of Josipović, in the time of some
00:19:20more flexible coalitions in BiH, there were many steps towards
00:19:24reconciliation, towards trying to find a common language, all of
00:19:28that, uh, seems from today's
00:19:31perspective to be a distant past, we have returned to
00:19:34a period of animosity, incitement,
00:19:37"mobilization of totally disrupted regional
00:19:41relations, so what is happening between Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia,
00:19:45of course politically correct, on the part of the Ministry of Foreign
00:19:48Affairs, uh, but again it will be instrumentalized by
00:19:52the Serbian authorities, similar tensions in
00:19:55continuity we have between Serbia and Croatia, there
00:19:59of course these tensions are produced in Zagreb, in Belgrade, not to
00:20:03mention the relations between Belgrade and Priština which de
00:20:06facto do not exist. There is also tension on the line between Montenegro and
00:20:10Serbia, so the entire region is in a way
00:20:13in 2026, so many years after
00:20:16the wars, uh, in a, uh, vicious
00:20:19circle from which at this moment I see no
00:20:22way out. Yes, uh, and
00:20:25now, we mentioned the election
00:20:29campaign when it comes to Bosnia and Herzegovina, but elections have
00:20:32been called in Serbia, do we have
00:20:36reason to expect that politicians in this
00:20:39campaign will talk more about the past than about the economy, youth emigration,
00:20:43salaries, healthcare, education?
00:20:47Well, we now have two different questions. The question of elections in Bosnia and
00:20:51Herzegovina, the question of elections in Serbia, this, which are in some way connected,
00:20:55right, they condition each other, but
00:20:58we still have to look at them separately, as far as the elections in Bosnia and
00:21:02Herzegovina are concerned, uh, unfortunately we have, as they say
00:21:06in English, more of the same, meaning we don't have any particularly new dynamics,
00:21:09we have old faces on the lists,
00:21:12electoral lists of political parties, we have a
00:21:15political scene that is very sluggish, that does not
00:21:18refresh itself, there are no... these new young
00:21:22ambitious progressive politicians,
00:21:25almost on any list with a few
00:21:27exceptions, meaning here we have the same political
00:21:30setup, we have uh, the same, the same
00:21:34grouping of themes, meaning that what is
00:21:38unfortunately in some way inscribed in the
00:21:42core of Dayton Bosnia and Herzegovina appears, that ethno
00:21:45national, ethno political moment of competition where
00:21:48it comes. to the phenomenon of communicating
00:21:52vessels, meaning one conservative people, political
00:21:55parties, uh, use, uh, in
00:21:58some way demonizing another political party from another
00:22:02conservative people to uh, get votes,
00:22:06that negative dynamic of ethnopolitics, ethnonationalism, ethno
00:22:09nationalist mobilization is seen in
00:22:13this election campaign, uh, of course, since Bosnia and Herzegovina
00:22:17is a fragmented society, then of course. the election
00:22:21campaign is very fragmented, we have a multitude
00:22:23of interesting
00:22:26specific dynamics, whether it is now the election for uh
00:22:29the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, whether it is the question of how
00:22:33the assembly of the Republika Srpska will look, where we have
00:22:36however one kind of political battle between SNSD
00:22:39and the opposition bloc, whether it is the question of how this
00:22:43big battle between SDA and other political
00:22:47parties in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina will be resolved. it is of course also the
00:22:50question that HDZ often
00:22:53emphasizes, of legitimate political representation and
00:22:56the battle for the Croatian member of the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, these are all now separate
00:23:00dynamics that we could really talk about for a long time, as for
00:23:04Serbia, just briefly, uh, two, two sentences,
00:23:07uh, these elections in Serbia, unlike the elections in Bosnia and Herzegovina, are
00:23:11uh, a possible turning point, they are, perhaps we can
00:23:14mark them as historical, uh,
00:23:17historical because for the first time and... We have
00:23:21a potent, potent opposition movement with student
00:23:25lists, we will see how that dynamic will unfold in the next few
00:23:28days, we will see names, we will see new faces, we will see
00:23:32a new kind of political struggle and mobilization, then
00:23:35the central question, of course, remains whether Europe and
00:23:39domestic institutions and citizens will allow
00:23:42SNS and
00:23:45massively, uh, let's say, brazenly
00:23:48mobilize and manipulate this election campaign and the election
00:23:52act itself, or will we have at least somewhat
00:23:54uh, free elections, which I doubt at this
00:23:58moment definitely, and of course the question is whether
00:24:02there can be some tectonic changes in Serbia which would
00:24:05of course, if they were to happen, if Aleksandar Vučić's regime were to fall,
00:24:08which would perhaps have positive
00:24:11repercussions for Bosnia and Herzegovina. Yes, when
00:24:15we are already talking about Serbia and you mentioned Europe, does it seem to you that
00:24:18somehow, uh... "Europe's attitude towards
00:24:21Serbia is lenient, can there be some sanctions against Serbia, and even
00:24:25Milorad Dodik, is it realistic for Vučić's
00:24:29party to be expelled from the European People's Party, the largest
00:24:33group of parties in the European
00:24:35Parliament?
00:24:37Well, you are certainly right, the European Union's attitude towards Aleksandar Vučić and
00:24:41the SNS regime in Serbia has been extremely
00:24:44lenient, there is that expert term
00:24:47'stabilocracy', where simply the European
00:24:51Union for many years, not only the European Union, but also high-ranking
00:24:54officials of certain countries, like former Chancellor Angela
00:24:57Merkel, where they saw in Vučić a possible reformer
00:25:01and pragmatic politician who can ensure peace and stability in
00:25:05the region, I think that, uh, simply that
00:25:08illusion, that image of Vučić, uh,
00:25:11has long since become very transparent
00:25:14and everyone in the European Union, in Brussels, in Germany and
00:25:18anywhere in the capitals knows that Vučić is not that
00:25:22pragmatic politician who will deliver
00:25:24changes, but to some extent, that
00:25:28lenient stance towards him continues
00:25:31to be prolonged, we still have it today, meaning we have voices in
00:25:35the European Union that are very clear, and on this
00:25:38occasion of the funeral of war criminal Ratko Mladić, we had
00:25:42we had a clear criticism of, from
00:25:45Marta Kos, we also had, here's what's very
00:25:48interesting and... noteworthy in Brussels circles, the statement
00:25:52by Manfred Weber who leads the faction
00:25:55of the European People's Party, the largest party in the European
00:25:58Parliament, uh, who clearly and unambiguously
00:26:02criticized Serbia for exceeding those
00:26:06civilizational values I was talking about, so that is an important
00:26:09sign, Manfred Weber is an important , important
00:26:13politician within the European People's Party, one of
00:26:16the most important, uh, so we definitely have a new
00:26:19dynamic, it's clear that things won't be able to return
00:26:22from Brussels' perspective to what we had a few years ago,
00:26:26now the only question that arises is whether Europe at this
00:26:30moment is sufficiently determined and ready
00:26:34to take some, to take some more radical
00:26:38steps towards Serbia in the midst of the election campaign, one
00:26:41of the proposals is, we hear this, yesterday,
00:26:44today, also this morning from Brussels, that some parties,
00:26:47some uh representatives of political parties in the European Parliament, and
00:26:51some representatives of the capitals of the European Union
00:26:54are considering uh to de facto
00:26:57put Serbia on a side track of the European integration
00:27:01process. To deny all financial support
00:27:05to Serbia, to put it de facto on the same
00:27:08level as Turkey, which is an official candidate for membership in the European
00:27:12Union, but that candidacy has been de facto frozen for a very long
00:27:16time, so we have quite a few interesting,
00:27:19interesting moments and we need to see what will happen in the next few
00:27:22weeks. And now Mr. Džihic, to conclude, let's comment,
00:27:26at the same time we are seeing the strengthening of the right
00:27:29across Europe, in Germany the AfD won 40.4%
00:27:33of the votes. Now, how can we interpret
00:27:37that result, is it a passing
00:27:40protest or vote or a serious shift
00:27:43of the political, political center of Europe to the
00:27:46right, can that somehow spill over to the
00:27:50Balkans and change relations between Bosnia
00:27:53and Herzegovina and Germany?
00:27:57Well, I think this is a tectonic tectonic change
00:28:00for Germany. Democratic Germany since '45,
00:28:04uh, this is not a passing phenomenon, this is a phenomenon
00:28:08that has put down such
00:28:11deep, deep roots and which truly represents
00:28:15a very big and dangerous
00:28:17turning point for that democratic
00:28:21liberal Germany, which of course, as one
00:28:24of the most important, strongest European countries, uh,
00:28:28has an extremely great significance for everything that happens in Europe.
00:28:32Of course, in the world, in our region, the AfD has managed
00:28:35to mobilize, first and foremost,
00:28:39emotions, negative emotions towards the current
00:28:42government in Germany, for example, Chancellor Merkel currently
00:28:46has the support of only 13% of the electorate
00:28:49in Germany, 70, 80% of Germans
00:28:53are of the opinion that this current government is not pursuing
00:28:56good policies and all those frustrations,
00:28:59all those structural changes in the German economy, the automotive
00:29:03industry, rising prices,
00:29:06the inability to reform healthcare, the pension system, everything that this
00:29:10government is trying to solve in some way with some
00:29:13tactics, mic by mic, right, step by step, uh,
00:29:16all of that, all those frustrations the AfD managed to
00:29:20mobilize, uh, so it's a party based
00:29:23on emotions, now those emotions they mobilized with
00:29:27one candidate Ulrich Sigmund who
00:29:31is very telegenic, very rhetorically
00:29:34skilled, uh, that of course here, that's what's dangerous,
00:29:38connects with an ideological matrix, that ideological matrix
00:29:42is extremely right-wing, right-wing
00:29:45extremist, uh, it sets radical
00:29:48demands, a complete, uh, complete
00:29:51transformation of Germany, uh, a completely different
00:29:55attitude towards migrants, who make up the German state and
00:29:58the German economy, uh, that's where...
00:30:02"many experts in Germany see a danger to both the German
00:30:05constitution and the German democratic order, so here we have
00:30:08the willingness of a political party that is very powerful at this moment,
00:30:12to completely change all the foundations
00:30:15of post-war Germany, which would of course be an
00:30:19incredibly big, incredibly big change for all
00:30:22of Europe, uh, that of course has implications,
00:30:26directly now, but long-term and medium-term certainly for
00:30:29the Western Balkans, until now Germany..." as much as we can
00:30:33criticize certain steps, the German government has nevertheless been consistent
00:30:37in its policy towards the Western Balkans in insisting on democratic
00:30:40liberal values, uh, specifically in its criticism
00:30:44of Milorad Dodik, uh, and so on and so forth, if
00:30:48during the next year or two until the general
00:30:52elections in Germany, uh, which are only in three years, however,
00:30:56but this time passes quickly, if the
00:30:59AfD were to strengthen and...
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