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00:00:00it happened when uh uh uh was
00:00:04the funeral of uh Mladic in
00:00:06Belgrade, where Bosnia and Herzegovina is electrified and divided
00:00:10to to to a madness and we also have legal regulations, we have
00:00:14everything up to the paradox we had
00:00:17during the summer period when the national team of Bosnia and Herzegovina went to
00:00:21the World Cup in football, that we
00:00:23had a, let's say, combination of hysteria
00:00:26and euphoria on one side and the other side, and instead of that...
00:00:30somehow, let's say in the end, it went unnoticed, Bosnia and
00:00:33Herzegovina went to the World Cup in Brazil in 2014, there
00:00:37were not even 10% of today's tensions, so somehow I have
00:00:41a feeling that technology and social networks and the internet
00:00:44and media that
00:00:47are crazy for clicks, and politicians and now we have
00:00:51many reality politicians on all sides, dominantly they are in
00:00:55Republika Srpska, let's be clear, 90% of them are there,
00:00:58who use every such opportunity for additional
00:01:01polarization, for additional showing of some, I don't know,
00:01:04Serbianness or anti-Bosnian
00:01:07sentiment, somehow we are constantly stuck, no way,
00:01:11I really think it's time that, regardless of who will form the government, I mean,
00:01:15it's not our place to judge or condemn, the people who
00:01:19went to the elections have that ambition to become the government,
00:01:21that they should set some, how should
00:01:25I say, agenda, what is important for the citizens, and
00:01:29make a list of topics. about which we will not agree, maybe never, but we
00:01:33certainly won't agree for the next five, 10 years, so they say, hey, let's skip
00:01:36these topics for two terms and
00:01:39then they take it upon themselves to comment on them,
00:01:43you know, because when they comment, many others feel the need to comment, so
00:01:46a chain reaction follows, so we are in a
00:01:50vicious circle, and in Bosnia and Herzegovina there really are
00:01:54many good, smart, successful people, hardworking people, on
00:01:57the other hand we are losing... that
00:02:00population that is leaving, no one is leaving anymore because of work, let's be
00:02:04clear, whoever wants to work in Bosnia and Herzegovina can find a job today, that was not the
00:02:07situation seven years ago, it was not the situation 10 years ago, but
00:02:11migrations have caused everyone who wants to on the labor market
00:02:14to do something and earn money, it's not
00:02:17always a dream job, but a job from which one can
00:02:20live. Now we have a situation where highly educated and successful
00:02:24people are leaving because they no longer want to live in this
00:02:28environment, they don't want their children to grow up in this environment, let's be
00:02:31clear, every week I regret not leaving
00:02:34here either in '91 or '92 or '96 or
00:02:382000, or even 2010.
00:02:40This means we no longer have time for that, because we are losing our people, our
00:02:44demography is the biggest problem and politicians instead of trying
00:02:48to, how should I say, calm it down, these everyday
00:02:51political situations that have nothing to do with us as
00:02:54ideal ground for igniting new
00:02:58divisions, that's not for us. So whoever forms the government
00:03:02should act responsibly and make a plan about
00:03:06what they can agree on, that okay, it's always easiest
00:03:09to agree on appointments of directors, ministers,
00:03:13ambassadors, but it should be some kind of package deal, that along
00:03:16with agreeing on appointments, they agree on which topics, it sounds bad,
00:03:20to sweep under the rug for four or eight years, but
00:03:24otherwise we will never get closer to the European Union and we will always
00:03:28go back. just as we had with
00:03:31the trial of Dodik when that, how should I say, from the moment
00:03:35everything was good, I mean there was some cooperation, I don't think they did everything
00:03:39ideally, and then we have two years of complete stagnation
00:03:42and then again with the departure of Murphy they agreed
00:03:46on the southern interconnection, as they say, in no time, so
00:03:50an agreement is possible, they just need
00:03:53to be responsible to the people who elected
00:03:56and voted for them. We'll see in
00:04:00October uh those test elections were held in several
00:04:04locations in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Does this inspire
00:04:07confidence in voters, what we saw,
00:04:10so in those test elections, were there any complaints? Well, I don't think it
00:04:13inspires confidence, I'm not, as I said, it's not my place to
00:04:17judge, but I have really been pointing out for years that I don't trust
00:04:20this CIK (Central Election Commission) which was questionably elected
00:04:23and elected through political influence
00:04:26of previous uh structures that were from
00:04:302018 to 2022, 2023 in power, and this CIK has never
00:04:34shown its ability or
00:04:36goodwill. We had a situation with the repeated
00:04:40counting of votes for Jelena Trivić in 2022, and nothing was
00:04:43shown, then we had again from certain polling stations when there were
00:04:47extraordinary elections in Republika Srpska between Karan, we have the case of Ivan Begić who
00:04:51was declared the winner, and
00:04:53we constantly have issues with CIK, and we have
00:04:57the case when they decide that ok, he is a delegate in
00:05:00the House of Peoples, like on a lottery, and the law clearly
00:05:03states that the National Assembly of Republika Srpska elects a delegate, so nothing is
00:05:07questionable, return all five delegates, and
00:05:09control that voting, so this
00:05:13incompetence and malice, they go out of the country for elections that
00:05:17have 50, 100 million people,
00:05:19voters, and on the same evening they have election results. Yes, speaking of that, an interesting situation,
00:05:23we have modern technologies that will be at every polling station, which should send
00:05:27data to the central database at 7:05, five minutes after the polling station closes, and
00:05:31we have a deadline of 45 days that the CIK left for itself to confirm
00:05:35the election results. How to explain that? Well, not at all, the CIK left it to itself,
00:05:39you said it yourself, it didn't leave it to them. The parliament didn't leave it to them,
00:05:43society didn't leave it to them, they left it to themselves, they are literally
00:05:47a separate entity, a state within a state for four,
00:05:50five years, that's how they behave. After all, these scanners won't bring
00:05:54us fairer elections, these scanners can complicate the
00:05:58situation a lot, let's be clear, I recently looked at a ballot,
00:06:02I have to tell you that if a former member of parliament hadn't explained it to
00:06:05me, I wouldn't know how to vote. I'm really
00:06:09skeptical, especially how less educated voters in smaller
00:06:12areas, where there are smaller polling stations, where, how should
00:06:15I say, they look at each other with suspicion, who will do what
00:06:19now, how, I'm not sure that this scanner will bring
00:06:22us fairer elections. Besides that, there are plenty of opportunities
00:06:25for political corruption and vote buying
00:06:28outside of scanners, as much as you want. After
00:06:32all, we now see on the candidate lists for parliament
00:06:36dozens of municipal and city mayors,
00:06:39we see people for whom we know that they will not... be
00:06:43members of parliament even if they get votes, because they will
00:06:47now use their levers of influence, because they have been in the previous two
00:06:51or six or 10 mayoral years, some even
00:06:54more, deciding about donations, about
00:06:57building permits, about changes to urban planning regulations,
00:07:00about social assistance centers, who will get help,
00:07:04scholarships, employment of interns,
00:07:07and they are now placed on
00:07:10lists to pull all their. influences they have in the local
00:07:14community, so what is that but political corruption? You've been involved in
00:07:17PR for a long time, how do you rate this past part of the campaign, are there innovative
00:07:20approaches, messages, new slogans, or is everything
00:07:24already seen and from us in the region,
00:07:27yes, uh, excuse me for interrupting earlier, I think that in Bosnia
00:07:31and Herzegovina we have already seen everything and this campaign has not offered us anything
00:07:34new, except that we see that some politicians and candidates have
00:07:38a lot more money than I think they should have, you know, they...
00:07:42appear on Viber, on WhatsApp, on
00:07:46portals, no voter in Bosnia and Herzegovina will change
00:07:49their vote because some candidate from, I don't know, the "Safe Srpska" movement
00:07:53from Banja Luka popped up on their Viber every time they turn on their Viber,
00:07:57I mean, people will vote based on, I don't know, some trust
00:08:00or because of someone else or because of a political party,
00:08:04program, ideology, whatever, but now these campaigns that are
00:08:08so very intense and very expensive, I have
00:08:11to tell you that I... "I'm not sure that they will yield results, for me it's just a question
00:08:15of money, the slogans are all already seen, it's interesting that on some
00:08:18billboards we have two or three slogans, so now when you
00:08:21ask me as someone who has been involved in it, a slogan cannot
00:08:25have two or three slogans on a billboard,
00:08:28and one is
00:08:31uh, to single someone out, maybe one campaign stood out
00:08:34as different so
00:08:36far, because these days, ever since I got the call for
00:08:40the show, I've been looking, now it's just..." SDA only because
00:08:44on their billboards so far I haven't seen people except
00:08:48billboards with Mr. Izetbegović on all surnames only with surnames
00:08:51it's interesting that it's how I would
00:08:54say uh the identity card of the Party of Democratic
00:08:58Action is someone will call it a brand, someone will
00:09:02call it identity, and it's very risky to play that card,
00:09:05however, they really mm made
00:09:09a commercial that I watched which was such that I watched it
00:09:13to the end, it was creative, interesting with some re-painting
00:09:16of billboards, but with the others I saw the president
00:09:19of the party driving around Sarajevo, that's like the model that
00:09:23Dodik launched ten or fifteen years ago in Republika Srpska, now everyone
00:09:26is copying him, so there are candidates, there is
00:09:29the party president and with him are candidates for deputies or for the House of Peoples or for
00:09:33assemblies, presidential candidates for individual
00:09:36functions, but for example this SDA campaign where I don't
00:09:40see a single face yet, I mean I'm talking. I was just in Sarajevo, but I came, I don't know,
00:09:43yesterday, the day before yesterday from Banja Luka, I went through Tuzla, Gradačac
00:09:46to Bijeljina, I crossed the whole of Bosnia, I see
00:09:50faces everywhere else, in the municipalities in those areas
00:09:54where someone comes from, that's the only thing
00:09:57that's different now compared to the rest, meaning that probably the SDA
00:10:00and Mr. Izetbegović are currently going, as they say,
00:10:04all or nothing, to play on that
00:10:07card that the SDA truly
00:10:11possesses, as I would say, through
00:10:14decades of presence in power, but the others have not shown any
00:10:18creativity, innovation, I also visited these stands in the center of
00:10:22Banja Luka, children are sitting there who don't know how to answer
00:10:25anything, I go from stand to stand and ask each of them, will this one
00:10:29give up his position, and they say
00:10:32no, what will happen, they say, he will be the candidate for prime minister, but these are not
00:10:35elections for prime minister, that will be later, the children are at the stands, they are not even
00:10:3918 years old, meaning they don't even have enough people within their
00:10:43political parties to place them as volunteers,
00:10:47I watched some of these Sarajevo parties, going from
00:10:50door to door, and I watch these stands in the city, they
00:10:54stop people with leaflets, they all had enough time
00:10:57to introduce themselves to the citizens, I find it interesting when I see, for example, I just
00:11:01came from Lukavica, what is now called
00:11:04East Sarajevo, now I see on billboards people who were
00:11:07members of parliament for four years, never said a word, now
00:11:11they want to be members of parliament again, some people will circle them, so we will
00:11:15have a list, how should I say, of very
00:11:18stupid, illiterate people. I joked on social media and commented,
00:11:22the slogan would be great: "I'm silent for you and still
00:11:25for you," because or
00:11:29you have, for example, candidates who uh
00:11:32appear, they are present in local communities in
00:11:35some functions in some municipalities, but they have never
00:11:39spoken out about any vital problem, let alone
00:11:42about some situation at the national level, let's be clear, you
00:11:46invite me to the show once every two or three months and I say something,
00:11:50but they have the opportunity every day, how should I say, in their work, so now they
00:11:54who were silent about everything, now they want to transfer their silence from
00:11:57the local level. And what else is interesting, since you already touched on that topic, here
00:12:00we are trying, through this whole campaign, to organize debates where
00:12:04these candidates would confront their opinions,
00:12:08very rarely do these candidates who would
00:12:11tomorrow hold some important positions agree to even sit with someone who has
00:12:15a different opinion, let alone uh clash opinions, well
00:12:18there are two reasons, the first
00:12:20is
00:12:23most parties, I would say now... all of them went to these elections without
00:12:26any program, usually elections are approached with a program,
00:12:30we will do this, we will do that, they saw that the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina are not
00:12:34very interested in that program, that they will now
00:12:37vote either within their own, let's say, national pens,
00:12:41as people like to say, or within their own
00:12:44interest zones, but there is no program, I
00:12:48convince you now, ask those candidates when they come to tell you what are the key 10
00:12:52points of the party's program, no one will know that. "And then
00:12:55it suits them much better to be, how should
00:12:58I say, uh, in one-way communication, to only
00:13:02send their messages through social media, through commercials,
00:13:06rather than going into debates. Besides that, we now have
00:13:08many politically illiterate candidates, let's be clear,
00:13:12so we have candidates who won't even know how to list the points
00:13:16of the constitution or what are the competencies of the parliament or the House of Representatives, or how
00:13:19the Council of Ministers is elected, or what are the
00:13:22prerogatives of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina." and
00:13:26they aspire to become, how should I say, representatives,
00:13:29deputies, and they don't know that, I
00:13:32know some candidates who have been, as they say, in politics
00:13:36for a long time, and very few of them have that subject at their
00:13:40fingertips, to know the constitution, laws, regulations,
00:13:43competencies, so how can they come to a show so that you, how
00:13:47should I say, bury them with some question, bury them with a counter-candidate,
00:13:50because even counter-candidates don't prepare, even those
00:13:54who are... good, they go somehow, they are, how should I say, in
00:13:58the studio, everyone tries to be polite, so we don't
00:14:00get that someone really, as they say, buries someone,
00:14:04to show elementary ignorance, ignorance now exists,
00:14:07meaning we are unfortunately as a society in Bosnia and
00:14:10Herzegovina for the last eight years, that was somewhat brought
00:14:14by the internet and technologies and social networks,
00:14:16we have become uh victims, hostages
00:14:20of ambitious people, meaning people who want to live from politics
00:14:23enter politics.
00:14:25People who have realized their careers do not enter politics,
00:14:29for example, you are a famous journalist with 20, 25 years of experience or someone who is
00:14:33a professor, and tomorrow you are not in politics, you will do
00:14:36something else. Today's 80% of politicians, if they are not
00:14:39in parliament or the assembly, they cannot
00:14:42earn a salary of 1.5 marks, it's not that they don't know
00:14:45how to do anything, but money doesn't fall from the sky, you have to
00:14:48work, so we have a problem that we are completely
00:14:51that ambitious political...
00:14:56"elite, they like to perceive themselves this
00:14:59way, has taken over, and now they have
00:15:02additionally disgusted politics to all skilled, educated
00:15:06people who shy away from it, they shy away, why would anyone enter some
00:15:09political mud if they can live in your city, so our problem is that people enter politics
00:15:13to live off politics, instead of people
00:15:17who are accomplished. Of course, young people should always
00:15:20come, but you know, now you have young people who at 24
00:15:24became a member of parliament or a councilor, now they are, I don't know,
00:15:2732 or 40 or
00:15:3050, and their whole life has been just on the budget, nothing
00:15:33in our country is improving, no
00:15:36citizen will say, listen, this one fought for 10 points,
00:15:40so we are unfortunately
00:15:42a society that has a poor
00:15:46offer in elections, I say that these are elections without
00:15:49choice, that we don't have a choice now, we will all vote
00:15:53either within our own ideological framework, or against, it happens very
00:15:56often, and this time it won't happen, for example, in
00:16:00Republika Srpska the situation is specific, mm up until now
00:16:03people voted against Dodik, and then that could
00:16:06, how would I say... raise certain turnout at
00:16:10certain points, now that Dodik is not a candidate, there is no one
00:16:14to vote against Minić, you know Minić is the prime minister, such as
00:16:17he is, uh, a man of
00:16:20the party's trust and a man of Mr. Dodik's trust, and in this
00:16:24past year he hasn't managed to do anything spectacularly bad, except that the
00:16:27debt increased by one billion convertible marks, but our citizens
00:16:31don't think about that, our citizens don't mind that Schmidt paid
00:16:35120 million for the viaduct nor that we... paid the commissioner
00:16:38250 or how many million marks, citizens don't
00:16:41think about that, since you mentioned Minić, if he wins, do you think
00:16:45he will face the same fate as the current president Siniša
00:16:49Karan, whom after a few months, actually a few
00:16:53days ago, was seen at an event, people were wondering if he was even there, if he was, if
00:16:57he was alive? Well, uh, the question is
00:17:00valid, but when it comes to Mr. Karan, for whom I can
00:17:04say that he performed his duties as
00:17:07it was probably expected of him, and on the other
00:17:11hand, I know that he had health problems and that his
00:17:14public appearances were neither possible
00:17:18nor any speeches, I mean, how should I say, I think the sources
00:17:21I have are reliable, so I hope he is well and healthy now, because he is one
00:17:25of, how should I say, the most qualified people that SNSD had, so he didn't
00:17:29accidentally become a candidate because he had previously held
00:17:32responsible positions. As for Sava Minić, everything depends on who will be
00:17:36prime minister? "You know, in Republika Srpska, we are, like people in
00:17:39Serbia, uh, destined that wherever
00:17:43Dodik or Vučić holds a position, that position is
00:17:47important, even the position of a member of the presidency, that was never
00:17:50in the news in Republika Srpska what Radmanović did until Dodik
00:17:54came to the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina, meaning
00:17:57now we have several options, whether SNSD will have the opportunity
00:18:01at all for Dodik to perform a function, whether prime ministerial
00:18:04or any other, I think, I think that no one can give a legal
00:18:08interpretation of what will happen if they try to elect
00:18:11him as prime minister, because he doesn't have an
00:18:14explicit prohibition to say he cannot be prime
00:18:17minister, and I think there is a lot
00:18:20of, how should I say, room for
00:18:24us not to know what kind of president Minić will be, but
00:18:28the role of the President of Republika Srpska has never been to be visible, it has
00:18:32never been to appear every day, he has some
00:18:35competencies that are, that are very
00:18:39statesmanlike, but not everyday, until
00:18:42Milorad Dodik came, until that, like in Serbia,
00:18:46you know, I saw Đuro Macut on
00:18:49TV the other day, the prime minister of Serbia, I realized I hadn't seen him anywhere for three months,
00:18:53you can't, now you're a journalist, tell me one of his
00:18:56statements, some of his uh
00:18:58project, because it's completely irrelevant where Vučić is, he is there, so
00:19:02now SNSD has several options, he can now
00:19:06if Milorad Dodik is prohibited from being prime
00:19:09minister, SNSD can decide to form a reformist government
00:19:13that will be led by one of their younger cadres or experts,
00:19:16they have people there, you know, people who can handle
00:19:19uh topics such as some constitutional constitutional
00:19:23issues that are important to them or they have successful
00:19:27managers such as, I don't know, Dr. Goran Talić in Zotović who
00:19:31was once a very important number one in the Banja Luka city
00:19:33committee as a member of parliament and everything. They have some municipal mayors like
00:19:37I don't know, Bojić from Laktaši or I don't know Žunić in
00:19:40Derventa who can tomorrow
00:19:44how should I say, of course, SNSD doesn't see that there is an east of Republika
00:19:48Srpska, SNSD doesn't know anything about it, so for them Republika Srpska
00:19:52ends in Zvornik, in Zvornik, in Zvornik,
00:19:55that's because of Zoran Stevanović and his political
00:19:58combinations and influence, otherwise it would
00:20:01end in Bijeljina, so they are not interested in anything in the east in
00:20:04any new staff combination that could be for the government
00:20:07of Republika Srpska, it's not an option that someone from the east who
00:20:11could be prime minister ever appears, there the key question is actually
00:20:15how much will the formation of the Council of Ministers
00:20:18leave
00:20:20room, I mean I'm saying all this as
00:20:23if SNSD is the winner, we still have a lot of time
00:20:27until the elections, we currently don't have any situation for which we would
00:20:30say that the results will be different than in 2022. That's very
00:20:34important to say. The last turbulence that happened in Republika
00:20:37Srpska
00:20:41with some change in the political electorate was in
00:20:442018. with the protests "Justice for David", when the
00:20:47opposition managed to get about 50 to... 100,000
00:20:50votes across Republika Srpska, dominantly in
00:20:54Banja Luka, currently neither the opposition nor the government have offered
00:20:58absolutely no new faces, none, and since you mentioned the opposition, I must
00:21:01ask you, as we are approaching the end of our conversation, has the
00:21:05opposition by coming out in two columns sealed its fate or
00:21:08is there still hope that one of those opposition
00:21:12candidates could gain an advantage in some
00:21:16of the... well, I don't think they are...
00:21:20I think they can't agree, meaning, you can't seal your
00:21:23fate if they don't communicate with each other, they don't want to
00:21:26communicate, and I think they are now both creating a
00:21:30better position for themselves within some
00:21:33opposition electorate spectrum. Even if they were
00:21:36together, there is so much polarization among them and such
00:21:39insincerity that they couldn't, for example, significantly threaten
00:21:43these SNSD candidates. They haven't solved the problems from
00:21:462022 with Trivić's candidacy and everything that happened
00:21:50around it. Luckily for SNSD, this
00:21:53time Serbia didn't interfere in the elections in Republika Srpska.
00:21:56Last time, they wholeheartedly and generously supported
00:22:00Jelena Trivić. In 2018, they also helped the opposition.
00:22:03This time, Vučić, due to the proximity of the elections in Serbia, didn't
00:22:07dare to create some, let's say, tension in
00:22:10relations with Dodik. So, in essence, uh,
00:22:14the opposition doesn't know how to position itself. For example, towards Bosniak and Croatian
00:22:18votes, meaning people will vote for uh
00:22:22a Bosniak for the president of Republika Srpska, now I think last
00:22:25time there were about
00:22:29I don't know, 60, 50, 60, 70,000
00:22:31votes, you have 20, 30,000 Croatian votes, now those
00:22:35100,000 people have no one to vote for as a member of the presidency,
00:22:38so hypothetically we can now after
00:22:41all these situations consider that they are not for Dodik
00:22:44nor SNSD nor for Minić, but the statements
00:22:48of the opposition regarding all the recent events in Bosnia and Herzegovina are such
00:22:52that probably those Bosniaks and Croats, those 100,000 people who will come out to
00:22:56vote, will not give their vote to any of the opposition candidates, so
00:22:59the opposition is disunited among themselves, and even within these
00:23:03who are now a coalition, be sure that they can't even look each other in the eye,
00:23:07I mean, my job is such that I know a lot of things.
00:23:10mislim, meni je posao takav da znam dosta toga u
00:23:14in the sense that before I comment on that, this
00:23:18campaign will bring the most to Draško Stanić. Vuković, he will
00:23:21of course, and how do you comment on his campaign,
00:23:25certainly the prime minister, that slogan, what kind of prime minister, there's nothing to that, I mean, the prime minister is elected
00:23:29in the assembly, and even if they win overwhelmingly,
00:23:32he still needs votes, I don't know from the Movement for Justice and Order
00:23:36of Vukanović and some others that are not easy to get, but he can be
00:23:40prime minister, you know, Serbia can force SNSD and the opposition to
00:23:43agree and then Draško Stenivuković will be prime minister, that is not excluded at all, yes, that is
00:23:47something that was mentioned as a government of national salvation. "There is no salvation for us
00:23:51no, but it's not impossible, what did Stanivuković get?
00:23:54He got his billboards and posters for the first time in the entire Republic
00:23:58of Srpska, he was, how should I say, until
00:24:01now known and recognizable only in the Banja Luka
00:24:05electoral unit, beyond that since he became the president
00:24:08of PDP, i.e., the movement, he walked a little,
00:24:11now a few days ago in Šekovići, his
00:24:14billboards are there and he got what interests him, to increase
00:24:18his recognition and "now he will always have an excuse, here I was your
00:24:22option, you didn't want it, see how it is now, but in essence, I think
00:24:26that the opposition did not do a good job
00:24:29of selecting candidates in time, that they did not sincerely agree in time, after all,
00:24:33here Blanuša, who is the president of SDS, not just the presidential
00:24:37candidate, that's been almost a year
00:24:40now, did he bring any new names to SDS, that you saw him and
00:24:44said, look, Blanuša has brought his team or introduced to SDS
00:24:48some 10, 20 new experts." well, I'll invite him to the show, no, those are
00:24:52all now those one-man band and one-man show
00:24:56parties, leadership parties, especially
00:24:59these five, six trailers, this SNSD
00:25:02and there are no new people there, there is no democracy, that's why
00:25:06now on the lists are people who are mayors, they did not manage to
00:25:09find candidates for deputies, you know, so
00:25:12generally, I think the elections
00:25:15will
00:25:18uh show that for us... that for all of us in Bosnia and
00:25:21Herzegovina, in fact, that the time of these leadership
00:25:24parties has passed, that no one will be satisfied with the results, that
00:25:28everyone will fall a little, now the only question is whether certain
00:25:32parties will form some groups, factions, here
00:25:35I mean, in Sarajevo, some parties have split in the last year, even those that
00:25:39were part of the government, in Republika Srpska that still hasn't happened, we must not
00:25:43underestimate the great influence of Serbia, I mean their
00:25:46services that work in Bosnia and Herzegovina in various ways
00:25:50and that the possibility of some agreement happening is not excluded at all,
00:25:54although, as I said, in SNSD they have
00:25:56candidates for prime minister, from from Slavko
00:25:59Mitrović, if he is in good health. Siniša Karan,
00:26:03Ana Trišić, Babić, Goran Talić, Miroslav Bojić
00:26:06to members of the Dodik family, so they will have
00:26:10the least personnel problems for that position, but they will have
00:26:14a problem, who in Sarajevo will now want to sit with them after all this that has
00:26:17been happening for the last year, after numerous harsh words of insults
00:26:21and that's it, in politics you always have to have a certain
00:26:24boundary to maintain a diplomatic, how should I
00:26:28say, note in communication, and I think that
00:26:31our police in Bosnia and Herzegovina in the last five, six
00:26:35months have somehow created a, as we would say, a ditch and
00:26:38a canal that will now be
00:26:42difficult to cross, it will not be easy for parties from Sarajevo to
00:26:46sit with someone from Banja Luka after these
00:26:48statements that have been made in the last month or two, because then other parties from
00:26:52Sarajevo will tell them, "Look, they're sitting with them now," so
00:26:56we always talk about them and we never talk
00:26:59about ourselves, Bosnia and Herzegovina. It has to
00:27:03deal with itself. These politicians, in my opinion,
00:27:07should, after October 5th, sit down
00:27:10and start dealing with these citizens, this
00:27:14country, these entities, these cities, these cantons,
00:27:17and not for us to constantly deal with them, who will
00:27:21be something, who will win, who will not, are they sincere
00:27:24with each other, who goes to whose session for advice, who appoints
00:27:28ministers, you know somehow 2026.
00:27:32That's why I said, we need people in politics, these
00:27:36politicians won't really enable that, who will live off
00:27:39their work and when their mandate of four or eight years ends, he goes, brother,
00:27:43back to his company, to his job. Well, they don't have another job
00:27:46besides politics, and when you look at all those pictures and all those
00:27:50video clips that were playing while we were here, these are all people who have been in
00:27:54politics for 10, 12, 20,
00:27:5730 years, they just changed
00:30:30Ukraine, from women's prison. To the front,
00:30:34Estonia, Euromagnetics against
00:30:36China, Adidas, football boots
00:30:40for Lionel Messi.
00:30:52Hello. The war in Ukraine has lasted longer
00:30:55than the First World War. These four and a half
00:30:58years have changed.