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00:00:00they did that, we will not go into their reasons, however
00:00:04you touched upon General Kundid, how
00:00:08do you see the situation in which two
00:00:11hills, two men are actually arguing
00:00:14- over General
00:00:16Kundid's back,
00:00:19well, I don't see it well, my opinion is that if I were in his
00:00:23place, I am not a corporal or
00:00:26a sergeant for someone to call me, come up little one, he is the commander.
00:00:30of the Croatian army, surely without these
00:00:33arguments, General Kundir would have come, of course, to account
00:00:36to the Parliament and the government for the state of
00:00:40the Croatian army, and of course to the supreme commander,
00:00:43the president of the country. I don't think it's
00:00:47good in such a, uh, how should I say, for
00:00:50the future of the Croatian army that anyone is in
00:00:54disfavor and cannot do their
00:00:57jobs. General Kundid is also from the Homeland War,
00:01:01a hero who has been in the Croatian army from the first days, he became
00:01:04the chief of the general staff, I greet him on this occasion, may he lead
00:01:08a successful Croatian army, and I wish
00:01:11the president of the country and the government understand that
00:01:15it is not good to do anything over the army or
00:01:18to gain any merits and
00:01:21promotions, General Krešić, we have come
00:01:25to the end of your guest appearance, thank you very much for
00:01:28your analysis. insights from
00:01:32the 90s, but your
00:01:35opinion on everything that happened, what happened
00:01:37today, or what are the circumstances we are witnessing,
00:01:41this was the president of the Croatian Generals' Assembly, Marinko
00:01:44Krešić.
00:01:47Greetings to all, and I congratulate you once again on Victory Day,
00:01:51Thanksgiving Day, Day of Croatian Defenders, wherever you are. Thank
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00:04:57Welcome back. We continue
00:05:00today's topics, now we move on to foreign policy with
00:05:03me on the video link is colleague Esmir
00:05:07opinions and Milavić, foreign policy editor of N1 Bosnia and
00:05:10Herzegovina, Esmir is in Sarajevo. Esmir, welcome to N1
00:05:13Croatia, good morning Hanan,
00:05:17let's start with the USA and Iran, these
00:05:21renewed new negotiations,
00:05:24uh, new blockades, questions about what will happen with the Strait
00:05:28of Hormuz, Donald Trump announced that the Iranians
00:05:32had held all-day
00:05:34negotiations with the Iranians, but again, obviously in his own style, he said
00:05:38and threatened, there will be, there will be retaliation, and there will be
00:05:42strong... strong attacks on Iran if an agreement is not
00:05:45reached, what is the current
00:05:48situation, as far as negotiations are concerned, Iran could
00:05:52gain the right to supervise ships entering
00:05:56the Persian Gulf?
00:05:59What we currently know is that the Iranians are conducting
00:06:03negotiations with Oman, not with the Americans,
00:06:06because as the American president says, if there isn't
00:06:10something, there will be something. This practically means
00:06:13that, uh, he, uh,
00:06:17imagines that these negotiations are taking place, because as we know, in the past few
00:06:21weeks, there have been no significant contacts
00:06:24between the two delegations
00:06:26directly. Qatar a few days ago, Majed Al-Ansari and
00:06:30their foreign ministry spokesman announced that they had joined
00:06:34all this, which practically means that
00:06:37someone more serious had to join the negotiations
00:06:41as a mediator in order to... try to reach a solution, because Pakistan failed,
00:06:44um, everything else failed for
00:06:48the simple reason that, well, what you just said,
00:06:52he constantly threatens, constantly makes new
00:06:56demands, new threats, constantly
00:06:59changes his mind, no one is sure anymore whether
00:07:03something agreed upon today will still be
00:07:05in force this afternoon, so what the American
00:07:09president is doing has become quite, well,
00:07:13tiresome, because I will remind our viewers that at the beginning of
00:07:17the war, that is, at the end of February, he said that it would
00:07:20last four to six weeks, here we are
00:07:23in the sixth month of this war and there is no
00:07:27end in sight. The only thing we got in the past few hours as
00:07:31some concrete information is that
00:07:34Iran and Oman discussed these routes and how
00:07:38to pass through Hormuz, but
00:07:41that... "still has many problems in itself,
00:07:45because, uh, some ask the question what if
00:07:49these, I don't know, transit tariffs or customs duties or
00:07:52something are introduced, some road tax, as I would call it, that will
00:07:56create additional costs for people who, uh,
00:07:59do business with the Gulf area and that will, of course,
00:08:03have an effect on the global community, so
00:08:07this problem with the American administration has been going on for
00:08:10too long and I think that if he really wants to reach
00:08:14some agreement, he should create a serious
00:08:17negotiating team that would then go and talk to
00:08:21partners in the Gulf region and beyond to
00:08:24finally find a solution to all this. And
00:08:28now here you mentioned Trump's
00:08:30original announcement that the war would last four to seven
00:08:34weeks, it is clear that here we are now where
00:08:37we are. What has been raised for some
00:08:40time and in recent days even more, is
00:08:44the question of how much this war
00:08:47exhausts primarily the United States, not
00:08:50so much Iran,
00:08:53how long this war could last and what
00:08:57is being asked is how much it will harm
00:09:00the US economy, that is, are there
00:09:03sufficient stocks of ammunition, they may not even
00:09:07have to exist, but how much money will then go into their
00:09:10creation and to us? to raise something like that so that
00:09:14the war could continue?
00:09:17You are absolutely right, according to the latest information published
00:09:20by colleagues from CNN and other American media,
00:09:24their reserves are currently reduced
00:09:27by approximately 80%, especially
00:09:30when it comes to missile interceptors.
00:09:33What the Iranians were practically doing here was that the Iranians were firing
00:09:37these missiles to force the Americans to defend themselves,
00:09:40that is, to defend their allies in the Gulf region. The second
00:09:44thing that is very, uh, difficult for the American president at
00:09:48this moment, is that none
00:09:51of these attacks led to what he
00:09:55was talking about, that they were wiped off the face of the earth, that they were destroyed, that they cannot
00:09:59defend themselves, that they cannot attack and so on and so forth. They still
00:10:02have, uh, considerable reserves.
00:10:05Certain things, as we learned from intelligence data, reports
00:10:09from our colleagues at the global level, have already
00:10:12uh, renewed their reserves. They have produced in their own
00:10:15production, I have already spoken, I think in our Zagreb program
00:10:19and our Sarajevo program countless times that, for example,
00:10:23the Shahed 136 new ones that Russia uses in
00:10:26Ukraine, today they are simply transported across the border
00:10:30from Russia from the factories they own there,
00:10:34mm license to produce is given
00:10:36to, uh, the Iranians, the Iranians then
00:10:39normally use them. We saw in the Gulf region that the Iranians
00:10:43mostly used drones for attacks, meaning
00:10:46they did not use conventional
00:10:49weapons, you are also absolutely right when you say that
00:10:53the American economy will be threatened. Yes, it will be threatened and it will be severely
00:10:57threatened and huge financial resources will have
00:11:00to be invested, especially from the Pentagon's budget. I will remind
00:11:04you that currently in Congress a new military
00:11:08budget is being discussed which should amount to more
00:11:11than 1.8 trillion US dollars or
00:11:15more than 1800
00:11:17billion US dollars that the Pentagon is currently
00:11:20asking Congress to allocate.
00:11:24And of course, the question will then be raised among
00:11:27Americans, especially among voters who will vote in November this
00:11:31year in the congressional elections. Well, why are we spending so much money
00:11:35when Trump promised us that we would no longer wage
00:11:38endless wars, that we would not participate in what
00:11:42is happening in the Middle East, so this whole
00:11:45situation simply causes enormous damage and one
00:11:48of the elements that are connected, uh,
00:11:52indirectly, that is, directly with... what is
00:11:55happening in the Middle East is the price of oil at American
00:11:59gas stations, not on the global market, but at American
00:12:02gas stations, where Americans now say, well, we didn't vote for this, we voted
00:12:06for the barrel to be under 2 dollars, now the barrel
00:12:09is, uh, 4.5, actually the gallon
00:12:13to be under 2 dollars,
00:12:16now it is 4 dollars and 55 cents
00:12:19on average, so Americans feel the whole...
00:12:22this, uh,
00:12:25gambling adventure into which Trump entered, for which he
00:12:28claimed it would end very quickly, just as he said the war in
00:12:32Ukraine would end in 24 hours, well, this
00:12:35war he started didn't end as quickly as he
00:12:39said other ones would. The question
00:12:42arises
00:12:45how he will be, let's say, punished
00:12:49in the US itself. We have
00:12:52now, over the past two days, this first
00:12:56round of elections for Congress. These primaries
00:13:00have been held, we have already seen some
00:13:03unexpected victories and successes
00:13:05of some Democratic candidates, and if
00:13:09we now include in the whole story we are talking
00:13:12about and the American attack
00:13:15and aggression against Iran, which went hand in hand with Israel, there is also
00:13:18an interesting question of AIPAC, that is, this American-
00:13:22Israeli association that invested
00:13:25millions, 60 million in one
00:13:28case of sponsoring going against the candidates
00:13:32who now seem to have managed to
00:13:35win the elections. What does that
00:13:38tell us about some divisions in American
00:13:42society, or perhaps this punishment of these American
00:13:46policies?
00:13:49Yes, what you are talking about when it comes to Democrats, Michigan
00:13:52is very interesting, where he
00:13:56invested huge financial resources, a total of 60 million
00:14:00was spent in the fight against Abdel El Sayed, 30
00:14:03million, 30 million was invested by APEC
00:14:07itself, which is very interesting, primary
00:14:09elections, so it's purely within the Democrats to
00:14:13choose who their candidate will be, it's not even those main elections that
00:14:16follow in November. A huge amount of money was spent
00:14:20precisely because of this fight that is being waged with, how should I
00:14:24say... with with, uh,
00:14:27Democrats about their internal, so to
00:14:31speak, organization, because these progressive candidates like
00:14:34Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are now increasingly coming
00:14:37onto the scene and if voters go
00:14:41with them, well, we see that Abdul Al Sayed won in
00:14:44Michigan against someone who was an establishment candidate,
00:14:48then that means there will be punishments for both
00:14:51sides, both because of Gaza and because of this now that...
00:15:04that questions are being raised, that two
00:15:06years of his mandate will practically pass in that
00:15:10the Democrats will 24/7
00:15:13have the opportunity to constantly investigate everything
00:15:16he did and all the moves he made, and that will create
00:15:20huge problems for him and his administration if
00:15:24by chance. Alsaid's victory in these primaries
00:15:27indicates that there is a possibility that he will also become the
00:15:30first Muslim senator in the United States in the history
00:15:33of the United States, then that could mean that he will lose this house.
00:15:37of the American Congress, then he will be in trouble, because
00:15:41then he will be what Americans call a lame
00:15:44duck president, that is, a president who can do
00:15:47absolutely nothing because the Democrats will not let him adopt
00:15:51even, uh, a letter of congratulations, to
00:15:54put it colloquially, if he wants to send a letter of congratulations
00:15:57to someone, he needs congressional approval, so the Democrats will not
00:16:01mm, uh, adopt it, they will simply
00:16:05mm block him in everything and everything that America
00:16:08promised to the voters who supported him, that will
00:16:11fall in Congress, also
00:16:15I must say that people who voted for him in the last
00:16:19elections simply say, we are deeply
00:16:22disappointed and we made a huge mistake voting
00:16:25for him at this moment, that is, in the elections when
00:16:29he won the presidential elections. So now
00:16:32he is part of that whole scene, that MAGA
00:16:35scene of those who who... who largely
00:16:39supported Trump, this rhetoric and policy, for example
00:16:42Tucker Carlson, our colleague, is now
00:16:45completely changing the story, so a lot is
00:16:49happening, do you think that this war against Iran and
00:16:53actually Israel's involvement of Washington
00:16:56in this whole story with all these repercussions
00:16:59that you pointed out, is that
00:17:03perhaps the one moment that will
00:17:08truly punish him, because because people are now, so you
00:17:12mentioned here people who voted, we also have people who financed his
00:17:16campaign, who are not all so enthusiastic about what
00:17:20Trump's administration is doing, on the other
00:17:23hand, it can be seen that the results of this
00:17:26action could actually most harm
00:17:29the US? Yes, absolutely
00:17:32right, although when it comes to Tucker Carlson and a certain
00:17:36group of people who come from that MAGA sector, I wouldn't always
00:17:40take at face value,
00:17:43uh, as Americans say, what they say at
00:17:46first glance, I wouldn't take everything they say with complete
00:17:50sincerity and I wouldn't fully trust them, but it shows
00:17:53certain trends that they have started to wash their hands of him
00:17:57and sprinkle themselves with ashes for everything they did, but something that is
00:18:01very interesting is Maggie Haberman, who recently
00:18:04wrote with Jonathan Swan a book called Regime
00:18:07Change, which describes the first year
00:18:11of Trump's mandate and what happened at the beginning of
00:18:13this war with
00:18:17Iran. She says that the moment Benjamin Netanyahu came
00:18:21to the White House in the situation
00:18:24room and when he presented
00:18:27uh, the idea of how to go into this
00:18:30war, the head of the CIA, the head of
00:18:34the State Department, uh, numerous others.
00:18:39military segments from the Pentagon simply
00:18:42said, no, what he is presenting to you, this idea that
00:18:46he is presenting to you, this will not work, this will not go well, but
00:18:50Trump for some reason decided to go with that idea of Benjamin Netanyahu
00:18:54and he went into all this, into what he went, and now we have the whole
00:18:58situation we have. Uh, what can
00:19:01happen, tell me,
00:19:04finish, finish, I had a comment, it doesn't matter, just for... What can happen, you
00:19:08said, what can happen is
00:19:12that even those who
00:19:15were sure within the Republican party,
00:19:18candidates he supported, and also candidates he
00:19:22did not support, lose the elections precisely because
00:19:25of what Carlson and others are saying, who have now
00:19:29started washing their hands of him, and then the situation will be much, much harder for
00:19:32Republicans than they expect at this moment, even in
00:19:36those federal states that were not red
00:19:40but ultrarred, to now turn purple
00:19:44or blue, that is, to pass into the hands of Democrats.
00:19:47Esmir, now as we spoke,
00:19:51footage from Gaza was playing.
00:19:54Um, for example, the ceasefire has been in effect since October
00:19:57last year, however, Israel
00:20:00has violated that ceasefire and agreements tens
00:20:04and hundreds of times. In recent days, we have also witnessed
00:20:07new attacks, new civilian casualties,
00:20:11renewed shelling of tent settlements,
00:20:15refugee camps - a war that has been going on for
00:20:19three and a half years now. What
00:20:22interests me, uh,
00:20:25pardon me, not three and a half years, I misspoke,
00:20:29two and a half years. What
00:20:33interests me, uh,
00:20:36can this agreement with Iran? And since the war with Iran is certainly
00:20:39part of this broader story into which it falls, which in a way
00:20:43also began with the war against Gaza and all those conflicts in the Middle
00:20:47East that arose from it, especially
00:20:51if we take into account that Iran, Hamas,
00:20:54Hezbollah, and then the Houthis in Yemen are part of that axis of
00:20:57resistance, do you think that whatever the outcome
00:21:01of this war against Iran is, there will be space
00:21:04to somehow regulate the situation in
00:21:08Gaza, and then in Lebanon, let's not forget that
00:21:10part either?
00:21:13Ah, Lebanon is a different uh thing, Lebanon will be
00:21:16a bit harder to resolve when it comes to Gaza. Gaza is at
00:21:20this moment a victim of
00:21:24internal politics in Israel and the struggle for
00:21:26supremacy between Netanyahu and his
00:21:30right-wing coalition and the opposition. The elections are on
00:21:33October 27th. Um, in those elections,
00:21:36Benjamin Netanyahu seeks to
00:21:39politically survive. On the other hand, uh,
00:21:42we are waiting to see what the opposition will do, because for example, Gadi
00:21:46Eizenkot, a former general, former chief of staff who
00:21:50leads the opposition, or the strongest bloc in the opposition, it seems to
00:21:54me, is sending some messages that he might be willing to discuss
00:21:57a certain solution. However, we heard
00:22:01uh, Bennett, Naftali Bennett, the former
00:22:05prime minister or co-prime minister, whatever, who, uh, said a few
00:22:08days ago, there's no chance we'll have a two-state
00:22:11solution, meaning that a Palestinian state would be established in the Middle
00:22:15East, so we now have a situation in which that Gaza will
00:22:18remain for a long time to be resolved, and what I have
00:22:22already said and will repeat once again, two people, Vitkov and
00:22:26Kushner, mm cannot resolve mm
00:22:29three, four, five mm crises that we currently have
00:22:33and they cannot negotiate all that and know what is happening and resolve
00:22:37all that, Richard Holbrooke would not have succeeded, not the two of them who do not come
00:22:40from diplomacy at all. If we could clone
00:22:44the late Holbrooke now and make five copies, that would be
00:22:48enough to resolve the amount of all these few
00:22:52crises or to bring back someone
00:22:55else from the old diplomats who could resolve it, but when it comes
00:22:59to Gaza, it seems to me that they have no idea how to do it, because now
00:23:03we see that even that stabilization force has not been
00:23:06formed, some alleged pilot project is starting
00:23:09which should be the basis for something that could be
00:23:12done. This whole story about disarming Hamas is
00:23:16completely, uh, interesting, because they, for example, say:
00:23:20"we will not disarm, but we will, um, I don't know, put
00:23:23our weapons somewhere aside, that practically means, let's put them in a
00:23:27container somewhere, and if we happen to need them, we will take them. We also
00:23:31heard that Muhammad Dahlan, who is the former head of
00:23:34security in Gaza until 2011, who
00:23:37left uh those areas and lives
00:23:40in Dubai, has close contacts with Sheikh Al-Khalifa
00:23:44with Aleksandar Vučić, who said
00:23:47that Hamas will transform into a political organization, that is
00:23:50just like Hezbollah, where you have
00:23:53a political party that has an armed wing, precisely because of that
00:23:57I say that Lebanon will be difficult to solve, but Hamas is already
00:24:00a political organization and a government, well yes, but now
00:24:03now it would become even stronger or perhaps
00:24:07more structured than it was, because until now it was more that they were
00:24:11a militant organization with a political wing,
00:24:14and now they would be a political
00:24:17organization with a
00:24:21military wing, something like the IRA in Northern Ireland
00:24:24or Hezbollah in Lebanon, precisely because of that
00:24:27I say Lebanon will be harder to solve because the Lebanese state is not
00:24:31strong enough, the army is not strong enough to deal with, um,
00:24:35Hezbollah, and because of the internal political
00:24:38structure, Hezbollah is important to them in a political sense, so
00:24:42there are many elements that intertwine
00:24:46one over the other, so there will be many things that will be difficult
00:24:50to solve, and Trump here absolutely does not use those classic
00:24:54negotiating principles and models that were once
00:24:57used, but he tries, well, with threats, posts on
00:25:01social networks and so on to solve such
00:25:04complex matters, which in the end turns out, well, how it
00:25:07turned out with Ukraine, with Gaza with everything else.
00:25:11So, to conclude, Esmir, we had
00:25:14in recent days, last week,
00:25:16Ceuta, this whole situation.
00:25:20Around Spain, so this Spanish territory on the
00:25:25which 10,000 migrants
00:25:29from Morocco disembarked, they were
00:25:32mostly returned, it seems to me that there are still
00:25:361000 minors, people,
00:25:38how many 2,500 people with some
00:25:42800 minors, so there, then I have, we have
00:25:45100, okay, those are the, those are some numbers, however, what interests
00:25:49me... I'm more interested in this geopolitical
00:25:51aspect of this whole story. In the past few days,
00:25:57comments have appeared, and even
00:26:00analyses, that this is something that
00:26:03could have been orchestrated, that this is something that
00:26:05could, could have been - part of some
00:26:09strategy, destabilization of Spain, raising
00:26:13some issues within the European
00:26:16Union itself. Some blame Israel and
00:26:20the United States for this. Let's remember that Donald
00:26:23Trump himself threatened Spain, uh,
00:26:26partly due to Spain's refusal to allow its
00:26:29territory and American bases there to be used for attacks on... Iran,
00:26:32and on the other hand, we also know that Spain is perhaps
00:26:36the loudest European and one of the main countries
00:26:39in the world that opposes Israeli policy and
00:26:43wars, primarily against
00:26:44Gaza.
00:26:47Is there a possibility that this was a hybrid action, some kind of hybrid
00:26:50activity? Yes, there is. Iranians, Israelis,
00:26:54Americans, and anyone else currently on the geopolitical scene
00:26:57could have been involved. However, what's interesting
00:27:00to me, in the... European political
00:27:03sphere, the first ones to criticize Sanchez and
00:27:07Sanchez's policy were people who are expecting
00:27:10elections next year, Giorgia Meloni in Italy,
00:27:14AfD in Germany, Le Pen
00:27:17and Bardella in France. Basically,
00:27:20they want to use this story to raise
00:27:24tensions, to scare people and say,
00:27:26"Look, we have an influx of migrants, only we
00:27:30can protect you from this migrant
00:27:34influx." For example, Giorgia Meloni said that Schengen should be suspended, that
00:27:37Spain should be banned, this or
00:27:41that. No one reminded that Giorgia
00:27:44Meloni had the idea to move migrants from
00:27:48Italy to Albania, to give them to Edi Rama,
00:27:50so Edi Rama could deal with them until they get a court
00:27:54decision on what to do with those migrants. On the other
00:27:58hand, we have... um, this
00:28:00incitement against Sanchez, because of course, they
00:28:03hope that
00:28:07either PP Feijóo will come to power
00:28:10or that some combination of Feijóo and
00:28:13Vox will come to power, so then the far
00:28:16right would be in power in Spain, which would suit them better at
00:28:20this uh moment, because the claim that came from both Giorgia
00:28:23Meloni and others that they had attacked the
00:28:27European continent was completely absurd.
00:28:30"None of these migrants crossed into Spain, they all
00:28:34remained on African territory, and as you yourself said, they were all returned
00:28:38to Morocco, so this was more of a political, so to speak,
00:28:41game instead of concern for both those people and
00:28:45for Europeans living within the European
00:28:48Union. This will probably be used in the coming period. Did
00:28:51Trump try to do something against
00:28:54Sanchez? I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did, because
00:28:57we saw in Ankara that he was... "breathing fire"
00:29:01against Sanchez even before that at the NATO summit and
00:29:05before that, so possibilities
00:29:08for everything exist, although I think this was a bit
00:29:12of a combination - of Sanchez's
00:29:16law on legalizing migrants and
00:29:19some uh campaign that was run on social
00:29:23networks for people to try to cross there,
00:29:26traffickers tried to sell
00:29:30this as a good idea,
00:29:33however, that program was finished long ago, so there's nothing left of it,
00:29:36and many realized, "Okay, we've been tricked," and
00:29:40"Let's go back, what can we
00:29:43do now?" Sanchez, of course, has his own problems
00:29:46within both the party and society and everything else, but he is
00:29:50also going to elections, so we'll see how it all plays out in the end.
00:29:54Esmir, thank you very much for this extensive conversation and
00:29:57analysis. We will certainly hear and see each other again.
00:30:01That was our Esmir Milović from Sarajevo.
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