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00:00:00absolutely given up,
00:00:02as for Ukraine, we have never been rivals on that
00:00:06issue, but truly sincere partners and
00:00:08friends, and everything that President
00:00:12Zelensky said, he said it correctly and thank
00:00:15him for that, that he used it as an opportunity
00:00:19and we will continue to cooperate, I believe
00:00:23that there are numerous areas
00:00:27in which our cooperation can be. doubled
00:00:30and tripled, besides, if you look at the trade
00:00:34exchange in '25 and '26 compared to what we
00:00:37had in '20, '21, so
00:00:40both before the war and after that, so '22,
00:00:44'23, that is a huge difference and
00:00:48I believe that in that regard our trade exchange and
00:00:51exchange in the sphere of services can still
00:00:54grow. Dear Mihal, just to add
00:00:57one more detail to you, so we will open
00:01:01a drone factory here, but with the Israelis, we are doing it with
00:01:04the Israelis, the Ukrainians are very successful and have
00:01:08many of their own drone factories in that regard, so we will
00:01:12invite you here for the opening, I think it will be around September
00:01:1515th or 20th, thank you very much, thank you Mr. President, thank you
00:01:18President Zelensky, dear colleagues, thank you, this concludes today's address,
00:01:22thank
00:01:23you.
00:01:29We saw that... so the address of the two presidents after
00:01:32the talks, we will of course continue the analysis,
00:01:36first of all what Vučić and Zelensky said, so we are returning
00:01:40to Berlin where Nikola Ksavijerev from the German
00:01:43Council on Foreign Relations awaits us, thank you very much for
00:01:47still being here, for waiting for the end of this
00:01:50press conference, uh here President Vučić
00:01:53has uh given, let's say, a classic
00:01:56presentation, he said that he supports the charter, that Serbia.
00:02:00supports the Charter of the United Nations on the territorial
00:02:03integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, support for EU
00:02:07integrations, while President Zelensky started
00:02:11his presentation from the situation that
00:02:14happened last night, which is a new Russian attack,
00:02:17he also expressed condolences to the victims,
00:02:20while President Vučić did not even mention
00:02:24it, he did mention that they did not discuss military cooperation today,
00:02:27so, we heard a lot in the past. and
00:02:3045 minutes 45 minutes,
00:02:33what is your view of everything you
00:02:36heard? Thank you for the question, the atmosphere is
00:02:40positive, but as I said at the beginning, the first
00:02:43item, if you take this transcript of this conversation and
00:02:47send it to the Kremlin, I don't think you can
00:02:50read it, that is, in the Kremlin there will be no negative
00:02:54sentiments towards this, of course
00:02:57they are not happy, but that's that policy. where,
00:03:00of course, diplomatic differences are always wrapped up,
00:03:03differences that can be lived with, I think
00:03:07that this visit also through this,
00:03:10through this press conference clearly
00:03:13shows that there was a formal part, an
00:03:17informal part and everything that everything that
00:03:20is essentially sensitive was left, that is, it
00:03:24was the subject of discussion during last night's
00:03:27extensive dinner, and everything that... "is essentially
00:03:30symbolic and around which two states that are
00:03:34in normal relations, can
00:03:38take precedence over the public. What I would
00:03:41mention here is, in essence,
00:03:44if you listen more carefully
00:03:47to the answer of President Zelensky, he essentially
00:03:52that? in some way adopted that vocabulary or the desire of the Serbian
00:03:56side to explain in the European
00:04:00Union that the process of European integration
00:04:04should not continue without one state, that is, he
00:04:07really said that Serbia should not get lost in that
00:04:11process, that is really a nice, nice
00:04:15gesture towards President Vučić, now how he
00:04:18argued it and why Zelensky
00:04:21says this voluntarily, remains to be seen, because if we do
00:04:25an analysis, it is not very clear how Serbia can
00:04:29get lost there. because in the conversation
00:04:31before this press conference we essentially concluded
00:04:35that there are not many options in this big
00:04:38multipolar world after all, where Serbia can
00:04:41and can flow. A very interesting question from a
00:04:45journalist from Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung who essentially
00:04:48insinuated and wanted to know if there was
00:04:51any progress in the idea of
00:04:55Serbia and Albania perhaps joining the single
00:04:59European market. Here, of course, that
00:05:02old cynicism of President Vučić who
00:05:06of course doesn't mention at all what needs to be
00:05:11something that is lived with, improved at home but. places all
00:05:13the problems in the field, that is in the garden of the European
00:05:16Union, and Zelensky, of course, here as
00:05:20always, has to dominate,
00:05:23state his, his problems and what he
00:05:27expects in return and you see here, as I said
00:05:30at the beginning, it is clear that Zelensky is a subject of international
00:05:33relations, a gravity around which this press
00:05:37conference simply leads world interest, and Vučić is essentially
00:05:41an observer, an object that must adapt
00:05:45and be very sensitive, not to say anything that could offend
00:05:49either Belgrade or Ukraine because he knows that European partners are looking
00:05:53for something that Belgrade cannot do there
00:05:56except for a small
00:05:59flattery. Mhm, you said that Moscow can
00:06:02be, does not have to be dissatisfied, and
00:06:05President Vučić received a question from a Ukrainian journalist in
00:06:09which she specifically mentioned Putin and how... to influence Putin
00:06:13to end this war, while in response, President
00:06:16of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić did not even mention Putin once,
00:06:20he said that he cannot give serious assessments of whether the war will
00:06:24end soon, that he would like the war to end tomorrow, but that he is not
00:06:28sure that such a thing will happen, uh, now when we go back to
00:06:31what we talked about before, those megaphones of the
00:06:35government in Moscow, Aleksandar Vulin, who told Russian media
00:06:39that the visit is not in accordance with the wishes of the citizens
00:06:42of Serbia but represents pressure from Brussels, and when we take all that
00:06:46into account, and the opposition here in Serbia, which has not
00:06:49clearly declared itself on this visit, has not even
00:06:52spoken out, uh, the majority
00:06:54of the opposition, uh, how then are we to interpret all that,
00:06:58did uh Belgrade let's say
00:07:01disturb Moscow or did it not disturb it,
00:07:05or did uh with this message Aleksandar Vučić send
00:07:08some uh kind of, let's say, conciliatory
00:07:12message to Moscow? Well,
00:07:15in essence, President Aleksandar Vučić
00:07:18repeated what he clearly emphasized abroad last week in
00:07:21Switzerland in his interview, that is, he
00:07:24did not want to
00:07:27mention that Russia is responsible for the aggression against
00:07:30Ukraine, he said that the war, in his
00:07:34opinion, will not end quickly, which is something that, of course,
00:07:37all European leaders also say because they are aware that it is a
00:07:40that it is a uh... performance of negotiations, that it is
00:07:44an illusion of peace negotiations, here I would
00:07:47say that we can expect
00:07:51that Vučić might go on a visit in the next
00:07:55six months to Moscow, but I really don't
00:07:58see why Vučić should worry too much about
00:08:02the sentiment in the Kremlin at this moment, because
00:08:05as I said at the beginning, I think that if this transcript
00:08:08is sent by diplomatic mail to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
00:08:13of Russia, that there will be no major, no
00:08:17major problems there, also what is important is, I didn't mention this in
00:08:21the previous time you asked me, that this
00:08:24question of partnership rivalry on the European
00:08:27path between Ukraine and Serbia is
00:08:31something that is, how can I say always
00:08:34a tension, that is something that stands in, how can I
00:08:37say, in the space of diplomatic talks on
00:08:41the general... on the general platform of European
00:08:44integration between the so-called Eastern
00:08:47enlargement and Western enlargement, where, of course, it is always
00:08:51watched who will be better and faster, and here
00:08:54Vučić, of course, very nicely said that they
00:08:58are not against Ukraine getting some
00:09:01special status to open clusters,
00:09:04however, equally cynically, and I think that in
00:09:07the conversation at dinner he said even more cynically that
00:09:11it is also an illusion, of course, in that regard, it is very easy
00:09:14and pleasant for Vučić
00:09:17to mention that path as something that is
00:09:21great for Serbia if Ukraine progresses, that he has
00:09:24no problem with that and something that, as you asked me,
00:09:28will surely be welcomed in the Baltic states,
00:09:31because the Baltic states, for example, always say
00:09:35that Ukraine cannot
00:09:38wait for the Western Balkans, but they actually
00:09:41have. they have an advantage that through
00:09:44their defensive merits
00:09:48they should receive, that is exactly that line, that cautious
00:09:52line that President Vučić sends
00:09:56to his partners in the European Union who are not very benevolent
00:10:00towards Belgrade and maybe one last sentence
00:10:03for Moscow, I think that this
00:10:07fact that we talked about, that there are no
00:10:11indications of... this defense
00:10:14defense sector and drone production, at least formally,
00:10:17that it is something that essentially gives Vučić
00:10:21the advantage to say that this is a formal visit
00:10:24and Moscow should not worry, because even
00:10:27that ammunition that was previously the subject of discussion is
00:10:31no longer, drones will be made with
00:10:35the help of Israel, so that here the entire
00:10:38tension is actually calming down, mhm, of course,
00:10:41and we will monitor whether the President of Serbia will, as usual,
00:10:45tomorrow or in the coming days, have a meeting with the Russian
00:10:48ambassador here in here in Serbia, Nikola, thank you
00:10:52very much for the time you dedicated to N1.
00:10:56Thank you, have a nice day, so we are following and analyzing
00:11:00the visit of Volodymyr Zelensky to Serbia and we will be back
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00:18:07Follow N1 live regarding the visit of the President of Ukraine
00:18:11to Serbia, about ten, fifteen
00:18:14minutes ago, the press conference of the two presidents
00:18:18in the Palace of Serbia ended, we are now going to where Aleksandra
00:18:22Gotfroa awaits us,
00:18:24Aleksandra, what could we hear at this
00:18:27conference, what did we not hear, and what could be
00:18:30read between
00:18:31the lines,
00:18:36well, perhaps what is more indicative is what we heard at the very
00:18:40end, so President of Serbia Aleksandar Vučić claims that
00:18:43no military cooperation was discussed,
00:18:47that Serbia is really building a drone factory, but with the Israelis and that
00:18:51it will be opened in September, what is also indicative
00:18:54is that it was the second time during
00:18:57his statements, statements by Aleksandar Vučić that he
00:19:01said after the war, so after the war, Serbia
00:19:04will discuss possible military cooperation perhaps. with
00:19:08Ukraine, he used the same phrase after the war in connection with
00:19:12closer foreign policy relations with
00:19:14Ukraine, foreign policy, joint action
00:19:18towards third countries, so those analysts
00:19:21who talked about the fact that Zelensky's arrival
00:19:25for an official visit to Serbia for the first time, actually
00:19:28we heard that he is actually the first Ukrainian president after eight years
00:19:32who comes here, does not mean... a change in Serbia's
00:19:36foreign policy,
00:19:39it does not mean turning away from
00:19:42Moscow, although we can say that the very act of Zelensky's
00:19:46arrival here is a kind of slap to Moscow,
00:19:50primarily a slap that comes from Kyiv and
00:19:53the European Union. What we specifically heard during
00:19:57these statements, during these addresses, is that Serbia
00:20:01will send additional humanitarian aid to Ukraine,
00:20:04mainly medicines, it will also send
00:20:08humanitarian aid in the form of uh
00:20:11elements for Ukraine's power
00:20:14system. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said
00:20:17that there is almost no power plant
00:20:20or power station in Ukraine that has not been damaged
00:20:23in these attacks. You rightly
00:20:27noticed Dušan that there was a drastic difference in tone and
00:20:30the content of the statements of the two presidents, so the Ukrainian
00:20:34president started his speech.
00:20:39with a report, not from the front, but a report on civilian casualties
00:20:43in the last 24 hours in Ukraine, so
00:20:48it is constant. In the very end, what
00:20:52he stated, that Ukraine actually has neither time nor can it
00:20:56afford to be skeptical about membership
00:20:59in the European Union, so obviously, both
00:21:03Zelensky and Vučić said that they had long discussed the topic
00:21:07of membership in the European Union, of course both countries will support
00:21:10each other on those paths, but unlike
00:21:13Ukraine, Aleksandar Vučić says there is
00:21:17great skepticism in Serbia, he himself
00:21:20expressed skepticism that either Serbia or Ukraine
00:21:24will ever become a member of that
00:21:27country in the near future. So, these are some forms of
00:21:31uh, that is, some things they discussed,
00:21:34which they communicated to journalists, what they actually
00:21:37discussed and did not communicate to journalists, we
00:21:40cannot even know at this moment. Again, Aleksandar Vučić claims
00:21:44there was no discussion at all about any forms of
00:21:48military cooperation on this occasion, that it
00:21:51is left for after the war, yes Aleksandra,
00:21:55as you said, Volodymyr Zelensky started about
00:21:59the situation from last night in Ukraine,
00:22:02while Aleksandar Vučić had a protocol stance, so
00:22:06he mentioned that Serbia and Ukraine are friendly countries, that Serbia
00:22:09supports the UN Charter, UN resolution, there is also
00:22:13support for EU integrations, as you said,
00:22:17however, the question of a Ukrainian journalist
00:22:20who asked him how Putin
00:22:23can be influenced to end this war was interesting,
00:22:27while Aleksandar Vučić in his response did not mention
00:22:30Vladimir Putin by name, but said that he cannot
00:22:34give serious assessments of when and how the
00:22:37war will end, that he would
00:22:40like the war to end tomorrow, but that it is not
00:22:43possible, so uh
00:22:46he avoided mentioning Russia in any way
00:22:50even in direct questions from Ukrainian journalists who
00:22:53mentioned uh Vladimir
00:22:55Putin.
00:22:59That's right, so he didn't mention Moscow, the Kremlin, or Putin in
00:23:02his statements, and you rightly noted that he actually
00:23:05avoided answering that question, he simply said that he cannot speculate
00:23:09how and when the war will end, but that he fears it will
00:23:12last a long time, a long time, it would probably
00:23:16not be questionable to mention Russia and Putin. in front of
00:23:20Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky who came here on an
00:23:23official visit, so perhaps it wouldn't be,
00:23:27I don't know if it would be according to protocol, but it certainly wouldn't be according to
00:23:30some kind of good manners,
00:23:34again, it is completely clear from the content of what was
00:23:37stated that, you know, the policy will not change, also Aleksandar
00:23:41Vučić did not say we will never impose sanctions on Russia,
00:23:45which is something he never fails to say every time
00:23:48he mentions, and in the past, that Serbia respects
00:23:52the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, this
00:23:56time the emphasis was precisely on this first part, as well as on the fact that
00:23:59Ukraine respects the territorial integrity of Serbia and
00:24:03does not recognize Kosovo. Volodymyr Zelensky said that this
00:24:06policy will not change, that Ukraine will not recognize
00:24:09Kosovo, that it will respect the territorial integrity of Serbia as it
00:24:13respects the territorial integrity of all other members of the United Nations and
00:24:17finally demands that its own also be respected.
00:24:21Aleksandra, thank you very much for this report, Aleksandra reported
00:24:24from the Palace of Serbia. And
00:24:27about how Washington sees this visit,
00:24:31especially the mention of European media,
00:24:34the role of Christopher Hill, former US ambassador in connecting
00:24:37Belgrade and Kyiv on the issue of weapons, Edward Joseph
00:24:41from John Hopkins University spoke
00:24:44about that to N1 earlier. Let's watch
00:24:47that too. Mr. Joseph, thank you very much. Mr.
00:24:51Joseph, thank you for speaking to
00:24:53N1.
00:24:56I'm glad to be with you, Dusan.
00:24:59Mr. Joseph, Zelensky is coming to Serbia, various
00:25:03topics are on the table, how do you see this
00:25:06visit, especially considering
00:25:09that it comes at a time when Ukraine says it
00:25:13lacks weapons to defend itself from
00:25:15Russia.
00:25:19First of all. "This is a very important visit and no one
00:25:23should doubt that, and when all is said and
00:25:27done, it is very positive, because first of all it sends a very
00:25:30important message across Serbia, but
00:25:34to Serbia's neighbors, that there is no
00:25:37chance that Russia will win this
00:25:40war, because why would Belgrade,
00:25:44why would President Vučić invite
00:25:47the president of a country that will lose the war,
00:25:51so, anyone in Serbia who is pro-Russian
00:25:53oriented, anyone in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro,
00:25:57anywhere in the neighborhood, even in Bulgaria, who thinks
00:26:00that Russia will somehow
00:26:04win, I think that President Zelensky's visit
00:26:08sends a strong message that this
00:26:11is simply not the case, that he is actually
00:26:14a winner, from the NATO summit
00:26:17he emerged as a winner, which President
00:26:20Trump and other allies in NATO recognized, as an increasingly
00:26:24strong leader of an exceptional and resilient country,
00:26:27but with all that, Dušan, this visit will not
00:26:31change Serbia's position. It will not change the way
00:26:35President Vučić manipulates the situation
00:26:38with his relationship with Vladimir Putin
00:26:40and Russia. Yes,
00:26:44so what does this visit bring to Aleksandar
00:26:47Vučić? Well, for him it's,
00:26:50you see, a matter of prestige. Let's not forget, President
00:26:54Zelensky is one of the
00:26:57most recognizable,
00:26:59certainly one of the most respected
00:27:02personalities in the world, he occupies a
00:27:05very prominent place on the world stage, he met
00:27:09with President Trump several times in the Oval Office, he was
00:27:13in the center of attention at
00:27:15the recent NATO summit, he was a star there
00:27:19where he gave a speech, so, for President
00:27:22Vučić, this represents recognition and
00:27:26prestige, especially at a time when he continues to face
00:27:29serious protests and
00:27:33widespread opposition from Serbian citizens
00:27:36to his rule, so, there is a
00:27:39prestige factor there, but no one should be
00:27:43under the illusion that this will somehow
00:27:47change Serbia's stance, even President Vučić stated
00:27:50that Serbia will not change its stance
00:27:54on sanctions against Russia, so, there should be no
00:27:58illusions about that, but despite that, this
00:28:01is, yes... a very significant visit, yes, but how will he
00:28:05explain that to his pro-Russian voters who make up the majority of his
00:28:08voters, how will he explain this visit,
00:28:12do you expect that, that yes
00:28:16continue, yes, sorry, he already
00:28:19started explaining that he is playing
00:28:22the Kosovo card and saying, well,
00:28:26look, Ukraine does not recognize
00:28:30Kosovo, and Kosovo was not present at the meetings in
00:28:33Kyiv, so President Vučić will present it that way,
00:28:37but that is not an argument, it is not a
00:28:40strong argument anywhere, because first of all, there is absolutely
00:28:44no comparison between NATO
00:28:48bombing in 1999 and Russian actions against
00:28:51Ukraine, starting from 2014,
00:28:54as well as this difficult,
00:28:57brutal aggression that continues
00:29:01with night bombing of Kyiv with direct targeting
00:29:04of civilian targets in Ukraine and civilian
00:29:08infrastructure. So, that
00:29:11argument cannot pass. What's more,
00:29:14when these two cases are compared, Vladimir Putin is
00:29:18the one who benefits from such a
00:29:21comparison. Vladimir Putin is the one who tries
00:29:24to make an argument. Look, NATO did it to
00:29:27Serbia, I can do it to Ukraine. And as some in
00:29:30Serbia have noticed. it represents a tacit recognition
00:29:34of Kosovo by Vladimir Putin, but
00:29:38the German Faz states that one of the topics will be the opening,
00:29:41i.e., the possibility of building a drone factory in
00:29:45Serbia, do you think that is at all possible given
00:29:48the relationship between Belgrade and Moscow, and how
00:29:52Moscow would react to
00:29:55I would not rule out
00:29:59the possibility that it is possible, I don't know if
00:30:02that will actually happen, Serbia
00:30:05had previously concluded an agreement with an
00:30:08Israeli company regarding the production of
00:30:12drones, but that is certainly
00:30:15a possibility. Ukraine has shown impressive
00:30:18resilience, which is precisely why Serbs, i.e.,
00:30:22all Serbs who harbor some support for Russia or
00:30:26Vladimir Putin should rethink that.
00:30:29Russia is a declining country, all it does
00:30:33is send thousands of people, thousands of young
00:30:36Russians to their death for a futile goal, it is a country that
00:30:40is declining. Ukraine, on the other hand,
00:30:44is a globally recognized leader in drone technology, and
00:30:47that is why it is a strong reason for those in
00:30:50Serbia who still hold some
00:30:54strange pro-Russian sympathies to
00:30:58change their minds.