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00:00:00to be outraged by what Vučić's regime
00:00:03did, what kind of production of Mladić's funeral
00:00:07it created, but what was missing
00:00:10was what one might expect from the President of the European
00:00:13Commission, what the Commission will do
00:00:17in this regard, based
00:00:21on what she said in the European Union,
00:00:24there is no place for those who glorify war
00:00:28criminals. This can
00:00:30be understood in at least two ways: that there is no
00:00:34place for Vučić and his government, which organized
00:00:37that funeral, or that
00:00:41there is no place for Serbia if its citizens
00:00:44support Vučić in the next parliamentary
00:00:48elections. In this somewhat stretched
00:00:51interpretation, we could understand her
00:00:54words as an expression of support
00:00:58for this student list, mm
00:01:01and the expectation of the European Union that this
00:01:05list will win in the next parliamentary elections in
00:01:09Serbia. A question for the end: the price of
00:01:12energy, something that is very important in this whole
00:01:15political story. It all started
00:01:18with the Russian aggression against Ukraine,
00:01:22the era of cheap energy ended, and now she's
00:01:25talking about the need to switch to electricity. These are ambitious
00:01:28numbers she presented yesterday, but
00:01:32they require a lot of time, and again there is no answer for the citizens of the European
00:01:35Union about how much and for how long, or will
00:01:38they perhaps have to pay a very
00:01:41high price for energy
00:01:44in the entire future period?
00:01:47Bab-el-Mandeb and Well, among other things, she said that Europe needs
00:01:51to be electrified, and previously she also spoke about
00:01:54the need for industrial strengthening of the European Union,
00:01:58especially in the context of competition
00:02:00with China, so we could recall
00:02:03Lenin's formulation, Soviets plus
00:02:07electrification plus industrialization, equals
00:02:11communism in his equation, in her equation, so
00:02:14electrification
00:02:18plus industrialization plus European values are what
00:02:21we want from Europe. She did not give concrete answers,
00:02:25with the fact that in the introductory part
00:02:28of her speech, she stated a notorious lie regarding
00:02:32energy from Russia, regarding toxic
00:02:35energy from Russia, because she said that Russia
00:02:39had cut off supplies to Europe, no, Europe decided not
00:02:42to buy Russian
00:02:45energy.
00:02:47Of course, when she talks about electrification, she
00:02:51actually wants to say that Europe needs to continue
00:02:54with the implementation of the green agenda,
00:02:57reducing the use of
00:03:00hydrocarbons and these
00:03:04fuels that emit
00:03:07greenhouse gases, but for this to
00:03:11succeed, she must produce
00:03:13her clean
00:03:16energy, and
00:03:19indeed, when and how Europe
00:03:22will do this, she did not say. She also did not
00:03:26the condemnation of say how Europe will reduce
00:03:30its dependence on these rare minerals
00:03:34uh which
00:03:37the European Union depends
00:03:3990% on imports of. She announced
00:03:43negotiations with China, she said this in the
00:03:45context of an order
00:03:48established on rules, but from everything
00:03:52about how she positions herself,
00:03:55it is clear that she believes that,
00:03:58for example, when it comes to China, Europe
00:04:02will not define
00:04:05those rules with China, but Europe will relate
00:04:08to China in accordance with its own rules. I think
00:04:11that is wrong, and
00:04:14autonomous actors in the system of international
00:04:17relations insist on their
00:04:19autonomy, recognize the autonomy of other actors,
00:04:23and agree to define rules with
00:04:26them. If it is not so, then some
00:04:29define rules at the expense of others, some
00:04:32define rules against others. Here we now come
00:04:36in the context of energy to
00:04:39the relationship of the European Union towards
00:04:42Russia. So,
00:04:46Ursula von der Leyen was crystal clear in
00:04:49condemning Russian aggression and she is absolutely
00:04:52right in that regard, but
00:04:56she avoided saying anything
00:04:59about "how the European Union will deal
00:05:02with Russia in the future." She did not say anything
00:05:06other than that the European Union will help
00:05:10Ukraine in developing its
00:05:12capabilities to defend itself and she spoke about
00:05:16developing the capabilities of the European Union to defend
00:05:20itself more effectively than before against
00:05:23hybrid threats and other dangers. So
00:05:26in that regard, uh,
00:05:30the only thing that is certain is that
00:05:33Europe will continue
00:05:37to be in a state of war in its relationship
00:05:39with Russia. So
00:05:42she did not announce any initiative that would,
00:05:46besides deterring Russia from a possible attack
00:05:50on the European Union, that deterrence is
00:05:53achieved by arming Europe, she did not
00:05:57mention anything else, what
00:05:59the European Union will resort to
00:06:02in relation to Russia,
00:06:06so that this degree
00:06:09of uncertainty, or increased degree
00:06:12of probability that there will be war, is one
00:06:16of the results of this speech we heard
00:06:19yesterday. Mr. Kovačević, thank you for this
00:06:22analysis for Novi dan. Thank you,
00:06:37and speaking of the global energy market and potential new problems in
00:06:40global supply, the situation in Yemen is further complicated
00:06:44as the Houthis continue their advance towards the strategic strait of
00:06:47Bab-el-Mandeb. The UN Secretary-General states that military action
00:06:51alone cannot solve the crisis and calls for
00:06:54serious negotiations. He warned of the importance of freedom of navigation through
00:06:59called on all parties to
00:07:01dialogue.
00:07:11They have unilaterally opened up another front and are advancing toward
00:07:15the Baba, Mandeb Strait, uh, which
00:07:19is falling under their control. That jeopardizes not
00:07:21only um open navigation and
00:07:25free passageway for shipment of
00:07:28oil, but also it threatens internet
00:07:32cables uh that carry nearly one fifth of the
00:07:36world's web traffic right in that
00:07:39vicinity.
00:07:41So I want want to know, do you believe that in order to
00:07:45prevent these catastrophes from
00:07:48happening, in addition to the
00:07:50humanitarian
00:07:52catastrophe, that in the absence of specific
00:07:56Security Council Chapter 7 authorization,
00:08:00military action should be off the table, it's not a legitimate
00:08:03response and you still call only for diplomacy and
00:08:07dialogue with this terrorist organization? Well, military action
00:08:11is taking place as we. The problem is
00:08:15that it's very difficult to have a
00:08:18military solution for that problem and the
00:08:21experience of fighting in Yemen has
00:08:25demonstrated how complicated it is to have
00:08:28successful interventions in Yemen, look at
00:08:32history. That is why it is so
00:08:35important beyond
00:08:39the acts that you have mentioned and beyond
00:08:42affirming the need to preserve freedom
00:08:46of navigation in the Bab-el-Mandeb at all costs. It is
00:08:50very important to open
00:08:53the doors for serious negotiation,
00:08:56because military action is taking
00:09:00place, but it will not solve the problem by
00:09:03itself.
00:09:06Given the UN's historical role in resolving conflicts involving
00:09:10non-state actors, are there any back channel negotiations
00:09:13underway with the Houthis to reach an agreement with Saudi
00:09:17Arabia? Thank you very much. There is
00:09:20huge effort by our special
00:09:24envoys in relation to that,
00:09:27and we have clearly
00:09:30condemned the attacks by the Houthis to civilian
00:09:33infrastructure in Saudi Arabia and to the obstacles to
00:09:37navigation in the Bab-el-Mandeb. At the same
00:09:40time, we asked.
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00:13:58And yet another court ruling against KBC Rijeka due to employee
00:14:02dismissals, the court provisionally determined that Predovan's
00:14:06dismissal was unlawful. There are a total of
00:14:08five such rulings now. Two are
00:14:11final, dismissals were issued while the hospital was led by the then Minister of Labor
00:14:15Alen Ružić. He states that he has no problem with reviewing his
00:14:19decisions, and the union demands financial criminal
00:14:22liability.
00:14:25The dismissal of Predovan was unlawful, the Rijeka Municipal
00:14:28Court ruled. This is the latest in a series of decisions
00:14:32in favor of the workers, but it is still not final. Predovan
00:14:35was dismissed during the term of the then director, and now
00:14:39Minister of Labor Alen Ružić. If there is any
00:14:42doubt about anyone's decisions, even my decisions when
00:14:46I was director, then let the system
00:14:50review it, there is no problem with that. I don't
00:14:54think I have any personal responsibility
00:14:57in that sense of personal responsibility, because
00:15:01I acted responsibly at all times,
00:15:04protecting, at that time, based on the facts I
00:15:07had, protecting the truth, protecting the interests
00:15:10of the institution. A total of five dismissals have been declared
00:15:13unlawful, two rulings, those in the cases of
00:15:16Slemenšek and Belac Lovasić are final. In a comprehensive
00:15:20response from KBC Rijeka, they did not answer our question
00:15:24about how much labor disputes have cost them so
00:15:27far, but they again emphasize. Due to
00:15:31unused, particularly expensive medicines worth over one million
00:15:35euros that expired and could not be used after discovery
00:15:38for the treatment of oncology patients at
00:15:42the then Clinic for Radiotherapy and Oncology, the KBC
00:15:45Rijeka administration had no choice but to ignore the existing
00:15:48situation, the damage caused to patients and the state budget,
00:15:52and was forced to make decisions on dismissing the then
00:15:55head of the clinic, the head nurse in charge of the clinic's ward pharmacy. At the same
00:15:59time, the KBC Rijeka administration made a decision to dismiss the
00:16:02then head of the clinic. The former director of
00:16:06KBC Rijeka says that he did his job conscientiously and in the
00:16:09interest of the healthcare institution, we have here
00:16:12a detail, for example, where KBC Rijeka
00:16:15paid, according to my knowledge, this was after my
00:16:19departure, but related to these cases,
00:16:22direct fines of 220,000
00:16:26euros for the actions of one of the employees reinstated
00:16:29to work, so I just want to emphasize that decisions
00:16:33are not easy, no one gives dismissals easily, and neither did I when I was
00:16:37director, but that every workplace,
00:16:40especially when you manage a large
00:16:43institution, brings challenges and
00:16:46responsibilities. A colleague from the government, Minister of Health Irena
00:16:50Hrstić, defends her colleague Ružić. From the top of my head,
00:16:53so, it was certainly there, so
00:16:56whenever you are a responsible person in the position
00:16:59of director or head of department or me as a
00:17:02minister, so there is always a situation where you sometimes have to make
00:17:06perhaps unfavorable decisions, but I will emphasize
00:17:10once again that for every dismissal or non-dismissal
00:17:13process, the courts that judge according to the letter of the law, no
00:17:17matter what someone thinks, so we are not talking about emotion
00:17:20towards the decision itself, but about a legally correct
00:17:24decision. The union says that KBC Rijeka is
00:17:28squandering public money by paying for illegal labor
00:17:31disputes, they expect every cent to be returned to the hospital's
00:17:34budget. Our imperative as a union will be
00:17:38that they are not only financially accountable, but also
00:17:41criminally accountable for the simple reason that they
00:17:45denied five of our employees
00:17:48the constitutionally guaranteed right to work, meaning they abused
00:17:52their position and authority, not only Director
00:17:56Ružić, but also the members of the Management Board who raised
00:18:00their hands and confirmed those unlawful disputes, although we
00:18:03convinced them that those disputes would
00:18:07end in favor of our employees. The Municipal
00:18:11Court in Rijeka overturned the decision on her extraordinary dismissal, and
00:18:14it is currently unknown whether the Rijeka
00:18:18hospital will appeal this ruling, as well as the Shaini ruling.
00:18:21Hanan Nanić, N1,
00:18:23Zagreb.
00:18:26And let's leaf through the daily press, and soon I'll be joined by my
00:18:30colleague from Telegram, Jasmin Klarić. Let's go in order, Novi list.
00:18:33State of the Union. The European Union gets its Security Council. With
00:18:37Canada and Ukraine,
00:18:39a new leaf begins. Saudi Arabia
00:18:43closed the oil pipeline, energy prices will
00:18:46skyrocket. New political
00:18:50conflict, Jadronković as a barrier to Porfirijevska
00:18:53left. That's what he called the left, namely.
00:18:57Večernji list, also, Ursula
00:18:59von der Leyen prepares Europe for a hostile world. Canada invited to
00:19:03associate membership of the European Union. The verdict of the Hague
00:19:06Court Hashim Thaci for war crimes shook
00:19:10Kosovo, riots broke out, because many perceive the verdict as an attack on
00:19:13the entire liberation war on
00:19:16the history of the creation of the Kosovar state. Igor
00:19:19Štimac, for Večernji list, I am the best possible candidate
00:19:22and negotiator for the unification of the right. Jutarnji
00:19:26list: Alarm in Europe due to the suspension, fear of
00:19:30oil shortages, Croatian reserves depend on Saudi
00:19:33Arabia.
00:19:36Thaci 20 years in prison, verdict for war crimes. Slobodna
00:19:40Dalmacija, Dragica Lemešić survived
00:19:44Brač's hellish night. A firefighter pulled me out of the sea and through
00:19:48the fire transferred me to Siguro. The affair from
00:19:50Split law about inappropriate behavior got an interesting
00:19:54twist. The professor claimed he didn't know the student, now he remembered, a witness
00:19:57colleague appeared. 24 sata, reconstruction
00:19:59of the horror on A3, he was speeding as if
00:20:03being chased. It was eerie, witnesses say.
00:20:07Glas Slavonije, grape harvest in Slavonia and Baranja starts earlier and earlier, the grape
00:20:10yield is smaller, but its quality is top-notch, wine
00:20:14prices, says the Baranja Winegrowers' Association, will not change,
00:20:17and finally
00:20:18Telegram,
00:20:22Croatian dream, the minister's fitness friend's new job
00:20:26shows how HDZ's personnel chaos works, a Lika
00:20:29activist brings the chronology of the cover-up, how after
00:20:32everything the prime minister put Capak
00:20:35in the council for waste, also
00:20:39Igor Štimac who claims that he is the best possible candidate and
00:20:42negotiator. Nobody feels sorry for a drunkard,
00:20:46an abuser, a murderer, a mother of six children, but his death in detention
00:20:50is a symbol of the collapse of this state, writes Sanja Modrić, and Jasmin Klarić
00:20:54has joined me. Jasmin, good morning, good
00:20:57morning. Well, all cheerful news,
00:21:01it's lively, yes, let's start from this clip we
00:21:04watched, then we'll switch to political communication, the situation in
00:21:07the ruling party, the situation in the opposition. Alen
00:21:10Ružić, Minister of Labor, a man who
00:21:14persistently, as the former head of KBC Rijeka,
00:21:17receives final rulings on
00:21:20illegal dismissals, still claims that he did everything to protect
00:21:24interests and with the best intentions. However,
00:21:27whether he acted lawfully or not, the court says he didn't, and he's the Minister of Labor, so
00:21:31the whole story reminds me a bit of Alan Ford, totally
00:21:34Alan Ford. So the Minister of Labor gave illegal dismissals, we have
00:21:38two final rulings that confirmed this, there's no "maybe
00:21:42it is, maybe it isn't" and he continues to say that he works responsibly and
00:21:45conscientiously, okay, let's say he does,
00:21:48but...
00:21:51Why then did you not act lawfully? I mean, one can act
00:21:54responsibly and conscientiously and unlawfully, obviously.
00:21:58Uh, it's a terrible problem, actually, the only luck for
00:22:01Ružić is that his party and government now have so many even
00:22:05bigger problems that this story passes lightly under
00:22:08the radar, but I really
00:22:11don't know where a Minister of Labor would survive with final rulings for
00:22:15illegal dismissals of employees in that
00:22:19public institution. What he did before, it's
00:22:22really, you said it well, Alan Ford, and his
00:22:26colleague Irena Hrstić, that statement
00:22:29was, uh, according to the letter of the law, and if not, but I understand, it's unclear,
00:22:33so they can't do anything but fumble and try
00:22:37to be unclear, because the only logical thing
00:22:40would be for someone to say, okay, thank you,
00:22:44colleague, you worked responsibly and conscientiously, but you know it's a bit awkward that
00:22:48your Minister of Labor is a man who issues illegal dismissals, meaning he violates
00:22:51labor law, so take a break, go to
00:22:55another position. Obviously, that's the only logical thing that can be
00:22:58said. Of course, no one in the government or the party dares
00:23:02to say that. Well, the opposition is sleepy, what about
00:23:05that story? Well, yes, because I'm saying, HDZ has far, far bigger
00:23:09problems and simply
00:23:13the opposition focuses on other things that are much
00:23:16more interesting and attract a lot of attention, but
00:23:19definitely. But yes, Jasmin, in an organized country,
00:23:23for example, let's take, what do I know, Denmark, if a minister
00:23:26of labor constantly receives provisional and then
00:23:29final judgments because he violated the law, which
00:23:33the opposition would push, but we have 37 tons of waste
00:23:37in Gospić, a good part of that waste is toxic,
00:23:40groundwater is polluted, the soil is polluted to
00:23:43a depth of, I don't know how many meters, 50 meters
00:23:47from the landfill, pollution has already been detected.
00:23:51It's clear to me that the story of
00:23:54Ružić's transgressions is somewhere under b, c, or d, in
00:23:58this situation, I think, and realistically
00:24:01compared to all the scandals we've seen, I mean,
00:24:05the former Minister of Health was selling
00:24:08with strange characters in a company
00:24:12overpriced devices in the system he was
00:24:16in charge of. So Ružić's sin is in comparison to
00:24:20Vili Beroš's sin, literally
00:24:24a speck under the fingernail, so I'm not surprised that this story hasn't
00:24:28received the attention it actually deserves, absolutely
00:24:31deserves it, but okay, let's move on to what we're watching,
00:24:34we're watching, besides, you and I will, of course, also
00:24:37touch upon Gospić itself, but in that Gospić we have
00:24:40communication, Porfirijevska
00:24:42left, little darlings, we'll play
00:24:46harder, uh, we have a lot...
00:24:50We also have a canopy, pumping, we have from the other
00:24:53side of the parliament,
00:24:57eco-terrorist, says Troskot to the prime minister,
00:25:00actually that whole mafia patron, mafia
00:25:04punishment, that's right, that whole set
00:25:07of what we've been talking about in the studio since this morning,
00:25:11what would have been scandalous five, let alone ten years
00:25:15ago, is now that, well, it's still
00:25:18scandalous. Of course, absolutely, but it's common, but
00:25:22common and doesn't attract as much attention anymore. I think
00:25:26you missed the most terrible statement that could be heard
00:25:29in parliament, which is far worse than all
00:25:32this
00:25:35uh, what you said, which are also very disturbing
00:25:38statements. HDZ MP Stipan
00:25:41Šašlin said in the debate to the opposition that
00:25:44the only real mistake of HDZ was that it did not
00:25:48clean up the mess more thoroughly
00:25:51in the 90s. I don't think we've heard anything like that
00:25:55yet, that's a new low that
00:25:59has been reached. Personally, I would kick that man
00:26:02out of the party right away if I were in HDZ. That's hate speech, that's an incitement to
00:26:06violence, that's
00:26:09horrible. I'm afraid we'll hear many more such
00:26:12sentences and threats in the next year and a half,
00:26:16and all the rest really
00:26:20shows the level of nervousness, how much the
00:26:24level of debate in Parliament has
00:26:27fallen,
00:26:29how much the opposition
00:26:31is, finally remove
00:26:35HDZ from power, but
00:26:39I think they were also killed by a strong word. I think this
00:26:42story, the difficult story about Gospić and everything that
00:26:46the government did and didn't do about that
00:26:49situation, there's no need to
00:26:52embellish it further with such hyperbolic epithets,
00:26:56there's simply no need. And the prime minister and his
00:26:59communication, that's him, he's...
00:27:02I now, after
00:27:06all these years, I'm starting to feel some sympathy, you know,
00:27:09like when you watch football I always root for the underdog
00:27:13team, unless my team is playing. Right?
00:27:16I can already see that in defense, the knives are already
00:27:20sharpened and drawn, being shown in public within
00:27:23the party, waiting for him. From the Square of Victims
00:27:27of Fascism, you can already faintly smell tar and feathers, with which
00:27:30HDZ traditionally covers every fallen
00:27:34president or female president.
00:27:38Hmm, but yes, I mean, his communication is
00:27:42completely unacceptable, misogynistic,
00:27:45uh, uh,
00:27:47toxic.
00:27:50The fact that someone can feel some understanding
00:27:53for a man who is clearly sinking is one
00:27:57thing, but what he's doing is completely unacceptable. I'm talking
00:28:01only about communication. "As for the rest, I won't
00:28:04even mention it. If swords have been drawn
00:28:07from their scabbards, why do you think that is? Because of Gospić, because
00:28:10of ratings, because of ratings and because of some sense that,
00:28:14but with those ratings, he is still,
00:28:16HDZ is still the relative winner, if we are to believe, it would be
00:28:20yes, it would be if all parties went independently, but SDP
00:28:23and Možemo will go together, unless
00:28:27something unforeseen happens, and then
00:28:30HDZ is already so far behind..." The question
00:28:33remains, is it possible, I mean, it is possible
00:28:36to catch up, of course, that deficit, but it will take a bigger
00:28:40miracle, and what is happening with Gospić
00:28:43and there will be other scandals for sure in the next
00:28:46year and a half, because you know yourself, wherever you
00:28:50scratch a little harder with your nail, blackness comes out,
00:28:53corruption comes out, favoritism comes out.
00:28:57I personally don't see a way
00:29:00in which... HDZ can repeat what it
00:29:04did in the last three election
00:29:07cycles at this moment,
00:29:10but as they say, a week in
00:29:13politics is a lot of time, so you can imagine how much a year and a half is,
00:29:16however, that trajectory is bad and worrying
00:29:19for HDZ, and within the party, regrouping for the
00:29:23time after Plenković is beginning.
00:29:26It used to be impossible for local officials to publicly
00:29:29refuse the idea of the prime minister that... that
00:29:33waste from Gospić and from other areas where something is wrong with the landfills
00:29:37is sent to their communities. Until now,
00:29:39Jandroković has not publicly boasted that
00:29:43he knows how to argue with Plenković. He
00:29:46did that the other day when he said he was following what
00:29:49Jandroković was saying. I mean, I don't know, okay, there's something
00:29:53to it that it's very important to follow what Jandroković says. The man was a close
00:29:57associate of all HDZ presidents in this century, literally
00:30:01all of them, so... "If he is angry about
00:30:04the fact that he is followed by being close to everyone,
00:30:08I mean, the fact is, you were
00:30:11close to everyone, I mean, you can't escape that, so
00:30:15it seems to me that
00:30:18we are watching a very interesting situation in HDZ,
00:30:20and
00:30:23it will be interesting to see how this unfolds in the next year and a half. So not just
00:30:27the general picture, the relationship between HDZ and the opposition, will
00:30:31the right succeed, well..." Captain Igor Štimac to unite
00:30:34the right, to consolidate, will he succeed
00:30:37in doing something and thus save HDZ in some way? It's interesting
00:30:41that too, HDZ used to work to break up
00:30:44the right, now they actually seem to be in
00:30:48a situation where they can only hope that
00:30:51it won't happen that the right
00:30:54goes atomized into the elections and stays somewhere below the electoral threshold,
00:30:57because those votes will mostly go to the benefit of the most...