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00:00:00Of course, with great pressure, it passed while they were in power, so
00:00:04let's say we received an email the day before yesterday from
00:00:06the electricity distribution company, that the application for power outages will no longer
00:00:10work for a few days until it is established, and because
00:00:14Alta Bank is banned from operating, uh,
00:00:17there is a danger because we don't know what happened during the past week
00:00:21that they pumped an enormous amount of money out of the country, we don't know
00:00:25how much, where, or who allowed it, approved it, because the national bank
00:00:28has to approve it. "And then overnight the National Bank decided to
00:00:32revoke their operating license, and I see that several vice-governors rebelled
00:00:36against it and the circumstances are really
00:00:39suspicious, unfortunately we currently have no leverage
00:00:43for decision-making neither as a list nor as
00:00:46experts because we are not involved in any way in the work of state
00:00:49bodies, what we are currently managing, is
00:00:53through a public appeal to uh institutions,
00:00:56prosecutor's offices, to the police, uh
00:00:59to call upon..." the unhealthy parts of the system to work and they
00:01:02really are working, what is happening on the other hand, is
00:01:06that the former regime and former government are trying to
00:01:10cause chaos in every way, Alta Bank is part
00:01:13of that to hide some of their money, on the other
00:01:16hand, to send messages through the media and to
00:01:20create chaos, for example, Mr. Vučić immediately on
00:01:23Monday at some press conference uh
00:01:26called on the state to react or they will just...
00:01:30organize themselves, look, he is calling on the government to react at
00:01:33a time when he still controls all power, he has all the ministries,
00:01:37Mr. Dačić is still the Minister of Police, so there has been no formal
00:01:41change of power, we just got elections that were already over,
00:01:44yesterday was a repeat, so
00:01:47this and I think, we jokingly say that we will call the prosecutor's office to
00:01:51react, to accuse Vučić of an attempted color revolution, because he now
00:01:55has been talking for two years on television that we are trying
00:01:58a color revolution. And now he is trying a color revolution against himself,
00:02:02no, I mean, it's completely absurd, but that's part of this
00:02:05media manipulation, an attempt to cause
00:02:08chaos, Mr. Tošković,
00:02:12the prosecution, that is, the organs of the prosecution and
00:02:16of fungi, viruses and bacteria on the police - have been under the control of
00:02:19Aleksandar Vučić and his regime for a long period, um,
00:02:22I understand that you are now uh
00:02:26working or will be working
00:02:28uh restructuring. "But that's not so easy, that's
00:02:32a big state apparatus, those are
00:02:36many bodies, uh,
00:02:38regional, local, state,
00:02:41uh, is there a strategy, is there
00:02:43a plan? Uh, there is a global
00:02:47strategy, we have about 2,000 experts from
00:02:51various fields who have been helping us since the beginning, since
00:02:55the formation of the list, in writing programs, in
00:02:58strategy, a good part. We don't have experience
00:03:02working with the state apparatus, so we are experts from various
00:03:05fields, but we haven't worked in state administration, some of us
00:03:09have, like our colleague Šoškić, for example, he was the governor of the national bank,
00:03:13so on the list itself we have some people who participated, and
00:03:16besides the list we have about 2,000 experts who help,
00:03:20what is the strategy? The strategy can be summarized in a few steps, so
00:03:24one is that we adopt regulations
00:03:27that will empower these institutions to act independently, such as the
00:03:31prosecution police uh and so on, the second is to
00:03:34be as transparent as possible, so that all
00:03:37agreements that the previous government signed and declared state
00:03:41secrets for completely unknown reasons, I have emphasized several times for
00:03:45regional media, for example, I don't know how many years ago
00:03:48a monument to Stefan Nemanja was erected in front of the former railway station,
00:03:52we still don't know how much that monument cost, meaning it was so
00:03:56secretive, which is a breeding ground for corruption, so...
00:04:00"Strengthening institutions, transparency, and
00:04:03uh, the third step is de-partification, so what was
00:04:06really absurd was that you almost couldn't
00:04:09imagine someone becoming a director without being
00:04:13implicitly, and in the end it became even more explicitly, a supporter
00:04:16or member of the progressive party, so in the end we are not a party, we
00:04:20don't have our own staff, so that will be, I would say,
00:04:24a partially easier part of the job, what is the problem is that
00:04:27the system has gotten used to and we are already now..." that we really have
00:04:30in Nušić's comedies, so you have people
00:04:34already thinking about how to join
00:04:38the student list to become some officials, I mean there is no
00:04:41way because we are not a party, but somehow
00:04:45some processes are happening that you get the impression that they are
00:04:49part of literature and even some ironic
00:04:52film, and the reality is really
00:04:55like that, here I have actually extracted about
00:04:59the first moves... of the Government of Serbia, I think your
00:05:02colleague Sajčić from the list spoke
00:05:06about that, actually in the first month, the goal is those three
00:05:10measures: stable dinar exchange rate, regular salaries, pensions,
00:05:13here the question certainly arises how Alta bank and this situation with
00:05:17Alta will affect all this, then the second is
00:05:20secured energy supply and the third is talks with
00:05:24the USA about sanctions against Serbia
00:05:26and talks with Russia about
00:05:29gas, can we briefly, since it's these first
00:05:33months, comment on uh these measures, especially this
00:05:37foreign, foreign policy, energy one is also
00:05:39interesting,
00:05:42yes. Well, I think the previous regime put us in an awkward situation
00:05:45in almost all fields, both internally by dismantling the system, and externally,
00:05:49so what, let's say, was good, was
00:05:52that it tried to balance with some
00:05:55diplomacy, to maintain good relations between Serbia and various actors
00:05:59on whom Serbia depends, but on the other
00:06:01hand, the way it did it was that it literally lied to everyone around
00:06:05itself, so with Western leaders it tells one
00:06:09story, with the Russians another and the West.
00:06:12"None of this was done to bring Serbia closer to the European Union,
00:06:16and we are a candidate country, nor to maintain some
00:06:19long-term stable relations with energy suppliers, for example, to create
00:06:23diversification of the energy system so that we don't depend only on one side and
00:06:26so on, uh, so that's it, these are really steps to
00:06:30somehow not make sudden moves that would destabilize
00:06:34the country, that would not be good either for Serbia, nor for
00:06:38Europe, because we are a candidate country, it's not good for a candidate country to be, is it
00:06:41right? unstable, uh, that
00:06:44in some way we try to build relations
00:06:48uh we constantly emphasize
00:06:51to foreign leaders and contacts
00:06:54diplomatic, so uh what they can count on is that we will
00:06:58be a credible partner that we will not lie
00:07:01to anyone, so some things are currently feasible, some
00:07:05are not, we don't know what state our financial system is in, here this with Alta
00:07:08bank, we don't know what they will leave us, they will try in every way
00:07:12to... uh still further dismantle the system, but
00:07:16we will do our best, so in agreements to keep it as
00:07:19stable as possible in a not too long term
00:07:22sustainable way. Mr. Tošković, you have
00:07:26already given some statements for regional media,
00:07:30I am interested in the stance of future relations, let's say
00:07:33your Serbia uh with countries in the region, that is something that
00:07:37is certainly primary given our
00:07:41shared history. "and the wars of the 90s,
00:07:44something that for citizens in
00:07:47many of these countries is, let's say, they have a question mark over
00:07:51their heads, how will this new Serbia behave
00:07:54towards us and will there be changes, you, to
00:07:58quote you, expressed hope for the calming of relations between Croatia and
00:08:02Serbia, you said, you compared it
00:08:06to ex-spouses after a difficult divorce,
00:08:11now they have, there those relations
00:08:15should be smoothed out and in what
00:08:19way do you imagine now, jokes aside? A very important question
00:08:22mm relations Zagreb, Belgrade, but also
00:08:26Belgrade, Sarajevo, especially in
00:08:28the context of uh Banja
00:08:30Luka?
00:08:33Well, I think that this morning or yesterday our writer Goran Stojičić wrote a
00:08:36wonderful comment on social media saying, dear neighbors,
00:08:40uh I hope that you will that we will manage to
00:08:43convince you that we are a people who
00:08:47loves its country, but also loves all of you, so,
00:08:51uh, I don't see any reason to
00:08:53deepen uh conflicts, let me remind you that the conflict
00:08:57has long not existed, so the conflict existed only
00:09:01in the minds of politicians, uh,
00:09:03it became a real conflict three decades
00:09:06ago, right, which then deepened and instead of
00:09:09calming down, it was somehow always before elections
00:09:12misused for daily political purposes, that's the first thing
00:09:16we simply won't do, secondly,
00:09:19so, no, there is no stable Serbia without stable
00:09:23relations with all neighbors, do we have
00:09:26common children? So we are the common children of Yugoslavia, we have
00:09:29a beautiful common past, no one will
00:09:32ever convince me that Kud idioti and Krleža are not part of my
00:09:36past, so this in the same way
00:09:39I think for all of us and this uh...
00:09:42"It's simply that, that's these are some foundations on which I see further
00:09:46cooperation, so we have a strong common past and
00:09:50besides, that conflict existed, but we had many beautiful
00:09:54common things and I think we can in some way
00:09:57learn from our mistakes, but also learn from
00:10:00the beautiful things we had together and
00:10:02fostered, um do you think that
00:10:06it is necessary in
00:10:08Serbia to have some kind of reflection on
00:10:12the events of the 90s, truly
00:10:15clarifying - what really
00:10:18happened, whose responsibility
00:10:22it is and what are the lessons that should be learned
00:10:25from it, do you think that this
00:10:28is a discussion that should come on the agenda in Serbia
00:10:32as a society?
00:10:35Absolutely, so I think that there are always two steps to this,
00:10:39so in reconciliation, in everything, so one step is to understand your own
00:10:43responsibility, to somehow uh
00:10:46understand the whole process which is part of where Serbia
00:10:50made mistakes, then communicate
00:10:52more clearly, with with... neighbors,
00:10:56so, where we together made mistakes, so,
00:11:00certainly the first step, or let's say
00:11:03in parallel, it's very important to open those discussions in the most
00:11:07honest way possible, so uh, the stability of all of us
00:11:11and common coexistence,
00:11:14depends on how ready we are to accept our own
00:11:17responsibility to be as clear as possible, I mean until you accept
00:11:21your own responsibility you cannot clearly offer your hand to another and say:...
00:11:25"Uh, let's go on, so, that certainly
00:11:28stands,
00:11:30partially it has already been worked on, so, it's not that nothing has been done
00:11:34in the past 30 years, but it was constantly wrapped
00:11:38in some, I don't know, let's say daily
00:11:40political schemes that blurred it, so on the one
00:11:44hand, there were many arrests in Serbia, many
00:11:48people who were leaders and went to The Hague, they were tried there,
00:11:51convicted of war crimes, on the other
00:11:54hand. Then as a state it arrests, works, cooperates,
00:11:58then in the media it sends a completely different picture to the public, which actually
00:12:01created a very strange atmosphere, so I even
00:12:05compared it in an interview for domestic media to double bind
00:12:09communication that exists in some families, completely schizophrenic
00:12:12communication where you do one thing and say another and then
00:12:16that naturally creates a
00:12:19strange picture for people, so a very unclear one, and it is suitable for
00:12:23manipulation of all kinds.
00:12:26"Yes, especially when there is no
00:12:29truly in the background some truth,
00:12:32but some fragments from which then very
00:12:35easily, some other
00:12:38stories are created, when we talk about
00:12:41about your plan for the future, your critics will
00:12:45say, well, for the students it was only about overthrowing Vučić, now they have
00:12:49overthrown Vučić and what now, is
00:12:52that really so?".
00:12:55Of course it wasn't, for us actually overthrowing Vučić was not at all
00:12:58a priority, so that was just the first step to
00:13:02free the institutions and the student movement
00:13:05was uh from the beginning, so when it
00:13:08started as a rebellion and as a protest,
00:13:12the change of Vučić was not at all among the first demands, so all
00:13:15four first demands related to the prosecutor's office
00:13:19reacting in the case of the canopy,
00:13:22so uh the demands were very clear towards
00:13:25the institutions of the system to start doing their job, and the student
00:13:29movement continued that, so elections were
00:13:32sought only about six or seven months after the
00:13:36protest began, purely
00:13:39as a stepping stone towards achieving the original
00:13:43demands, so we have a plan that is quite
00:13:46detailed, written in cooperation with us, I mentioned about
00:13:502.0 experts from various fields, a summary of that plan is
00:13:53already online, it can be downloaded, viewed, and these are things
00:13:57that we plan to do, so, removing Vučić
00:14:01was literally just the first step to open the door
00:14:03to opportunities to fulfill that
00:14:07program, so we have a detailed mhm, we can't wait to
00:14:10start working on it, actually, here, just a quick question for the end regarding
00:14:13the region's foreign policy issues for
00:14:16Serbia, there is certainly the relationship with Montenegro, the relationship with Montenegro
00:14:20in recent years has been marked in various ways,
00:14:24including serious interference
00:14:27by Serbia in the internal political issues of Montenegro,
00:14:31my question to you is, will your government,
00:14:34that is, what will be formed as the government that will emerge from
00:14:38this majority, will you change that kind of policy towards Montenegro
00:14:42and on the other hand, will support for
00:14:46uh Milorad Dodik in
00:14:49the Bosnian-Herzegovinian entity Republika Srpska continue, which
00:14:51actually. more and more calls into question
00:14:55the territorial integrity of Bosnia and Herzegovina as
00:14:59a state? Well, as I said earlier,
00:15:01so, we see
00:15:04relations with all neighbors as good neighborly
00:15:08relations, so that implies of course that we don't send a plane
00:15:11full of former criminals to a neighboring country to
00:15:15cause chaos there, right, as was attempted,
00:15:18uh, so it's the same as someone said, so when the
00:15:22list was published, the first objection they found with the first on
00:15:26our list, Dr. Ilija Sedanović, professor
00:15:28of Montenegrin origin, someone among us says,
00:15:32until yesterday we had no problem with Montenegro, now we do, so literally they were
00:15:36misused and so. I mean, pumped differences and
00:15:39conflicts where there were none, in order to gain some daily
00:15:42political points or develop a strategy
00:15:45based on that, which is completely absurd, so with Montenegro
00:15:49as with Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, the best possible
00:15:52relations, uh, I don't see any reason for it to be
00:15:55otherwise. Uh, the damage to all of us
00:15:59all these years is that criminal clans cooperated
00:16:02much better than the governments of some
00:16:05states did, and I think that it should be the opposite, uh, now regarding
00:16:09Republika Srpska, of course Serbia, with
00:16:12signed agreements and according to the plan, has relations
00:16:16with Republika Srpska in various bilateral
00:16:19agreements, because it gathers the Serbian people
00:16:23who live there, it is some kind of umbrella
00:16:26unit, resulting from the Dayton Agreement,
00:16:30we constantly emphasize that we will respect, of course, I mean,
00:16:34it's strange to emphasize it, but we have to because......
00:16:37"Not only did the opposing side, the previous regime, bring it up
00:16:41as a topic, but somehow people were not sure if it would happen,
00:16:45we will truly respect all international agreements, which is, I would say,
00:16:49a normal expectation, uh, what is a shame is
00:16:53that the entity of Republika Srpska is tied to the name of Milorad Dodik
00:16:56just like someone tied Serbia to Vučić until yesterday
00:17:00and so on, so, we do not
00:17:03intend to interfere in the internal affairs of Bosnia and Herzegovina as
00:17:06it." interfered in the internal affairs of Montenegro,
00:17:09so, but we certainly intend to maintain
00:17:13relations with Republika Srpska, I think that Republika Srpska at this
00:17:16moment is an important part of the Dayton Agreement and
00:17:20that what, unfortunately, is happening in Bosnia
00:17:23and Herzegovina, what I can say from the outside
00:17:26more through friendly relations and collegial ones that
00:17:30I have with colleagues from Banja Luka and Sarajevo, is that
00:17:33unfortunately Republika Srpska is being misused for daily political
00:17:37purposes so that someone there can stay in
00:17:40power or from here it was misused to
00:17:44deepen that non-existent conflict, so I
00:17:48think it's important to respect the Dayton Agreement and to build
00:17:51relations, I said that, so
00:17:55Belgrade has and should have good relations with Banja Luka, we have an agreement,
00:17:59but also with Sarajevo, I see Banja Luka and Sarajevo
00:18:02as equally
00:18:06I would say dear people. and equally dear cities, uh, and
00:18:10I think it is important that there are, that no
00:18:12sudden moves are made that will actually
00:18:15preserve peace and stability rather than some
00:18:19sudden change that is not according to the will of the people who live
00:18:22there, and so once again, so support for
00:18:26some structure like Republika Srpska or
00:18:29like the existing peace like the Dayton
00:18:32Agreement definitely does not mean the same as supporting Dodik because.
00:18:35Republika Srpska is not and
00:18:38it seems to me that it is even in the BiH entity Republika
00:18:42Srpska is one of the few places
00:18:45where citizens of Serbia with voting rights could
00:18:48vote uh in elections where Aleksandar
00:18:51Vučić actually won more votes than the student list,
00:18:55correct me if I'm wrong,
00:18:58uh yes, that's it, that's another good example of what they were doing,
00:19:02so, not only were they quarreling with, I would say, all neighbors, no,
00:19:05but they literally almost brought it as perhaps a collateral
00:19:09effect, but probably intentionally, to quarrel, I would say,
00:19:13the citizens of Serbia who live in
00:19:15Serbia with Serbs who live in Republika Srpska
00:19:19almost at one point it was dangerous for some animosity to appear because
00:19:22they were buying votes through their political connections
00:19:26and even importing people for the previous elections in 2023,
00:19:30they literally brought people by bus to vote in
00:19:33local elections in Serbia, which
00:19:36is terrible, but these are those daily political
00:19:39entanglements and manipulations that then practically
00:19:42deepen the crisis on all sides, so it almost led
00:19:45to Serbs from Republika Srpska and Serbs from
00:19:49Serbia having some conflict on that relation
00:19:52because someone decided that it suited them to get more votes,
00:19:56uh Mr. Tošković,
00:19:59I just have a quick question for the end, will you be in the government
00:20:02or will you be in the national assembly?
00:20:06"I don't know and actually
00:20:08I honestly don't care, this is something we are just entering
00:20:12into that process, we will vote,
00:20:15I think I can contribute to
00:20:17both sides, so depending on how we
00:20:21agree, I really have no preferences regarding
00:20:25that, so it's important to start this process,
00:20:28I always say from the first to the 250th on
00:20:32that list, from Ilija to Nenad, everyone would be great
00:20:35both ministers and prime ministers and and members of parliament,
00:20:38so it's important that things work, names are the
00:20:42least important thing here, of course they are important as
00:20:45to maintain some kind of stability.
00:20:48to continue with the implementation of the program, but they are really
00:20:51secondary, the essence is for the program of
00:20:54institutions to start working, Mr. Tošković, thank you very much for
00:20:57your time for this interview for
00:21:01N1 Croatia, we will certainly be in contact, once again this
00:21:04was Oliver Tošković, one of the winning candidates from
00:21:08the student list in Serbia. Thank you
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00:25:07Dear viewers, welcome back, you are watching a new day,
00:25:11we are now going to Gospić, where my next guest is Mr. Vijeko
00:25:14Bušić from the initiative Gospić naš dom, Mr.
00:25:18Bušić, good morning. Welcome to
00:25:20N1,
00:25:23good morning, or rather good day, greetings to you and your
00:25:26viewers, Mr.
00:25:28Bušić, we now have a new story when Gospić is in
00:25:32question, on the one hand, the remediation has
00:25:36started, I would certainly like to hear your
00:25:38opinion and statement on that, but on the other hand,
00:25:42a story is emerging about a factory that is not new, let's be clear,
00:25:46but we have new uh some new moments.
00:25:50In this story, it's about a lithium factory, or a factory for
00:25:53lithium processing in Gospić, will
00:25:56it remain without a building
00:25:58permit,
00:26:01well, here... uh, our position on this is actually very
00:26:04clear, on February 27th
00:26:08of this year when
00:26:10the ministry's opinion was annulled that
00:26:14require an environmental impact assessment
00:26:18and when the investor was sent
00:26:21back to the environmental impact assessment procedure,
00:26:24then finally on August 3rd when it was announced that
00:26:28an environmental impact study must be prepared,
00:26:31it is clear that according to... the Law on General Administrative Procedure,
00:26:35the building permit must be revoked, given
00:26:38that a building permit cannot exist
00:26:41without a prior environmental impact study,
00:26:45I think the law is very clear here,
00:26:48Mr. Milinović actually came into conflict with you here, as far as
00:26:52I understand, uh, he even accused certain
00:26:56members of the initiative of some
00:26:58possible connections with other investors or other waste
00:27:02dumps.
00:27:05Well, I don't know how uh how would citizens who are actually
00:27:08the whole problem of waste itself
00:27:12and the lithium factory itself raise
00:27:16with their activity with their reasoned objections
00:27:20actually
00:27:22uh, so to speak, to be publicly available to the entire public with
00:27:26their argumentation, we are asking for the annulment of the building
00:27:30permit for the lithium factory, even on the
00:27:3236th boundary, we presented our
00:27:36remarks in the environmental impact assessment procedure, we wrote down all the
00:27:39illogicalities and wrong data that the investor used precisely
00:27:43to avoid that study, and as for the
00:27:46waste itself, meaning where we still forced
00:27:50institutions in a way to work faster,
00:27:52although we are still not satisfied, well, I don't know how
00:27:56we could be as citizens or as members of this
00:27:59initiative the only main problem. of that, well,
00:28:03that's actually a bit incredible to me, but well
00:28:06we'll let people judge, and there's another
00:28:09moment, these 10 million euros
00:28:12of investor Aleksandra Devčić, he says he
00:28:15invested that much and that if the permit is revoked
00:28:19he will sue the city of Gospić, now that's another
00:28:23another dimension, so well
00:28:25actually yes, well unfortunately
00:28:28we are hearing some threats from the investor, actually
00:28:31the investor uh... all the time this again
00:28:34actually the investor addresses the city, meaning
00:28:37a small local community, although actually it is very
00:28:41clear from the entire chronology of the case how much
00:28:44responsibility and fault actually lies precisely with
00:28:47the investor, the investor sent the first request
00:28:51to the ministry in 2023
00:28:54and correctly named his plant then, meaning that
00:28:57it is a lithium processing factory, when he then received
00:29:01the ministry's opinion that his project should go to
00:29:05an environmental impact study, he abandoned it, he again
00:29:08submits a request in March
00:29:122024, incorrectly
00:29:15classifying it as a plant for melting mineral substances,
00:29:19at the ministry's request to correctly
00:29:23classify his project, because it is about a suitable
00:29:27plant for melting mineral substances, he withdraws his
00:29:30request and submits a new request. mhm, his entire elaborate
00:29:34is full of errors, he actually
00:29:38completely wrongly states the chemical formula by which
00:29:41he represents his project, or rather he stated only one formula, not
00:29:44two or three that will actually be used in that uh production process
00:29:48precisely to most likely hide the nature
00:29:51of his process, then what is most important
00:29:55in Croatia, the impact on water, on karst soil, on
00:29:58groundwater, he actually copies
00:30:01from the elaborate... from the Zagreb-Sisak
00:30:05highway junction, Žažina junction, so the investor
00:30:08is the one, let's say that according to
00:30:11the ministry he uses one name and then says
00:30:14it is about processing uh
00:30:18lithium soda, first lithium salts, so all these
00:30:21names are not technical names in the chemical
00:30:24industry, precisely so that he would actually in some way hide
00:30:28the true nature of his process, so that he would not reveal
00:30:31that it is actually... about classical chemical industry,
00:30:35precisely according to our positive regulations which are actually
00:30:38copied regulations from the European Union, for the chemical
00:30:41industry, an environmental impact study is always mandatory,
00:30:44that the investor was aware of this,
00:30:48one needs to go back to February 29, 2024
00:30:52when the investor's representatives presented this project
00:30:55at the city council, the investor explicitly and clearly said: