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00:00:00The President and I discussed you. bilateral
00:00:03cooperation,
00:00:06about things that can strengthen our infrastructure,
00:00:09our ports and railway
00:00:13stations and railways in countries, and the economy and security,
00:00:16in general there are
00:00:19concrete development infrastructure projects such as
00:00:23reconstruction projects
00:00:25Ukraine that we can implement together. This
00:00:29would be a significant contribution to preserving
00:00:32existing jobs and creating new, truly decent jobs
00:00:36in Ukraine and Serbia. We have the area of food security, no matter what
00:00:40happens, people must have every
00:00:43opportunity to live.
00:00:46We also discussed the challenges facing
00:00:49Ukraine. Not a single
00:00:52thermal power plant was left unharmed, not attacked
00:00:56in those Russian attacks, because the missiles were
00:01:00aimed at making the lives of Ukrainians
00:01:02unbearable.
00:01:05Any engagement with partners in the field of energy is of enormous
00:01:09importance. There are ways to strengthen cooperation in the field
00:01:13of energy. We should work very
00:01:16hard to
00:01:19reach a free trade agreement.
00:01:22These negotiations are progressing, which is positive, and it would be
00:01:26really good if we could prepare everything by the end of this
00:01:30year, so that we can conclude a free trade agreement
00:01:33between Ukraine and Serbia.
00:01:37We have good relations with the European Union, and we would
00:01:39really
00:01:42welcome the acceleration of Serbia's path to
00:01:46the European Union.
00:01:50Our relations are based on mutual
00:01:52respect.
00:01:54And we want every nation in Europe to receive a strong signal from the European
00:01:58Union that it is needed by the European Union,
00:02:02that it cannot afford, cannot afford to lose anyone.
00:02:06Mr. President, we also discussed diplomacy
00:02:08and all diplomatic opportunities that would help
00:02:12bring this war to
00:02:13an end.
00:02:17It is important for people all over the world to know
00:02:21that it is true, it is a fact that we want
00:02:24a dignified peace, that every opportunity should
00:02:27be used for the sake of peace and guaranteeing security, every
00:02:31available opportunity in Washington,
00:02:35services, and without a doubt we are working on in Beijing, in capitals in
00:02:38Europe, among our partners in the Middle East, Gulf
00:02:42countries, and all other capitals and
00:02:45major cities around the world
00:02:48that could influence these processes. I want to
00:02:51thank everyone in Serbia, but truly everyone who
00:02:55has
00:02:58welcomed our people
00:03:01with attention and care. We will
00:03:05never forget your kindness towards our
00:03:09Ukrainians, and I thank you all. Thank you,
00:03:12Aleksandar, for this invitation, for
00:03:16your support, and I wish your country peace
00:03:19and only peace, because we understand that it is the most precious
00:03:23thing that people
00:03:36Thank you for this opportunity. My first question for you, Mr. President, is your
00:03:40assessment of why Putin simply wants to continue his
00:03:43aggression and this war, or perhaps you
00:03:47see some signals that he
00:03:50is ready for a real negotiation process? And for
00:03:53you, Mr. President, from your perspective, what or who could
00:03:56force him to engage in
00:04:00concrete and real
00:04:01talks?
00:04:04Mr. President, you mentioned the challenges due to what happened
00:04:07last night, another ballistic missile attack on the Kyiv
00:04:10region.
00:04:12Three people were killed, including a child who was only
00:04:16three years old. That
00:04:18child, unfortunately, never lived in
00:04:21peace.
00:04:25What do your partners and other
00:04:28countries in the world say? How do they respond to your
00:04:32request regarding these missiles? Can
00:04:35anyone send you those
00:04:38missiles in some time? Is there
00:04:41any alternative for intercepting these? But
00:04:44one option was to destroy these launchers.
00:04:48What does Ukraine need to be able to destroy
00:04:51these? Ukraine, so that
00:04:54this defense
00:05:09I cannot give serious estimates and assumptions
00:05:13about the fact of whether
00:05:16the war will end soon or not so soon. Without
00:05:20a doubt, I
00:05:22believe,
00:05:25and the entire international community, including Serbia, our entire nation, we
00:05:29would all like to see this war end as soon as
00:05:33possible. But if you ask me, as
00:05:37a political veteran, I can tell
00:05:39you
00:05:41that I am not sure
00:05:44when it comes to that, and
00:05:47I am quite afraid that we will have another difficult
00:05:50winter.
00:05:52Mostly your people, but everyone else around
00:05:56the world to
00:05:58a certain
00:06:01extent, to a certain degree. But on the other hand, I hope,
00:06:05I just
00:06:05hope
00:06:11without any facts to
00:06:14support, to buttress this hope that it will end
00:06:18tomorrow. But I don't see how that could happen, to be honest.
00:06:21I apologize for having to be honest
00:06:25and open, but I just wanted to add one more thing
00:06:28that Volodymyr just
00:06:31mentioned.
00:06:34This free trade agreement is of utmost
00:06:37importance
00:06:39to Ukraine. It is of utmost importance to our country. We will...
00:06:44work proactively, and I think we will quickly and efficiently
00:06:46deliver it to our people. On the other hand,
00:06:49I forgot to say that we
00:06:53promised the President
00:06:56of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, last time
00:07:00in Ukraine, even when we were still in Odesa,
00:07:04that we would take care of a small garden
00:07:08which was
00:07:10quite
00:07:13exposed to attacks during the war. And that is something we will
00:07:16do. We will invest a lot in it, and
00:07:19I believe that the Ukrainian
00:07:22people will appreciate such
00:07:48discussed the reconstruction of our
00:07:51state, not only after the war, but during the war.
00:07:54How much needs to be rebuilt when it comes
00:07:58to energy and other supply systems.
00:08:01Help for one city, regarding that,
00:08:05our team already developed a plan overnight,
00:08:09which we presented, and we really appreciate such a positive
00:08:17ballistic
00:08:19missiles,
00:08:25that is our life. That has been our life since the beginning of the war. You remember
00:08:28that very well. The first attack with
00:08:31missiles when Ukraine had nothing
00:08:35to repel those
00:08:37attacks.
00:08:39It is a very arduous task, how to...
00:08:53The primary manufacturer is America. Can they help? We are working with them. Will they
00:08:56allocate missiles for, say, a month? We have an agreement, but
00:08:59is that enough?
00:09:012026. I can't give
00:09:06you an exact number.
00:09:10with due respect to Germany and
00:09:42Poland, they both
00:09:45helped us, but who else could help you again? Now I'm
00:09:49telling you, who else? We are working
00:09:52with the Nordic countries, with the Netherlands. They are constantly
00:09:56helping us. I cannot say exactly how many
00:10:00missiles they are providing, but I am in daily contact
00:10:03with countries in Europe, in the Middle
00:10:06East. What can Ukraine get, and through this
00:10:09American package, these additional missiles?
00:10:13We are simply at a level where all
00:10:17institutions
00:10:22must work in that direction, not only the president, everyone must
00:10:25work in that direction, otherwise we will reach
00:10:28a shortage.
00:10:34Besides European colleagues, I just mentioned the Middle East. I'll be
00:10:38honest, South Korea and Japan could also help.
00:10:41Did they help us with air
00:10:45defense systems? No, because of their internal
00:10:48legislation and their constitutions, we
00:10:51did not receive relevant assistance.
00:11:04buy, but until now we haven't had that opportunity,
00:11:08even though we are discussing it. Another
00:11:12option is to have your own ballistic missiles,
00:11:15and you know that we are working on our own
00:11:18ballistic missiles. We are working with Germany, with
00:11:22the Netherlands, with Norwegian
00:11:26partners, with Denmark. We are working with all these
00:11:27countries. Italy, the company
00:11:31Leonardo, to build
00:11:34our own
00:11:35system.
00:11:41The Ukrainian company
00:11:45is a leader, here is Firepoint. I can now reveal
00:11:48their name. The private sector that is able to
00:11:51produce ballistic missiles.
00:11:55just mentioned, we will support them because they are the only ones
00:11:59involved, and we need to have
00:12:01another state company. I cannot reveal the name of that
00:12:05company. I mentioned Firepoint because they
00:12:08announced it themselves, and
00:12:11now it's too late to conceal and hide it, because there will be attacks on them
00:12:15anyway. But these are the companies that are working,
00:12:18and we will make sure they are not
00:12:21destroyed by the enemy. These are our own ballistic capabilities.
00:12:33We started working on another project,
00:12:36it's too early to say anything about it, but we have some
00:12:39success there as well, to better protect our
00:12:43sky, besides military
00:12:46targets in Russia and their
00:12:48systems.
00:12:55a special task for specific, specific
00:13:14Vučić. Both of you mentioned the European
00:13:17Union.
00:13:19In the overview of what you discussed,
00:13:23earlier this year you discussed with and
00:13:26advocated with the Prime Minister of Albania, Edi Rama, that the
00:13:30European Union should allow those
00:13:34countries that qualify for it to become
00:13:37members of the single market, not
00:13:40as a substitute, but as a step
00:13:44in the meantime on the path to full membership. Have you discussed this
00:13:47with your Ukrainian partners? Can you give us a general picture
00:13:51of the state of that
00:13:55debate? And a short question for the President of Ukraine,
00:13:58Zelenskyy.
00:14:01You partially touched on it, but can you tell
00:14:05us, Europeans, what we can specifically
00:14:08do to help you
00:14:11to kill more Russians, more Russian
00:14:14soldiers? Of course, I also ask you whether you
00:14:17discussed
00:14:20cooperation in the field
00:14:33any
00:14:36military cooperation today
00:14:37and at this
00:14:41time. What will
00:14:43happen
00:14:45when the war ends is another matter. And
00:14:49as for killing, I hope the killing will
00:14:53stop.
00:14:55To answer what was, I would say, the dominant topic for us
00:14:59last night in
00:15:00our discussions.
00:15:04We talked for a long time. I presented our
00:15:07position
00:15:09to President Zelenskyy. I fully understand
00:15:12Ukraine's position on that issue. Ukraine
00:15:16wants to open all clusters as quickly as possible.
00:15:19Ukraine wants fast membership in the European
00:15:23Union.
00:15:27I told President Zelenskyy
00:15:29that
00:15:31I understand all of that, and I understand of course that kind of
00:15:34enthusiasm.
00:15:37as President of Serbia, as someone who is a political veteran, I do not see at
00:15:41this moment
00:15:43the possibility, first of all for Serbia—I was not talking about Ukraine—so first
00:15:47of all for Serbia, to soon become a member of the European
00:15:49Union for numerous political
00:15:52reasons. I fully stand behind
00:15:55what I wrote together with the Prime Minister of Albania, Edi
00:15:59Rama. I think it is important for our
00:16:02region. I told President Zelenskyy that I think it would
00:16:06be important, good even for Ukraine, Moldova, and
00:16:10other, as they say, Eastern
00:16:13countries. And I think that is the reality. I don't believe,
00:16:17to be completely open, that
00:16:21all Europeans will be benevolent even towards
00:16:25Ukrainian membership. As you can see,
00:16:28I speak openly about No, they always find
00:16:31someone. For us, they will find some
00:16:34Croats, Bulgarians, Dutch, whoever.
00:16:37For Ukrainians, they will find some others. But I
00:16:41do not see at this moment the possibility for
00:16:43this to be realistically implemented.
00:16:47that, I understood all the hopes
00:16:51of President Zelenskyy. We wish Ukraine all the best, and as far as
00:16:54we are concerned, we will never as a country create a problem.
00:16:58We will never say, "First accept us, we started earlier,
00:17:02don't accept Ukraine." Ukraine will never
00:17:06have such a problem, at least not with a small
00:17:10country like Serbia. So, as far
00:17:13as we are concerned, I think it is terribly important for us. I was just looking at
00:17:17the data, dear Mihal, for the first
00:17:20half of this year, in terms of growth rate, we are at 3.5%,
00:17:24currently the first country in Europe according to Eurostat. Some others have not
00:17:28yet submitted data. The average Eurozone is
00:17:300.8%, Europe as a whole is 1%
00:17:34on average. So we are first in terms of
00:17:38growth rate in the first half of the year. Next year we expect
00:17:40a growth rate of Expo. I am grateful to Ukraine for
00:17:44coming to Expo, for participating in Expo. These are
00:17:48key topics for us. I spoke much more broadly than
00:17:52this about what I think exactly about everything and why
00:17:55I think the idea of a single market is of crucial
00:17:58importance for all of us, because I think
00:18:01that Ukraine has many natural resources, it has valuable
00:18:05people who can give a lot
00:18:07to Europe. So I
00:18:11think the same for Serbia. But if you ask me if
00:18:15I truly believe that there will be
00:18:18unanimity in Europe
00:18:21about accelerating European integration, I
00:18:24do not believe that.
00:18:27Unfortunately, it turned out that my skepticism was
00:18:29justified. Unfortunately, it turned out,
00:18:33unfortunately, it turned out that I was right, as you know.
00:18:36And it's not just a question of, as they will say,
00:18:40a merit-based concept, that is, whether someone measures something by your merits or not, because also, as
00:18:43you know, we have fulfilled four out of
00:18:47four conditions that they gave us now for opening cluster
00:18:513. We fulfilled all four, the cluster was not opened,
00:18:54because there are always some countries that will say something.
00:18:58I just wish Ukraine all the best, but
00:19:01I am a realist.
00:19:05I think that the mood
00:19:07in Europe is that the political crisis is so
00:19:11deep in certain member states, some of
00:19:14the most important member states, that it will
00:19:17be very, very difficult to achieve anything
00:19:20substantial in the coming period. And that is why I
00:19:23said, we Serbs
00:19:26will engage, dedicate ourselves, and
00:19:29focus on
00:19:31economic
00:19:33growth,
00:19:36to make as many free trade agreements as possible, to
00:19:39cooperate with all countries on a bilateral
00:19:43basis to help further
00:19:53ambition about the European path,
00:19:55and he, as far as I
00:19:59understood, wants to open all
00:20:02clusters as soon as possible. He considers that the biggest and most important challenge for
00:20:05Ukraine, taking into account
00:20:09the war conflicts. So on that path, we wish him and
00:20:13his country all the best and much success. As far
00:20:16as Serbia is concerned, we will always fully support that, and without
00:20:20that, but you know we complain where Serbia is and
00:20:23why Serbia didn't get something. We don't have a problem with that. We understood
00:20:27the messages from certain member states long ago, with
00:20:31all gratitude to Ursula von der Leyen and António Costa for the enormous
00:20:35support they provided to us Serbs in the previous
00:20:38period, and for us that is not, to
00:20:41be completely honest, a particularly big question. And as for Ukraine,
00:20:44we talked for a long time, we talked for several hours last night,
00:20:47about this for the longest time.
00:20:51I truly think that the single market and open borders are the most important,
00:20:55but I understand Ukraine's enthusiasm and ambition,
00:21:20reality and enthusiasm
00:21:24are at stake when choosing the path towards
00:21:26the European Union. I understand Aleksandar's
00:21:30skepticism, which he shared with me yesterday quite in detail.
00:21:34Ukraine has no
00:21:37skepticism.
00:21:42It's just, how to tell you, we understand what
00:21:45Ukraine must be in the future. First, it's the path we took.
00:22:20And despite all that, we
00:22:22gained that status. I fight for it every day,
00:22:26and sometimes it can
00:22:29seem
00:22:31so far away and so unattainable, but
00:22:35we are making
00:22:38those dreams come true. There is unity in our
00:22:41state. We must not
00:22:45destroy that unity.
00:22:49And there is
00:22:55and they also have some internal issues
00:22:58when elections happen, some changes. Many,
00:23:02many are the issues that need to be
00:23:04balanced.
00:23:12done, so that we can open all that we want, but we must be
00:23:15confident, and I am confident that we can
00:23:18do it, no matter what lies
00:23:22ahead of us. When it comes to what is needed from
00:23:25Europe, I truly believe that
00:23:29we need more support, with all due
00:23:31respect to resolve and deal with
00:23:35financial
00:23:36challenges.
00:23:39There was a positive decision about 90 billion euros, and
00:23:43Aleksandar already thanked Ursula and
00:23:46António. They really helped
00:23:50us a lot, and I am also grateful
00:23:53to the leaders of the European Union who, no matter how
00:23:56difficult it was, found an opportunity to support
00:24:00Ukraine with this money. That is our
00:24:04survival.
00:24:09When we talk about how
00:24:12someone can help us, we need money. And we
00:24:15need to
00:24:16survive.
00:24:29It's cheaper to finance our military and
00:24:33defense equipment, so we have to fight for
00:24:37every penny every
00:24:39day.
00:24:43Something is still unknown, but I see a lot and I know a lot.
00:24:46We still need more
00:24:50money so that our defense
00:24:53industry can produce twice as much as it produces today. These
00:24:57are huge, huge sums of money, billions. Today, the
00:25:01President asked me that question, I shared it with him, and
00:25:04I will not reveal it to the media
00:25:08today. But Ukraine
00:25:12does not have the money that Russia uses for its
00:25:15war. We will not have it, but we have what...
00:25:19što...
00:25:50literally from every continent, including our close partners,
00:25:54these components reach
00:25:58Russia, then they strike and hit our
00:26:01people, and children
00:26:04die, civilians die,
00:26:08our warriors, our fighters die. So sanction
00:26:11Russian weapons and the supply of these
00:26:15components. That is first and
00:26:18foremost. They profit from it. They spend
00:26:21the profits on war. The war
00:26:24is important.
00:26:26It is also important that Russia is not given the opportunity to earn
00:26:30billions. Now we are talking about
00:26:32bureaucracy. Bureaucracy is a serious matter, it is a serious
00:26:36problem. I apologize for returning
00:26:39again to ballistic missiles, but
00:26:43I discussed this with President Biden
00:26:47during the first year of this war. I persistently asked
00:26:50him to give me
00:26:53missiles and permission to produce those missiles. And I discussed it with our
00:26:57partners in the first year of the war, in the second, in the third
00:27:01year of the war.
00:27:05to cooperate in the military industry, to give us
00:27:09some permits, but some issues are still unresolved. Now we have
00:27:12agreed with President Trump that we will get these permits, but
00:27:16imagine
00:27:18if we had gotten them four years
00:27:20ago. Now we would be
00:27:23building Patriots. We could
00:27:27share them with Europeans. We would have all
00:27:30of that. I am absolutely
00:27:33convinced of all that, but now we are still
00:27:37in paperwork.
00:27:41It is not a paper missile that hits our people, kills
00:27:45them.
00:27:47I said that the Americans gave something, then there are the Europeans.
00:28:01Zelenskyy, Serbia and Ukraine are simultaneously negotiating
00:28:05membership in the European Union. In the meantime, cooperation
00:28:08in that process has been formalized. How do you see whether
00:28:12Serbia and Ukraine could be partners instead of rivals in that process?
00:28:15And if you allow me one more question, can
00:28:19Serbia, can the citizens of Serbia still count on Ukraine's firm
00:28:22stance on the non-recognition of the unilaterally declared
00:28:35Thank you. First of all, we are partners,
00:28:38and that is a fact. The free trade agreement,
00:28:42first of all, we are partners, that is true, and the free trade agreement, all other
00:28:46things we talked about with the President yesterday and today, and
00:28:49it is true that we had extremely frank discussions,
00:28:53completely frank and open discussions. We talked about many
00:28:56things that are not for the public, but it is
00:28:59very important that
00:29:03we have a vision of partnership in these matters. That is very
00:29:07important. We respect the territorial integrity of our
00:29:10partners, we respect international law. That is our
00:29:14position.
00:29:17Regarding what you said about the unilaterally declared
00:29:19independence of Kosovo, that remains
00:29:22unchanged. We have always emphasized this, and
00:29:25Ukraine's policy has not changed. We are equally
00:29:29grateful to our partners for respecting territorial.
00:29:42Serbia's stance also remains unchanged, especially in
00:29:46parliament. We are truly partners, not
00:29:50rivals, so some would push us into that
00:29:54kind of rivalry,
00:29:56we have, especially recently with some others,
00:30:00absolutely given up on that.
00:30:02"As for Ukraine, we have never been rivals on that
00:30:06issue, but truly sincere partners and
00:30:08friends, and everything that President Zelensky
00:30:12said, he said it correctly and thank
00:30:16him for using it as an opportunity,
00:30:19and we will continue to cooperate, I believe
00:30:23that there are numerous areas
00:30:27in which our cooperation can be doubled
00:30:31and tripled." Moreover, if you look at the trade
00:30:34exchange in '25 and '26 compared to what we
00:30:37had in '20, '21, so
00:30:40both before the war and after that, that is
00:30:44'22, '23, that is a huge difference,
00:30:47and I believe that in that regard, our trade
00:30:51exchange and exchange in the service sector can only
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