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00:00:22Good evening, this is another red line, I am Marina Fratucan. Omiš,
00:00:25Brač, Deliblatska Peščara, tables, the area around Trebinje and Mostar,
00:00:29could they have been prevented or at least brought under control faster,
00:00:33was the reaction of everyone in the chain of fire extinguishing in the countries
00:00:36of the region timely? How much do the countries of the region work on fire prevention,
00:00:40do firefighters have adequate equipment, could helicopters have
00:00:44been used earlier, and citizens warned earlier, when will
00:00:48we view fires as a consequence, whose causes should be addressed
00:00:51and finally, what about burned areas whose
00:00:54remediation sometimes takes more than decades, more prevention,
00:00:58less operative? About fires in the countries of the region on the red line tonight,
00:01:02Slobodan Milanović, professor at the Faculty of Forestry in Belgrade, Slavko
00:01:05Tucaković, chief fire commander in Croatia, and Božidar Kasalo, head
00:01:16of course, during the past month
00:01:19and more than a month, actually, almost two. September is the month,
00:01:22the situation on the ground should somehow calm down, we hope it
00:01:26is. However, even last weekend there were.
00:01:30active fires, primarily in Croatia, on Brač, Mr.
00:01:33Tucaković, that is one of the biggest fires,
00:01:36apart from the one that was, of course, in Omiš, which claimed human
00:01:39lives, as far as I understood, 14%
00:01:42of Brač was burned, you correct me if that is
00:01:46not the case, a large number of firefighters, about 200, according
00:01:49to the data from the wider area, dozens
00:01:52of vehicles, Canadair and so
00:01:54on, uh, I mentioned prevention in the introduction,
00:01:58you also mentioned it. What would you say
00:02:02now, at the end of September and after
00:02:05a really turbulent fire season in
00:02:08Croatia, what is the situation, who really failed,
00:02:12did it really have to be like this, well, first of all, thank you for the invitation to the
00:02:16show, I greet my colleagues, so I can
00:02:19say that this morning the fire on the island of Brač was localized, we can
00:02:22conclude that according to initial estimates, we have about 500
00:02:26hectares of burned surface, so dry grass, low...
00:02:30vegetation and some pine forest,
00:02:32so a large number of firefighters, who
00:02:36came to extinguish this fire, means first of all
00:02:39forces from the island of Brač were called, then Split-Dalmatia County, which were
00:02:43immediately introduced, and at the same time, forces were launched
00:02:47from the entire coast, from Primorje-Gorski Kotar,
00:02:50Istria all the way to Dubrovnik, Neretva, Šibenik, Zadar,
00:02:54so all the forces that were needed at that moment, uh,
00:02:57went to Brač, so to fight this
00:03:00fire, so, besides that fire on Brač,
00:03:03which was really big, violent, let's remember
00:03:07the fire near Omiš which was devastating, I would
00:03:11call it, I don't know, in my 15 years of career as
00:03:14chief fire commander, I haven't seen such a fire, something so
00:03:18terrible and when we talk about the color of the flame, it was not
00:03:22yellow, orange or red, but purple, which was
00:03:26really spreading due to strong wind, unfortunately there were
00:03:29also uh fatalities,
00:03:33so there are still people in the hospital in serious condition,
00:03:37really sincere condolences to all those who
00:03:40suffered here in the fire, so a great
00:03:43material damage that happened, so
00:03:46to people, some houses were burned or partially burned, so on
00:03:49agricultural and facilities, but also vineyards
00:03:53and everything else that was mentioned, it's irreparable damage when a fire occurs, so not only in
00:03:57terms of what I'm talking about.
00:04:00about direct damage, but also long-term damage, so there is no
00:04:03more forest, no life, no plants, no more animal world
00:04:07that was and all that happened and the worst thing that will
00:04:11happen now are floods or soil erosion that
00:04:14will happen and will actually take away, make one uh
00:04:18even worse damage in what could have happened, something worst that
00:04:21can happen, so it is now very necessary to react
00:04:25very quickly, so both with afforestation and with removal of trees,
00:04:29we are now in... in the area of Milna we found what burned ten
00:04:32years ago, those trees were still there, they are still there, so they burned again,
00:04:36you know, no one removed them and so on and so forth, so a lot needs to be
00:04:40established there and we can talk about it for a long, long time, is prevention
00:04:43a failure, well look, I've been talking about prevention for a long time
00:04:47and we will talk about it and we will this year, so we have already had two
00:04:51meetings this year, we talked about what everyone needs
00:04:54to do, how, but now we will push it even
00:04:57more because prevention is actually the key to success,
00:05:00this "more prevention, less operative" is the
00:05:04key to success, so everything is overgrown, everything is
00:05:06neglected, there are no roads, as we saw in the Omiš area
00:05:10when there was a fire, there are very few... roads, roads are narrow, so
00:05:14they need to be cleared, they need to be built, but not only that, they also need to be maintained, it's not
00:05:18enough to build a road if we won't maintain it and so
00:05:21on, so in that prevention, we can talk a lot
00:05:25and that's something that we all need to talk about, so about
00:05:28early detection, we have invested a lot in early detection, so fires,
00:05:32280 cameras monitor all that, there are people, there are
00:05:36patrols and so on, did it fail, we know that the
00:05:39notification system in Omiš failed, uh...
00:05:42We heard that, the SMS didn't arrive, well, I don't know if the SMS should have
00:05:46been sent or not, we can talk about that when it comes to
00:05:49such rapid events that spread at high speed,
00:05:53so that early warning system for early warning, the
00:05:57name itself implies, so while we have time, however, here when you have
00:05:59a uh lightning-fast spread of fire, so what
00:06:03would happen, so an example we had in the Rus Kamen hotel, when
00:06:07we locked people in the hotel, we didn't let them out, we actually saved a lot
00:06:11of lives. The same thing was done in the Milna area when we
00:06:14in the area of the Gava Gava hotel, also
00:06:18a large number of people were accommodated in the hotel, they were not allowed to go out until the fire passed, the fire
00:06:22passed very quickly, so that is a matter of the commander's decision on
00:06:25the ground. We will continue to discuss this prevention that
00:06:29you touched upon, so we can also talk about what that prevention means with
00:06:33these upcoming landslides and rain that you announced,
00:06:36so uh, very
00:06:39high fire danger index, dry plants.
00:06:42So, that's what is definitely known and what needs to be acted upon, so,
00:06:46to act now, because we have to act now for what will
00:06:49happen to us in four or five years, the danger index is very high,
00:06:53it has moved far to the north of Europe, so we have to talk
00:06:56about that and it will happen to us, dehydration of plants and that is no longer good,
00:07:00who should act there, excuse me for interrupting you, who should act there,
00:07:03I assume from local self-government units in whose
00:07:07jurisdiction it is, counties and the state, so all together, meaning not just one
00:07:11individual can solve it because there is a variety of ownership and forests
00:07:14and and and land and so on, you have private
00:07:18ownership, you have state ownership, that's the essence, so we get in
00:07:21such situations when there is
00:07:24a long drought, long waves, we get a completely different class
00:07:28of fire, it's no longer class A fire but
00:07:31B, so our essential oils are burning,
00:07:34Mr. Tucaković, Serbia was also not spared from large
00:07:38fires, Tinja continues somewhere, Deliblatska Peščara, somehow
00:07:41it will remain. Stolovi as well, but Deliblatska
00:07:45Peščara, one would say the most, uh, you have talked
00:07:48a lot about preventive action, from some
00:07:51four factors, isn't that right, which we
00:07:55should keep in mind to act accordingly on those
00:07:58causes, so how would you evaluate that prevention, which of course
00:08:02everyone talks about as the most important when it comes to
00:08:16often talk about four groups of factors that define, or
00:08:20influence the occurrence of fires themselves, where
00:08:23first of all, the greatest importance is given to anthropogenic
00:08:27factors, in fact, 95%, perhaps even a
00:08:30higher percentage of fires occur under the influence of
00:08:32man, so these factors
00:08:36must be taken into account when forecasting
00:08:40the risk of fire, mhm. The index that my colleague from
00:08:43Croatia mentioned, I assume he meant the fire weather index, that is
00:08:47one
00:08:50uh index that defines the probability, i.e., the state
00:08:54of combustible material and burning conditions,
00:08:58but it does not speak of the real
00:09:00danger because, as I said, someone needs to start
00:09:04that fire, so that very
00:09:08fire weather index, its values for Deliblatska
00:09:11Peščara were, for example. for example, on that August 5th,
00:09:14they were very extreme, i.e.,
00:09:18over 50, between 50 and 70, there is another higher
00:09:21threshold where those values are above 70, uh
00:09:26that somewhat explains why we had such
00:09:29uh such consequences and why it was so
00:09:32difficult to bring that same fire under control, which the
00:09:36members of the sector for emergency situations in 21
00:09:39and I assume colleagues from Vojvodina Šuma. "within
00:09:43a few hours brought under control, but this index was known,
00:09:46I assume, excuse me for interrupting you, this index that you mentioned was, I was
00:09:50there even before that fifth, no or not, uh, it
00:09:54was significantly lower, 21 was
00:09:57between 10 and 20, mhm, this is probably
00:10:01one of the reasons why they were able to so easily,
00:10:05i.e., in just a few hours bring that fire under
00:10:08control, that explains the difference between the 21st
00:10:12and the 5th. of July and
00:10:16August 5th. Uh, so, you said that
00:10:20one of the factors is of course climate change, you mentioned the amount of combustible
00:10:23material, human and terrain configuration. Now, climate change, we can't really
00:10:27influence too much at that moment
00:10:30or
00:10:32earlier, but we know roughly that summers are getting hotter, not colder,
00:10:36and that index you mentioned, if it was 20 something in July, uh,
00:10:40I assume that experts know that it will increase during
00:10:44August, logically, considering the weather
00:10:47conditions, which will certainly be unfavorable,
00:10:50they should know and they should use those publicly available
00:10:54information more, first of all, because our Republican
00:10:57Hydrometeorological Institute has been generating data on the fire weather
00:11:01index since 2008
00:11:0324 or 25 permanent hydrometeorological
00:11:06stations, also information on the fire weather index can
00:11:10be found on the portal of the European Forest Fire Information System
00:11:14and what is
00:11:17another advantage, this system provides a
00:11:20forecast for about eight to nine days in advance,
00:11:24so that...
00:11:34days in advance so that you can somehow prepare your resources,
00:11:37allocate personnel to those areas where the
00:11:41uh danger will certainly be higher, was that
00:11:45done adequately in your opinion? Well, I
00:11:48think that this information is not used adequately
00:11:52and that that's why we might have had
00:11:55this situation, not only now, but also in previous years, similar
00:11:59situations, when it comes to, and as for
00:12:02prevention, what remains for us
00:12:06is to try to manage combustible
00:12:09material for a longer period, that's the only thing we
00:12:13can influence,
00:12:16in a sense, we can also influence people, but let's remember
00:12:19the situation from before, from last year when we had
00:12:23over 600 fires in one day, meaning...
00:12:25there will be a certain number of people who, no matter how much we
00:12:29raise awareness about the importance of forests, the danger that threatens us from
00:12:32fires, simply to some people that
00:12:36information will not reach them or they will not process it, they will not
00:12:39accept it, they will behave as they behave, i.e.,
00:12:43they will set some 600 fires every day somewhere,
00:12:47but it will depend on the fire weather index, i.e., on the condition
00:12:50of the combustible material, to be more precise,
00:12:53whether those... 600 fires will become
00:12:57real fires that will then be a big challenge for
00:13:00uh the resources we have and which we can use to extinguish
00:13:04forest fires. In the continuation, we will see the story from Omiš
00:13:07unfortunately from Deliblatska Peščara, what you mentioned, that the information was not used
00:13:11adequately, do you expect uh some investigation,
00:13:25since a lot has really burned, it's not exactly that I think some
00:13:29lessons must be learned that in the future
00:13:33in the future we should use more information that is
00:13:36publicly available and that can be publicly available if some
00:13:40funds were invested uh to
00:13:43be able to produce that information that firefighters,
00:13:45i.e., our members of the sector for emergencies, could use very usefully
00:13:49in that
00:13:52way to save their lives and... and property
00:13:56and above all the environment, yes, we often
00:13:59forget that, you didn't answer me about this responsibility, this responsibility,
00:14:03do you expect, I know it's not your
00:14:05domain, but do you simply expect, as
00:14:09someone who deals with these issues, I don't mean to
00:14:12initiate, but I deal with fire research,
00:14:16I assume that there are responsible people in
00:14:20uh the Ministry of Internal Affairs who should conduct
00:14:23investigations related to... the occurrence of fires, but these things can,
00:14:27we'll see if that happens, when it comes to Bosnia and Herzegovina, Mr. Kasalo,
00:14:30fires have not bypassed Bosnia and Herzegovina,
00:14:34Trebinje, Mostar, Livno near you, everything
00:14:38around was burning, so how would you evaluate,
00:14:41we saw problems with equipment,
00:14:43outdated uh, but also
00:14:47areas that were defended, how would you evaluate, here it is already
00:14:51here, hopefully the fire season is coming to an end for you too.
00:15:03fire season ahead of us, although we
00:15:07uh are not sufficiently equipped
00:15:09with equipment, which should be used by firefighters and fire brigades
00:15:13and civil protection services that act against
00:15:17fires, mm the vehicle fleet is, for example, older,
00:15:19the average age of the vehicle fleet is over 30 years,
00:15:23old, we don't have, how should I
00:15:26say, local self-governments are facing the fact that mostly
00:15:30only they finance,
00:15:32uh, firefighting, very few from higher
00:15:36levels of government.
00:15:38In the future, if it continues
00:15:41like this, it won't be good,
00:15:45we won't be able to act because all
00:15:47the seasons are demanding
00:15:49in the current moment there is a large
00:15:53one in the neighboring municipality
00:15:56of Posušje and I would like to take this
00:15:59opportunity to commend the great
00:16:02help of the Government of the Republic, often when the
00:16:06population is endangered, it sends facilities.
00:16:09Also ,
00:16:13a big role as legal
00:16:15entities,
00:16:18forest societies which
00:16:21manage forests should
00:16:24take much more action regarding
00:16:27fire roads, clearings and so on, so that
00:16:30mm it could be prevented
00:16:33in that
00:16:53Bosnia and Herzegovina, now that is compared to fires destroying
00:16:56an area equal to 105,000 football
00:16:59fields and that it will be even worse in the
00:17:03future, what is the problem with Bosnia and Herzegovina, as far as
00:17:06I understand, uh there are no specialized
00:17:10fire-fighting aircraft in Bosnia and Herzegovina that should
00:17:13uh exist, but they
00:17:16don't, so they say.
00:17:18Uh, mhm,
00:17:22you said two years ago Herceg-Bosna Canton,
00:17:25West Herzegovina and Herzegovina-Neretva
00:17:28Canton signed an agreement and
00:17:32rented e-tractors from the Republic of Croatia that proved to be
00:17:36of great help to us. These two seasons,
00:17:39only the airport brda in Livno is used
00:17:43for air tractor operations, where they are loaded when it comes
00:17:47to fires in Herceg-Bosna
00:17:49Canton, only a minimum of
00:17:5250 uh flights were from
00:17:55there, but of course the
00:17:58third level authorities should have already
00:18:02had them from your
00:18:04own
00:18:07yes. So either helicopters or what do you call them, maybe Canadairs
00:18:10or maybe for our area
00:18:13helicopters, because the ground
00:18:16forces themselves on inaccessible forest
00:18:20terrains uh can
00:18:23do very little, there are large altitudes in question,
00:18:27uh cliffs,
00:18:30ravines and so on where sometimes it is
00:18:33impossible to reach and operate in those areas,
00:18:37yes... What can be read is that
00:18:40Bosnia and Herzegovina actually has helicopters that can be engaged in firefighting, but
00:18:44it does not have its own specialized firefighting fleet,
00:18:48let's go back to Omiš where unfortunately there were
00:18:51human casualties, so a catastrophic fire hit the area of
00:18:54Omiš and surrounding places, Lokvar, Ogoznica,
00:18:58Mimice, Nemira, Staničići in mid-August
00:19:002026. Three people died, more than
00:19:0440 were injured, and over 2,000 people were evacuated. The Government
00:19:08of Croatia and the city of Zagreb offered help in remediating the consequences
00:19:11of the fire, but the question remains what we talked about, could it have been
00:19:15prevented and why did the early warning and
00:19:18crisis management system that cost 8.4 million
00:19:21euros fail? SMS messages were not received by the residents of Omiš,
00:19:24nor by numerous domestic or foreign
00:19:27tourists.
00:19:30In this fight with nature, everyone lost. As soon as
00:19:33night fell, hell descended upon Omiš. A strong
00:19:37wind with elements of a hurricane-force bora pushed the fire over
00:19:40the mountain, dry thousand hectares burned, the fire
00:19:44reached the cliffs of the city, people in panic abandoned
00:19:47their homes, left their cars on the highway, fleeing to
00:19:51the sea, there they served guests who told me they felt
00:19:55some smoke, I didn't go after that because
00:19:58the cook is constantly burning wood and we thought it was that, and at one
00:20:02moment I turned my head and saw a big flame, I grabbed a hose to
00:20:06go put it out, but... it started blowing, it lifted
00:20:09everything, I barely saved the car, at the last moment and killed
00:20:13him, come on he says, embers are
00:20:15flying in the yard, I then ran out, the house
00:20:19was left unlocked, I grabbed the spoon, look how
00:20:23I was crying, fire is burning on both sides, I'm driving
00:20:26the car, and behind the fire there were catastrophic
00:20:29and enormous material consequences, burned
00:20:33houses, cars, black and broken trees that are
00:20:37still smoking. Firefighters who fought the
00:20:40fiery element near Omiš all night say that when they arrived at this
00:20:44very specific and inaccessible terrain, the fire was already
00:20:48in a raging phase. on the ground, houses were already
00:20:51threatened, we had to fight for every house, every street,
00:20:55now when a fire burns 100 hectares in four
00:20:59hours, you know the power of that fire, the power of nature, the sports
00:21:02hall in Omiš was too small to accommodate all the evacuated
00:21:06local residents and foreign tourists, so many
00:21:09people were transported by organized
00:21:12transport to Split. The Prime Minister of Croatia
00:21:15was asked why citizens were not warned via
00:21:19the so-called system. Plenković's response was not
00:21:22direct, nor did he specify whether the possibility
00:21:25of sending such a message was considered, he only
00:21:28emphasized the speed with which the fire spread. Here
00:21:31the situation was obviously fast in terms of wind at night,
00:21:35if it had been day, Canadairs would have operated during the day. And that
00:21:38is unfortunately what was missing. I think they were
00:21:42really so superhumanly sacrificial that what
00:21:46was managed to be saved is a real miracle. The
00:21:50President of Croatia, Milanović, first stated that it was
00:21:53a terrible event, natural, then he
00:21:56wondered, maybe it was not only natural, we don't know
00:22:00and remained ambiguous. Nenad
00:22:03Nešić, N1,
00:22:04Belgrade.
00:22:09Well, Mr. Tucaković, we saw these truly distressing scenes, I think that
00:22:12truly, I don't know, you say that in 15 years you haven't seen
00:22:16anything like this, there were
00:22:18fires
00:22:20in 2017
00:22:23and 2012, I think some years are mentioned when a lot
00:22:26uh uh burned but
00:22:29not like this as you yourself said, uh you said that we should talk
00:22:32a little about this uh
00:22:36notification system where you said that maybe it wasn't even necessary,
00:22:39what exactly did you mean? Here we see that Prime Minister Plenković didn't
00:22:42comment excessively what is actually happening, is it good or
00:22:46not good? Well look, I uh...
00:22:50"I can responsibly claim that only firefighters, that is, the idiots commanded
00:22:54by my colleagues, so colleague Pešić spoke, and
00:22:57colleague county commander Kovačević, then I arrived
00:23:01an hour after the fire started and I was
00:23:04in the fire all night, I was even in
00:23:07mortal danger twice, I know very well what the firefighters
00:23:11were doing there, they were defending house by house, actually
00:23:14they were only defending and evacuating and doing everything they could
00:23:18so that no one would be hurt." "nothing, so here I really have to thank
00:23:22the police, civil protection who really immediately got involved
00:23:25and helped uh people, all tourists in this
00:23:28area, so I mentioned earlier whether to
00:23:32activate the early warning system, so here we are
00:23:35talking about a very uh lightning-fast fire, so
00:23:38a very fast one that developed very quickly, so a hurricane-force
00:23:42bora was blowing, so the fire was spreading, we had conditions
00:23:45favorable for fire, so it was dehydration
00:23:49of plants, so..." and everything else, so it was an inaccessible terrain,
00:23:52it was a terrain with narrow streets, so
00:23:56everything had to be done quickly and I can really say that the firefighters
00:23:59did their job heroically, really gave their all, as did these
00:24:03services that were there, so I can say that very
00:24:06quickly in the first moment over 200 people were accommodated and organized in
00:24:10the hall, then some people were transferred further to
00:24:13Split, so we saw foreigners too, yes, we saw in
00:24:17the report a very quick organization of the city and the county. and everything else that was
00:24:21there, the people who were there, but also the citizens themselves who
00:24:24self-organized, poured water around, so a large number
00:24:28of houses were saved, we must talk about that, so how many houses were
00:24:31saved, how many lives, did it perhaps happen that we allowed
00:24:35evacuation from Ruskamen hotel, so we
00:24:38left people in the hotel, don't go out
00:24:41with two vehicles we saved that hotel, so nobody was
00:24:45injured there, so we did the same thing in the area of
00:24:47Brač when the commander
00:24:50made the decision everyone to the hotel, close the hotel, I can say
00:24:53that this action was very well done, however,
00:24:57unfortunately what I can say is that there was a fatal
00:25:00accident, that is the worst thing that can happen to a person,
00:25:04to people, we saw all of that in the report, the dedication of firefighters in
00:25:08both cases in all others, we
00:25:11see that in footage across Croatia and of course Serbia
00:25:15and Bosnia and Herzegovina, that is absolutely not in question, what I asked you and
00:25:18what you insisted on a lot about that prevention, and you did not
00:25:22specifically answer my question about this notification system via
00:25:26SMS, as we receive a notification that there
00:25:29will be some, I said, so I already said in the first part of my
00:25:33answers, so when we talk about an early
00:25:35warning system, we are talking about an early warning system, it
00:25:39failed, no,
00:25:42don't say that, I don't agree, I don't agree with you,
00:25:46so we are talking about an early warning system, so
00:25:50it was about a fire that started with lightning speed and it was necessary to
00:25:53approach it, in that sense what would have happened if
00:25:57we had turned it on, if 500 people had left this hotel to the fire,
00:26:01mhm, what would have happened. the assessment was that it was not necessary at
00:26:04that moment, it was a big event that was already
00:26:08caused, which was on the ground in a very, very
00:26:12big heat, so it's like having an explosion, you understand,
00:26:16clearly, and in that sense, the assessment was that if an SMS had been sent, there would have been more
00:26:19panic and more victims, maybe more victims, that assessment was like that at
00:26:23that moment, now that prevention, you talked a lot about it
00:26:26and that's exactly what we said, more prevention,
00:26:29less, uh, more prevention. less, yes,
00:26:33now in this specific case, what should have been more prevention or
00:26:37what could have been, could it have been at all, what
00:26:40should have been done in specific cases, but we must generally talk about all areas
00:26:44of all local units and regional self-governments, so we are talking about
00:26:48building roads, road passability, we are talking
00:26:51about arranging forest roads, arranging forest areas, we
00:26:55have a wonderful example uh, so, uh,
00:26:59the area of the city of Skradin when we made a projection.
00:27:03"what would happen, what will happen, what is the fire risk
00:27:06if we don't arrange the areas and how much it is when we arrange the areas and the
00:27:10risk decreases, so we have everything in digital form and everything can
00:27:14be checked, so we, that was done where from the area of the city of
00:27:18Skradin, uh, and over
00:27:205,000 uh cubic meters
00:27:24of wood mass were removed, mhm, you know what it is, now we have roads,
00:27:28streets, so the national park was involved, Croatian forests
00:27:31uh..." the fire commander of the Šibenik-Knin
00:27:34county, so everyone was involved and it showed that
00:27:38it can be done, so it should continue like that, mhm, good, that is one of
00:27:41the forms of prevention, when it comes to Serbia, now we will soon watch
00:27:45a report from the Deliblato Sands, which we talked about the most,
00:27:48Mr. Milanović, just to clarify, does Serbia have
00:27:52this, I am now insisting on that SMS notification, we heard
00:27:55why this system was not activated at this moment, the assessment
00:27:59was such, uh, Serbia has notification when there are some
00:28:03disasters that are coming, weather disasters, whether they are
00:28:06thunderstorms or winds, do we also have such a system for
00:28:10warning for fires,
00:28:13well, I think it is a unique system that
00:28:17this only depends on the type of danger, just as
00:28:20they warn us about extreme weather conditions such as
00:28:24storms, they should also warn us if
00:28:27there is a great danger of fire in a certain
00:28:30territory. "It wasn't here, if I am well
00:28:34informed, well, to tell you the truth,
00:28:38I don't have such information whether such a system was activated,
00:28:42whether it should have been activated, considering that if you mean the Deliblato Sands, considering that
00:28:45the Sands were burning, now yes,
00:28:49but at some moments it already approached populated
00:28:53areas, we also saw that there were problems there, no, yes,
00:28:56several populated areas were threatened, but at that moment
00:29:00as far as I know, members of the directorate for emergency
00:29:03situations were there, so they directly carried out the evacuation,
00:29:07it seems to me, people from Šušara, I don't know for
00:29:09other places. Let's see how it really looked
00:29:13in the Deliblato Sands, the responsibility that
00:29:16Serbia as a state and society fell short on, and the consequences are suffered by both plant
00:29:19and animal life that will need decades to recover, as they say.
00:29:23The Deliblato Sands, known to the scientific or general public
00:29:27as an area highly susceptible to fires. Why then did the system
00:29:30of preventive early warning fail? The public, along with the demand for an investigation
00:29:34of responsibility, also asks who benefited from this
00:29:37and why, especially if only a few days after
00:29:40suspicions about the construction of wind farms on the burned Deliblato Sands were
00:29:44declared misinformation, lies, the Serbian Parliament quietly
00:29:48passed amendments to the law that allow exactly that, paving the way for
00:29:52similar changes in land use affected by some of the 60
00:29:55large fires this season,
00:29:59how the Deliblato Sands became a del... swamp.
00:30:02Those who tried to answer this
00:30:06question could go to prison for spreading
00:30:09panic,
00:30:10one should not
00:30:14use
00:30:17through political, through alleged political
00:30:19struggle
00:30:21untruths for someone to gain
00:30:25certain political
00:30:28points, that is simply not
00:30:30true, it is a lie... It is ultimately
00:30:34shameful, it is hypocritical. Who lied
00:30:37on August 7th when the same minister stated that
00:30:41Serbia did not need help.
00:30:44This was the fire on August
00:30:475th. Look.
00:30:50This was the fire on August
00:30:537th. He states that things are under
00:30:56control. You should have activated it already then.