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00:00:00We have brought a person who will tell us
00:00:03what today's Gen Z really wants. What does the government,
00:00:07the Modi government, the Prime Minister expect from the youth and what
00:00:11promises is the government bringing before
00:00:15this youth? Let's talk
00:00:17to Union Minister for Parliamentary Affairs and Minority
00:00:21Affairs, Kiran Rijiju
00:00:41the Parliament, is better than
00:00:44the youth's Parliament.
00:00:47actually, I had gone there for work. Here we get energy. There, a little tension
00:00:50is created. Here, it's tension-free with children, with youth.
00:00:53Why is that? Why do you find angry uncles in
00:00:57the Parliament? It's like that.
00:01:01When you fail again and again,
00:01:04you get a little angry.
00:01:30there is a criticism, you know, because
00:01:33you earlier, in fact, you defined what a 'dimagi naxal'
00:01:37is. Now people say that whenever questions are asked,
00:01:41whenever a young person stands up, whenever the opposition stands up, sometimes you call
00:01:45them 'dimagi naxal,' then you call them an angry
00:01:48uncle. Why? Look, there is politics in this. People
00:01:51set their own narratives. We cannot advise
00:01:55anyone on that. But we can speak our mind.
00:01:58Now, why do you call someone a naxal? The
00:02:01foundation of naxalism, how
00:02:05did it form? It was a naxal
00:02:07movement to create a separate system against
00:02:11the Constitution of India. They have
00:02:14their own courts. You have seen them catch villagers,
00:02:17police, and army personnel,
00:02:21take them to their courts,
00:02:24hold hearings, and then shoot them. They don't believe
00:02:28in the Constitution of India. So, those
00:02:31who hold the naxal or Maoist ideology
00:02:34do not believe in the Constitution of India.
00:02:37Secondly, they have distorted it further
00:02:40to separate Jammu and Kashmir, to separate Northeast India.
00:02:44They use the name of 'azadi' (freedom)
00:02:48and raise slogans of 'azadi' and say that everyone should have
00:02:52the freedom to live separately from India in their own way.
00:02:54So, this is a separatist mindset.
00:02:58This is the second point I mentioned. The third point
00:03:02is that to hinder India's growth story,
00:03:06when India progresses rapidly, they adopt
00:03:09various tactics to stop it.
00:03:13If we have an industrial unit, they instigate
00:03:17agitations in the name of the environment to shut it down,
00:03:20and to stop good projects like highways
00:03:24from being built. So, to obstruct India's growth story,
00:03:28they create obstacles. So,
00:03:32those who work to shatter India's dreams,
00:03:35we will call them 'naxal mindset.'
00:03:39So, it's 'dimagi naxal.' That's why I clearly
00:03:43stated that we have never called
00:03:46the opposition 'dimagi naxal.' But if you are
00:03:50an opposition MP and you fall into the categories
00:03:53I mentioned, then what can we do? But then how do you decide
00:03:57who is an angry uncle and who isn't? The Prime Minister
00:04:01called them angry uncles, you have to understand that. I won't
00:04:04explain it in too much detail here. What happens
00:04:07is that since 2014, the Bharatiya Janata Party has been gaining
00:04:11people's support in the name of Modi ji.
00:04:14of India in People are having full confidence in the leadership of
00:04:17Prime Minister. So, those who repeatedly support
00:04:20Modi ji and form the BJP-NDA,
00:04:24the other parties are losing. So, how
00:04:28is their loss responsible? People didn't
00:04:32vote for them. So, they are losing elections. And when they lose
00:04:35elections, they always get angry,
00:04:37derail this, hurl abuses, create a ruckus
00:04:40in Parliament, then speak against the country.
00:04:43So, this angry person sitting there,
00:04:47he has been given a description.
00:04:49You also know very well who an angry uncle is in
00:04:53Indian tradition. Tell me, some people were very upset
00:04:56with your swimming too. They were challenging.
00:05:00technique, first let's see what it is that you really set the cat among the
00:05:03pigeons, when you put picture of yourself swimming a video of
00:05:07yourself swimming, pehle aap ye bataye, have we settled this debate, who is better
00:05:11swimmer? is it?
00:06:40got angry. They said that Kiran Rijiju
00:06:44is swimming, copying Rahul Gandhi.
00:06:47They say, "Rahul Gandhi
00:06:51ji had not even seen a river when I had become a player."
00:07:17I don't swim after taking training. So the Congress
00:07:20started trolling. Secondly, they said that Kiran Rijiju
00:07:24does not know the technique of swimming. His technique
00:07:27is not right. He doesn't know how to swim.
00:07:50that we haven't taken any training. Rahul Gandhi ji
00:07:53was born with a silver
00:07:57spoon, so he gets training for everything. Where will we
00:08:00get training? We were born in the jungle and mountains. We are
00:08:04original people. We don't need training.
00:08:07I objected a little because a spokesperson of Congress
00:08:11said that Kiran
00:08:15Rijiju has swum half-naked. So I said, "Do
00:08:18you swim in a suit and boots?" Just think about their
00:08:22thinking. Later I said, "Okay,
00:08:26it's the Congress party. They are very angry,
00:08:30so they couldn't even accept my
00:08:38is going to stick to you 'cause you had said, "I am the biggest
00:08:41player here."
00:09:43so they become emotional. Emotional.
00:09:46So
00:09:48if they don't get attention from Delhi, they become
00:09:52disheartened. I was Minister of State for Home Affairs for
00:09:56five years from 2014 to
00:09:582019. Before me,
00:10:01the
00:10:04groups of involved in
00:10:07militancy, how did they go into
00:10:10jungle? A small
00:10:25there was no one to listen to in Delhi. Suppose there is a community
00:10:29of 50,000 people. Their representatives came to Delhi.
00:10:32They are waiting in Delhi for weeks and weeks. Nobody in
00:10:35the Home Ministry or Government of India is giving time. Even a Joint
00:10:39Secretary thinks, "Oh, a small community has come.
00:10:43I don't have time. I am a Secretary of the Government of India, a Joint Secretary."
00:10:46They don't give time. They wait and wait,
00:10:50get disheartened, and after a month, no one listens to them in Delhi.
00:10:53They go back and emotionally pick up a gun,
00:10:56throw bombs, thinking that with guns
00:11:00and bombs, they might listen.
00:11:03In this way, militancy increased so much in the Northeast,
00:11:06so much militancy came that it started affecting
00:11:10the growth of the Northeast. Peace
00:11:13will bring prosperity. But there was no
00:11:17peace. So, no one was listening. So, we started listening.
00:11:21Even if one person came to me, I would meet them.
00:11:26Let me tell you for the record, some militant
00:11:29groups of a community went into the jungle with guns to train.
00:11:33Later, talks happened. We had a ceasefire. I met
00:11:37them, and they surrendered. In the last 12 years,
00:11:41more than 1000 people from the Northeast
00:11:45who were involved in militancy have surrendered with
00:11:48their weapons. So, this is not a small
00:11:51achievement. In Manipur,
00:11:56the unfortunate ethnic clashes
00:11:59that happened between Meitei-Kuki
00:12:03and Naga-Kuki, have been a setback for me. I am also pained
00:12:06because, unfortunately, due to misunderstandings
00:12:10among themselves, there are many reasons. There is no time to mention
00:12:14them here now. Leaving Manipur aside,
00:12:17the rest of the Northeast has become militant-free.
00:12:21Just think, earlier, every 10 kilometers,
00:12:25there would be gunshots and sounds of bullets.
00:12:28Today, there is peace. So
00:12:31this emotional connection that the PM made,
00:12:34as I mentioned earlier, we built roads, electricity, water, airports,
00:12:38and railways. That is hard infrastructure.
00:12:41Connecting hearts is also equally important. So the Prime Minister
00:12:44said, "The Ashtalakshmi, the
00:12:48eight states being described as Ashtalakshmi, we
00:12:52must reach out to them. Why should they only come to
00:12:55Delhi? Every month, 15
00:12:58ministers, five cabinet ministers and 10 ministers of
00:13:01states are bound to go to
00:13:05Northeast. It's a must." Prime Minister
00:13:08has issued a directive that all ministers
00:13:11must go and not just come and go.
00:13:15They must stay in distant
00:13:18districts. So, this work of connecting hearts
00:13:21has brought them very close. is going to be completely
00:13:55transformed. Our
00:13:59Northeast youth will not require
00:14:02to struggle for basic things. We will ensure
00:14:06that every Northeastern region part,
00:14:09every state is as
00:14:12vibrant as any progressive state in the country. You know, you spoke of
00:14:16ministers going to the Northeast. I want to actually show on video. I am the biggest player,
00:14:20but there is another player
00:14:23who... Who is the other player? Yes, we will show you the video of that
00:14:27player. Now I don't think you are a bigger player
00:14:31than him. What do you think? Who is the bigger
00:14:35player? Now he is my boss.
00:14:57This is yours,
00:15:14that's the Prime Minister in Sikkim and he
00:15:17scored a goal too. Tell me, who is the bigger player?
00:15:20Look, everyone already knows about the Prime Minister.
00:15:23seen a person
00:15:27so disciplined in life, so focused and fit as
00:15:31Modi ji. When I was Minister for Youth Affairs and
00:15:34Sports, Prime Minister told me, "Ji,
00:15:38the 'Khelo India' that is going on, we started 'Khelo India',
00:15:42the 'Khelo India' that is going on is for players.
00:15:45Now, all Indians need to be made fit.
00:15:49Every Indian must be fit. If you are
00:15:52fit, you can make your country fit and fine." So,
00:15:56then that 'Fit India' movement started. I thought
00:16:00about the Prime Minister. He wants the fitness
00:16:03culture to prevail all around. So, the best thing would
00:16:06be 'Fit India'.
00:16:54Vajpayee ji. I was very young,
00:16:57very immature, but I contested the election
00:17:01and lost. Nobody in the Northeast even knew
00:17:05the BJP at that time, and no one
00:17:08voted for it. I have seen the BJP very closely.
00:17:11It is a nationalist party. If this party comes to power,
00:17:15it will take care of our border areas and the people in remote
00:17:18areas. India First, there would be some enthusiasm.
00:17:21We had no hope from Congress.
00:17:24So we joined BJP. But I lost
00:17:27the election. After losing the election,
00:17:31I went to Atal Bihari Vajpayee ji. I was very sad.
00:17:35"Atal ji, I have lost the election. What should I do?"
00:17:38Ram Naik ji was sitting with us, who was the Petroleum
00:17:42Minister and later became the Governor
00:17:45of UP. So as soon as I said, "Atal ji, I have lost the election, what
00:17:48should I do?" Immediately, Ram Naik ji
00:17:51said, "Hey Kiran, don't worry. Atal ji also lost his first
00:17:55election." Then Atal ji said, "If Ram Naik
00:17:59ji had his way, should everyone lose their first election?" So
00:18:02then he brought me into the commission, gave me a chance to
00:18:06work. I was the National Secretary of the party, but I
00:18:10worked in the commission for five years. But in 2004, I
00:18:14worked with full preparation. People
00:18:17then voted in large numbers
00:18:20and made me a Member of Parliament at a very young age.
00:18:23And the way I worked, you were probably
00:18:27there at that time, I don't remember.
00:18:30In 2008, there was a conclave
00:18:33of the entire media. There was a voting among the media
00:18:38on who is the best young Member of Parliament. So I
00:18:42am happy to tell you that I was given the award for the best young
00:18:45Parliamentarian. I was
00:18:48very active. I was
00:18:51active because it was necessary
00:18:54and I consider it a duty.
00:18:57Our state, Arunachal Pradesh, is a very big
00:19:01state. The population is less, so there are two MPs.
00:19:05I used to think that one
00:19:37have started saying that decisions will not be made in Parliament, but on the
00:19:40streets. What will you say? People say, "Enough is enough, now the public will decide
00:19:44on the streets." The anarchists
00:19:47think all this. They think that even if we lose
00:19:51the election, I will decide on the street what the law of the country should be. So,
00:19:54what is the meaning of democracy? The
00:19:57basic tenets of democracy is every citizen rule
00:20:01themselves through elected representatives. The
00:20:04electoral college is defined. We
00:20:37very serious note,
00:20:41there are many civilizations in the world, Chinese civilization,
00:20:45Japanese, Indian civilizations,
00:20:47Europe.
00:20:50So, have you ever heard of Gen Z or Western
00:20:54concepts in China? Why only in India?
00:20:57Because basically our
00:21:01knowledge is English
00:21:03fate, British common law, English common
00:21:07law, American influence is quite strong. So, those
00:21:10who are more active on social media, they have a kind
00:21:14of Western concept. Our concept is that we call
00:21:18youth.
00:21:50do for America. That's why it became a superpower.
00:21:53That country.
00:21:56We demand so much, "What is the government doing for me and
00:21:59the country?" Ask what I am doing for the country.
00:22:03When both happen, in the Constitution,
00:22:06fundamental rights
00:22:08is extremely important, which can not be
00:22:12compromised. But fundamental duty is also equally
00:22:15important. But they are saying that even to ask these question is our duty.
00:22:18"The government is not listening to us. We are not listening. Now we will listen on the streets."
00:22:22That can't happen. We are children, we will explain nicely.
00:23:33that is currently going on, the bill could not be passed in the Lok Sabha. But Sir, a state like Bihar has 40 Lok Sabha seats.
00:23:37And Sir, if we compare it with Tamil Nadu, it also has
00:23:4040 seats. But Sir, when delimitation happens, I am reading the
00:23:44newspaper, there will be almost 850 seats. So Sir,
00:23:47the benefit that Bihar will get from an increase
00:23:51in Lok Sabha seats, Sir, the Southern states will not get the same
00:23:55benefit. So no, Sir, it won't be that much. So Sir, what measures is the government
00:23:58taking so that the Southern states are not disproportionately affected
00:24:15is that whatever steps the government takes, it should not
00:24:19disproportionately affect the southern states. Let me correct you a bit. Your information
00:24:45there are 543 Lok Sabha seats. Currently,
00:24:49in the Lok Sabha, we will increase
00:24:52it by 50%. When we increase
00:24:55it by 50%, how can it mean that Tamil Nadu will get less and
00:24:59Bihar will get more? Bihar has 40 seats.
00:25:02Tamil Nadu has 39, not 40. Tamil Nadu has
00:25:0539. And when it increases
00:25:09by 50%, 40 will become 60.
00:25:12Obviously, it's a simple calculation.
00:25:16UP currently has 80 seats, so it will become 120.
00:25:20The one with two seats will become three. It's a simple
00:25:22arithmetic. Politically,
00:25:25to
00:25:27some people have spread false
00:25:31propaganda. But later it became clear. Now, almost
00:25:34all the parties that voted against it, everyone said
00:25:38that no, no, the Congress party spread a lot of lies. Now it's clear. Most
00:25:42people will now support it when the bill is brought next time. So
00:25:45that's why we don't want to harm
00:25:49any state, and we won't.
00:25:52What is the fundamental point?
00:25:55The electoral system is all about proportionate
00:25:58representation. One person, one vote. Isn't
00:26:02that the fundamental principle in democracy?
00:26:06That if you are a millionaire of 10 crores, you won't
00:26:09get two votes. A billionaire also has one vote,
00:26:12a common man also has one vote. So
00:26:16just think, in some states,
00:26:18one MLA constituency has 4 lakh
00:26:22voters. In some, like Lakshadweep, there is one MP
00:26:25with 53 votes. So there is
00:26:29also a difference geographically. Thirdly,
00:27:32they will go around 816 or 820. That's natural. We are
00:27:36the most populous nation on the Earth. That much is expected. Sir, is this
00:27:39going to happen soon? Because there are many conspiracy theories that it hasn't been
00:27:42prorogued yet, so they will bring it now, they will bring it now. Who knows when Rijiju ji
00:27:46will secretly bring this bill without telling us. No, if
00:27:50I tell you now, there will be a huge ruckus today. I can't
00:27:54say, but a ruckus happens in Parliament. No, it wasn't prorogued because sometimes
00:27:57it has happened before, this is not the first time. When we end Parliament,
00:28:01we sign for adjournment indefinitely.
00:28:04But now we haven't
00:28:07prorogued it, so this is not the first time. Whenever
00:28:11they want, they can call Parliament. Will they call it soon?
00:28:14We won't say, but there is a provision to call it.
00:28:18It's not like they are waiting for a number. No, I won't go that deep
00:28:22because it's after the rule. So there is a provision to call. Sir, tell me
00:28:26that you know, whenever we have analyzed the numbers, and now
00:28:29suddenly everybody is talking about this Gen Z vote. But I remember
00:28:33my was something that we tracked in elections throughout, and
00:28:36even in the 2014 elections, I remember postponed analysis found that a
00:28:40large number of youth, especially skilled and educated youth was
00:28:43voting for the BJP. Why is that? What do you think are the
00:28:47factors that work there? And has that changed on the ground now after all
00:28:51these protests and Jantar Mantar up-rising that? See, the aspiration of the youth has
00:28:54increased tremendously. Social media
00:28:58started tricking down around
00:29:012008, 9, 10 in Facebook
00:29:04and slowly then Twitter came, then Instagram and
00:29:07all. When we came to power, when Modi ji became Prime
00:29:11Minister, the social media started at large
00:29:14scale. So the aspiration of the youth have
00:29:17risen. So the youth of that time,
00:29:21which could not gain enough
00:29:23of opportunity for themselves, they thought, we need a new
00:29:26leader. India could not become a developed nation in last 70
00:29:30years. The reality.
00:29:33In 1947,
00:29:35we gained independence. We didn't become rich, did we? What difference does it make what I or
00:29:38you say? India is not a rich country. India is not a developed country.
00:29:42This is a reality. Who will make India a rich,
00:29:46powerful country? We didn't even have a goal,
00:29:50there was no set target when India would become rich,
00:29:53powerful, and developed.
00:29:56So people started thinking, especially the youth, that "your
00:30:00life is over, old people." Now India
00:30:03could not become a rich nation. In our lifetime, India must
00:30:07be rich, powerful, and prosperous. They decided
00:30:10that it could only happen under Modi ji's
00:30:13leadership. That is how, that is how the youth
00:30:17a
00:30:19massive scale voted for Modi ji and he created
00:30:23a record and then after 2014, the
00:30:27target was set 2047,
00:30:30India will be a developed nation and and then so many
00:30:33steps are taken on the way, one by one, one
00:30:37after another. So that is how I feel the youth are feeling
00:30:41that if they have to realize their
00:30:44dreams, then they need a visionary statesman, a
00:30:47great leader like Modi ji to continue to lead us. And that
00:30:51is true. Today India is the fastest growing economy in the world. Do you think we used to cry
00:30:54at that time that India's economic growth was so far behind?