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00:00:16Hello and welcome to Pakistan TV with the news of this hour, I'm Sanyana
00:00:20of Bukhari, let's have look at the
00:00:21headlines.
00:00:38Security forces kill
00:00:39of eight Indians sponsored Kavarage and Hangu
00:00:42a operation, two officers and four soldiers embraced a harther during
00:00:46intense fire
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00:00:51a World leaders gathered in New York this
00:00:55week for the UN general assembly to discuss the middle east war, Russia Ukraine
00:00:58conflict after. intelligence and other major global issues on the
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00:01:10Pakistan's
00:01:11of un envoy assim says Pakistan will use the UNGA
00:01:15higher level week to highlight its constructive role in promoting regional peace and
00:01:18stability, advancing international cooperation and addressing global
00:01:22development, economic climate and security
00:01:25challenges.
00:01:33on the occasion of international day of peace, president Asif Ali
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00:01:38Minister Mohammad Shahbaz Sharif highlight Pakistan's constructive role in advancing
00:01:42regional and international peace and its consistent efforts towards resolving
00:01:45conflicts,
00:01:47in deescalation, tensions and promoting
00:01:49a dialogue and global
00:01:50peace.
00:01:57CIA director John Rutle meets Egyptian. President
00:02:00LCC in Kairo to discuss regional conflicts, cul threats and
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00:02:11deves the storming of Israel's national security minister
00:02:15and settlers describing the incident as a violation of international law and a
00:02:19provocation of two
00:02:20of muslims
00:02:21worldwide.
00:02:28russia was
00:02:31of of intensified on keep in response to wave of Ukrainian drone attacks on Moscow during Russia's
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00:03:11Now the news in details: security forces killed eight indian sponsored
00:03:15fitnal khawarij during intense exchange of
00:03:17of fire in Hangu district. During the operation, Captain Abuzar
00:03:21Faruk, Litton Shiraz Baber lead their troops from the
00:03:25front and embrace shahadat along with four other soldiers while
00:03:29fighting the K sanitization operation
00:03:32continues in the area to
00:03:34of eliminate any remaining indian sponsor khavarage operation is part
00:03:37of the ongoing counter terrorism campaign under azme istihkam
00:03:41approved by the federal epic committee and the national action
00:03:44plan. prime minister mohammad shahbas sharif and
00:03:47presidentari paid tribute to the security forces for
00:03:51eliminating a terrorists and honor the sacrifices
00:03:54of the six personal whom raised shahadat. meanwile defense
00:03:57minister said for f Five decades, Pakistan has provided
00:04:01refutes to AfCF citizens, sharing its limited resources with them
00:04:05and extending humanitarian support during some
00:04:11me of the most difficult periods in Afghanistan's history. Following the withdrawal of NATO forces from Afghanistan, Pakistan expressed its good
00:04:15wishes and hope that the end
00:04:17of the foreign military presence would pay
00:04:19a the in way of for a more secure border and peaceful relations between the
00:04:23two neighboring countries. However, Pakistan continues to face serious
00:04:27security challenges, Pakistani authorities have. repeatedly raised
00:04:31concerns about militant attacks originating from Afghanistan
00:04:35including attacks targeting mosks, schools, marketplaces and
00:04:38security
00:04:42in a forces.
00:04:47World leaders gather in New York this speak for the UN general assembly with the middle
00:04:51east war, Ukraine and artificial intelligence among key issues on
00:04:55the agenda.
00:04:56of Nearly 1:30 heads of state are expected to attend as the United Nations.
00:05:00is financial pressures and questions over its role in global crisis.
00:05:04his president Donald Trump has said to address the assembly for second
00:05:07of executive year China's president Shijing Ping will skip the UN gathering and
00:05:11instead beat Trump and boshing. Iranian
00:05:13president scheduled to address the assembly on Wednesday while
00:05:17Ukraine's presidentsky and Russia's foreign minister
00:05:21Sergey Lavrop are also due to speak. The future the un
00:05:25secretary general post is also under discussion as Antonious
00:05:28turned and this
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00:05:36Pakistan will highlight its commitment to the United Nations
00:05:39multilateralism and peaceful conflict resolution. to the 81st un
00:05:43general assembly with Prime Minister Mohammad Shaz Sharif leading Pakistan's
00:05:47delegation in New York from September the 21st to 25th.
00:05:50Pakistan's permanent
00:05:51representative Ahmed
00:05:55stated that the prime minister will address the general assembly
00:05:59on September the 25th and represent Pakistan's
00:06:03perspective on the evolving regional and global security environment stressing
00:06:07dialogue diplomacy restraint and peaceful settlement of disputes the
00:06:11prime minister will also h Pakistan's diplomatic efforts to prevent
00:06:14escalation and promote regional peace while outlining priorities
00:06:18including sustainable development, climate change, counter terrorism,
00:06:22islamophobia, clearable economic challenges, un reform and the
00:06:26sustainable development goals. He will draw attention to the
00:06:29situations in Palestine and Indian illegally occupied Jammu and
00:06:33Kashmir, emphasizing the right to self determination and
00:06:36implementation of relevant security council resolutions. During the
00:06:40high level week the prime minister will participate in events on development,
00:06:44climate action and other key issues and held bilateral meetings with world
00:06:48leaders and the UN secretary general. deputy prime minister
00:06:52and foreign minister sagda accompanied by other senior officials will
00:06:56pursue separate bilateral and multilateral engagements and participate a
00:07:00high level UN security council meeting on artificial intelligence
00:07:03to be chaired by France minister
00:07:06on 23rd of september. ambassador said pakistan will
00:07:09use the general assembly's high level week to underline its constructive roll in
00:07:13promoting regional peace and stability and advancing international
00:07:16cooperation, he said pakistan will emphasize on diplomacy
00:07:20over confrontation, cooperation over division and
00:07:24collective action to address label development, economic climate and
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00:07:28challenges.
00:07:40well that is all from the news presentation the now stay tuned into Pakistan TV for more
00:07:44news and
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00:08:34episode of unfold in the first segment we will be talking about
00:08:37Pakistan's counter terrorism strategy and
00:08:41also keeping in. view the latest
00:08:44interview by DGPR Liftenant General Ahmed
00:08:48Sharif Chaudhary with Al Arabia English in which he has
00:08:51categorically talked about no dialogue with the
00:08:55terrorists however there could be engagement with
00:08:59Afghanistan but Pakistan's demand is clear and
00:09:02concrete that the Afghan soil shouldn't be used for the
00:09:06terrorist purposes against Pakistan. In the second segment
00:09:10there is another interesting topic President. Donald Trump says that the US
00:09:14has reached an agreement with Denmark and Greenland giving
00:09:18Washington permanent control of Greenland
00:09:21security and all other needs. What
00:09:25does that exactly signif at this particular point in time? Given the
00:09:29fact the multiple crises which are unfolding as we
00:09:32speak around the globe. Would this particular
00:09:36agreement between the United States of America and
00:09:40Denmark approved to be a fresh breath of
00:09:44air, that would be the topic for the second segment of today's
00:09:50we know for fact Pakistan has witnessed resurgence of terrorism
00:09:54ever since the Afghan Taliban took over took over
00:09:58control in Kabul back in 2021. they have
00:10:01ruled that warwareged country for more than five years
00:10:05now. they had the commitment in the form the doha
00:10:09peace accord that they won't allow the Afghan to be used
00:10:13against any other country, but we have seen over the last five
00:10:16years Afghanistan soil has become a safe
00:10:20heaven for the militant organizations and terrorist outfits
00:10:24perpetating. heinous acts of terrorism against the regional countries,
00:10:28most particularly when we talk about Pakistan. On
00:10:32number of occasions, Pakistan has shared irrefutable
00:10:35evidence the involvement of Afghan nationals in Heinous acts
00:10:39of terrorism here in Pakistan, but there has been a
00:10:43pattern of denial on the part the Afghan defactor
00:10:46authorities, and sometimes they just give
00:10:50the verbal assurances, but at the same time we
00:10:54will be talking about those important points during an
00:10:58interview by DGIISPR Liftenant General Ahmad Sharif Chaudhari
00:11:01to
00:11:02Al Arabia English in which he has categorically ruled out any
00:11:06sort of negotiation or dialogue with any
00:11:09terrorist network however he says the
00:11:12engagement with Afghanistan can be done but Pakistan has
00:11:16clear and a concrete demand that
00:11:19Afghanistan soil should not be used for the
00:11:22terrorist purposes and Taliban should be upholding their
00:11:26international commitment under the doha
00:11:30accord, at the same time he is also alluded to
00:11:34fact that 80% the Afghan nationals are
00:11:37involved in the suicide bombings that have happened here in
00:11:41Pakistan. Referring to Balochistan, he has said there is no
00:11:45public support support for those terrorist groups who
00:11:49are operating or trying to bring
00:11:52instability inside Boloche. Pakistan, there is also
00:11:56factor of external sponsorship, and he has also
00:12:00referred to India in that particular regard. We know for fact, there
00:12:04is a track record of India when it comes
00:12:07to the export of state
00:12:10sponsored terrorism. These important aspects of
00:12:14discussion, for that we are honored to being joined by Mr. Retired Sied
00:12:18Khan is the defense analyst. Mr. Air Marshall Said Khan, thank you very much for your
00:12:22time for being with us on unfold tonight, really appreciate that. Also
00:12:25at the same time we are honored to being joined by Mr. Bugadia, retired
00:12:29Haris Nawaz, he is defense analyst. Bigedia Navas, thank you very much for your time
00:12:33also for being with us on the show tonight to really appreciate that.
00:12:37Let's begin the discussion with you a Marshal Saied Khan,
00:12:41when we specifically talk about Pakistan's
00:12:44fight against terrorism, now Pakistan is
00:12:48exercised strategic restraint urging upon the Afghan
00:12:52defactor authorities to take some sort of a concrete.
00:12:55action against the militant outfits operating from
00:12:58Afghanistan soil, now looking at
00:13:02this particular warning that they should be upholding the international commitment as
00:13:06per the doha accord, or do you see any sort of a
00:13:10shift when it comes to Pakistan's current or emerging policy
00:13:14towards Afghanistan from strategic restraint,
00:13:17engagement, towards more assertive
00:13:21security
00:13:35to look
00:13:36you know at the present relationship between Pakistan and
00:13:39Afghanistan, I think we'll have to go five years back when in
00:13:422021 the Americans left Afghanistan
00:13:46and the present regime took over the
00:13:50reins in Afghanistan, the country which
00:13:53came for. forward to help
00:13:56them was Pakistan and before that
00:14:00also we had actually uh given shelter,
00:14:04protection and a home to all these leaders who are
00:14:08presently in Afghanistan in Pakistan, their children are still
00:14:12studying in our schools and colleges and their wives are still
00:14:16here with us in Pakistan, so Pakistan played
00:14:20the role of a Muslim brother and elder
00:14:23brother for. more than three decades
00:14:26now, but
00:14:28unfortunately
00:14:30you know our eastern neighbor India after filling
00:14:34twice to in 2019 and
00:14:372025 by you know
00:14:40inflicting any damage on Pakistan a
00:14:44non-conventional skirmish, they have
00:14:47now started spending lot of
00:14:50money on the outfits that are
00:14:54there and Afghanistan and our grivance
00:14:58with the present government in Afghanistan is only one
00:15:02that we request them diplomatically to our friends and
00:15:05ourselves also that please control these outfits
00:15:09and they should not interfere or send their parties
00:15:13to Pakistan to
00:15:16create destabilization, but the amount of
00:15:20money being spent by India and Israel is so much
00:15:24that off late the Afghan government has started looking the
00:15:28other way around. I'll just give you figure. In
00:15:302025 and 26, there has been a
00:15:34search of more than 100%.
00:15:37sent in the casualties in the last three
00:15:40years Jaward Pakistan has lost more
00:15:44than 5ive00 civilians and our
00:15:48soldiers which is very big number for any country to
00:15:52lose and this spike speecially came more in
00:15:552026 and that is why in February
00:15:5826 Pakistan declared an open war against
00:16:02Afghanistan and then we asked our air force to
00:16:06carry out where very accurate strikes
00:16:10in the month of February, March and
00:16:12August, and that is why we now see that
00:16:16the number the incidents that are happening
00:16:20now has taken a downward trend, but unfortunately
00:16:24just two days ago we had that incident in
00:16:27Kohat where Mulla
00:16:31Gul Bahadur's you know faction has
00:16:35now accepted that they were responsible for that
00:16:38blast, so this was very unfortunate incident in which we
00:16:42lost nearly 31 of our civilians and
00:16:45policeman, so unfortunately the
00:16:49solution Pakistan is heading towards is the only one,
00:16:52one diplomatically we are still engaging with them through
00:16:56our friends in Qatar, in China
00:16:59and in Turkey, and that is why
00:17:03Jaward, you saw that in the previous week the uh
00:17:08intelligence chiefs of turkey and Qatar were there in
00:17:11Afghanistan and then they visited us in Pakistan and when they were
00:17:15visiting us this incident of Guhat
00:17:19happened so unfortunately you
00:17:22know the Afghan government did not even respect you know the
00:17:26interlocutors and moderators who are our brothers and
00:17:30they carried out this activity when they were here as our
00:17:33guests but I think the second one is
00:17:37what you know, I would propose at this time. I
00:17:40think enough of diplomacy, enough of talking, enough of
00:17:44being a good brother, it is now time to have
00:17:48no, no man zone between Afghanistan
00:17:52and Pakistan. It can be five kilometers as you
00:17:56know proposed earlier, I would say 15 would be
00:18:00very comfortable now, and we should have that
00:18:03buffer zone between the two countries and anyone who comes should be.
00:18:07as an enemy and should be taken out, we
00:18:11should continue to remain a heart state, yes, we have lost billions of
00:18:15dollars of trade with Afghanistan, but it is okay at
00:18:19the cost of our security and for
00:18:23the precious lives that are people
00:18:26hold, this is
00:18:27not a big loss, 6 billion dollars is not a loss for
00:18:31which we should be so right right, the very important point
00:18:35i like to take this: very point to brigadier Haris was
00:18:39brigadier Haris was when we talk about the buffer zone um
00:18:43now as air marshall said khan is referred to there is
00:18:46suggestion regarding five kilometers what he
00:18:49has given his understanding regarding that is around
00:18:5315 kilomes what's your understanding how is it doable we
00:18:57know for fact that Pakistan went into a gigantic
00:19:01exercise of
00:19:02you know of that border fencing also but
00:19:06despite that we we saw we saw there were number of
00:19:09instances that from other side the border that
00:19:13the militants tried to uproot that fencing as well, what
00:19:17about this buffer zone, what would it take to make it
00:19:20workable? what i personally feel whatever air
00:19:24mar said, think it is plausible and possible also
00:19:28and buffer zone we have already laid down proper fencing
00:19:31over 2600 kilometers of
00:19:35fencing and very effective fencing. the problem is they don't
00:19:38accept it and we can go for five to 10 kilometer definitely
00:19:42it is possible but it has to be coordinated with our friends
00:19:46and also with the but let tell you more important
00:19:50is that in dha agreement when americans
00:19:53and over there they had agreed on
00:19:57four points number one
00:20:01was that whatever american i going to
00:20:05release tariban from the prisons. they will never
00:20:08carry the but they did other way around. number
00:20:12two, they agreed, it was decided that taliban will
00:20:16go and carry out negotiation with the one
00:20:19government asmani and then they will take over, but they went
00:20:23and forcefully. number three three was they will not
00:20:27support any cross border terrorism, they will not allow cross
00:20:30terrorism, the neighboring country, they never responded for that
00:20:34also, and last was very important that within six months.
00:20:38they will have a general election prepare and
00:20:42transparent and a one people will select the government the choice,
00:20:46it should be politically inclusive ethnic balance.
00:20:50and then I think they will develop the friendly relationship with our friendlation country
00:20:54word, they don't have diplom
00:20:55relations and of course they good
00:20:59relation so all four they have not
00:21:02done it, the most
00:21:06important thing is it was not decided there if they don't accept and
00:21:09don't agree and the they rule out these thing then what penalty they
00:21:13will even today
00:21:17Americans are giving 30 million dollars. per
00:21:20week to Afghan taliban regimes
00:21:24without any check and balance, they left 7.2
00:21:28billion weapons ammunition, latest american weapon
00:21:31ammunition unattended, they left in Afghanistan
00:21:35so that it should fall into the band of all terrorist organizations
00:21:39and obviously it should be used then of course for terrorism in
00:21:43central Asia, China and Pakistan, so these are the realities you must
00:21:47understand and that's so now Pakistan is the only. country
00:21:50confronting fighting terrorism against
00:21:54p hindustan then you talk
00:21:58about this is kharasan group and so many
00:22:01other organization and then nobody in the world has
00:22:05paid any attention we have
00:22:08seen nations reports we have seen united nations report we
00:22:12have seen security council report we seen russian report seen
00:22:16everybody said 24 tax organization
00:22:25is the executive
00:22:48with you, let me once again proceed to Air Marshall Said Khan. Air
00:22:52Marshall, there is maximum that is pertain to law, justice should not
00:22:56only be done but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be
00:22:59done. Now when it comes to Pakistan's demand from the defacto authorities
00:23:03in Afghanistan, keeping this particular
00:23:06maximum, Pakistan wants the concrete action on the part the
00:23:10defacto authorities as per their commitment under the Doha Peace
00:23:14Accord, so in what forms
00:23:18that particular upholding. commitment on the part
00:23:21the Afghan Taliban could be seen manifestly and
00:23:25undoubtedly?
00:23:28Jaward, only
00:23:32one thing is enough to show that the government of
00:23:35Afghanistan is involved in ensuring
00:23:38that you know the nefarious elements from
00:23:42Afghanistan come into Pakistan. Of late,
00:23:45in this year only we have killed more than 400.
00:23:50terrorists on our soil and out them more than
00:23:53326 terrorists were afghan
00:23:56nationals, now if they were not Afghan nationals, we
00:24:00could have said that
00:24:01it is an internal issue and like the
00:24:04Afghan spokes person, official
00:24:08spokesperson zabiullah mujahid, he always keeps
00:24:11saying that you know TTP is an internal
00:24:15issue of Pakistan and the Pakistanis must handle it within Pakistan.
00:24:20"you know, if it was, we would have not requested our
00:24:24friends, especially Qatar and Turkey to
00:24:27come, send their top,
00:24:29you know, intelligence people to Afghanistan, because
00:24:33the these top people went to Afghanistan with the evidence that was
00:24:37provided by Pakistan, and they were convinced
00:24:41that yes it is the Afghanies who are you
00:24:44know closing eyes to the infiltrators who are using
00:24:48their land to..." for nefarious activities against
00:24:51Pakistan, now once they went, they showed that evidence, I
00:24:55seek your pardon for the
00:25:00to it as well, regarding their denial that when they say
00:25:03that it's perhaps Pakistan's internal issue dealing with ban TTP, the
00:25:07fitnah, there is report by the UN analytical
00:25:11support and sanction monitoring team that says that
00:25:15Taliban have tried to relocate around
00:25:1820 of those militants belonging to
00:25:21TTP further away from Pakistan's borders, so
00:25:25if they are present over there on Afghanistan soil,
00:25:29hence they are relocating them farther away from that, that a
00:25:33way also proves the presence of TTP
00:25:36militant members over there on Afghanistan soil, please go
00:25:39ahead. I fully agree with you,
00:25:42Jaward, the United Nations Committee
00:25:46very plainly even mentioned the number of '
00:25:50terrorists over there in Afghanistan and they say that more than
00:25:5420000 from different factions are taking refuge
00:25:58on the soil of Afghanistan. Actually, Jaward, we
00:26:02need to understand. and that this present government has
00:26:05failed completely to provide any type
00:26:08of you know any type of relief to the people of
00:26:12Afghanistan and as such they have made you
00:26:15know this destabilization in various
00:26:19countries as source of earning money. we
00:26:23Pakistan is the not is not the only country which is facing
00:26:27destabilization from Afghanistan. China is facing
00:26:30it, Tajikistan is facing. facing it, Uzbekistan is
00:26:34facing it, so all those countries that neighbor
00:26:38Afghanistan, they are the countries who are affected by the factions
00:26:42that are over there, and that is why Jabad, I would
00:26:46again like to say that you know enough of talking now, it
00:26:49is now time to wage a war against Afghanistan,
00:26:53if you look, if you listen to Zabiullah Mujahid's interview just
00:26:57two days back to the same you know anchor
00:27:00who took the... interview of DG
00:27:03ISPR,
00:27:05you know, he was very,
00:27:07you know, apologetic, he knew that the world is
00:27:11not now listening to their point of view, and the world is
00:27:15pretty convinced that it is the Afghan government that is
00:27:19taking money for all these defarious activities,
00:27:23so he was trying to you know sugar coat everything that was happening
00:27:26and trying to put the blame on Pakistan, but that is why I'm
00:27:30saying it is now time, to you know finish this sweet
00:27:34talking, finish being the big brother, we must
00:27:37decide on the durant line, we must decide on the buffer
00:27:41zone, and if the afghan government does not listen, we
00:27:45should fight for peace, exactly, that is exactly
00:27:49the point, i would like to take it to brigadier nawaz also, brigadier
00:27:53nawaz, said khan is very clear when it
00:27:57comes to, he said enough of talking with the defacto authorities in
00:28:01Afghanistan, it's time to take a concrete action, go
00:28:05kinetic and
00:28:06you know get our task done when it comes
00:28:09to uprooting this particular scurge and the menas of terrorism is
00:28:13concerned. let me refer back to that particular statement by
00:28:17DGIISPR himself that if the Afghan
00:28:20Taliban don't uphold their international commitment as per the doha
00:28:24peace accord in case of that failure Pakistan
00:28:28has the right to self-defend. Could you give us an understand?
00:28:33we we know for fact that with precision strikes Pakistan has already
00:28:36done um in this particular year, what
00:28:39exactly more is required on that particular
00:28:42front?
00:28:51this question is for you, when it comes to Pakistan's right to self
00:28:55defend, how it could be done
00:28:59more when we see the precision strikes already happening against the...
00:29:02terrorist targets in
00:29:04Afghanistan,
00:29:16coming back to you, Marshall, what's your understanding? you're the
00:29:20view, enough of talking when we talk about the right to self
00:29:23defend under international law, what else
00:29:27needs to be done more on this particular front? we've seen a number of
00:29:31precision strike. already carried out by
00:29:33Pakistan,
00:29:37Jaward, I think the modern warfare has
00:29:40shown to the world now that only air power
00:29:44alone can not make you win the war, it can make you win the
00:29:48war 90%, but for the rest 10% you have to put the
00:29:51boots on ground, right? we have seen that
00:29:54in Iran recently, we have seen
00:29:58that in Afghanistan for the last 25 years and
00:30:01we have seen this happening now between Hothis and
00:30:05Saudi Arabia, air power itself alone
00:30:08cannot you know win a war, it
00:30:11can
00:30:13you know severely damage the enemy or
00:30:16severely reduce its capabilities, but at the end
00:30:20the day the conflict can only be one by putting boots on
00:30:24ground, so I suggest that you know Pakistan air force
00:30:28has lot of capability, we have very good intelligence in Afghanistan about
00:30:33the terrorist hide out camps and from where the taskils are made and sent
00:30:37to Pakistan, we must take our friends in the
00:30:41region and internationally into confidence
00:30:45and we must
00:30:46you know start sablits creek