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00:01:56Welcome everyone, of a damming report has just come
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00:02:07officials to downplay
00:02:08in the price tag of this imposed war carried out with the
00:02:11a Israeli regime. The defense department's inspector general's report says the
00:02:15conflict is resulted
00:02:16in a shortfall of US munitions and bottlenecks and supply
00:02:20chains as a Trump administration races against time to replenish
00:02:23weaponry. Now this while war secretary Pete Hexith has denied
00:02:27reports the US is running low on munitions. and the report says the
00:02:31of war is cost roughly $33.4 billion dollars, which does
00:02:34in not account for repairing damaged facilities, yet
00:02:37in a July back
00:02:38in a back in July and NBS news reported that the war had so
00:02:42far cost 80 to 100 billion dollars, according to three US
00:02:46officials and three people
00:02:47a familiar with internal cost estimates at the Pentagon. In our spotlight
00:02:51program will speak on with this report on covers, including deception from the White
00:02:55House and its many ramifications. Now for our
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00:03:02of Joining of us Marcia Baker Economic Expert out of Washington
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00:03:12and Clive Menzi's researcher and commentator joining us from
00:03:16London. Hello to the both of you and pleasure to have you both on. Marcia if it's
00:03:20okay we're going to start with you out there in DC. Hope you're safe and doing well pleasure to have
00:03:24you. Your initial take on how timely this report is ahead of
00:03:28mid-terms come November.
00:03:30and on the heels
00:03:30of the Trump administration ordering a probe at the Pentagon, including
00:03:34polygraph a lot of viewers that may not know what that is, it's a lie
00:03:38detector test uh imposed on 50 people at the pentagon for
00:03:41leaking uh information that
00:03:44of was included in this report over the past
00:03:46weeks. yes it
00:03:50is very crazy is it not at the
00:03:53pentagon to require lie detector
00:03:56tests to try and sneak around and find out
00:04:00Who is telling the truth, but the reality
00:04:04of the truth is manifest in many
00:04:07ways, one of which is the US economy
00:04:11in other ways other than the manufacturing of missiles
00:04:15and weapons and armored and
00:04:19arms, the US economy is
00:04:23worsening by the day, the
00:04:27threat of electricity outages, the... lack of
00:04:30of new water provision in the west, very fundamental
00:04:34things, so therefore a lot
00:04:38of the popular public
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00:04:43of worry about that is among the things feeding into a vote
00:04:47in the house of
00:04:49in representatives in congress yesterday
00:04:52that the war powers act which
00:04:56exists for several decades should be used.
00:05:00to stop the warfare against Iran by Trump
00:05:04because he never declared war back in late
00:05:07February, it's been six
00:05:10months and the house of representative. has voted
00:05:13220 to 204
00:05:17to that something should that this should be
00:05:20stopped, the combat without authorization by
00:05:23congress should be stopped, however, congress has been
00:05:27sent home today before the elections in November, so you have
00:05:31very fluid, very very tricky
00:05:34situation, you sure do, and thank you that mar for
00:05:38opening, take there, Clive, always a pleasure, thank you for your patience, um,
00:05:42your opening take as well cly and let me just add uh this was this
00:05:46report was released by Pentagon uh was a congressionally mandated
00:05:49report, it was released Monday shortly after its release president Donald Trump
00:05:53said a true social that the US is producing more
00:05:56exquisite and elite weapons than any time in our history, that's a direct
00:06:00quote, he said they're being delivered a daily basis to our forces in the middle
00:06:04east and beyond, and then just two weeks ago Clive, he posted the US had
00:06:07virtually unlimited amounts of ammunition and lashed out at reports
00:06:11of munition. shortfalls, oops, what happened there,
00:06:15clive?
00:06:17well, it's difficult to know where
00:06:21to begin, because we've been lied to about
00:06:25so much, um, mean
00:06:28if you look at the Ukraine theater, which
00:06:32was where this first started, when NATO was pouring
00:06:35weapons in Ukraine,
00:06:38basically demonstrated considerable.
00:06:42superiority then at the start of this current
00:06:46confrontation between Iran and
00:06:49Israel primarily, but the US obviously is
00:06:53handing glove, um, again the
00:06:57iron dome was was
00:06:59fantasy, um, I, I'm
00:07:03just not convinced, I haven't studied in great debt, the
00:07:07numbers or the number of warheads or what have you, but it
00:07:10just seems to me 'if if they had such
00:07:14superiority then the results that we've been seeing
00:07:18wouldn't wouldn't have been obtained by Iran or the
00:07:22or Yemen or
00:07:23Hezballah right and then and Marsia and
00:07:27the irony here really is that this this this price tag that
00:07:31the Pentagon is putting on it it does I mentioned it earlier it does
00:07:35not uh uh it doesn't
00:07:38basically account for facilities that have yet'. be
00:07:42repaired many
00:07:43the US bases in west Asia that Iran has targeted
00:07:47a lot of neighboring countries that were hosting uh the these
00:07:51US forces that were launching the attacks from those bases
00:07:54um and once that gets factored in really this price dack could be
00:07:58truly uh staggering I'm sure there'll be report down the road that'll
00:08:01make it much more transparent in due time yes
00:08:05yes you are exactly right that the
00:08:09the pentagon figure that says only 33
00:08:13billion or so is both incompetent as
00:08:17well as lying to serve being blood thirsty, they don't
00:08:20care, but remember it's the
00:08:23besides what is being bought by
00:08:27Europeans and others from the United States in the way of arms to send to
00:08:31Ukraine, the United States is
00:08:34actively is active militarily in
00:08:38deployments in the western hemisphere, the secretary of
00:08:45as well as the secretary of war, he
00:08:49likes to call it, but rubio was just in south
00:08:53america, in colombia, in ecuador, what was he
00:08:57talking about? we need a US
00:09:00military base of operations for the
00:09:03region, maybe here in Colombia, we should keep out
00:09:07the Chinese, in other words, you're having
00:09:10bellacose.
00:09:42rises kept main logistics hub in the region in Bahrain with drones and
00:09:46ballistic missiles and many other targets, so my question to you,
00:09:50Clive, why this war, why now, why have this
00:09:53imposed war on Iran be one the first time that the government is being
00:09:57pressed to be so transparent about its costs
00:10:00in a war? is this telling of how
00:10:03controversial this imposed aggression on Iran actually
00:10:07is? well, I think we need to
00:10:11remember we... We don't need to go too far
00:10:14back um, but on September the 10th,
00:10:182001, Don Rumsfeld
00:10:21disclosed there was a 2.3 trillion dollar hole.
00:10:25in the Pentagon budget, what has become apparent
00:10:29through everything that we've seen since in
00:10:32Iraq, Syria, Libya, this
00:10:35Ukraine and now in
00:10:38the in the middle east is,
00:10:41it's a giant money laundering machine, um, one the
00:10:45reasons that their weapons are not is, so we
00:10:49say sophisticated, efficient, as as is
00:10:53claimed by Donald Trump, is... that the US arms
00:10:57industry has basically had a free rain to rip
00:11:00off the government or foreign governments left, right
00:11:04and center, and they're not alone, and it's not a national
00:11:08problem, this is a global problem, primarily in the
00:11:12west, where
00:11:16these walls, which were planned, as I said,
00:11:19extract the maximum value, as I
00:11:23said on occasion. the ultimate
00:11:27plan the ideology of destruction which is run by a cult
00:11:31which controls the leavers of power through money is
00:11:34population control and reduction and
00:11:38fear is a primary vector of control,
00:11:41obviously warfare, conflict is
00:11:45going to add to the population reduction, but
00:11:49these are not the only vectors, many others, but where we
00:11:53at at the moment is... they've been trying to if you like
00:11:57finess how they undertake some sort of reset
00:12:01the economy because the money system needs a
00:12:04reset, it didn't get reset in 97, it didn't get reset
00:12:08in 2000, it didn't get retail reset in
00:12:122008, and what we've seen with the various
00:12:15machinations over crypto, stable
00:12:18coins, all the various measures that they come up with
00:12:22CBTC have all all all in towards
00:12:26trying to affect a reset, but in the same way
00:12:29after the 30s depression, the reset was achieved by
00:12:33war, so I think there are multiple objectives in this
00:12:36war, but the primary one is for the cult or
00:12:40the structure to protect itself from
00:12:44becoming irrelevant, it is actually becoming
00:12:47increasingly irrelevant, as Marsia
00:12:50said, populations are increasingly
00:12:54disc. with with their government, they they know that
00:12:58they're not acting in their interests and on the contrary, they
00:13:01know that they are effectively abusing them and
00:13:05killing them, and so what we have is
00:13:09is
00:13:10a collapsing system which is like a wild animal trapped in the
00:13:13corner with money, and that that is rising,
00:13:17and not only that, the the
00:13:21technology sector itself that has all been, 'all the
00:13:25most most the tools are open source, the
00:13:29only thing that isn't open source at the moment is
00:13:32value, value is quickly controlled and it's
00:13:35an extractive mechanism to make people
00:13:39poor and compliant uh, but as more people
00:13:42disassociate from the system that's failing them uh
00:13:46something else is taking its place, but you won't see that in
00:13:50statistics or numbers, but it's happening all around the world
00:13:54and these networks'. are interconnecting um,
00:13:57the internet has been a effective tool for
00:14:01control, but it's also been a much more effective
00:14:05tool in socializing
00:14:08knowledge, understanding, capacities, needs,
00:14:11relationships, and this is what's taking
00:14:15over, and what what we're discussing is the
00:14:19old system collapse, what very few people are
00:14:22discussing is this new way? of organizing that is
00:14:26emerging, which is no longer dependent on money. good
00:14:30stuff there, Clive, and Marcia, your take as well, why congress you feel is
00:14:34ordered this report? I mean, and why we have a
00:14:38lawmakers like Thomas Massy and few other voices pushing for
00:14:42impeachment hearings against Pete Hegsith, the
00:14:45so-called war minister, and what, what's causing the many internal
00:14:49struggles and problems between the Trump administration and congress when it
00:14:53comes to this war, is it because? is it the nature the war? the failed
00:14:57objectives, the pretext that was employed to actually launch it with the
00:15:01Israeli regime, the um the lies, the deception, the the
00:15:05failures, what do you attributed to? several things
00:15:08are coming together, some of which you mentioned,
00:15:12there is the horror at the outright killing of
00:15:16people, the young girls at school in Iran, the
00:15:19Palestinians in Gaza, there's also people
00:15:23who just worry that... the military budget
00:15:27is has such debt and requires such debt
00:15:31service that it will destroy the economy, which is
00:15:35true, then
00:15:36there are other people. who would like to restore
00:15:40what 250 and 150 years ago was
00:15:43called the American system, which meant deliberately
00:15:47building up your own nation and supporting other
00:15:51nations, not tearing it down. there are still
00:15:54those people who, if you think of famous brand
00:15:58name pieces of infrastructure, they built
00:16:02in the 1930s the Tennessee Valley, river
00:16:05valley authority. They built um other
00:16:09big projects, there's a dam on the Colorado River in the Western
00:16:13North America, the Hoover Dam, and there it's
00:16:17less known, but there was foreign relations
00:16:21dependent on this, there were dams built on the
00:16:24Helmond River after World War
00:16:27II, um, in the Helmond Valley Authority, there was
00:16:31a dam built in Haiti by President
00:16:34Eisenhauer from World War II. so what you
00:16:38still have a combination of positive and negatives
00:16:42that see test, which Clive just referred to, as which
00:16:46Clive just referred to, the end
00:16:49the the casino economy,
00:16:52speculation is not going to be able to continue,
00:16:56now we hope the desperate animal in the corner will
00:17:00not continue to resort to to
00:17:03something so desperate as nuclear,
00:17:07instigation, but we do look what we saw
00:17:11last weekend in New Delhi,
00:17:14the meeting the global majority
00:17:18in the expanded bricks, President
00:17:21Peseshikin, the presidents of Eurasia,
00:17:25South Africa, dozens of leaders
00:17:28met with a positive dynamic, just the opposite of what what I
00:17:32described, so the hope is we get through this
00:17:36valley of... death into a brighter future if we
00:17:40hook up the the uh what can wake
00:17:44up in western Europe and the United States with this
00:17:48positive dynamic? thank you
00:17:51Marsia and Clive, I want to swing over to the US public for
00:17:55second, the war hasn't had lot of support when it comes to your
00:17:59average everyday Americans, even many who had bought
00:18:02into Iran's demonization propaganda for years seem that
00:18:06they're not. really on board with the need for this war to take
00:18:10place, they haven't been behind it from day one and especially now
00:18:14that it's impacting inflation and their energy
00:18:18costs, why have the US public not been completely
00:18:22sold, and i believe latest polls showed as the most unpopular
00:18:25war in recent history among americans, they're not behind
00:18:29it, mean very few are to be frank,
00:18:32why? well
00:18:36there is some... parallels to what was happening around
00:18:39the beginning the last century where there was a
00:18:43desire to amasculate or
00:18:46reduce the power or destroy even Germany and
00:18:49Russia um and in the run up to
00:18:53that if you at the time
00:18:56there was a very strong German population in the
00:18:59US um and the propaganda
00:19:03effort to actually demonize
00:19:05Germans uh spearing banuts on babies
00:19:09on baynuts and all sorts of hideous things and not
00:19:13dissimilar to what's been claimed now
00:19:16the thing is popular people don't go to
00:19:20war their own vallition they
00:19:24are propagandized conditioned made
00:19:27angry at the other whoever the other and i
00:19:31think it was muhammad ali said i'm not going to kill load of poor
00:19:35people in another country mean that's "Essentially
00:19:39most people don't want to go to war,
00:19:41it is the structure that is incentivizing this and
00:19:45creating division, whether it be
00:19:48anti-muslim, anti-Israel, whatever it may be, anti
00:19:51jews, rather than Israel, I think Israel
00:19:55is something else entirely, but let's not
00:19:59forget
00:19:59that there's a total disconnect in the
00:20:03democratic system,
00:20:04it is, it has never been a democracy because it's all..." has been
00:20:07controlled and it's now visibly controlled, I'm not sure
00:20:11what the percentage of representatives in the US are
00:20:15controlled by the Israeli lobby, but it's a fair
00:20:19number, similarly in the UK and across
00:20:22Europe. The thing I would like to add to
00:20:25this is that everybody on Hiroshima and
00:20:29Nagasaki, I haven't got time to go into it
00:20:33now, but those were not nuclear explosions because it wouldn't have
00:20:36less shadow. on concrete it would have vaporized the
00:20:39concrete and so this idea of
00:20:42mutually destruction which hangs over
00:20:45everything is another lie and the fear
00:20:49prop. to keep people controlled, fear in
00:20:53fear and divided. Thank you, Clive
00:20:56MRC you get the last word in if you could, if you could also
00:21:00we in on why this is seems to be one the most unpopular if not the most
00:21:03unpopular in modern history, us waged
00:21:07aggression against a country. Routers and Ipsis has put it around
00:21:1067% of Americans feel they're against this war, when
00:21:14Iraq it comes around 64, Vietnam came around 65, and
00:21:18Afghanistan around 66 and a half percent. was close to 68%,
00:21:21what do you attribute this to? and I had someone tell me uh earlier, and I don't how
00:21:25accurate it is, because Americans aren't against waging wars, they're against losing them, and this has been a
00:21:29losing a war for Americans, so obviously they're going to be resentful
00:21:33to it, I'm not sure if that completely captures the essence of this, how do you see
00:21:37it from your perspective? well,
00:21:40Americans uh, some them are waking up at
00:21:44terrible cost to people abroad and destruction
00:21:47here, to the fact there has been...
00:21:50insidious penetration and invasion in
00:21:53Washington DC connected to London, the city of London,
00:21:57connected to Amsterdam, of it's been known
00:22:01recently as the Epsteine class, but uh
00:22:05perverted elites that wheel and
00:22:09deal in money, in people, in death and in power, it's
00:22:13the globalist west, and you've had this for decades,
00:22:17you have a military, financial. industrial
00:22:21complex, an agro financial industrial
00:22:25complex, media in the west financial
00:22:28complex, that's becoming more exposed, we
00:22:32should expose it, we should go to end all the wars
00:22:36and need to recreate a the western
00:22:39system has to have emergency credit and banking
00:22:43reorganization, best done with
00:22:47the drive that's coming out the bricks.
00:22:50the shanghai cooperation organization, the global
00:22:53majority, and we can come out of this danger period in
00:22:57history a good way, but Americans have
00:23:01sick sense, a funny subliminal
00:23:04sense that they have been governed by this
00:23:08alien elite class for decades, some
00:23:12beginning sometime after world war to, and so
00:23:16we have to push that and see that that is inf.
00:23:21transition to new system in the nearest possible
00:23:24time.
00:23:25all right, thank you both. bless you both and stay safe to the both of you. marcia
00:23:29baker, economic expert joining us
00:23:31out of Washington DC and also Mr. Clive menzi's researcher and
00:23:35commentator, joining us from London. and viewers, this brings us
00:23:38to the conclusion of this segment of your Press TV spotlight program. thank you for
00:23:42tuning in and goodbye for
00:23:43now.