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00:00:05September 27.
00:01:19and that's why they were honorably
00:01:36issue, which is gaining
00:01:49Doctor Maria, you know
00:02:00Also, with us from Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf is Mr. Naim Haider Panjota.
00:02:03okay? The whole point So, Naim Sahab, of course, I will start off with you.
00:02:07Please tell me that on
00:02:10September 27th, many questions are being raised
00:02:14that it was said
00:02:18that whenever there would be an announcement for such a long march,
00:02:21it would be done by Mr. Achakzai and
00:02:25Mr. Nasir. We will not do it. That is, PTI will
00:02:28not do it. These people
00:03:00The thing is that it is at a turning point, just like terrorism
00:03:03has reached all over Pakistan to Islamabad. Economic
00:03:06terrorism, at this time, you can see inflation has
00:03:10arrived. How is poverty
00:03:13increasing? Pakistan's debts and here, jet planes
00:03:18decisions is being trampled upon at this time, and who knows what else is being done. On the third side, you can see violations of fundamental human rights. If someone needs to be put in
00:03:22jail, if someone needs to be shot, whatever needs to be done, for them,
00:03:26it has become such a ready tool that they just use it, and
00:03:30it doesn't even make a difference to them, and they say that they don't feel
00:03:33any pain in their hearts. The fourth thing is that if democracy
00:03:37is looked at in Pakistan, the condition of democracy is also before you, the
00:03:41sanctity of Parliament is also before you. In Kashmir, there was a recent election. What
00:03:44did their allied party say? How was it robbed
00:03:48on February 8th? And this situation is facing all of Pakistan. So when
00:03:52there is such a situation that the law and order situation is bad, the country's
00:03:56economy is ruined, there is no democracy in the country.
00:04:49will, because they talk about negotiations,
00:05:02it will be our first step because he is the one who, due to false cases, has been put in jail. And it is
00:05:06Imran Khan who can lead this on the right path, for which there is a struggle. And
00:05:11she criticizes Insha'Allah, you will see that 27
00:05:42the internal differences you have, because of them, you have taken
00:05:46such a long time. Alima Sahiba is also saying that you are making us wait a
00:05:50lot. So, it's not clear yet. You started by saying that this country has many problems.
00:05:53Elections, economy, you listed all
00:05:57of them. Then you are coming to his release. There are already
00:06:01differences within your party on that. Alima Sahiba is saying, "No one took her into
00:06:04confidence." Earlier, it was said that if any long
00:06:08march was announced, it would be done by Allama Nasir Abbas Sahab or
00:06:42that for Imran Khan's release, we should take one step further. So, we have taken one step
00:06:46further and given the date of September 27th, but this date is not that
00:06:50long. If you look at it, it's just a matter of days in the next
00:06:53month. It doesn't take long. He has been unjustly
00:06:57imprisoned for three years. And if such preparations involve a full power,
00:07:00all the arrangements for washrooms,
00:07:04transport, food, everything needs to be done
00:07:07so that we can come prepared to achieve our objective.
00:07:11Hmm.
00:07:19Even if there is a little time, Insha'Allah, that time will pass.
00:07:23And in the meantime, we will make full preparations. And Halima Apa also, if I tell you, she was
00:07:27with me yesterday. She absolutely said on this matter that
00:07:31she doesn't understand this date. That is, she thinks the date is a bit long, but at the same time, when she asked
00:07:35if I was not satisfied with this date, and if I was not consulted,
00:07:38she said, "Yes, in such matters, we do consult."
00:08:13As a governing party,
00:08:16do you have any concerns or at this time, any insecurity or
00:08:20any issue that you feel they might come and
00:08:24create problems for you? Or do you currently
00:08:27believe, as there is a lot of talk from your government camp
00:08:31that their own house is very divided, that this one-and-a-half-month timeline
00:08:35is perhaps more necessary for them to organize their own ranks
00:08:38than for the government? Because when this announcement was made,
00:08:42none of the party's central executive leadership
00:08:46was present at the rally in that way, nor were
00:08:49they informed. Now, Mr. Panjota is talking about their coalition partners,
00:08:53whether it's Mr. Achakzai or Allama Nasir
00:08:57Abbas Sahab, he says they are on board, whereas neither has there been any statement from them
00:09:01nor from their party. So, how do you see this? You have been
00:09:05a part of PTI. Does this point towards
00:09:08the internal differences? And then everyone to cover up, just like
00:09:42anyone understands who is running this party.
00:09:46You absolutely said it right in the intro that they tell us
00:09:50that Achakzai Sahab and Nasir Sahab will lead
00:09:53the entire party, but they themselves say
00:09:56that if we said anything according to our
00:10:02that if we said anything, then
00:10:05we would be dismissed the next
00:10:08day. So, who is calling the shots? Can someone tell me?
00:10:17she is running the party, which seems apparent because whatever action plan
00:10:20is presented before us,
00:10:23it.
00:10:37are there, those who are present, a handful of people, and where are they?
00:10:40Where are those 10, 20 thousand organizational office
00:10:44bearers of yours? Where did they go? Why don't they
00:10:47come? Although they have given a date to their MPs
00:10:50and MNAs that on that day,
00:10:54at Dila,
00:12:55they should give an answer to this question. Well, it's quite interesting. Right now,
00:12:58I want to ask Mr. Panjota, because we were talking
00:13:02that Mr. Mehmood Khan Achakzai is on board, and Allama Sahab is also on board.
00:13:06I will ask him later if his own
00:13:10Sheikh Waqas Akram Sahab or Salman Akram Raja Sahab are also
00:13:14on board or not, because their statements are somewhat different. But
00:13:17right now, I have a statement from Mehmood Khan Achakzai Sahab
00:13:21on Twitter, which he posted from his account four days ago.
00:13:55This statement was made by him approximately on the third or fourth
00:13:59of the month. So, you know, effectively,
00:14:02he is on a different tangent, Mr. Sanchota.
00:14:04Sir,
00:14:07look, there are two or three things you have said, and similarly,
00:14:11Uzma Sahiba has her own stance, her own
00:14:14party. She can hold a different view, she has her own opinion. But I don't
00:14:18say that she cannot express her opinion.
00:14:21She can, but I will definitely answer her, because in our
00:14:50he defeated the leader of Noon League, their chief Nawaz Sharif, by a lead of 77,000 votes. So he is such a leader whose name is
00:14:53synonymous with victory.
00:15:25So he says, "Congratulations," but arrange a meeting for me. And he says
00:15:29that he doesn't have the authority. So, those who don't have the authority
00:15:32to run the government, to make governmental decisions, who take directions from
00:15:36elsewhere.
00:15:42Maryam Nawaz Sahiba and Nawaz Sharif Sahab and all other people, their cases have been acquitted by the courts.
00:15:46All the cases that were made against them, the courts granted them relief.
00:15:50They should also seek relief from the courts. You took NRO 2, you took
00:15:54NRO 1. You made a deal and a deal, you made
00:15:57a lean plan, a plan that Imran Khan had mentioned,
00:16:01that this plan has been made to put me in jail and give them power, and under this deal, you
00:16:05amended NAB overnight .
00:16:37where is it, how far does it reach? We had estimated it,
00:16:41and who knows, seven or eight billion dollars was the talk at that time.
00:16:45So, even if you couldn't do anything, you could have at least
00:16:49made some progress at that time. Look, listen, leave Shehzad Akbar's talk aside.
00:16:52Their own people talk about
00:16:55them. No, sir, but it was your government, right? You had
00:16:59time. You should leave your allies aside. Okay, there you say
00:17:03there's been some confusion. What was here about the Avenfield Apartments, all
00:17:07those
00:18:37and judges who talked about justice were either sent home,
00:18:41or someone's fake degree case was made, and someone was told
00:18:44that if you don't rule in our favor,
00:18:48your brother will be picked up. And many judges also wrote letters. So, who doesn't
00:18:52know about all this? The respect for judges'
00:18:56that they say that if you go to meet Khan Sahab, they don't let you.
00:19:00In Adiala Jail, they say that the judge can do whatever he wants to spoil our case. So,
00:19:03do you think such a system, in such an environment, before such a judiciary,
00:19:07is free to make its own decisions? They are not
00:19:11even allowed. The judge who orders Imran Khan's release
00:19:15will be picked up the next day. Okay, so you have
00:19:18examples. My brother was picked up for 28 days. So, who doesn't
00:19:22know about this? Okay, sir,
00:19:24first, I want to respectfully disagree with you.
00:19:28You talked about PTV. The amount of time you get to speak
00:19:31is the same amount of time other guests get. This PTV
00:19:35is not like what Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf had at the time, where if someone dissented, they would
00:19:39be taken off air or their words would not be shown. If you
00:19:43don't get a chance on screen to present your views, then do so.
00:19:47Otherwise, I protest. You have made a completely wrong
00:19:51statement. Having said that, you don't want to respond to my point
00:19:54about Shehzad Akbar, who was such a big
00:19:58accountability czar you brought in. What
00:20:02did he do, and where did he take things? Then, as far as the judiciary is concerned, do you remember
00:20:05that poor judge whose great
00:20:37your party benefited, so then you
00:20:45definitely like to ask Uzma Sahiba one thing. Uzma Sahiba, there can be
00:20:48differences on other things,
00:22:00won. So they have no answer because they only
00:22:03have assumptions. Because all those cases were bogus,
00:22:09acquitted. Now I come to your question
00:22:12that why don't you allow meetings?
00:22:15Dr. Maria, her thousands of meetings have already taken place. I said
00:22:19it exactly, don't say it, don't create it. How many have happened in the last one year?
00:22:22Just tell me how many. No, look,
00:22:26the thing is, sir, that they should approach the courts. If
00:22:29they think they don't get justice, then they should go to court.
00:22:32And if the court orders it... Now look, the
00:22:36Superintendent of Jail follows some rules and regulations.
00:22:39Aliyah Khan has been told repeatedly that
00:22:43when you go to meet a brother, don't
00:22:47spread chaos outside.
00:22:50Don't give political statements to the media. Now, Rani
00:22:54meets him, but the other sister doesn't come out and
00:22:58act like that. One sister goes and meets her brother, but the rest of
00:23:02their lists, which their General Secretary brings,
00:23:05according to those lists, their meetings happen. Not
00:23:09everyone gets to meet. They let those they want meet,
00:23:13and those they don't want, they don't let meet. So,
00:23:16this is a rulebook, and
00:23:20there are all the rules and regulations of the prison.
00:23:23And what about the others? Now tell me, do the
00:23:27others eat country chickens cooked in desi ghee?
00:23:38implemented. Even lawyers cannot meet. Salman
00:23:41Sabdar Sahab Correct.
00:23:44He met in February. He came out and didn't say anything like that, he didn't
00:23:48do any propaganda.
00:24:15So go there, approach them, and if the courts allow them, then they can
00:24:19come and meet.
00:25:52meetings could not happen, and it is absolutely clear that we
00:25:56have not only gone to Adiala multiple times, but we have also filed
00:26:00various petitions in the courts.
00:26:02various contempt of court applications have been filed, but despite
00:26:06filing these applications, the court has not
00:26:08given orders.
00:26:11You should get it done. The court knows that
00:26:14the orders are not being acted upon before
00:26:17they are even given. So, the courts have unnecessarily, without
00:26:20justification, disposed of some petitions. The next day, there was
00:26:24also a petition, and you saw that the case
00:26:27proceeds, but no order is given. We kept
00:26:31talking about Khan Sahab.
00:27:04They have transferred and appointed judges like Rogor who are acting according to
00:27:08their wishes. If they are not acting, then arrange a meeting.
00:27:16in February, Salman Safdar Sahab went as a friend of the
00:27:20court and he told everything. He again presented
00:27:24the actual situation in detail, point by point, about the
00:27:27hygiene, what was being cooked in the kitchen, what was shown, he also said that
00:27:31he talked many times. Send someone you trust
00:27:35so that again, this
00:27:39momentum again, that his health is not good or Alia's health is not good, at least
00:27:43it should be rectified or
00:27:46negated. negated.
00:27:52that all prisoners
00:27:56are treated according to the jail
00:27:59manual. Salman
00:28:03Safdar Sahab went,
00:28:06is that Khan Sahab, if he has
00:28:09any health issue daily,
00:28:12six to seven doctors check him.
00:28:16He has masseurs, he has his own cooks,
00:28:20he has every kind of facility.
00:28:23He has a TV, newspapers come, he eats his favorite food.
00:28:27The only problem is that he doesn't... Okay, let me
00:28:31just ask you this then. You said that all prisoners are operating under the jail manual,
00:28:34right? You said in jail, there is
00:28:38a... I request you, even if you don't have it now,
00:28:41please tell me next time which such prisoner
00:28:45has been there for 270 days and is not allowed to meet anyone.
00:28:49If there is such a prisoner, please tell me.
00:28:52Doctor Maria, I just told you
00:28:55that when these meetings happen,
00:28:58they are given an instruction that
00:29:32The law enforcement agencies can tell you, or the jail
00:29:35superintendent can
00:30:10Prime Minister Muhammad Shahbaz Sharif's visit to Saudi Arabia. Prime Minister Muhammad Shahbaz
00:30:13Sharif departed from Madinah Munawwarah for Pakistan after completing
00:30:17his visit. Governor of Madinah, Prince Salman bin
00:30:21Sultan bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, bid farewell to the Prime Minister and the Pakistani delegation
00:30:23at the airport.
00:30:58statement between Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.