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00:01:41to talk about elections, because Link News continues with the exception
00:01:45of the interrogations of the candidates for the Senate across
00:01:48Brazil. For the state of Ceará, Sid Gomes, from
00:01:51PSB, participated in an interview with the
00:01:54presenters Marcelo Moreno and Bianca Saraiva from
00:01:58TV Cidade. Let's watch
00:02:00now.
00:02:06This week, Jornal da Cidade is interviewing the candidates for the Senate
00:02:10for Ceará. All those who belong to parties with representation in the National
00:02:13Congress were invited. The order of the interviews was defined by a
00:02:16lottery, and today's guest is Sid Gomes. Candidate,
00:02:20your time will be 20 minutes, which will be counted from now. Good
00:02:23evening, welcome to Jornal da Cidade. Good
00:02:31the moment. If the elections were today, possibly Ciro
00:02:35Gomes could be the next governor for the next
00:02:384 years here in the state of Ceará. Possibly also, if the elections were
00:02:42today, you would become senator for
00:02:45another 8 years. How would this relationship be today
00:02:48between separated brothers in a scenario
00:02:51like this? Would there be peace sealed for the good of
00:02:54Ceará? Well, my relationship with Ciro is independent, for
00:02:58me, of political issues. He's my
00:03:01brother, and that speaks for itself.
00:03:05I believe in the election of Elmano, right, and
00:03:09face. We can't remain I am working with
00:03:11him as I always have. I was a candidate
00:03:15and elected governor in 2006. The people,
00:03:18the parties that were with me back then, 20 years
00:03:22ago, are the same parties that are on our
00:03:25side. So, I repeat, my
00:03:28personal relationship, as far as it depends on me,
00:03:31will exist
00:03:35without relation to politics. But given
00:03:39any post-election scenario, is there any chance of this family relationship being
00:03:43resumed, candidate? As far as it depends on me, absolutely. I have zero
00:03:47problems. The respect, admiration, affection
00:03:50remain the same. We are simply on different
00:03:54paths, on opposite sides, and I have, in some way, the
00:03:58consolation, the comfort that... it wasn't me who changed
00:04:01sides, it was him who changed sides.
00:04:04Ciro is allied today with people who are
00:04:08our traditional adversaries. Wagner, André, they are
00:04:11our adversaries. They are people who bet on
00:04:14disaster and have very few proposals for the state of Ceará.
00:04:18Candidate, going back to 2019, do you regret having,
00:04:20uh, during the military police strike, advanced with a
00:04:24backhoe towards a group of strikers in Sobral, even though you were already
00:04:27a recently elected senator, you had taken
00:04:30office? I was on leave from the Senate at the time.
00:04:34Well, I didn't, I didn't try to do that, okay?
00:04:38I was in Fortaleza, I was
00:04:41informed that there were groups
00:04:44of plainclothes police, using
00:04:48police vehicles, telling merchants
00:04:51light festivals also illuminated the to close their stores, and people sent me videos
00:04:55and called me desperate. I feel responsible
00:04:58for my... city, just as I feel
00:05:01responsible for my country and my state. I called the mayor, the mayor
00:05:05was not there, he was in São Paulo, he had gone to a meeting there of the Instituto Cenceno Foundation.
00:05:08I felt it was my duty to go there and give some comfort,
00:05:12to give some solace to the people, and I walked through the
00:05:15center with several
00:05:18people, and at a certain point I
00:05:22asked to turn right, but the traffic flow of the street had reversed,
00:05:25it had become a one-way street in the wrong direction. So I was forced to go to the next street and turn
00:05:29right. When I arrived about 100 meters
00:05:32after turning right, they were blocking the street. It wasn't
00:05:36me who invaded, they were blocking the street. I
00:05:39went there and asked them to... evacuate
00:05:43the place, I warned them that what they were doing was illegal,
00:05:46and unfortunately, they did not
00:05:50evacuate. I felt obliged
00:05:53to mark a space,
00:05:56right? I never imagined I would take a shot or two
00:05:59shots, more than that, one person
00:06:03and her circumstances. In that conjunction, I had no other
00:06:07alternative, or it would be my demoralization. I would
00:06:10live from then on without honor, and I, yes, I
00:06:14cannot live without honor. So, objectively, there is no regret. So
00:06:18I didn't, I didn't try, right?
00:06:22And well, if everything happened the way it happened,
00:06:26I repeat, for me it's better to die
00:06:30with honor than to live without honor. Candidate, yesterday we
00:06:33also received a candidate for the Senate from your political group,
00:06:36Luíannis, and we talked to her
00:06:39about the break that happened between the two, yes, from
00:06:42Liziane in ah in 2012. So
00:06:45I repeat the question that was asked to her yesterday: did someone change
00:06:49during that time, you or her, so
00:06:52that these ties could be re-established once again? We have more
00:06:56affinities than that, we
00:06:59were many times on the same side, many
00:07:03times, much more than on opposite sides. In politics, that happens.
00:07:06Luisiane, even leaders of her party
00:07:10were on one side, she... was on the other, right?
00:07:13So that doesn't mean we're going to
00:07:17marry and live a a a a life together.
00:07:21We are making an alliance. She is
00:07:23in another party, it's no longer her historical party, but I am
00:07:27grateful to her because she supported me for
00:07:30the candidacy for governor in 2016. I
00:07:34felt it was my duty to
00:07:37support her when she was re-elected in 2018. Isn't
00:07:41it confusing for the voter at a certain point, because there were
00:07:44exchanges of insults during a period, and today there is support? So how does
00:07:48the voter manage to understand this scenario?
00:07:52Personal insults, I don't think there ever were any
00:07:55from either side, right? What we
00:07:58had together in 2016, we had together in
00:08:022018. In 2020, I
00:08:05defended that there should be a PT candidacy, I was willing to
00:08:09support it for the mayor of Fortaleza, and
00:08:11I understood. The polls showed that the
00:08:15administration had an evaluation that
00:08:18did not recommend having a candidate directly linked to
00:08:22the administration. I brought this consideration to President Lula,
00:08:25who was a former president at the time, but they understood that he should
00:08:29be the candidate. So at that point, I ended up launching the
00:08:32candidate who was Roberto Cláudio, and then you see today,
00:08:36politics has this, today I am with Luisiane,
00:08:40Luisiane is with me, Roberto is with... me. So it happens,
00:08:44it happens. I, I don't change like that, for me,
00:08:47people have virtues
00:08:50and they have flaws. I don't, I don't, I don't change my
00:08:54concept of people because they are on my side or against
00:08:57me. People, for me, still have virtues and
00:09:01flaws. Candidate, uh, you said in a recent interview, in a
00:09:05podcast interrogation, that you are against the existing polarization
00:09:09in the country, criticizing it or classifying it as harmful. You also
00:09:12stated that you are neither a PT member nor a Bolsonaro supporter, you are from the PSB, the
00:09:16party you belong to. But your political group, uh, uses
00:09:19this tool, let's say, to classify the opposition candidate, to draw
00:09:23votes from those who decided to vote for President Lula, but did not decide on a vote for
00:09:27governor. I ask, do you believe that the current voter can
00:09:30and should make this separation? Well,
00:09:34look, we have two very clear projects in
00:09:37Brazil, that is, I, for my
00:09:40taste, would have a third, a
00:09:43fourth, a fifth project, honestly. Of the
00:09:47alternatives that are out there, it's not just me, the vast majority
00:09:51of Brazilians end up making a choice for one of the two,
00:09:54right? You can be sure that whenever there is a
00:09:58political, a dispute, in which on one side is
00:10:01Lula, who for me is the greatest, the best president in the
00:10:05history of Brazil. I will not change my concept. God willing,
00:10:09a better one than him will come, but comparing him to the
00:10:12previous ones that I followed, that I
00:10:15follow, he is, he is much better than anyone,
00:10:18on the other side is this Bolsonaro
00:10:21thing, which I think is a much worse evil.
00:10:25So 100 times, if there were a dispute between Lula and
00:10:29Bolsonaro, 100 times I would be on Lula's side. To wish
00:10:32for a third way, I wish for it, I defended it
00:10:36until a little before the definition of the candidacies
00:10:40that we had a third way, and I always acted this way. If you
00:10:43look at my history, in the last election,
00:10:46right, I voted for Ciro in the first round and I voted for Lula in the
00:10:50second round. In the 2022 election, in the previous election, I voted for Ciro in the
00:10:54first round and I voted for Haddad in the second round. In the
00:10:58previous election, I, I have always had this
00:11:01stance, I haven't changed anything, right? You
00:11:05didn't vote because you were absent, but you said
00:11:08you would vote 100 times if necessary for the PL of
00:11:11dosimetry, which would reduce the sentences
00:11:15for, the sentences that would be applicable to those convicted of
00:11:19the January 8th act, a position that is contrary
00:11:23to that of your political group. Why? I
00:11:26don't, political group, I have an alliance with the PT, I'm not of the
00:11:30PT. If I were 100% allied with the
00:11:34PT, I wouldn't be affiliated with another party, I would be affiliated with the PT. What we
00:11:38do are alliances at the national level. The PT is
00:11:41allied with the PSB, the vice-president of
00:11:45Lula is Alckmin, and he is now a candidate for vice-presidency
00:11:49and he is the vice-president of my party,
00:11:52right? So we have alliances. I am not
00:11:55a PT member and I don't, I don't align
00:11:58myself. I think it's bad to automatically align
00:12:01with theses, because it's a thesis of petism or a thesis of
00:12:05bolsonarism. I think we should reflect on the
00:12:07issue. So we are the ones who made
00:12:11us senators. I was already in office. The law
00:12:15that dealt with
00:12:18having the penalties provided for
00:12:21crimes, attacks against democracy, we were the ones who made it. "I
00:12:25participated in that law. When we make a
00:12:28law, the law is subject to amendment
00:12:31later, and the
00:12:34justice system is obliged to comply with the law. So to
00:12:37condemn a person to 18 years in prison because
00:12:40she put lipstick on a statue in the Praça dos Três
00:12:44Poderes, I don't think that's reasonable,
00:12:48honestly. Why did they give 18? Because there was no
00:12:51alternative to giving a different sentence. Participated in..."
00:12:55movement and participants, financiers,
00:12:58ideators and organizers
00:13:01were treated the same way. So what we understood from a
00:13:05meeting we had with five or six senators with three or
00:13:08four Supreme Court ministers, is that
00:13:11an adjustment should be made to the law, including Alexandre,
00:13:15who was the judge of the case, the rapporteur
00:13:19of the case, was present at that meeting. So that's what I did.
00:13:22If I didn't vote, I think I did. Right, I think I
00:13:26did. But anyway, I, I am in favor of defending
00:13:29dosimetry in this specific case. I'm not trying to give amnesty to
00:13:33Bolsonaro, that's another story. Bolsonaro is the leader of this
00:13:36movement, there are other people who financed it, these should
00:13:40be exemplarily punished,
00:13:43because there is no greater value than democracy, although,
00:13:46unfortunately, many Brazilians do not
00:13:49give due eh attention, respect
00:13:53to this sacred thing that is democracy.
00:13:56Democracy is the power of the people to choose their rulers. We
00:14:00cannot transfer that to anyone. There is no one more enlightened than the
00:14:04people to choose their representatives. And whoever attacks
00:14:07this, organizing, I repeat, organizing,
00:14:11planning, elaborating, financing, should be
00:14:14rigorously punished with harsh penalties. A person who is used as
00:14:18a pawn, who was there for a movement, didn't even know what
00:14:21they were doing right, cannot have the same penalty, honestly. They would
00:14:25have a penalty, they would be convicted, but not, a penalty, on a scale,
00:14:28of course. 18 years in prison for a person who put on
00:14:32lipstick, this became, became an icon, but so
00:14:35many others like that, penalties for vandalism, you
00:14:38destroy a piece, uh,
00:14:41historical, a clock in the palace, that is,
00:14:45this should have a penalty for vandalism, not for
00:14:49attack on democracy, right? You break the window of a, of
00:14:53a, of a series of... of a power,
00:14:56that's already a more serious thing, anyway, the penalties
00:14:59they must be, uh,
00:15:01individualized
00:15:04and proportional to the crime committed. It's not reasonable that you treat
00:15:07everyone the same way. Dosimetry did
00:15:10this. Today, today many people who
00:15:14criticized it are defending it. Candidate,
00:15:16the choice of the first alternate also and of the alternate also makes up the
00:15:20image of a candidacy for the Senate. Your first alternate,
00:15:23Elmano, has already been involved in political controversies here in the state.
00:15:27Did you evaluate the impact of this choice on the electorate? Do you
00:15:31believe it could cost you votes? Look,
00:15:33Marcelo, for me, everyone is innocent until...
00:15:37proven otherwise. It's not a
00:15:39reference, a citation, an inquiry,
00:15:43or something that makes a person condemned. How many
00:15:47times have we seen even people condemned
00:15:50later be reviewed,
00:15:53right? And, well, if
00:15:57they, uh, admit that an injustice was done,
00:16:00then Júnior Mano, for me, is a person who leads
00:16:04many leaders in the state of Ceará. It's not
00:16:10redundancy, but it's not easy to lead leaders. Júnior
00:16:13Mano has, uh, with his attention,
00:16:17more than 40 mayors and female mayors in the
00:16:21state of Ceará. Few people have that, and for me it's
00:16:24incompatible. I'm not naive, for me it's
00:16:27incompatible. There are people who, in politics, in these things of
00:16:31amendments, pass the amendments and
00:16:34ask for commission on these amendments. There are
00:16:38people who pass the amendments and obviously expect recognition
00:16:41in votes, in attention, in political
00:16:45alignment, and even electoral. For me, these are two
00:16:48absolutely different things. I have never seen from the mayors, and I
00:16:52have a direct relationship with mayors, with many mayors,
00:16:55anyone say that Júnior asked for commission, uh, for
00:16:59the release of some funds, as I see in many
00:17:02other cases. From the voter's point of view, from the voter's point of view, I don't
00:17:05mean yours. right? Uh, regarding Júnior
00:17:09Mano, but the voter, uh, can also judge, since
00:17:13it's a vote that you cast together, you, it's you,
00:17:17you're voting for the Senate and also for the first alternate. It's
00:17:20written in my propaganda, it says "Senator" cannot
00:17:23impact,
00:17:26I, I, I will repeat what I have already said, right? I
00:17:30have conviction, otherwise I would not have
00:17:34chosen him as my first alternate. "I
00:17:37am convinced of his innocence. Well, and I think
00:17:41that's a right everyone has. To only be
00:17:45convicted if there is a trial,
00:17:48if there is an accusation, if there is a defense, the right
00:17:52of defense in all judicial instances
00:17:56has been complied with. Otherwise, you will lynch people.
00:17:59This is like the Inquisition, it's not modern times. In fact,
00:18:03these things are coming back, right? These things are coming back. I think we
00:18:07should be very careful with these things of accusation
00:18:10and already culpability without the
00:18:14person being able to have the opportunity to defend themselves in an appropriate
00:18:18space for that. You state that you are not against,
00:18:21I say this in the totality of the thought of reducing the age of criminal
00:18:25responsibility, do you believe that this measure can be discussed in the
00:18:29country as a form of protection of public safety, Bianca? Well,
00:18:33yes, I, I'm not saying I'm in favor, or defending it, but not totally
00:18:36against it. I will, well, I think the following: we have
00:18:40to look for solutions to the problems we
00:18:46inert, we have to move and look for
00:18:49solutions. Many, many people point
00:18:53to this, the reduction of the age of criminal responsibility
00:18:57as a way to reduce even
00:19:00the opportunism of some criminals who
00:19:02put underage people, under
00:19:0618 years old, on the front lines so that their
00:19:09sentence is shorter. So what I said is that we can do a
00:19:13test. I personally do not believe this is the best
00:19:17way. I made that very clear and I will make it clear here, I do not
00:19:20believe it is the best way. For me,
00:19:24this faction thing in Brazil will only be
00:19:28resolved with a task force led by the
00:19:31federal government. If not like that, no one will
00:19:35fix it. No one
00:19:37can, isolated in a state or a city, solve the problem. The moment
00:19:41you take action in a city, I have seen this, in São Luís do Curu they killed the uncle
00:19:45of the president of, the uncle of the, of the mayor,
00:19:49the father of the president of the chamber. So, a task force was
00:19:52formed, they flee and go to Rio de Janeiro and
00:19:56go to who knows where and keep giving orders there by cell phone.
00:20:00So, it's like this, either you have a planned
00:20:02action where there is a pact, legislation is advancing,
00:20:06we already have a law of
00:20:09punishability for members of criminal factions
00:20:12who threaten, right?
00:20:15And this is the biggest problem, the
00:20:18amount of threats is much greater than the amount of actual
00:20:22crimes, right? And they take advantage of this, of the fear, of the fear of
00:20:25people. The threat today of jail, of the
00:20:2920-year prison sentence, if
00:20:32the person is a first-time offender,
00:20:3570% of the sentence must be served. If not a first-time
00:20:38offender, 80% of the sentence must be served. So the
00:20:42legislation regarding something that
00:20:46threatens, before, the threatened person had to make a statement.
00:20:50"Now if the threatened person is terrified, how is he going to make a
00:20:53statement, expose his name and remain vulnerable to later having a
00:20:57a a a well, a a revolt or an
00:21:00action against him?
00:21:03Today, just a report already allows you to
00:21:07file the accusation, file the
00:21:10judgment of the person, so the legislation is already
00:21:14more or less adequate, and we will
00:21:17adjust, right? Law is like that, we make it..." and we see in its application
00:21:21how it works. The other legislation, the capacity
00:21:24of the Union to have a greater action, is to be
00:21:28voted on there through a PEC. I think now in October we should vote,
00:21:31and with that we will certainly have a greater action from the federal
00:21:35government. Candidate, 50 seconds remain until the end of our interrogation. Can you
00:21:39use this space for your final considerations? Well, I want to congratulate
00:21:42TV Cidade, the entire
00:21:45system for bringing these
00:21:48issues, the discussion of the electoral candidates,
00:21:52to congratulate and thank you for the opportunity
00:21:55to address the voters of Fortaleza and
00:21:59the metropolitan region, to ask for an opportunity. I don't, I don't work
00:22:02alone in this, I'm not a, a
00:22:05savior of the homeland. I, I seek and throughout my life I have always done so,
00:22:09to work collectively, to work in a group. We have a
00:22:12team that is led in the country by President Lula, in the
00:22:16state of Ceará, by Governor Elmano, two senators.
00:22:20Me and a group of federal deputies, state deputies, please,
00:22:23uh, help this team continue
00:22:27working for the state of
00:22:28Ceará.
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00:22:55and after, Gabriela Torre will talk about the tributes
00:22:59to the victims of September 11th. We'll be
00:23:02right back.
00:28:32Requests for first CNH (driver's license) grew
00:28:35216% between January and August compared to
00:28:39the same period in 2025. The
00:28:42data is from the Ministry of Transport. The number of
00:28:45requests for the first license was
00:28:487.3 million between January and
00:28:52August. The period coincides with the entry into force
00:28:55of the new rules for obtaining the official
00:28:59document. The main change is the end of the
00:29:02mandatory driving school
00:29:06are now conducted outside
00:29:10driving schools, either in accredited
00:29:13institutions or with authorized independent
00:29:16instructors. In the first 8 months of this
00:29:20year, 4.4 million theoretical courses were held and
00:29:24more than 2 million new drivers were trained.
00:29:27According to the Ministry of Transport, the waiting
00:29:30time for obtaining a license was reduced by
00:29:3430%. The estimated savings by the
00:29:37ministry is almost 10 billion
00:29:41reais.
00:29:42With one minute to
00:29:486 o'clock in the afternoon, Gabriela Torres, our international affairs
00:29:52editor, is here in the studio. Good afternoon still, good afternoon
00:29:55still from Isa to you, to everyone watching us here on Link News.
00:29:59Well, today, with topics that are not so
00:30:02uh, good, let's say,
00:30:05because we're going to talk a little bit about September 11th, right? It's been 25 years
00:30:09since the last one, since that attack that happened in the United States
00:30:13on uh, September 9th,
00:30:162001, September 11th, 2001.
00:30:20It's 9/11 and we also have a reporter in the United States to help us
00:30:24contextualize, right, for those who are not so familiar with the subject, let's
00:30:27talk about some things, right, about some documents that came out, especially this week
00:30:31leading up to it. But anyway, in fact we're going to start by saying, right, that
00:30:35New York and other American cities are now paying tribute,
00:30:38especially between yesterday and today, to the almost 3,000
00:30:42victims of the terrorist attack, then of September 11th, which turns 25
00:30:46years old today. So drones recreated the Twin Towers, right,
00:30:50over New York Harbor,
00:30:54city, the city sky, and all this time
00:30:57later, right, the consequences of the tragedy are still part of it.