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00:00:00to vote or to the polling station to make
00:00:04the justification, this can be done through
00:00:06the e-title, in relation to our program, your vote
00:00:10matters, we already have records that more
00:00:13than 2,000 voters with reduced
00:00:17mobility, were
00:00:19transported to polling stations and
00:00:23more than 8,000
00:00:25voters
00:00:27were transported from remote communities.
00:00:31speed in its Indigenous, quilombolas, among
00:00:33others.
00:00:36In relation to our ballot boxes,
00:00:391121 ballot boxes replaced,
00:00:43making a total of
00:00:460.2%. There is no manual voting in the
00:00:49country at this moment. Regarding
00:00:53misinformation.
00:00:56According to Sciad's notes, there were 453
00:01:00until
00:01:021 pm, since August 16th there were
00:01:06approximately 2,800
00:01:08occurrences, there is no record of deep fake
00:01:11related to presidential candidates that
00:01:14have gained relevance on
00:01:16social media, what was noticed is
00:01:19that many news circulating
00:01:22today were already
00:01:26known and already detected by the Court during the
00:01:30election period, so very little
00:01:32new content was detected today.
00:01:36Regarding the climate
00:01:37room,
00:01:42this was perhaps a
00:01:44sure step that the electoral
00:01:47justice
00:01:49eh
00:01:51materialized and the effects of El Niño, it's true,
00:01:55could be much worse than what is happening today, the
00:01:59forecasts are that the drought in the northern region, the
00:02:02floods in the southern region could
00:02:04really cause a displacement of polling
00:02:08stations
00:02:09and
00:02:12hinder the movement of voters to the polls,
00:02:16perhaps the state with the greatest difficulty was the state of
00:02:19Paraná, in relation, due to the
00:02:23heavy rains that occurred
00:02:26this morning and strong winds and...
00:02:30we see a lot of problems with electricity supply,
00:02:33so we started the day with almost
00:02:36140 cities in the state of Paraná without electricity,
00:02:40today and at this
00:02:43moment we have approximately
00:02:4694 cities with energy problems, this does not mean they are without
00:02:49energy or energy fluctuation
00:02:52or lack of energy, but what matters
00:02:55to convey to you, ladies and gentlemen, is
00:02:59that... regarding the polling stations,
00:03:02everything is functioning
00:03:05normally, all ballot boxes are
00:03:08working, we have generators
00:03:11and batteries sufficient to
00:03:15complete the entire voting process of
00:03:18transmission.
00:03:27Regarding arrests and apprehensions. by security
00:03:31agencies, 59 people were
00:03:34arrested on suspicion of electoral
00:03:37crime, of which 25 were
00:03:40caught in the act.
00:03:43electoral crimes, in addition to More than 380,000
00:03:46in cash were seized today and
00:03:49total more than 30 million reais in cash
00:03:53since January. These are the
00:03:56partial results, so far.
00:04:00I should speak to you again after
00:04:03the
00:04:04vote.
00:04:10Hello, we're going to start the questions, I'd like to call journalist Janaína
00:04:13Camelo from CNN, please, to start.
00:04:19receive votes, it
00:04:27Minister, good, good afternoon, good afternoon. "I would like
00:04:30to ask you about the possibility of judicialization
00:04:34after the elections. Do you fear that there may be this scenario
00:04:38of judicialization after the elections, that is, after the
00:04:41first round, if the result does not go to the second round, even if there is a
00:04:45result after the first round, in the case of the President
00:04:48of the Republic, do you fear that there is any margin for the
00:04:52defeated candidate to
00:04:55challenge the results of the polls and if that
00:04:58happens, do you think it could increase tensions between the
00:05:02Superior Electoral Court and the Federal Supreme
00:05:05Court? Thank you. Well, thank you very much for
00:05:08the question, eh, there is a tradition
00:05:12in Brazilian justice of judicialization, so
00:05:15it would be
00:05:17eh to expect that candidates, not only for the presidency of the republic, but also
00:05:21state and federal deputies,
00:05:24governors, knock on the doors of justice with their
00:05:28questions, right? What the electoral
00:05:31justice
00:05:33eh,
00:05:38expects, which usually happens, are cases
00:05:41related to... abuse of political power, abuse of economic power, but it's good to
00:05:45say that in relation to the
00:05:49electronic voting system, the conduct of the electoral
00:05:52justice,
00:05:57eh, the TSE equipped itself
00:06:01in such a way, inviting even
00:06:04civil society, governmental bodies, all this
00:06:07structure set up by the
00:06:10TSE, counts on agencies such as Ana,
00:06:14Nel, ONS, ABIN,
00:06:17Federal Highway Police, Federal Police
00:06:20and countless other institutions that not only
00:06:24accompany, they participate
00:06:26in the entire electoral process,
00:06:29so even if it is a right to question
00:06:32the elections, it is good to separate, one thing is
00:06:36to question the result and due to many factors that can
00:06:40be questioned, but our electoral system we are quite
00:06:44confident that so far there is no still
00:06:47no we have no complaints
00:06:51yet, we are almost
00:06:543 hours from the end
00:06:57of the voting and everything has been functioning with the
00:07:00greatest normality and with the greatest
00:07:03possible transparency
00:07:06eh.
00:07:12I would prefer
00:07:15not to comment because if there is judicialization,
00:07:18magistrates are not even allowed to
00:07:21make comments, so eh let's first
00:07:25conclude this stage of today
00:07:27which is to conclude the
00:07:30voting,
00:07:33then immediately move to the transmission phase and then
00:07:37the tabulation phase, only after
00:07:40we conclude all these stages of the
00:07:44electoral process will we
00:07:47be here concluding this
00:07:50mission. Luiz Felipe Barbieri from TV
00:07:53Globo.
00:07:58Good afternoon President. Good
00:08:00afternoon. Do you have any news, any
00:08:04problem that is hindering the arrival of voters to the polls, besides this energy
00:08:07issue, is everything running within the expected? And
00:08:11about the... cell phone in the booths, I'd like you to
00:08:14reinforce, right, what is the electoral justice's guidance regarding
00:08:18this and how the electoral justice should proceed from
00:08:22now on, is it a case of investigation, is it a case of electoral crime, I'd like you to talk a bit
00:08:25about that, thank you.
00:08:28Well, regarding the first question, which is the arrival of
00:08:31voters, we did a preventive
00:08:34work that was very
00:08:37successful, especially in the northern region of the country, the
00:08:40national water and sanitation agency also helped us
00:08:44to make a mapping and I also have to commend the work of the
00:08:48regional electoral courts, due to
00:08:51everything that was done before, today we practically
00:08:54had no problem with voter displacement where
00:08:58we expected to have more difficulty, which
00:09:02was the northern region, the southern region, despite the
00:09:05heavy rains and wind today, there was no
00:09:08flooding, no inundation that would prevent or obstruct
00:09:12the displacement of
00:09:15voters.
00:09:19Regarding
00:09:20the
00:09:24cell phone, there is
00:09:27constant monitoring, there was
00:09:31training, all the poll workers, male and female, who are
00:09:34working today, dedicating their Sunday to Brazilian democracy,
00:09:38received training
00:09:41for... in the voting booth, the entry of electronic
00:09:45equipment, not only cell phones, but also glasses that can
00:09:49photograph or film, eh, some
00:09:52incidents are natural to
00:09:55occur, the electoral justice must take
00:09:59measures, this primarily
00:10:01before reaching the TSE, from the regional
00:10:05courts themselves.
00:10:11President of the Republic.
00:10:15I just, I just heard, I don't, today I confess that I haven't
00:10:19had time yet to delve into isolated
00:10:23facts. Larissa Lopes
00:10:26from Record,
00:10:31hi minister, good afternoon, eh, I want to know if the TSE identified any
00:10:35element that justifies the closure of the US
00:10:39and Australian embassies, also alerts issued by the United
00:10:43Kingdom and Canada.
00:10:44Thank you.
00:10:52Well, what we have are two indications. First, from the
00:10:55governments themselves who justified the
00:10:59interruption, the suspension of services
00:11:03due to the occurrence of elections, and
00:11:06this is common, whenever there is an
00:11:10exacerbation, a political division within a
00:11:13country, other countries can, as was the case with
00:11:17Colombia, the United States also proceeded in the same way,
00:11:20suspending consular activities in the
00:11:23period surrounding the voting day
00:11:27eh our indications
00:11:30from the teams that
00:11:33monitor international risks do not point
00:11:37to any type of risk, including now more
00:11:40recently the Director General of the Federal Police confirmed, we have no
00:11:43report from the federal police, no report from ABIN, no report from any
00:11:47sector that works in partnership with the Superior Electoral Court, indicating
00:11:51any type of risk.
00:11:55Including yesterday I expressed myself
00:11:58eh and remembered this, I stated that our
00:12:02reports do not indicate any type of risk, whether
00:12:05international or from organized crime, as they also circulated with some
00:12:09threats and possibilities of attacks, we
00:12:12have not received any concrete
00:12:15indication of this so far,
00:12:19up to the present moment, it is a fact, right, nothing has happened
00:12:22yet. Marcos from SBT,
00:12:37hi minister, good afternoon, Marcos Santos here from SBT News,
00:12:41I would like you to provide more details regarding the
00:12:44electronic voting machines that had problems and were replaced, what
00:12:48caused this replacement, if it was the lack of energy, you talked about the
00:12:52lack of energy in some states. Was this the biggest problem you
00:12:56mentioned and I have another question on top of that, eh, if the
00:12:59TSE identified any wave of disinformation or content
00:13:03produced by artificial intelligence that was able to
00:13:06interfere in the course of this year's elections,
00:13:09thank you very much, eh, regarding the
00:13:12first question,
00:13:15if eh we detected
00:13:18any problem with the ballot box, yes, this is
00:13:22natural in an election, I remember
00:13:25I think it was in 2000 in Piauí
00:13:29there was an incident where they threw cornstarch in a ballot box,
00:13:33so if that happened in 2000, 20 years, 26 years
00:13:36later, it's natural that it happens, someone comes,
00:13:39tries to glue a button
00:13:42to hinder voting, the power
00:13:45oscillation is perhaps the incident that most caused the
00:13:49replacement of ballot boxes, many ballot boxes were replaced, there
00:13:52was no problem, the ballot boxes that eventually... had a problem
00:13:56they continue voting in another ballot box, they are
00:13:59replaced, all the votes cast
00:14:01there will be counted in the same way as the new ballot box, so
00:14:05we had no significant problem. Regarding
00:14:09misinformation, the report I have from
00:14:12today, from minutes ago is, I
00:14:16had already anticipated, the vast majority of the
00:14:20content that circulates or circulated today
00:14:23is already... known, mapped and
00:14:27identified content, we practically had no
00:14:30new or serious content that could
00:14:33cause any imbalance to the election.
00:14:37To finish, Luísa Martins from
00:14:39Folha.
00:14:43Hi president, good afternoon, good afternoon everyone. I would like to insist a bit, president, on
00:14:47the issue of foreign interference. Eh you spoke of the
00:14:50eh what the director of the
00:14:54Federal Police said, but he
00:14:57opened a preliminary investigation procedure to investigate not only
00:15:01foreign interference, but also the possibility of external
00:15:04funding in relation to the elections, eh, I wanted to know what is
00:15:08the level of alert of the TSE in relation to this
00:15:11topic, eh, especially now if there is a second round,
00:15:14eh, how does the election, the
00:15:18validity of the electoral result, stand, if this turns out to be true.
00:15:22Thank you.
00:15:27Thank you very much for
00:15:27the question,
00:15:31eh, let's talk about the current moment, let's leave the second
00:15:34round for an eventuality, so far. "We do not
00:15:38have any concrete indication of international
00:15:42interference, much was talked about
00:15:45months ago, including last year that these interferences could come
00:15:49through the platforms and I believe
00:15:52that the joint work that the
00:15:55TSE did with the
00:15:58platforms, not only the compliance plan, but a
00:16:01partnership and dedication that they had
00:16:05in conforming to the legislation"
00:16:09eh pushed away many of the problems that we could
00:16:13eventually have, but so far we have no
00:16:16indication from any of our rooms and teams within the court of
00:16:20any type of foreign
00:16:22interference.
00:16:26Thank you, I thank you, later we will speak
00:16:29again.
00:16:31So, of course, we continue
00:16:34following, bringing everything in real
00:16:37time, making the analyses, because I'm going to take
00:16:41this point that the collective ended
00:16:45on the issue of not having so
00:16:48far a concrete indication, nothing
00:16:51really concrete about international interference,
00:16:55Briciani, what can we say about this, also picking up on the point
00:16:59about the embassies,
00:17:00right?
00:17:06It's exactly as Minister Cássio said,
00:17:09right? Eh, we had this surprise of this closing of the
00:17:13embassies that later was
00:17:17deemed to be a practice, something that has already happened
00:17:20in other countries with heated elections,
00:17:24eh, well, in this whole context that we already discussed a bit earlier
00:17:27here, about the fears of a possible
00:17:30interference, it is important that the federal police really
00:17:33investigate if there was really any concrete
00:17:37threat, if it was just a preventive
00:17:41action by the countries, if there is
00:17:44any fear we should have regarding the
00:17:47positioning of these countries in
00:17:51relation to the Brazilian election, eh, I believe it is truly the moment for the
00:17:54federal police to bring these answers, right, because for
00:17:58now, what we have is this justification that
00:18:02there would be nothing specific that would justify this
00:18:05closing of the embassies. which was a factor that generated
00:18:09attention in recent days. Breciane,
00:18:12another topic from the collective with Nunis Marques was
00:18:16the judicialization in this election, we
00:18:20had in recent days decisions on José Roberto Arruda in
00:18:23Brasília, eh Garotinho in Rio de Janeiro, conflicting
00:18:26decisions on Deltando Alanhol in
00:18:29Paraná. To what extent can we
00:18:33expect one day to see the electoral justice resolve all
00:18:36these issues, well before the election,
00:18:40not arriving on the eve or even on election day with
00:18:44uncertainty if a candidate will appear on the ballot, if his
00:18:47votes will be considered null, if this will drag
00:18:50on for more weeks after the
00:18:52elections?
00:18:58Exactly, Renato, it's a very negative point of electoral
00:19:01justice, this inability to give
00:19:04a timely answer to the voter, right? The... Here in Brasília
00:19:08the candidate José Roberto Arruda had his candidacy
00:19:11blocked, 10 days before the
00:19:14elections, in Rio de Janeiro, the candidate Garotinho, right,
00:19:18had his candidacy considered irregular, now
00:19:21regarding the candidate Deltando Delanhol for
00:19:25the Senate in Paraná, a minister, a decision by a
00:19:28TSE minister had determined that the votes
00:19:32should be separated, not counted, Minister Nunes Marques himself
00:19:35revoked this decision, so these decisions
00:19:39eh everything we've been saying about the need for us to
00:19:43make voters aware, for voters to follow the process, to understand
00:19:46more, these decisions do not contribute, when electoral
00:19:49justice takes time to give an objective answer, if such
00:19:53a candidate is or is not able to
00:19:56goes against what we need for clarity for the
00:20:00voter about who they can choose and who they cannot
00:20:03choose among the candidates and... beyond
00:20:06that, right, regarding judicialization in a broader term, we
00:20:10followed some conflicting decisions, we already talked
00:20:13earlier about debates that were very negative, eh,
00:20:17the debate rules, debated, signed by all the
00:20:20candidates and the parties themselves resorting later and
00:20:24getting injunctions that ended up making some of these
00:20:28meetings unfeasible, eh we really need to be able to
00:20:32have stability in decisions so that we
00:20:35have greater clarity for the voter
00:20:37about their vote, about their possibilities, so
00:20:41the question that was addressed to Minister Casio was a little about the
00:20:45judicialization after the elections, right, a
00:20:47judicialization of the result, but this
00:20:50prior judicialization causes this effect of generating great
00:20:53insecurity for the voter that we need to
00:20:57ensure that electoral justice is also swift in
00:21:01relation to these ex post facto decisions, we see
00:21:04cases where candidates and elected
00:21:07officials who governed for 3 years were removed from
00:21:11office at the beginning of this year, eh, so
00:21:14once again what we need is to demand from
00:21:17electoral justice that it provides
00:21:21decisions, both before and
00:21:24after the elections, regarding
00:21:26after the elections, we remember that Max
00:21:30reinforced the issue of transparency, right, look, regarding the
00:21:33TSE, everything has functioned
00:21:37eh in the best way so far and with
00:21:40transparency and also reinforced that various institutions
00:21:44participated, agencies, federal police, everyone monitoring
00:21:47our system which so far has worked very well, we
00:21:50reinforce here that the minister was appointed by the Bolsonaro
00:21:54government, right
00:21:55Breciane?
00:22:00Exactly, I think as we said here there is
00:22:03a very important act by Minister Nunes
00:22:06Marques reinforcing this security of the electoral system. We
00:22:10had, right, in the recent past,
00:22:12strong questioning of the electoral system, I think we
00:22:16have been achieving a pacification in society. to give
00:22:20confidence to the system that the ballot boxes
00:22:23offer the result that the voter
00:22:26truly attributed to each candidate, it is
00:22:30very important this statement by the minister on the security of the
00:22:34system, we have historically the participation of
00:22:37international observers who are another level of
00:22:41endorsement on this security
00:22:44and efficiency of our electoral system, this is very
00:22:47important for democracy, so that the debate between people is, I
00:22:51prefer this candidate, I prefer that proposal and not
00:22:54whether the ballot box is truly reflecting your
00:22:58will. Speaking of Nunes
00:23:01Marques, in the Supreme Court, we know that in the next government the
00:23:05president will have at least three appointments for
00:23:08Supreme Court justices, who are those who are retiring, there's Luiz
00:23:12Fux, Carmen Lúcia and Gilmar Mendes. Fux retires
00:23:15in 2028, Carmen Lúcia in 29, Gilmar Mendes in
00:23:202030, there's also the situation of the Barroso vacancy, right, which was not
00:23:23filled after Jorge Messias's name was blocked in the Senate,
00:23:27so most likely there will be four names of ministers, at
00:23:31least, then it joins the fact that
00:23:34eh a part of the right, the PL, eh
00:23:38eh articulates there the election of senators to
00:23:41try to vote for even impeachment of ministers, right, eh what
00:23:45is the probable scenario we can see regarding the
00:23:48STF, regarding this... relationship between Congress and STF, also of the
00:23:52next president with the Federal Supreme
00:23:55Court.
00:24:00Look, Renato, it's a very difficult scenario, a scenario of
00:24:04great instability. I think we have been over these
00:24:08last weeks and months with a debate about the
00:24:11conduct of some ministers, with a debate also about
00:24:15positions with a possible political bias of the
00:24:18ministers and this is... very bad, I think there is an
00:24:22expectation of the Supreme Court as a judge, as someone who
00:24:25looks to be impartial to decide for or
00:24:28against, and as you mentioned, we have there on the part, right, of
00:24:32what is today the opposition a campaign directed at the
00:24:36Senate with this discourse that they need to
00:24:39elect senators so that they can, for example,
00:24:43remove ministers from the Supreme Court, I wanted to draw
00:24:46attention to another point, the Senate is the one who
00:24:49approves. Supreme Court ministers, we had the recent rejection
00:24:53of Jorge Messias, which had not happened since the Old
00:24:57Republic, right, since the late
00:24:591800s, we had this rejection now and
00:25:03we will have a very complex scenario,
00:25:06eventuality, for example, if a government
00:25:10is elected, a reelection of President Lula with the
00:25:13Senate as predicted, more to the right, would this
00:25:17Senate approve names nominated by President Lula,
00:25:20anyway, we will have a very complex institutional debate
00:25:24about the Supreme Court, we have, right, a
00:25:27proposal brought by several
00:25:29parliamentarians and also by presidential candidates, about the need
00:25:33to debate a judiciary reform more broadly, there is
00:25:37a debate about mandates for Supreme Court justices where there are pros
00:25:41and cons and in relation to this proposal, but there are also some
00:25:45questions, is it correct for a Supreme Court
00:25:48justice to serve for 30, 40 years in office, so we will have a very
00:25:51complex, very difficult,
00:25:55very arduous debate being held at a time when
00:25:58there is a certain radicalism of positions, as we said earlier
00:26:02the... a polarization where we only look at
00:26:05for or against, many times we don't debate these nuances, right
00:26:09why certain decisions need
00:26:13to be made, so answering your question objectively,
00:26:16I think we will have some crises
00:26:19contracted regarding this relationship between Congress
00:26:23and the judiciary, as that these crises can
00:26:27impact democracy, right? Younger people may not
00:26:30have full awareness...
00:26:32because they didn't experience the dictatorship and think that
00:26:35democracy is something concrete,
00:26:38solid, but is it really like that or does
00:26:42democracy also have its fragility? That is, how do these
00:26:45impacts can
00:26:48weaken, right, the system that exists
00:26:50today?
00:26:55Yeah, we have a debate, right, that our constitution stipulated that the
00:26:59powers must be independent and harmonious. We
00:27:03need to be able to make that happen again,
00:27:07I think we often see the Supreme Court
00:27:10interfering in matters that would be of Congress, the
00:27:14executive sometimes legislating, so to speak, right,
00:27:17as it is accused through provisional measures, we have
00:27:21a very complex debate about how the legislative
00:27:25executing through parliamentary amendments, so
00:27:29we have a bit of a debate about a dysfunction
00:27:33of the system that needs to be addressed and faced in broad
00:27:36daylight, with transparency, with clear arguments in a
00:27:40profound way, I believe that when we often
00:27:43politicize in favor or against,
00:27:46in this polarization, we lose a bit of the concept that lies
00:27:50behind it, uh, when we design a
00:27:53legislative being elected, an executive being
00:27:57elected and a judiciary that
00:28:00is to be appointed and have a... skill, it's
00:28:03because we each have different functions from each other and these
00:28:07functions need to be exercised, when there are these invasions of competence
00:28:11we create this breeding ground of this scenario,
00:28:14of this very bad scenario that we see, of one
00:28:18institution in conflict with another, which unfortunately is
00:28:21a scenario that should happen in the coming years
00:28:24and that we will have to have a lot of maturity as a country
00:28:28and that the elected authorities or even those
00:28:31appointed to the Supreme Court have the serenity
00:28:35to reach political constructions that allow us
00:28:39to maintain this solidity of democracy, we spoke earlier,
00:28:42we are in the longest period of direct
00:28:46elections for president and we are talking about a period
00:28:49that now, right, it doesn't even reach 40 years, it's very
00:28:53little, it's a process of solidification of our
00:28:56democracy, for us to get out of this moment,
00:28:59of this conflict with agreements that are... of
00:29:03society and with a clear definition of everyone's
00:29:06function, everyone's respect for their function, the competence of the
00:29:09other power will be very important for us
00:29:13to solidify this democracy, exactly,
00:29:16remembering that always focusing on the people, right? Politicians should not
00:29:20forget that they are not there for their own
00:29:24causes, right, but for the entire population, well, more news is coming
00:29:27here for us and it's this: the Ministry of Justice
00:29:31published the first report... on operations this Sunday until 2
00:29:34p.m. There were 361 occurrences,
00:29:38mostly in Minas Gerais with 43. In total,
00:29:42there were 313
00:29:46eight common crimes, half of which were committed
00:29:49against candidates, another four happened in polling
00:29:52or counting locations. More than R$100,000
00:29:55were seized, four weapons and 13
00:29:59vehicles were also confiscated, police...
00:30:02arrested four people. Two men
00:30:05were arrested last night in Manaus on suspicion of vote
00:30:08buying. R$78,000 in cash were seized, which
00:30:12would be used for bribery and vote buying. The agents
00:30:16also found political propaganda materials, including
00:30:19posters and flyers of the state deputy candidate Eduardo
00:30:23Assis, from Avante. The case is
00:30:25being investigated. We are now going to Rio de Janeiro. Reporter
00:30:29Letícia Antunes is at the electoral court in.
00:30:33dos Goytacazes and brings more information on how the voting is going, hi, good afternoon to
00:30:37you.
00:30:41Hi Keele, good afternoon to you and to everyone watching us, throughout
00:30:45the state of Rio de Janeiro, four occurrences have been
00:30:48registered so far, one of these
00:30:51occurrences happened in the city of Cardoso Moreira here
00:30:54in the north of the state of Rio de Janeiro, a man was
00:30:58taken to the police station.