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00:00:00strong in our region, the weather is already very cloudy, so
00:00:04for those who left it to vote at the very end, right, at the last minute, they have to hurry because the
00:00:08weather is cloudy here in the metropolitan region of Belo
00:00:11Horizonte, I'll be back with you in the studio, all right, Regenia, thank
00:00:14you for the information, this sound of the civil
00:00:18defense warning that already played earlier here in the newsroom in São Paulo, also
00:00:21happens in Minas Gerais, we are attentive to this issue of the
00:00:25climate, I want to bring to the conversation now something that
00:00:29Zambelle mentioned. I think it was Zambelli about the election
00:00:32to the Senate, there are 54 seats in the
00:00:35Senate and Bruno, I wanted to ask you because normally if we
00:00:39look at past elections, especially an election where you choose two
00:00:42senators, the choice of senator we always left for
00:00:46last, a question
00:00:48electorate and the PT, the eh maybe without so much importance in the
00:00:51voter's mind, but the Senate gained
00:00:54strength today or importance precisely because of
00:00:58issues related to the Supreme Court. federal court, because it's good to remember,
00:01:01only the Senate can open an impeachment request,
00:01:05eh, the polls also noticed this, that is,
00:01:08the voter is more attentive to whom to choose in the Senate or
00:01:12can, or can we see surprises, because precisely he will only decide who to
00:01:16vote for in the Senate, on the day he will look on the internet, on the last day, what is the number of the
00:01:19candidate I will vote for? Look, we still have a problem
00:01:23in the vast majority of the population, it's a lack of
00:01:26engagement regarding the Senate vote, there is still... this problem,
00:01:30a lot of misinformation, you arrive, many people don't know they have to
00:01:34choose two candidates, they arrive now at the final stretch and feel a little
00:01:37desperate that they will have to choose one more, right, this problem
00:01:41still exists in Brazil, but there is no doubt that
00:01:44in this election in particular, the theme of
00:01:48the Senate was more important than all the historical series of
00:01:52elections we had here in the country, why?
00:01:55Precisely because of the Supreme Federal Court, the next president
00:01:59of the republic has to... appoint four new ministers, right,
00:02:02will probably appoint four new ministers and this
00:02:06appointment has to be approved by the eh eh eh by the
00:02:10Supreme Federal Court, in addition to this, there is a
00:02:13great discussion about the impeachment of some ministers of the
00:02:16Supreme Federal Court and for that you also need to have a majority
00:02:20eh that is favorable to these impeachments, so we notice
00:02:24for example some interesting movements due to
00:02:27this in Minas Gerais, Carlos. Viana, for example, as
00:02:31one of the candidates, eh, appeared a bit behind in the
00:02:35polls at the beginning, he wasn't doing very
00:02:38well, despite being a candidate for re-election, and the latest
00:02:41polls have already shown a great growth for him, precisely because
00:02:45he took on as his agenda this clash with
00:02:48the Supreme Federal Court, so you see that it has an effect,
00:02:54again to the process now of 26, the it is not yet desired from the point of view of democratic participation, for people
00:02:58to understand the role of the senator.
00:03:00what he does, the federative role of the
00:03:04senator, that's still very far off, but at least this
00:03:07motivation regarding the Supreme Federal Court made the Senate
00:03:11Crisiúma, talking about election gain more strength in the
00:03:13electorate's mind, that's exactly what we've been saying here,
00:03:17right, that now in November there's that election
00:03:20for mid-term in the United States and everything depends on the strength the congress will
00:03:24have for Donald Trump to be able to govern, here in
00:03:27Brazil it happens more or less in the same way. right, the president, he needs to have
00:03:31a majority in congress to approve the proposals in practice, so
00:03:35Zambelli, what can change in the relationship between the executive and
00:03:39legislative, depending on the composition of the
00:03:42chamber and the senate that comes out of the polls? It can
00:03:45change a lot, especially in the configuration of the
00:03:49new Senate, in the Chamber of Deputies, eh, our
00:03:52indications, at least preliminary ones,
00:03:55let's wait for the counting, of course, but they show that it is very likely that this
00:03:58model will be repeated, reiterated, in which the centrão, the parties
00:04:02of that more physiological, less
00:04:05ideological, more pragmatic center, I would say, have a
00:04:09significant re-election of deputies, of parliamentarians, very
00:04:12fed by that tripod, right, electoral fund, party fund,
00:04:16parliamentary amendments, there are a lot of resources for these candidates
00:04:20to campaign, this increases the number of re-elected candidates,
00:04:23making it difficult for new parliamentarians to enter, because if the
00:04:26parliamentarian manages to handle these resources properly
00:04:30during their mandate, they will arrive at the electoral period with a lot of credit with the
00:04:34voter to seek a new mandate, so it is quite likely that there will be
00:04:37changes in the configuration of the sizes of parliamentary groups, right, perhaps the PL with
00:04:41a little less deputies, the PSD may grow a
00:04:44little, eh, União, União Brasil/Progressistas eh may
00:04:48lose a little of its parliamentary group, the Republicans may grow a little, Podemos, which was a party that moved
00:04:51a lot in the party window to affiliate eh
00:04:55competitive members may grow, but strictly speaking
00:04:58the configuration of... this group that dominates the Chamber of
00:05:02Deputies should remain very similar to what is there, if it remains similar,
00:05:05depending on the election result, if President Lula is re-elected, for example, it is very,
00:05:09he did not manage to finish this term with a majority in the house. He ends his term
00:05:13with a minority, depending on the support of the centrão to approve
00:05:16everything, right? So if this result is repeated with President Lula
00:05:20re-elected, he will have difficulties in building his
00:05:23governability. A victory for Flávio Bolsonaro would change this scenario quite a bit, since
00:05:26the chamber also has a more center-right bias. Now in the Senate
00:05:30it seems very evident to me that the right will cause a kind of tsunami
00:05:34in this election, there will be many votes, many right-wing
00:05:37senators taking a position in the Senate with this agenda of
00:05:40confronting the Supreme Court, of promoting the impeachment of Supreme Court ministers, we know that
00:05:44it's not that simple, right, there are 54 votes to
00:05:48promote the impeachment of a Supreme Court minister, it's a very qualified majority, even if the
00:05:52right has a majority, it's possible that it has a majority in the Senate, but it doesn't
00:05:56reach this number of 54, and it's good to remember that the decision on
00:05:59the impeachment of a Supreme Court minister falls eh discretionarily
00:06:03to the president of the Senate table, so if a
00:06:06president in the Senate aligned with this agenda is not elected, even if there are
00:06:1054 votes in the plenary, there won't be... and there is impeachment of a Supreme Court minister,
00:06:14so it's a very complex equation and of course, it has an impact on governability,
00:06:17the Senate is an upper house, right, where eh the
00:06:20great issues of the republic are decided, now this week the president of the
00:06:24Columbus convened an extraordinary session eh surprising
00:06:27many actors in Brasília to definitively
00:06:29vote on eh the issue of the airline of work of the end of 6 by 1
00:06:33right, which is of great interest to President Lula, showing the strength of the Senate to move the
00:06:37pieces on this political chessboard, now it seems
00:06:40evident to me that it will be a more right-wing Senate from 27 onwards, and just completing
00:06:44this speech of yours, right, the PL made a task
00:06:48force to have strong candidates in the Senate,
00:06:51including we were talking about Santa Catarina, with two PL candidates, in other states
00:06:55this happens, in Santa Catarina, Carol De Tonio and Carlos Bolsonaro, both
00:06:59from the PL, who even with the risk of one stealing votes from the other, eh have the
00:07:03possibility of having two PL senators
00:07:06in Santa Catarina and in other states, let's go now directly
00:07:10to Crisiúma, where the... reporter Raquel
00:07:13Schneider is to bring details of how the situation is
00:07:17there, Raquel, a great afternoon to
00:07:19you,
00:07:21thank you Gustavo, I also greet my colleagues in the studio, everyone
00:07:25who is watching us, I'm speaking here
00:07:28from the city of
00:07:31Santa Catarina, here there are
00:07:3453,600
00:07:36voters, a municipality that is
00:07:39showing.
00:07:42voting, this is the main complaint here in the
00:07:46southern region of Santa Catarina, with waiting times that
00:07:49reach up to 2 2:30, the TRE
00:07:52believes that a reality of express
00:07:55delay in action
00:07:58in candidates for the Senate, in Santa
00:08:01Catarina as a whole, the TRE also registered
00:08:0499 occurrences throughout this Sunday
00:08:07related to the ballot boxes, 46
00:08:11needed to be substituted. lives, the others just with
00:08:14one, just restarting the process, changing the
00:08:18coil, everything went well, they returned to
00:08:20normality. Returning to
00:08:23occurrences related to electoral crimes,
00:08:27the military police reported that from yesterday to today there were
00:08:3032 calls, of these, 17 were
00:08:34confirmed, the majority
00:08:37related to the issue of discarding flyers or installing
00:08:40wind banners of... candidates near
00:08:44polling places, we also had a record
00:08:47of suspicion of the crime of boca de urna (illegal campaigning) near
00:08:51the polling place here in Cristoma, the voter was
00:08:54taken to the electoral office to receive a sample that
00:08:58would avoid a criminal process, however, he did not
00:09:01accept this proposal because he understood that he did not commit this
00:09:05crime of boca de urna, so this is a situation that will be taken
00:09:08to the Public Ministry of Santa Catarina to give the due
00:09:12alignments, at this moment I am speaking in front of the
00:09:16Lapajece school which has the largest college
00:09:19of intense communication of
00:09:23voters and very long queues
00:09:26here, we will of course continue to follow, I
00:09:29will be back, all right, Raquel, thanks for the information,
00:09:33great work there, now we're going with live images,
00:09:36precisely from Santa Catarina, but in Florianópolis via
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00:13:08We are back now to talk about the electoral observation
00:13:11missions that were accredited by the electoral justice. They
00:13:15accompanied the voting during the day here in São Paulo.
00:13:18Eládio Loisaga, former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Paraguay and
00:13:22representatives of the Organization of American States. They checked the
00:13:26work of the integrity test that takes place at the Cultural
00:13:29Center, São Paulo during voting hours. Eládio also
00:13:33visited polling stations in the Consolação neighborhood at Presbiteria University in
00:13:36Mackenzie. Judge José
00:13:39Antônio, teaching Manfred, president of the Regional Electoral Court
00:13:43of São Paulo, also visited Mackenzie and stated that everything was proceeding
00:13:47peacefully and that the elections would take place in the most
00:13:50satisfactory way possible. The idea of the
00:13:54electoral observation missions is to allow
00:13:57specialists to evaluate the functioning of the electronic
00:14:00voting system. And voting in Israel has
00:14:04already been finalized and abstention reached 78%.
00:14:06The information is from reporter Vitor La
00:14:10Regina.
00:14:13Here in Israel, voting was held in a single location, the Brazilian
00:14:17embassy in Tel Aviv. There are nine polling stations for
00:14:203,442 eligible voters, an increase of
00:14:2421% compared to 2022. Voting
00:14:28ended at 5 pm local time, 11 am, according
00:14:31to Brasília time. According to the results released, abstention
00:14:35here reached 78%.
00:14:38730 voters voted this Sunday in
00:14:41Tel Aviv. It is important to note that Sunday is a working
00:14:44day in Israel. The ballot box bulletins were released just now.
00:14:48The candidate Flávio Bolsonaro of the PL received
00:14:5174% of the votes. Lula of the PT
00:14:55had 13%. Ronaldo Caiado, Augusto Curi and Renan
00:14:58Santos each had about 3% of the
00:15:02votes. Look, now at
00:15:054:14,
00:15:07there's less than an hour left for voting to end,
00:15:11for the counting to begin, we actually see the votes appearing. I
00:15:15wanted to address with you the issue of polls, right?
00:15:18If these results that we will start to follow in a little while, they are
00:15:22different from what the polls showed. How can we
00:15:25interpret this, Bruno, could it be a last-minute change in the
00:15:29voter's vote or are there other factors that can explain
00:15:33these changes? Look Renata, this question of yours is very important,
00:15:36because people need
00:15:40to understand that opinion polls are not
00:15:43ballot box results, people need to understand this, because otherwise
00:15:47it discredits a science. Research is a
00:15:50science that helps to make decisions, it helps to
00:15:54see the scenario, it helps the electorate
00:15:58to understand what is happening in the country at that particular moment,
00:16:02but you see, for example, an opinion poll that came out
00:16:06recently, yesterday or the day before yesterday, and that... spontaneously, many
00:16:09voters still don't know who to vote for, there can be a big
00:16:13difference at the time of voting at the ballot box, right, we have to
00:16:16stop this, because if it were to be right, if polls were to get the
00:16:20ballot box result right, it would be easier for us to cancel the election, do a
00:16:24single poll, whatever came out would give the result,
00:16:27it would be much cheaper for the TSE than to conduct a whole
00:16:30electoral process, so the fact is
00:16:33research is a is just
00:16:36a... tool for us to understand trends,
00:16:40movements, where the vote is going, where it is not going, so
00:16:44there's a big chance that when the ballot box is opened, it won't have the same number,
00:16:47but I just want to give you a fact, right, despite saying
00:16:51all this to you, there's another important thing, more than
00:16:5590% of the time the
00:16:58poll result reflects the ballot
00:17:01box result, more than 90% of the time, there are times when it won't
00:17:05happen due to an infinity. of factors that could
00:17:08be abstention, it could be a last-minute change,
00:17:12remember, for example, the campaign for mayor of São Paulo where on the last
00:17:15day a false report came out from one candidate against another,
00:17:19how would an opinion poll capture such an effect or in the
00:17:23case of the last election for governor, there was the death
00:17:26of the husband of a candidate for governor on
00:17:30election day which completely modified
00:17:33the perception of the population at that moment, research is a
00:17:37science... it brings exact results, but election is human and
00:17:40human behavior will not have any research that will be able to
00:17:43pinpoint this behavior.
00:17:46Isabele? no, the polls once had a
00:17:49statistician give me a definition that I think is interesting, a poll is a
00:17:53static photograph of the moment that you try to
00:17:56guess the end of the movie which is dynamic, so the chance of error is
00:18:00in this process, you are taking a photo of that instant, but the end of the movie
00:18:04will only happen today, on election day. So what I
00:18:08like to look at in the polls on the eve, especially those from the last
00:18:11week, are the curves, are the movements, if the curves are
00:18:14consistent then you can infer more or less where the
00:18:18voter's decision process is going, but as Bruno said,
00:18:21with polls with a very high index of undecided voters, until the
00:18:25last week before the first round the chance of error is enormous, especially
00:18:28in state elections, in national ones, I think this
00:18:32year we had a very consolidated picture in the country of two very
00:18:36consistent candidacies from both... camps since the beginning of the electoral
00:18:39campaign with a high index of voting intention, a high index of engagement and
00:18:43an impressive resilience, you didn't see very
00:18:46substantive movements between the two main candidates, so we have more
00:18:50and it's a poll with more accuracy when you have these more
00:18:53solid blocks, but for state government, for example, it's very common for the final
00:18:57decision of the voter to be made from Thursday to Sunday, three or four
00:19:00days before the first round, so the polls on the eve are showing
00:19:04many interesting curves in these state elections. in several units of the
00:19:08federation, now numerically there will always be room for a margin of
00:19:12error even a little larger than the margins scientifically presented by the
00:19:15institutes, but that does not authorize us to discredit
00:19:19the poll here again, a public consultation eh
00:19:22made statically that tries to guess the outcome of a
00:19:26process, the process is dynamic, even today during the day there is a change
00:19:29of sentiment, the voter who votes in the morning is subject to some issues, in the afternoon
00:19:33he may vote already thinking and being impacted by another
00:19:37type of influence, so if the decision-making process is so dynamic,
00:19:41how can you demand that the polls be
00:19:44surgically precise, but they have, as Bruno said, they
00:19:47have had a result very close to reality, especially those on the eve, because they
00:19:51already capture those last-minute movements, I would like to bring
00:19:55up, still about this relationship with polls, some, I don't know if we
00:19:59can say myths or some analyses that often
00:20:02occur, especially when we talk about these elections
00:20:05involving the PT candidate. the candidate eh to the
00:20:09right, eh it is often said that the PT vote always
00:20:13shrinks at the ballot box compared to the poll because there is a lot of
00:20:17abstention among the PT electorate, does this actually
00:20:20happen looking at the history, and
00:20:23also a growing
00:20:26trend in the anti-PT candidate in the final
00:20:29stretch, also often related to the
00:20:32government that is PT, there can be
00:20:35precisely that pull from the third way, who gives up voting for the third way
00:20:39and votes for the opposition with more chances? It's interesting, Gustavo, because
00:20:43in the last election this was the big discussion, right, when the
00:20:46ballot boxes opened and Bolsonaro was closer to Lula.
00:20:50eh, everyone said, no, they made a mistake, they underestimated Bolsonaro,
00:20:54they underestimated Bolsonaro, in the end that's not what
00:20:57happened, if you look numerically, the polls
00:21:01got Bolsonaro's size right, what happened is that
00:21:04they overestimated Lula's size and then comes the
00:21:08case of abstention, abstention directly
00:21:11affects, usually, more the poorer
00:21:15voter, who is a voter who since
00:21:182006 has a...
00:21:20tendency to vote more for Lula's candidates,
00:21:24right, until 2002 the PT vote was not a vote of the poorest,
00:21:27the PT had the middle class vote, after the
00:21:31mensalão episode you have a change of
00:21:35relationship between the
00:21:38middle class became quite disappointed with the
00:21:41PT, ending up abandoning the PT at that moment and the
00:21:45social programs of the Lula government ended up making the
00:21:48PT communicate much more with the
00:21:52lower-class voter, so we have this dynamic and since you have
00:21:55usually more abstention in the lower classes than in the upper
00:21:59classes, it ends up having a little effect within the
00:22:03Lula electorate, let's say, and just a
00:22:06parenthesis that is interesting, right, because if we look at this
00:22:09abandonment of the PT by the middle class, our political
00:22:13field, the PT ends up agglomerating a lot of
00:22:16the left, right, you don't see left-wing parties.
00:22:20at least in the national scenario, managing to attract part of this electorate,
00:22:23unlike the right that ends up having options nowadays, it's more
00:22:26centralized in the PL, but if you look historically the PSDB then suddenly there is the
00:22:30option of the PL, suddenly there was eh eh Bolsonaro, in
00:22:34other words, eh the left-wing candidate who was disappointed
00:22:37with the PT ended up falling eh precisely into the
00:22:40center-right or right in your assessment or not
00:22:44like that, then there were some important milestones for us to understand how this
00:22:47decrease in the progressive field was. in terms of
00:22:50size, eh, I think the main one was the mensalão, there was the mensalão, then we had
00:22:54the lava-jato, right, the petrolão, these scandals they
00:22:58transformed mainly the electorate of the center, south, southeast of the
00:23:01country, into a very anti-PT electorate, anti-PTism today
00:23:05is perhaps the main political force from Brasília downwards, eh, President
00:23:09Lula managed to escape eh this concept of anti-PTism
00:23:13in 22, because there was there, in the view of that voter who
00:23:16opted for President Lula, a greater evil to be fought, which was the Bolsonaro
00:23:20government post-pandemic, with many memories of the pandemic. Lula
00:23:23managed to reinvent himself, form a broad front, bringing Geraldo
00:23:27Alckmin, who was a figure of center-right to compose his
00:23:30ticket, eh, and managed at that moment to convince most of the electorate that
00:23:34he was an alternative to Bolsonaro, who had some risk, in the
00:23:37evaluation of these voters, for democracy and also for public
00:23:40health. Eh, if we go back
00:23:44difficulty that President Lula had in composing his platforms in the main electoral
00:23:48colleges of the country, in Rio de Janeiro he. supports Eduardo Pais who is from the
00:23:51PSD, in Minas he has a candidate with 20-something percentage points
00:23:54who is Patrus, in São Paulo he launched minister Haddad with the expectation
00:23:58of a good performance and will end the election apparently with a result below what
00:24:02he had in 2022 eh, so and this electorate in the
00:24:06most populous regions of the country, it is very refractory
00:24:10to the PT and the parties that made up, that were auxiliaries
00:24:13of this coalition that was led by President Lula in the past, they
00:24:17are today from the center to the right, if we are to look... President Lula's ticket
00:24:21in 2002 and 2006 was with the PL that
00:24:24today is with Bolsonaro right, so he he gave up
00:24:28this more pragmatic center, aligned now to return to power
00:24:32with left-wing parties like the PSD, PSB,
00:24:35sorry, which is today the main partner of the president, including having
00:24:38Geraldo Alckmin as vice, several regional alliances in Pernambuco,
00:24:42João Campos candidate of the PSB, but the difficulty I see today is the
00:24:45expansion, right, of President Lula's allies, he cannot
00:24:49make parties, for example, from the center to the right, which was a very
00:24:53important characteristic of President Lula's project in the first and second
00:24:56term. Let's go now, then, to Rio de Janeiro, to talk
00:25:00with reporter Rael Policarpo who is there in front
00:25:03of the largest polling place in the state.
00:25:07Rael, good afternoon over there, how has the
00:25:11election been? We talked about some cities suffering from storms
00:25:14there, from what we can see, a lot of heat,
00:25:18I imagine.
00:25:22It's true, Gustavo, good afternoon to you, good afternoon to everyone who follows the
00:25:252026 elections here on Record News, yesterday it rained
00:25:29a lot here in Rio de Janeiro, but today heaven blessed us with a wonderful
00:25:32day, the situation now, right, it's almost
00:25:364:30, there's little more than 35 minutes left until the gates
00:25:40close, right, in the entire state of Rio de Janeiro and obviously in all of
00:25:44Brazil, in the morning it was a little more complicated because according to the
00:25:47TRE, many voters eh.
00:25:50anticipated their vote, wanted to advance, so the lines
00:25:53were gigantic, but now as we can see here
00:25:57in what is the largest polling place in Rio de Janeiro, just
00:26:01here there are more than 13,000 registered voters to
00:26:04vote, the situation is calm, in Rio
00:26:07de Janeiro all, according to the TRE that just held a
00:26:10press conference, Judge eh Marcelo Rubiolo who gave this
00:26:14press conference there at the TRE, there are
00:26:1712,857
00:26:19thousand eligible voters here in Rio de Janeiro, the
00:26:22perspective, right, is that many voters will really
00:26:26turn out to the polls this Sunday,
00:26:28in this election, in this first-round vote, according to the
00:26:32TRE itself, Gustavo Renato, the elections are happening with
00:26:36normality, a little more than 130 ballot boxes were
00:26:39replaced, but this does not mean even
00:26:410.4% of all ballot boxes in the state, it is also within
00:26:45normality, some occurrences are being
00:26:48investigated, according to the TRE, four people were
00:26:52arrested for eh illegal campaigning, there are still
00:26:55occurrences regarding vote buying, mainly in municipalities of the
00:26:59Baixada Fluminense and also interference from... but both
00:27:02vote buying and interference from
00:27:05militias are still under
00:27:08investigation, look here, people who
00:27:11left it for the end are coming now to vote, but here
00:27:14at this point that was very
00:27:17busy in the morning, now Gustavo Renata, it's very calm,
00:27:21back to the studio, 2026
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