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00:00:18Good evening, it's 10 p.m. on the east coast, I'm Olivia Flynn, and here are the stories we're
00:00:22following tonight. First, breaking tonight, the US Senate just passed
00:00:26a sweeping new sanctions bill targeting Russia, we'll break it all.
00:00:31down, plus, they're not just catching
00:00:33of criminals, they're tracking your every movement. Tonight, why some Americans say flot
00:00:37cameras have gone too far?
00:00:41And finally, Beijing unleashes a new wave of trade retaliation
00:00:45against the United States. Is this the start of much bigger economic war?
00:00:49We'll find out. On this show, we know that you don't need more content, you
00:00:53need context. Anyone can tell you what's happening in the news. Tonight we hope to help you
00:00:56understand why it's happening, how it's happening, and how
00:00:59of it affects. This is America
00:01:01now.
00:01:11We start this evening with breaking news out of Washington DC. The US senate has
00:01:15passed yet another round of sanctions on Russia
00:01:18in a vote of 86 to 11. The legislation was the pet project of
00:01:22recently deceased senator and known warhawk lensy Gram of South
00:01:26Carolina,
00:01:27and the legislation would punish countries which byy. and fossil fuels
00:01:30in an effort to deprive Russia of
00:01:32of revenues. President Trump would now be able to impose tariffs on countries like
00:01:36India or China if they continue to import Russian gas or
00:01:40oil, and the bill must
00:01:41of now pass the House of Representatives, which will reconvene after
00:01:45a recess at the end of August.
00:01:49Joining us now to discuss all this, we have former Pentagon
00:01:52a of official Michael Maluf. Michael, thank you for being back with us tonight.
00:01:55Sure. So, will these sanctions
00:01:58in your estimation past the house and become
00:02:02effective before the end
00:02:05en of the year? the indication is it's going to pass the house and the
00:02:09president said he's going to sign it. now
00:02:11me that just gives him the authority, whether he actually implements it
00:02:15me or not, it's going to be something else, but but I think
00:02:19it will have tendency to really really backfire. this was meant to
00:02:23be more of a proforma type of
00:02:26memorial if you will to gram, but I think uh in...
00:02:30reality, the the use
00:02:33of the of this
00:02:34of legislation de if if he signs it will could be could really
00:02:38backfire on the United States in many ways, and
00:02:42do you think these sanctions will alter the course
00:02:45of the war if it continues? oh
00:02:48not
00:02:50of at all, Vladimir Putin is well on his way
00:02:54to uh
00:02:56uh taking out taking out key, he's he's he's definitely...
00:03:00picked up uh the tempo uh considerably in in
00:03:04uh in hitting military sites and um
00:03:07and he becomes even more enraged every
00:03:11time keive decides to hit the civilian
00:03:15uh locations such as they just did in yalta
00:03:19a uh in
00:03:21in a beach resort totally
00:03:24civilian no absolutely
00:03:28of no um uh military. very objective
00:03:31there whatsoever, and I think that Keeve is is
00:03:35resorting to going out to Syveines now as a policy,
00:03:39because they know they've lost the
00:03:42of of war,
00:03:42and do you think this is the Congress's way of putting pressure on
00:03:46Donald Trump to continue supplying weapons to Ukraine as opposed
00:03:50to seeking path to peace?
00:03:54there's some element of that, sure, but uh, it it also
00:03:58is to, it's also meant to say: Iran
00:04:01too, and again these countries have
00:04:04become so sanctioned that there's nothing to
00:04:08sanction, the legislation also sanctions Vladimir
00:04:12Putin himself and is and and the upper echelon, but
00:04:15they've also also all been sanctioned, so again the
00:04:19en effectiveness of what
00:04:20en is being passed
00:04:22of is more proforma
00:04:23I think than substantive,
00:04:25and and if he wants
00:04:29to... put up to 100%
00:04:32tariffs on countries such as India and China as you point
00:04:36out,
00:04:36you know China and
00:04:37lo all the other countries can reciprocate very very
00:04:39of easily. We we have a multiolar world here now, we don't have a
00:04:43of unipolar world and we're not in full control of things any
00:04:47longer, and these countries have have become sanction
00:04:51proof for the most part because of all the years of
00:04:54weaponization
00:04:55of the dollar and and the sanctions that we've that have been imposed on them, and
00:04:59that's... why you see the rise of bricks, you're seeing the
00:05:03SCO, the Shanghai cooperation organization now
00:05:07becoming much much larger
00:05:09of and more influential through. the
00:05:12world and when you consider their collective gdp, it's greater
00:05:16than uh the G20, which is
00:05:19astounding, and they and they represent more than half the
00:05:23world population, so we in effect are isolating
00:05:27ourselves by by our actions and and these countries
00:05:31are going to go, steam ahead, they don't care, they
00:05:35can, we can launch all kinds of sanctions, but they can do
00:05:39the same thing, and and deprive us of some very,
00:05:42very critical uh, mineral rights, for example, rare earths
00:05:46and and and politically, it could be very,
00:05:50very detrimental if you want to get anything done. well, Michael Molove,
00:05:54that's all the time we have tonight, but thank you for kicking off for 8 p.m. we'll talk to you soon, thank
00:05:58you. my pleasure, thank
00:06:00you. there are cameras watching you
00:06:04drive all across America, you probably don't notice them, you probably never agreed
00:06:08to them, and you don't have to be suspected of a crime for them to photograph.
00:06:12car, they're called flot cameras, automatic license plate readers used by
00:06:16police departments and communities across the country, and right
00:06:20now, they are at the center of a growing fight over just how much surveillance
00:06:24Americans are willing to accept in the name of public safety, because
00:06:27these cameras don't just look for a stolen car, they can create
00:06:31searchable record of where cars have been and when, and some
00:06:35recent cases are raising much bigger question: what happens when
00:06:38technology, designed to find criminals, starts being used to track people. who
00:06:42aren't criminals at all? flock safety sells automated license flate
00:06:46recognition cameras that capture information about vehicles traveling
00:06:50past them. the company says its technology helps law enforcement, solve
00:06:53crimes, recover stolen vehicles and find missing or endangered people.
00:06:57but unlike a traditional police investigation, where officers might begin with
00:07:01suspect and then track that person's movements, flot cameras can collect
00:07:05information about vehicles passing them first, creating a
00:07:08database that can potentially be searched later, and then that...
00:07:12distinction is fueling controversy, because critics say we're moving from we
00:07:16have suspect, let's find the car, to we have millions of cars, let's
00:07:20search the database. it's almost like you're creating a suspect. and look at
00:07:24what's happening right now. this week, 404 media reported a
00:07:27Wisconsin case involving a man who traveled across state lines to Michigan,
00:07:31where recreational marijuana is legal. according to the report, police used flock
00:07:35data showing his vehicle had repeatedly traveled to Michigan while
00:07:39developing the justification to stop and search. his
00:07:42car, think about that, it's almost like they're building case about the president
00:07:46critics are worried about here, you legally drive from one state into
00:07:50another, your license plate gets photographed along the way, you legally
00:07:54visit somewhere, you drive home, and now that travel history can
00:07:57potentially become information law enforcement uses to investigate you,
00:08:01and Wisconsin isn't the only case drawing attention. civil liberties
00:08:05advocates have also raised alarms over a Texas
00:08:08investigation in which flock data was reportedly used to identify
00:08:12and track vehicle connected to woman suspected of obtaining a
00:08:15self-administered abortion, and that case became especially
00:08:19controversial, because abortion laws can change dramatically the moment you cross a
00:08:23state line, so can marijuana laws, gun laws, and potentially a whole list
00:08:27of other activities, and that creates a problem that didn't really
00:08:31exist on this scale before. something can be completely legal where you
00:08:35go, while technology creates a permanent trail that follows you home,
00:08:39and then there's another part the story that really got attention, listen to how
00:08:43flock CEO, Garret Langley has talked about surveillance and human
00:08:47behavior. If we look at our kids as a
00:08:51proxy, like the level of punishment other and time out for five
00:08:54minutes or an hour doesn't matter to five-year-old, they they they do something buse they
00:08:58think they're going to get away with it, and as soon as they find out that as a parent you you know
00:09:02have all seeing eyes, they stop doing bad things
00:09:05and the
00:09:07the punishment has nothing to do with it, and maybe it's unfair
00:09:10to to call adult a five-year-old, but that's generally. our brain works, we operate a booleion
00:09:14equation of like, I get away with this, so I do it, if I don't think I get away with it, I
00:09:18don't do it. Okay, now that is where this becomes
00:09:21bigger than license plates, because there's an enormous difference between using
00:09:25surveillance to catch someone who committed a crime and using surveillance
00:09:29because the knowledge that you're being watched might change how you
00:09:32behave. One is investigation, and the other starts getting into
00:09:36deterents, and critics would argue social control, and the
00:09:40backlash is growing. According to Washington and... examiner since the beginning of
00:09:432026, roughly 23 city councils have voted to
00:09:47cancel, reject, deactivate or not renew flock license
00:09:51plate-reader programs. residents and privacy advocates have raised concerns
00:09:55about mass surveillance, fourth amendment protections and information being
00:09:59shared between law enforcement and agencies and another investigation from
00:10:03404 media added fuel to the fire. the outler reported
00:10:07obtaining police guidance, instructing officers. according to the
00:10:10report, officers were advised in certain circumstances, not to
00:10:14tell drivers that automatic license plate reader information contributed to the
00:10:18stop, and to avoid explicitly mentioning the
00:10:21technology on reports in less necessary. so now
00:10:25the controversy isn't only who's being tracked, it's also do people
00:10:29even know how they're being tracked, because when
00:10:33i went down another rabbit hole, while everyone is talking
00:10:37about the cameras themselves, take a look at who's investing in this
00:10:40industry. one of flock's biggest investors is venture capital firm
00:10:44Anderson Horowittz, better known as A16Z. The firm led
00:10:47a major funding round for Flock, but Flock isn't the only
00:10:51surveillance-related technology company Anderson Horwitz has backed.
00:10:55They've also invested in a company called Toka, and this technology is
00:10:59very different. Toca is an Israeli cyber intelligence company,
00:11:03and according to reporting about the company's technology, Toca has
00:11:06developed tools designed to infiltrate internet-connected devices,
00:11:10including security cameras. Reported capabilities have included
00:11:14locating vulnerable cameras, accessing their feeds and
00:11:17manipulating video, and that can reportedly include altering live feeds
00:11:21and modifying or deleting previous recorded footage. Some
00:11:25reporting has also described tools designed to operate without leaving the
00:11:29kinds of obvious digital traces normally associated with
00:11:32unauthorized access, so in other words, in basic English,
00:11:36Flock is building technology capable of helping authorities find and
00:11:40track vehicles. Toca has reportedly developed technology capable
00:11:44of accessing and manipulating cameras, and the same major
00:11:48venture capital firm has invested in both companies. Now I want to be very
00:11:52clear here because this distinction matters, there's no evidence. Toka is hacking
00:11:56flock cameras. There is no evidence that flock footage is being secretly altered
00:12:00by Toka, and sharing investor does not mean these two companies are
00:12:03working together, but the connection is worth understanding because it shows you
00:12:07where surveillance technology itself is going. We're moving into
00:12:11a world where one set of technology can
00:12:15potentially reconstruct where you've traveled, another can identify
00:12:18vehicles automatically. Another can access cameras remotely and another
00:12:22can manipulate what those cameras see. Individually, if we look at
00:12:26it that way, each tool may have legitimate law enforcement or national
00:12:30security purpose, but connect enough of those capabilities
00:12:34together, and suddenly the question isn't whether technology can track nearly everything we
00:12:37do, it's who gets access to that power and what rules
00:12:41stop them from abusing it, and that's ultimately why this
00:12:45fight over flock matters. Nobody's arguing that police shouldn't be able
00:12:49to find a kidnapped child or locate a stolen vehicle or identify a
00:12:52dangerous suspect, it probably be amazing to... those scenarios. Those are
00:12:56exactly the kinds of cases that make this technology incredibly
00:13:00powerful. The debate is about what happens after the cameras are already
00:13:03everywhere. Who can search the database? What qualifies as legitimate
00:13:07search? How long is that information stored? Can another police
00:13:11department access it? There's all these questions, and can your movements be
00:13:15searched even when you were never suspected of committing a
00:13:19crime? And perhaps the most important one, do you even know what's happening?
00:13:23Because America has had surveillance. cameras for decades, what's changing now isn't
00:13:27necessarily the camera, it's the database behind it, camera a street corner
00:13:31sees one moment, a network of cameras connected to searchable software
00:13:35can potentially tell story about where you went, when you
00:13:39went there and when you went next, and once that infrastructure
00:13:43exits, we're not just deciding how it should be used, we're
00:13:46deciding how much power we're comfortable giving whoever has access to
00:13:50it tomorrow, because the real privacy question may no longer be, are you doing
00:13:54anything wrong? It may be should the government be able to know
00:13:58everywhere you've been and when you
00:14:00haven't? joining us now we have Conor Boyak
00:14:04joining us on the show, he is the president the libertas Institute. Conor thank you
00:14:08so much for joining us tonight. Thanks for having me. So let's talk
00:14:12about Flock. For people who have never heard of flock cameras, what
00:14:15exactly are they, what are they collecting, and how is that different from
00:14:19a traditional license plate reader? Yeah, so
00:14:23license plate readers have been around. for years uh observing the as
00:14:27they're called the license plates of cars as they pass by, they're used for
00:14:31traffic control, finding cars that have been stolen and so forth.
00:14:35what flock cameras are are a sort of new evolution beyond
00:14:39those that uh can capture not only the license plate, but also what
00:14:43bumper stickers are there, are there decals, what is the make and
00:14:47model the car, what color is it, and they're attempting to create more of
00:14:50fingerprint of a car beyond just the license plate, because license plates can be
00:14:54switched. out or moved or blurred, and so this is giving law enforcement new
00:14:58capabilities to track people as they're moving throughout
00:15:02town compared to the traditional models the past. more
00:15:05worrisome, they're creating massive databases the movements
00:15:09of American people where law enforcement officers without a warrant
00:15:13can go effectively a fishing expedition to find out any time, where has
00:15:17connor ben or where has Olivia been and tracking our movements and our
00:15:20cars, that new power that the government has is what's worrying so many people
00:15:24lately. And right off that point, I want to talk about like where the line is
00:15:28crossed here, because supporters say these cameras help police find stolen
00:15:32cars, wanted suspects and missing people, but at what point does a
00:15:35public safety tool like this one? cross the line into mass
00:15:38surveillance? well, there's no question that empowering the law
00:15:42enforcement with surveillance capabilities can help them solve crimes, like we
00:15:46can concede that argument at the outset, living a total surveillance state,
00:15:50yes we would solve more crimes, but obviously there's a trade-off to be
00:15:54had, and the question is to what extent is surveillance appropriate.
00:15:58now, in our estimation, the the conversation has been had, we've
00:16:02already found that balance, and it's the fourth amendment. the founders who drafted
00:16:05that were very concerned with what the british were doing with what were called rits
00:16:09of assistance or general warrants where they could empower themselves to go
00:16:13search through your home any time, for no reason, without any
00:16:17oversight, and so when they enacted the fourth amendment they said, look, we want there to
00:16:21be particularity, in other words, we need to individually suspect
00:16:25Olivia of a crime if we're going to invade Olivia's privacy or monitor her
00:16:28whereabouts, rather than a general suspicion of maybe there's crime somewhere
00:16:32out there, we need to individually suspect uh criminal
00:16:36conduct on the part the... person whose privacy we are going to
00:16:39invade, we need to have probable cause, in other words, we need to suspect
00:16:43that there and have reason to believe there is a crime being conducted, and most
00:16:47importantly, we need to have judicial review, we need to have a
00:16:51warrant that a dispassionate judge can review and say is this
00:16:55appropriate, but that's not what's happening with flock, it's a huge database, cops are
00:16:59searching through it without any warrant, without any judicial review and without
00:17:02any particularity of suspecting anyone of actually committing a
00:17:06crime, well let's not... suspect Olivia of a crime, but on the topic of
00:17:09allegations though, one the most controversial allegations is that officers
00:17:13are being instructed not to mention flock or ALPR use
00:17:17to drivers, and sometimes not even in police reports unless it's necessary, they
00:17:21say, so why is that such serious transparency
00:17:24issue? well, that's an issue because criminal defense attorneys
00:17:28who on behalf their clients want to help challenge these cases may not know where
00:17:32the data is originating from, and and so what's happening is
00:17:36law enforcement agent. Who take this road, they don't want this challenged in court,
00:17:40they don't want things uh to be transparently
00:17:44seen, because if they are, then city counselors, mayors,
00:17:47legislators, judges and juries might begin to overturn this use, they
00:17:51prefer to quietly use it as they have been for a long time, and we should note here that
00:17:55this is not new with flock, law enforcement officers generally across the
00:17:58country tend to adopt new tools and new technologies
00:18:02far faster than legislatures and courts can keep up
00:18:06and are even aware of... them or can put policies around them. Floc is just the
00:18:10latest and a long line of new technologies that law enforcement officers adopt
00:18:14because they say this can help us uh with our jobs. The reality is the way
00:18:18the founders set up law enforcement under the fourth amendment,
00:18:21it is not to make law enforcement easy, it is to make law enforcement difficult
00:18:25because the balancing test has to weigh in favor the individual rights of
00:18:29innocent Americans. And I want to talk about that interference part of it, because
00:18:32if police use a flock alert to identify a vehicle, but then describe
00:18:36that stop. is coming from another source, could that make it harder
00:18:40for say defendants and their attorneys to then challenge how the
00:18:44evidence was obtained in that scenario?
00:18:48i think the short answer is yes, we're definitely going to see many court
00:18:52battles arising from this, i think people, law enforcement and prosecutors
00:18:55who are trying to bury where their information is come from and not
00:18:59forthrightly disclose that is coming from flock, they're going to make this a little bit
00:19:03more complicated, but the long term of this is that this is absolutely going to be a court b'.
00:19:07and fortunately the Supreme Court in the past few years has had at least a
00:19:11couple cases in which they have significantly cited with uh
00:19:15privacy rights of innocent Americans most recently with the geofence
00:19:19case that also involved monitoring American citizens in this case
00:19:23through their cell phones not their cars so it's likely that on appeal whatever
00:19:27court cases emerge from this uh we would anticipate the Supreme Court
00:19:30consistent with those recent rulings is eventually going to get around to restricting how
00:19:34cameras like Flock or use are used in the... time, however, there's a
00:19:38massive gray area in which law enforcement is just going ahead and using this, and
00:19:42then you've got the vigilantes out there taking matters into their own hands trying to cut these
00:19:46down and and push back. Connor, that's all the time we have tonight, but thank you so
00:19:50much for your time on this and lot to be seen here. Thank
00:19:52you. Beijing has
00:19:56activated one of its largest packages of trade counter measures
00:19:59against Washington, in response to sanctions imposed by Trump on
00:20:03Chinese companies. The new sanctions target multiple American enterprises.
00:20:07restrict robot imports and curb exports of drones and their
00:20:11components. Our corresponding Constantine Rajov has
00:20:14more. The Trade in Tech war between
00:20:18China and the United States has heated up sharply over the
00:20:21past few days. China has now unveiled one of its
00:20:25largest packages of retaliatory measures yet. The move
00:20:29drawing the most attention is Beijing's decision to tighten
00:20:33controls on exports of drone-related components
00:20:36and technology. to the United States. Here's what the official
00:20:40statement from China's Ministry of Commerce says: drone
00:20:44exports to the United States and the export their key components and
00:20:48related technologies listed in the... port control list of dual use items
00:20:51the people's republic of China shall be subject to strict case by case
00:20:55review, expedited licensing procedures and other licensing
00:20:59facilitation measures shall not apply. anyone who has ever
00:21:02flown or even held a DJI drone knows just
00:21:06how dominant China is in the global commercial drone market,
00:21:10though this isn't an outride export ban, it does
00:21:14mean that the Chinese government will now closely
00:21:17scrutinize every drone related. shipment bound
00:21:21for the United States, as part the same package, Beijing
00:21:25has also barred Chinese companies from doing business
00:21:29with seven US firms and launched investigation
00:21:32into U.S. cyber security company, Poloalto
00:21:36networks and the products it sells in China. All
00:21:40of that sends a clear political message. If you hit
00:21:44us, we're going to head back. And just few days ago, the
00:21:47United States announced a new round. their own trade
00:21:51restrictions on China, most notably it banned
00:21:54imports of newly manufactured foreign made
00:21:58humanoid robots and quadriped robots, better known
00:22:02as robot dogs, a market dominated by
00:22:06Chinese manufacturers. The US also dramatically
00:22:09expanded its sanctions list adding 43 Chinese
00:22:13companies over allegations of weager force labor
00:22:17and impose new tariffs of 10. to
00:22:2012.5% on imports from 60
00:22:23trading partners, including China, of course, but the
00:22:27tech and trade fight is only one part
00:22:31the broader tensions that have been simmering between
00:22:35Beijing and Washington over the past few weeks. law makers
00:22:39in the US congress are now anticipating
00:22:42record 4 billion military aid package for
00:22:46Taiwan. Here's what senior Republican Congressman.
00:22:50Michael McColl said during his recent visit to
00:22:53Taip, a trip that was itself bound to
00:22:57irritate Beijing. Last December, Congress signed off on the
00:23:01largest foreign military sales package in history at $11 billion
00:23:05US dollars and we aren't stopping there. I am confident the president
00:23:09will forward soon another package to Congress with additional $14
00:23:13billion in critical military defense articles.
00:23:16Taiwan also has launched major weeklong military.
00:23:20exercises rehearsing a possible conflict with
00:23:23Beijing. One the scenarios involves
00:23:26evacuating the island's leadership in the event of what military
00:23:30planners sometimes call decapitation strike
00:23:33designed to knock out Taiwan's political command.
00:23:37And what a difference few months can make really. I remember
00:23:41covering Donald Trump's visit to Beijing when he and Shijing
00:23:45Ping shook hands
00:23:47uh smiled for the cameras and gave the impression. that both sides
00:23:51were trying to cool tensions and work through their
00:23:55differences, not create new ones. the two leaders are expected
00:23:59to meet again at the end of September, but if tensions
00:24:02keep rising at this pace, both Donald Trump and Xi Jin
00:24:06Ping will have lot of fires to put out when they
00:24:10finally sit down face to
00:24:13face. that's America now, I'm Olivia Flynn, for more stories,
00:24:17visit our website at R2.com and join us every night at 7 8 9 and
00:24:2110. Thank you for watching and have a good night and remember, question
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00:26:44i'll look forward to talking to you all, that
00:26:48technology should work for people, robot
00:26:51must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders with
00:26:55conflict with the first law, show your identification, we should be very careful about
00:26:59artificial intelligence, the point obviously is to create
00:27:03uh trust uh rather than fear.
00:27:07I would like to take on various jobs and with artificial intelligence we are
00:27:11summoning the
00:27:12demon.
00:27:19A robot must protect its own existence is
00:27:22own existence.
00:27:32the deporte asked to hide his face and change his voice
00:27:36because he fears reprisals from the cartel he was forced to
00:27:40join after being deported to
00:27:42mexico.
00:27:46llegó una persona y me ofreció el cruce que iban a cruzar varias
00:27:50personas ah me la cantó muy bonito me dijo que iba
00:27:54haber muchos dinero que ya tenemos trabajo segurado nos
00:27:57fuimos por el desierto 3
00:28:01días. dos noches y llegamos
00:28:04allá, ahí me agarraron en en san diego la home deep, yo
00:28:08estaba trabajando delbañil, me confié un día, estaba en el
00:28:12estacionamiento, pues agarró bord
00:28:15patrol, ah agarraron y
00:28:18pum para tijuana, mi vida se quedó ya, allá tengo mi
00:28:22esposa, dejé mi carro igual no estaba
00:28:26mi nombre, igual pues no me lo pude traer, dejé
00:28:28dinero, y pues...
00:28:33Después la deportación, pues aquí estoy en
00:28:36Tijuana, qué más me queda, más que aferrarme la vida
00:28:39eh, me tuve que meter prácticamente a
00:28:43situaciones ilícitas donde me podrían palar más
00:28:45rápido.
00:28:51Me metí la droga, ah, empecé a
00:28:54consumir marihuana, eh, de ahí me fui al
00:28:58cristal, me empecé a ser dueño de mis tienditas,
00:29:02empecé. distribuírle a las demás personas, si yo,
00:29:06yo no puedo dejar este trabajo, porque si yo dejo este trabajo,
00:29:10las personas que están conmigo me pueden buscar
00:29:13y me matan a mí a la parte de familia
00:29:17que tengo aquí, si van andar esto,
00:29:21asegúrense de que el único camino que les
00:29:24espera o es muerte o es la cárcel, yo no conozco
00:29:28a una persona vieja que haya trabajado en el... esté
00:29:32trabajando en el narco, tal vez los cabecillas, la
00:29:36gente de mero arriba, pero todos los que somos
00:29:39trabajadores, the
00:29:42cartels has the control the borders and now the
00:29:46migration is the uh good business for them,
00:29:50when they discover that they decide to have the border
00:29:54of not only Tijuana, another borders, not only for
00:29:58the cost or maybe um to cross
00:30:02because
00:30:13Precisamente ah, yo crucé al otro
00:30:17lado cargado de droga, pero hubo gente que no cruzaba, que la
00:30:21agarraban la línea, no la línea la agarraban en el desierto a
00:30:24esa gente que agarraron en el desierto eh pues
00:30:28usan los narcos se lo llevan, ya sea para trabajar o para.
00:30:37Ya estando dentro del negocio, tienes que hacerle que sea, si el patrón te
00:30:41dice
00:30:42mata ese, tienes que matarlo, nosotros no
00:30:44investigamos, no investigamos quien sea, si
00:30:48estorba el patrón tenemos que hacer el trabajo, si no lo
00:30:52hacemos nosotros le estaríamos estorbando al patrón, no le serviríamos para
00:30:56nada.