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00:00:00a continent of opportunity, equality and progress
00:00:04for every child, woman and man.
00:00:07of this is our
00:00:09of Africa, and the future is in our
00:00:12hands.
00:00:27Russia closes all of its beaches in the resort.
00:00:31as active air
00:00:32of defense operations counter drone threats to the area, earlier
00:00:36Ukrainian attack on the black
00:00:37of sea coastline killed eight civilians, also
00:00:41distressing images
00:00:42me ahead,
00:00:49of
00:00:51of a no safe space left in Ukraine,
00:00:55Kiyev's mobilization enforces brutally assault a
00:00:58teenager
00:00:59in a... beating his girlfriend as they drag the
00:01:0219-year-old out of a stopped
00:01:05of vehicle and Tucker Carlson launches his 10-point
00:01:09vision for America promising to break the traditional two-party strangle
00:01:13hold on US
00:01:14of politics. Our panel of guests ways in on whether the shift is
00:01:18actually feasible. Are people
00:01:21of willing to actually put in the work that goes
00:01:24of beyond the money. Populism is the name
00:01:26of the game at this point. We see populist and insurgent candidates.
00:01:30and political movements all throughout the world, especially uh in the
00:01:33west. the two main parties, the Republicans and Democrats were virtually
00:01:37identical in many, many
00:01:38ways.
00:01:53here on RT air defense operations to counter Ukrainian
00:01:57drone threats are currently active in Russia's south. Beaches
00:02:01across popular resort towns like Gallinjik, Kabardinka and
00:02:04Divn Morscoya have been closed, according to local
00:02:07official. Well, that's as last week, a Ukrainian
00:02:11drone hit a packed tourist beach in gelenjek, killing eight
00:02:15people, half
00:02:16of of them children. Witnesses
00:02:18of the attack pointed out there were no military installations
00:02:21nearby. Well, meanwhile, Moscow's
00:02:24forces have taken control
00:02:26of the settlement of Ivanovka in Ukraine's Harkov region according.
00:02:30to defense
00:02:30of ministry report. In the city of Odessa, Russian
00:02:34UAVs struck two dry cargo vessels at sea, which
00:02:38were delivering weapons and military equipment to
00:02:41in Ukrainian ports. Earlier, Russia's Mod confirmed two more
00:02:44naval tankers were destroyed
00:02:46of in the Black Sea. And overnight, Russia's armed
00:02:50forces carried out massive strikes on military enterprises in
00:02:54a the Ukrainian capital. The group strike was launched with
00:02:57ground-based high precision weapons. The Firepoint
00:03:00industrial facility which builds components and warheads for Ukraine's
00:03:04Flamingo ground-launched
00:03:06of cruise missiles was targeted. Meanwile,
00:03:10Ukraine's brutal conscription campaign has
00:03:12of reached new lows. In Odessa, teenager was beaten and dragged
00:03:16out of taxi by local recruitment officers depite
00:03:20of despite his girlfriend's attempts to save him from Kiev's forced
00:03:23mobilization.
00:03:50me of
00:04:00of Well Keyevs draconian conscription practices have
00:04:03of sparked outrage across Ukraine, the public
00:04:06of has also spoken out about widespread corruption and other
00:04:09damaging policies the Zelinsky government has adopted. The
00:04:13frustrations were laid bear
00:04:14in a new
00:04:16of sociological poll which RTS Ferita Singotilina breaks
00:04:18down. If there's anything that Ukrainians are more fit up with
00:04:22than drone attacks and
00:04:23of the of war of itself, it's corruption, and that's been confirmed by new
00:04:27poll which shows that over 49%. percent
00:04:30of the population see
00:04:32of graft as the country's biggest hurdle. now one thing to keep in mind
00:04:36is who carried out the survey. sosus, the center
00:04:39responsible for the poll, was founded by a political strategist who
00:04:43worked for years with former pro-western
00:04:45presidentko. while his involvement may cast
00:04:49doubt over the survey's
00:04:51of impartiality, one thing is clear. this
00:04:54of poll does send message. apart from revealing that Kiev's
00:04:57policies such as forced mobilization. are seen as a bigger problem
00:05:01than losing territory to Russia, it shows that the easiest way to
00:05:05hit Zelensky where it hurts is to call out the corruption plaguing his
00:05:09government. Here's a stark reminder that in Ukraine. Seems like
00:05:13everyone wants their cut. Just look at the most recent case: one day you're
00:05:17Ukraine's ambassador in Washington, and the next you're explaining why the
00:05:21apartments, luxury properties, and Mercedes you paid for weren't
00:05:24purchased under your name. Nabu and Sapo reported a
00:05:28suspicion of ilicit enrichment of more than
00:05:30$310,00 and of making false declarations.
00:05:34According to the investigation, the person owned two apartments in the Finer Town
00:05:38residential complex registered to a friend, worth almost 200.
00:05:43The official income the suspect would not allow her to purchase such
00:05:47property. According to Ukraine's national anti-corruption
00:05:50Bureau, Alga Stephanitioner controlled a whole portfolio of
00:05:54high-end assets, many of which were registered to other people.
00:05:58Take for example, the apartment under close friend's name worth
00:06:01around $250,000. Another
00:06:05apartment registered to her mother, parking spaces and several commercial
00:06:09premises in the same residential complex owned on paper by her
00:06:13father, yet when she appeared in court, Stephanisyana said she could
00:06:17not afford bail. I am unable to pay the bail
00:06:21out of my own funds, even if I were to find a way to do so, I would be unable
00:06:25to provide for my family. Another famous case involves a former air
00:06:29force logistics commander Andre Ukrainetz. According to
00:06:33prosecutors, he somehow managed to acquire six apartments, three
00:06:36houses, six plots of land and four cars, all a
00:06:40government salary, and then... Ukrainian investigators found
00:06:44luxury apartments in bal linked the head of a military food
00:06:48supply unit, a low-ranking commander. In fact, the major had
00:06:52purchased luxury properties worth
00:06:53$190,000.
00:06:57Let's get started. You gave us the money, you already did that, forget about it. I'll
00:07:01deal with it now. We want to congratulate you, we really wish you successful
00:07:05investment, and we saved the biggest hall for last
00:07:09in 2025, apparently the hardest challenge for. key
00:07:12officials wasn't stealing cash, it was lifting
00:07:16it. nebu's graft investigation into energy sector bureaucrats
00:07:20brought this recording to light where the suspects complained about hauling
00:07:24around heavy boxes. how did you manage to carry the
00:07:27box to him? well it wasn't that hard. no, what
00:07:31box did he give you? it has a handle like laptop, but wrapped
00:07:35up. that's it. added some stuff to it because took million and gave
00:07:391.6 million in the same box, but carrying... 1.6
00:07:43million, all this way is such a drag. so
00:07:46Ukraine's anti-corruption agency certainly has more than enough
00:07:50its plate, be it the former ambassador to the US or a low-ranking
00:07:54commander, everyone has their own illegal income scheme, and for
00:07:58Ukrainians, it's just another war that can't be
00:08:01won. Iran says it will
00:08:05decide the future of shipping in the straight of hormos as it warns foreign
00:08:08actors to stay out of its negotiations with oman.
00:08:12comes as Washington claims the critical waterway will soon
00:08:16reopen, but passage for American ships is apparently not
00:08:19guaranteed. I think shortly, maybe even
00:08:23today, tomorrow we are going to see see an agreement
00:08:27at 360-day ceasefire and
00:08:31um straight will be open, energy prices should come
00:08:34down. The enemy will be forced to accept Iran's conditions to
00:08:38reopen the straight and must refrain from the interference in the negotiation.
00:08:42currently taking place between Iran, Oman and other countries, which have
00:08:46nearly reached their conclusion. They must accept Iran's
00:08:49conditions. Whenever America accepts Iran's conditions, the straight
00:08:53of Homus will certainly be reopened. We're shipping
00:08:57through the choke point has been onhold for a month after fresh hostilities between
00:09:01Iran and the US saw most traffic frozen. Iranian state
00:09:05media report only eight ships passed through the straight on
00:09:09Friday. Iran says it's... close to reaching a deal
00:09:13with Oman on the legal framework to manage the straight of Hormus,
00:09:17specifically concerning future shipping roots, the new plan is
00:09:21believed to give Toron full control of all maritime activity in the
00:09:24straight. Iranian state media has revealed a number
00:09:28the deal's details citing source in
00:09:31parliament. Well, the document states that
00:09:35entry of US in Israeli ships will be banned as well as vessels from countries
00:09:39with sanctions on Iran. Violators would reportedly be hit with
00:09:43penalties of up to 20% the cargo's value. For
00:09:46its part, the revolutionary guard will decide on tariffs for providing
00:09:50security, something the US vehemently opposes. An Iranian
00:09:54academic says relentless American aggression forced Toron to
00:09:58act. The US is not going to like that, but they have
00:10:02other choice. They can go back to war and they will get
00:10:06hit more. So they need to realize that they are not going
00:10:09to have the this. state of formus used
00:10:13in the manner that they have used it in the past it is a strategic
00:10:17and also Iran has other choice, the United States used a state
00:10:21of formus to attack Iran, they used.
00:10:25of almost to build these bases in the Persian Gulf, it's
00:10:29Iran's right, under
00:10:32the UN charter, article 51, to defend itself
00:10:35when Iran is attacked, and under
00:10:38un conventional law of seas ships that
00:10:42pass through these states are supposed to do innocent passage,
00:10:46and if you are attacking a country, killing it civilians, killing
00:10:49its leaders, attacking its
00:10:53infrastructure, obviously you are not... anything innocent and
00:10:57Iran is going to exercise that right under international
00:11:00law to make sure that US behaves properly and
00:11:04Iran is not endangered
00:11:06by the United States. Well, even as tensions rise over the
00:11:10straight of hormoos, Pakistan's defense ministry has announced that
00:11:13Muslims should unite to face the threat of West
00:11:17Jerusalem. When it comes to Israel, all
00:11:21Muslim countries should come together, there is absolutely no ambiguity.
00:11:25in my mind about that, in my view, there is no room for disagreement on
00:11:28this, and until the issue the Palestinian people is resolved, according
00:11:32to their aspirations, until there is a permanent solution, the issue
00:11:36will remain. well, that comes as Turkia,
00:11:40Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia have signed a joint defense
00:11:44pact. the agreement establishes a collective framework whereby an
00:11:48armed attack any one them will be treated as an attack on
00:11:51all three. signed in Mecca, the document ties
00:12:25Together, the three countries could be a significant combined power,
00:12:29with Pakistan providing nuclear deterrant, Saudi Arabia,
00:12:33financial might, and Turkia, a large battle tested
00:12:36military. The pact could therefore give all sides capabilities, they
00:12:40would struggle to provide on their own. Meanwile, Toron's foreign minister
00:12:44has backed calls for Muslim countries to unite and become
00:12:48stronger. Iran's powerful
00:12:52armed forces have shown their readiness, capability, might in face
00:12:55the world's most expensive military, when Muslims stand
00:12:59together, we can face every challenge by malicious outsiders head on,
00:13:03time to rely only on ourselves and embrace true
00:13:06brotherhood. We can discuss this
00:13:09now live with editor and chief the Islamabad telegraph,
00:13:13Casbar Klas. Casbar, good to have you on the program. You know, for
00:13:16decades, global security has largely been shaped by the US,
00:13:20Russia, and China, and now we have this new pact that combines three
00:13:24prominent nations. in the muslim world, do you think that we're seeing the emergence
00:13:28of new global power
00:13:35pointed out that the three powerful countries the muslim world
00:13:39have joined hand together and as you have just
00:13:42said that attack any one these countries will
00:13:46be pronounced as attack on all the and this is highly
00:13:50significant and let tell you that this is not
00:13:53an a brought decision by the three
00:13:56powers rather they have been deliberating, they have been meeting in
00:14:00the past and for for a couple of years the deliberation has been
00:14:04going on and they just concluded and the timing is really
00:14:08important,
00:14:08you know the Iranian has attacked the territory a
00:14:12couple of times in followed by the US Iran war and also
00:14:16same in the condition that how these have fired misals on
00:14:20on the territory of you know Saudi Arabia as well Saudi Arabia is
00:14:24the "it the center the Muslim world timing
00:14:27and so is really important I think this is really one the
00:14:31best decision that the three countries had taken
00:14:35and apart that apart from that the most
00:14:38important most significant you know the
00:14:42statement has just come from the secretary of organization
00:14:46of Islamic countries not only they spotted it but also
00:14:50they endorsed it I think this is the right time that the Muslim
00:14:53world is" going to unite against common threat
00:14:57and definitely not the Saudi Arabia, not Pakistan in Turkey
00:15:01but Muslim world will be the beneficialy of this agreement
00:15:05and you know Turkey is is the member of
00:15:09NATO, Pakistan is the America you know
00:15:13the Muslims only nuclear power and has one
00:15:16the power most powerful
00:15:19military and also it's economic power when it comes to
00:15:23discuss Saudi Arabia. so I think this
00:15:26patter is not only going to benefit the three but also it is
00:15:30going to beneficial for the entire Muslim world as well
00:15:34so there's been no official reaction yet from W
00:15:37Jerusalem, but in February the former Israeli prime minister and of taliben
00:15:41accused Turkey of trying to create a quote hostile sunni
00:15:44access with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, in light of
00:15:48this pact that's now been signed, how justified do you think his claims
00:15:52are? well yes, very good
00:15:55question and when it come to discuss the the
00:15:59brotherhood and the you know the cooperation
00:16:03bet Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, they have been
00:16:06brotherly the... have been cooperating in the since
00:16:101947 the the time Pakistan came into being
00:16:13and it's Saudi Arabia has stand up with the
00:16:17Pakistani side whenever needed let tell you and
00:16:21the same is the condition when we talk about Turkish and Saudi
00:16:24Arabia relationship let me draw your attention to the
00:16:28one the biggest deal that happened between the two countries in
00:16:322023 Saudi Arabia important
00:16:36sophisticated drawn t technology, drones and and and
00:16:39sophisticated weapons from from
00:16:42Turkia in 2023, that was actually the point
00:16:46when the two side peak their bilateral
00:16:49relationship, so I believe
00:16:51it is something
00:16:53this packet, trilateral packet is something that has
00:16:56translated from the bilateral relationship to the trilateral
00:17:00relationship and and I am getting some
00:17:04insight from my source not only Islamabad and from
00:17:08riyad as well that there is a consent
00:17:11that this pact will attract some other
00:17:15nations as well and yeah you are rightly pointed
00:17:18out some the powerful western countries
00:17:22have been
00:17:24you know raising finger on on this fact as well but one thing is very
00:17:27interesting let tell you that Pakistan inj
00:17:31relationship with with Trump administration same is the
00:17:35condition with the Turkey as well but was
00:17:39received with with with you know open rounds by the
00:17:42trump administration as well and they are selling up 35 st
00:17:46aircraft to turkey as well so they have good
00:17:49relationship with with the trump administration as well and
00:17:53united states is you know the power when it
00:17:57come to the discuss the western power as well so this
00:18:00try lateral this strika this pact mecca pact is
00:18:04actually have been endorsed long. a time
00:18:08ago, it has been endorsed by the Trump administration as
00:18:12well, all the three countries are actually very close to Trump
00:18:16administration as well, this is how this is
00:18:20you know why the the
00:18:23the you know the negative point from the western
00:18:27world is not taken into consideration by the
00:18:31Trump administration as well, so this is just the beginning, I think
00:18:34this macca pact is not only
00:18:37acceptable by the Trump administration
00:18:40but also later on more most of more the
00:18:44Islamic countries will join them and also if
00:18:47any you know negative points that that may
00:18:51come from the western side they will be neutralized by the Trump
00:18:55administration as well so in all respects this tax
00:18:59is actually you receiveed with open loss not
00:19:03only by the western world but also from Trump administration and
00:19:06also from the organization of Islamic countries as well, this is the
00:19:10win-win situation. So Pakistan's defense minister said that
00:19:14all Muslim nations must unite against Israel. What are your
00:19:18thoughts on those remarks? Do you think that's something that could be possible? Could
00:19:21Israel be a uniting factor for the Muslim
00:19:25world? Well, let tell you, there is
00:19:29no denying, every country in the world
00:19:32believe that you know the Israelis
00:19:36are the center of... even when we come when we
00:19:39talk about the current situation there in middle east that has we have
00:19:43come to this point just because of Israel and it was
00:19:47Israel that actually prompted
00:19:50sorry the trump administration to unlease attack on
00:19:54Iran and now we are facing another cast of tropic in middle
00:19:57is one point and secondly khaja asif the defense minister one the
00:20:01powerful minister in Pakistan and he has been
00:20:05very close to the military and very close to you know the
00:20:09civilian administration of Pakistan as well when he says
00:20:12that the Israelis or the apex center
00:20:16of evil it means Pakistan's military
00:20:19establishment Pakistan civilian and also the 24
00:20:23million to 40 million people of Pakistan are on the same page
00:20:27when it comes to discus Israel and also the organization of Islamic
00:20:31country most the countries are the part of this OEC they
00:20:34believe that Israel or the apex. center
00:20:38Israeli or the center of evil on earth
00:20:42and has times and again pointing out that organization
00:20:46of Islamic country will have to form a grand.
00:20:50alliance against the
00:20:52Israelis as well, I think this is gonna happen very soon as well and Pakistanis
00:20:56and most the Muslim worlds, millions the people across
00:21:00the muslim world believe in Khaj Assad statement as well, Pakistan has
00:21:04been stating that no diplomatic
00:21:07relationship can be formed with Israelies
00:21:11until the Israel give self the
00:21:15right of self determination to the people of Gaza to the people
00:21:19of. so this is
00:21:21a that line not only for Pakistan defense minister
00:21:25for but organization of Islamic country most the Islamic
00:21:28country are have joined Pakistan when it
00:21:32comes to discuss the faith of palestinian,
00:21:35this is right, let me tell you that Pakistan and
00:21:38majority the Muslim world will never ever
00:21:42accept Israel until Israel give right of self
00:21:45determination to the Palestinian and the Palestinian.
00:21:50state and kh remark statement have
00:21:54been well received not only by the pakistanis but
00:21:57also if i say i will not
00:22:00ver that actually represented millions
00:22:04the muslim
00:22:06the people across of and he was well received okay we're going to
00:22:09leave there that's editor and chief the islamabad telegraph
00:22:19already looking beyond Iran, growing opinions in Israeli strategic
00:22:23circle suggest Turkia could be the next target.
00:22:27On the latest episode of going underground here on RT, Afsen Ratansi speaks
00:22:30to Professor Hassan Unal to explore how this view is being received
00:22:34in Ankara. The full conversation airs later today. Meanwhile, here's
00:22:38a quick preview. Does uh
00:22:42Erdowan realize that Israel has Turkia uh in
00:22:45its sights as the next target after Iran
00:22:49uh... does does Turkey understand that? Well, I
00:22:53would think it does, um, but on the other
00:22:56hand, um, I would say that Israel is a
00:23:00bit,
00:23:01you know, talking a bit too much about,
00:23:04you know, boasting about this and the other,
00:23:07and
00:23:08the next target is going to be Turkey, oh, certainly
00:23:12trying to punch much higher than their weight, you know,
00:23:16how are you going to basically strike Turkey if you do?
00:23:20that then you are going to basically and it is like
00:23:24poking into the into the
00:23:28beast nest basically a
00:23:31region which is already very very
00:23:33volatile said about Iran beforehand
00:23:37when no one thought they were going to do this yep yep and particularly
00:23:41after basically Iran gave them a bloody
00:23:45nose I mean talking in
00:23:48such a ch'. this way saying that Turkey is going to be
00:23:52the next target, and okay, the Turkish
00:23:56institutions, the military, the intelligence and
00:23:59all the other related institutions basically do their
00:24:02job, but politically you don't take them serious, would
00:24:06you?
00:24:11the senior united nations official has allegedly been caught feeding
00:24:15confidential UN data to Israel, the
00:24:19allegation center on Yahav Lichtner, a former
00:24:22Israeli diplomat who served in the UN system before taking up his current
00:24:26post as UNICEF's Washington director. leaked
00:24:30correspondence reportedly shows him sharing internal UN reports
00:24:33and arranging private briefings with Israeli officials were
00:24:37working at the organization. Revelations are now raising questions
00:24:41over whether his previous ties to Israel were ever properly
00:24:44scrutinized. RT received an official response from UNICEF regarding
00:24:48this issue. UNICEF is aware of serious
00:24:51allegations concerning an employee and is taking the appropriate action.
00:24:55If true, such actions would be inconsistent with staff obligations under the
00:24:59UN charter, the staff regulations
00:25:01and the standards of conduct for the international civil service, all of which
00:25:05emphasize that the responsibilities of staff are international, not
00:25:08national, and which call for the independence and impartiality the staff
00:25:12the UN. A UN consultant at the International
00:25:16Association for human rights and social development told us. has
00:25:20been allowed to act outside the norms of international
00:25:23law. the later emails show that
00:25:27a senior UNICEF official in Washington
00:25:30shared confidential UN information with
00:25:34Israeli diplomats. this is not one bad
00:25:38appal
00:25:39as as it could be mentioned. this is a proof that Israel has
00:25:43been infiltrating the UN for years. an
00:25:46agency that should protect children was instead.
00:25:50helping a state that is killing thousand of children in
00:25:54Gaza, the UN is not in this case and in this sense
00:25:57neutral, it has uh been captured by the current
00:26:01system. and unfortunately by the sionist
00:26:05interests as well, so Israel is not hiding one
00:26:09secret, I think it is hiding a
00:26:12system of crimes, the spine happened during the UN
00:26:16investigation of Israel's 2014 war on
00:26:20Israel where over
00:26:232,200 palestinian were killed,
00:26:26Israel wanted to stop the investigation before it
00:26:30started, today ' Israel is doing the same
00:26:34thing but a much more large scale
00:26:37a genocide in Gaza with more than 50,000
00:26:41deaths. Israel spice not to hide one fact,
00:26:45but to destroy accountability itself. it
00:26:49believe it is above all international law, and the
00:26:53worst lets it believe
00:26:54that. conservative
00:26:58journalist Tucker Carlson has unveiled a 10-point vision for the future.
00:27:03of America. He aims to break away from the traditional US
00:27:07two-party system and forge a third political
00:27:09path. Tucker's manifesto focuses
00:27:13heavily on domestic matters ranging from public health and urban
00:27:17planning to procreation and education. Meanwhile, his
00:27:21foreign policy outlook dictates that the US should strictly steer clear of
00:27:25foreign interventions and avoid unnecessary wars. He placed a
00:27:29particular emphasis on distancing the country from military and and
00:27:32financial involvement with Israel. Ultimately, Carlson is
00:27:36questioning why the agendas of America's two opposing parties are hardly
00:27:40distinguishable. On the issues that really
00:27:43matter, the most obvious
00:27:46and historically significant expressions the exersion of power, which
00:27:50would be foreign policy and the budget, tax code.
00:27:54The parties are aligned, they're the same, they have the same agenda, exactly the same agenda, and they
00:27:58go through this whole song and dance to convince us, no, we're really blood enemies. but are they
00:28:02really? no, they're not. prior to sharing his goal for
00:28:06America, Tucker Carlson fueled the political fire storm by hosting
00:28:10magaways at his estate, among them were Marjery Taylor
00:28:14Green, Thomas Massie, and former counter terrorism chief Joe
00:28:17Kent. all them recently had falling out with Trump, claiming the
00:28:21president compromised the America first doctrine. we asked panel
00:28:25of guests what it would take to create genuine multi-party system in the
00:28:29United States. look to find to found.
00:28:33an actual third party, it takes lots of money, because the two
00:28:37main parties, the republicans and democrats were virtually identical in many
00:28:40many ways, the one thing they do agree on more than all is to
00:28:44collude to prevent anyone on the ballot who will
00:28:48threaten them who threaten their supremacy, so it takes a lot of money, it takes a
00:28:52lot of work, getting on balance is extremely difficult, yes of
00:28:56course money is resource, but the ultimate resource is needed is people's
00:29:00willingness, are people willing to? actually put in the work that
00:29:04goes beyond the money and I think with people being fed up and the
00:29:07energy being there, it's completely possible to start something completely
00:29:11new and independent that can take off. the two-party system
00:29:15historically in in US electoral politics has been rigged uh, we
00:29:19have a 50 state, 50, the 50 states divise their own election
00:29:22rules and ballot access and signatures
00:29:26required, also there is the financial considerations that daniel was mentioning
00:29:30earlier, so it requires money, requires uh institutions and
00:29:34structures and you have to reach certain thresholds that are not aligned across the
00:29:37entire US. well, Jose of those who have made some sort of
00:29:41impact in the past, that those as as we've heard there,
00:29:45that core ideology of third party candidates, do they
00:29:49really diverge from the existing platforms the
00:29:52Republican and Democratic parties? uh, well,
00:29:56yes, actually, and I think a lot of
00:29:58it is because you see it with the insurgent democrats that are...
00:30:02coming into power now. there are many criticisms you can make
00:30:06them, but what they are seen as is insurgent force that is
00:30:09coming in and overtaking the democratic party,
00:30:13and uh, what are they saying? they're saying medicare for all, they're saying no
00:30:17money for Israel, um, and they are calling out democratic
00:30:21leadership, but that is the kind of energy that people want to see right
00:30:25now coming out of, both the democratic party and the
00:30:28republican party, and I think what's going to be pivotal in getting a...
00:30:32third party elected is a third force, which means that you'll
00:30:36have individuals who will run in the republican parties, in the democratic
00:30:39parties, but ultimately are committed to an idea of
00:30:42independence and away from the power structures that exist now. i
00:30:46think Jose makes a great point, which is we're thinking in terms of
00:30:50a political party, new political party, whereas it might
00:30:54actually be a political faction or voluntary
00:30:58set of set of...