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Twice a week, award-winning journalist Afshin Rattansi and his team go underground to cover geopolitics and current affairs from a perspective you won’t find in the mainstream media, with some of the most high-profile guests.

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00:00:00a ser colocados como los enemigos fundamentales
00:00:02para mantener este orden democrático
00:00:04of liberal que va a garantizar esta estrategia económica de reprimarización
00:00:07de la región jed el condor sigue
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00:00:28and welcome back to going underground for the third and final part of
00:00:31of our conversation with Tucker Carlson, you mentioned assassination,
00:00:35the thread of assassination to you, but I mean, and but
00:00:39it is your contention that that your friend Charlie Kirk,
00:00:43it was suspicious, the timing with which he was saying, we're going to
00:00:47allow voices on stages
00:00:49of a turning point USA to
00:00:53of attack Israel, and uh, he was being threatened,
00:00:57yeah, uh, after that, well,
00:00:59me specifically, it was about me, which is the whole thing is kind of bewildering to me since i'm
00:01:03i've never been a particularly strident, well haven't been anti-Israel at all
00:01:06actually, mean you could, i've been on television for 35 years, you could go back
00:01:10and i've never attacked Israel, i don't i've never had strong feelings even now you say it's a
00:01:14great country, well yeah, i think that
00:01:18less because i'm annoyed, but like i've never made anger at
00:01:22Israel much less Jews, like the center of my world, i'm not mad at
00:01:26all Jews of course so my closest, mean whatever, i'm not...
00:01:30says i might never have been, i'm not going to become one, and i'm not an obsessed anti-Israel
00:01:34hater, so it's a little bit strange to be
00:01:38sort of cast in that role, it wasn't my choice, i can promise you
00:01:41that, but they've been almost monomaniacally focused on me,
00:01:44i'm not sure why, and i think partly it's because i'm not an
00:01:48in anti-semite, i'm not a nazi, i'm anti-nazi, and
00:01:52so
00:01:52of that i think makes the criticism may be more dangerous, if you can look at
00:01:56point at someone and say, well look, he's clearly just motivated by hate, well, i'm not.
00:02:17a
00:02:30would have full confidence in the incomplete version of
00:02:34events the federal government has given us, like where does that confidence come from? why you
00:02:38so certain that's true, and why you mad anyone who doubts it?
00:02:41what is that?
00:02:42i don't, i've always been an open-minded person, remain
00:02:45one, and
00:02:47i would be very happy if it turns out that Charlie Kirk was murdered by
00:02:51some crazed loan
00:02:52of gunman who was upset about trans rights or something,
00:02:56but as
00:02:57in a good friend of mine said to me, the United States has this situation. where we have lot of
00:03:00loan gunmen, lot of crazy loan gunmen,
00:03:04but none
00:03:05of them ever kill anyone who opposes
00:03:09institutional or supports
00:03:13institutional
00:03:13of power, they only kill people who are a problem for the deep state,
00:03:17it's kind of weird isn't it, like what are the odds of that? you
00:03:21have a president who talks
00:03:24a about, limiting the power of CIA and preventing Israel from
00:03:28getting nuclear weapon at Demona. "and that guy gets killed by lone
00:03:31gunman, and then you have his brother who's about to become the democratic nominee in
00:03:351968 who's like, wait, we're going to get to the bottom of what happened to my brother, and then he gets
00:03:39killed by another lone gunman a Christian Palestinian kind of weird, and then
00:03:43you have a civil
00:03:45of in rights leader of who all of sudden pivots and starts talking about economic inequality and he gets killed by whom?
00:03:49alone gunman, and then you have Charlie Kirk, the single most important
00:03:53organizer on the American right with the largest base of
00:03:56young supporters who's like, wait second, why should we be..." following
00:04:00Israel into another regime change war and he gets killed by another lone
00:04:03gunman. mean it's just kind of
00:04:05of pattern that notice, and maybe it's all real, maybe i'm the crazy
00:04:09one, maybe i'm a conspiracy theorist, but do think it's worth pushing
00:04:13a little bit and asking like, what do we know? and the fastest way to find out
00:04:17what we know is by declassifying the government documents that tell us more,
00:04:21of but they never have and they never will. so don't expect me in the
00:04:25face of that kind of unjustifiable
00:04:29secrecy to... your story buse I don't you
00:04:32and Charlie Kirk were desperate to create a uh, I
00:04:36mean, perhaps regain, but create a great America, we were
00:04:40obsessed by the decline
00:04:42of the United States since the aftermath of World War II, of
00:04:45course, whatever Israel has
00:04:48of done to the United States and foreign policy, whatever tragedy Israel's
00:04:51done in Gaza, the war in Iran and so on,
00:04:55of the benefits that come out of all that tragedy arguably have
00:04:59been bricks. to the bricks countries, power
00:05:02is uh moving to the bricks countries, they've had
00:05:06the daily summit, um, do you think people in the
00:05:09beltway understand that all their? policies have been
00:05:13directed to benefiting the bricks
00:05:16countries, how isolating Russia has helped to
00:05:20isolate the United States and NATO
00:05:22countries? I think they
00:05:26refuse to believe it, I think it's
00:05:29too damming an indictment the last 80 years
00:05:33of our history, they can't metabolize it, they refuse.
00:05:37I mean, I got fired over this, I think, from my last
00:05:41job, the... Joe Biden, the byden administration kicked
00:05:45Russia out of Swift, I mean, and it was very quickly after the war
00:05:49began, um, I said the obvious, I'm not a genius, I
00:05:52just connected some pretty simple dots, if we're
00:05:56using the US dollar as a weapon of war, there's
00:06:00no greater incentive for countries to dedollarize, which is to say, get rid of our
00:06:04debt than that, don't do that if you want to
00:06:08continue to hold the world's reserve currency, like that's crazy, it's self-destructive
00:06:12behavior. "I said that immediately,
00:06:14and again doesn't understand
00:06:18that. I mean, surely he understands that. Well, so I think he does
00:06:22understand, that's a very smart point, and thank you for saying that. I of course he
00:06:25understand,
00:06:26Rupert Brock's a lot smarter than I am, that's for sure, and much richer. So, of course he
00:06:30understands that. There's a sense in which all of this,
00:06:34American and UK,
00:06:37German policy, it's really those three countries that are driving
00:06:41all of this. those policies are all
00:06:44designed to hurt those three countries,
00:06:47particularly the United States, but also Britain and Germany, and it's
00:06:51like this is self-harm we're watching. The goal is to
00:06:55destroy the west, obviously, it couldn't be more obvious to me.
00:06:58Now, why, what's the motive? I don't understand it, that's why I think there's
00:07:02a spiritual component here, but the effect is to destroy the
00:07:06west is to dethrow
00:07:07on the west, is to topple American empire, all empires, the only other
00:07:11explanation is their old. Chinese agents trump
00:07:14and all the european buse all they do is to
00:07:17benefit Russia and China,
00:07:19this is the real Russia is so true, that is so true, and
00:07:23that's why I was so anxious to go to Russia after the second i got fired, I went to Russia
00:07:27because I could, and the first thing I found was like a
00:07:31thriving city, I didn't want to find that, I didn't want to discover
00:07:35that Moscow is not just nicer than New York, but much nicer than New York,
00:07:39infinitely nicer than New York, much bigger than New York. much
00:07:42nicer, I didn't want to find that, but I did,
00:07:46and that fact, and I was attacked endlessly for
00:07:50saying this, but it's just true, I, I didn't make it up, and I didn't create it, I just
00:07:54observed it and reported it, that fact tells you
00:07:57everything, it tells you everything about where the world is going,
00:08:00and I'm sad about that, I like the United States, by the way, I would defend many
00:08:04components the British Empire, in that it brought literacy,
00:08:08ended slavery, built beautiful buildings, effective
00:08:11infrastructure. there were good things everyone hates to hear this, but it's true, not all
00:08:15empires are the same, and yet the the US
00:08:19could have been a great, think a force for good in the
00:08:22world, but now it's ending and it's ending in the worst
00:08:26way, these things do end, but it doesn't have to be the
00:08:30fall given all of this, so that means that uh, when you left
00:08:33Forks, Trump knew that that could also be reason, so he
00:08:37must have pretty clearly understood, and I know we spoke early about Russell Vort, the
00:08:41director of Office. management and budget, a complicated secret department that
00:08:45seems to be incredibly powerful, all these people would understand that
00:08:49throwing Russia out of Swift, and I i don't suppose Russia wants to be back in Swift
00:08:53after the latest brick summon, is going to - reduce the
00:08:56power the US dollar, what what did what did
00:09:00Donald Trump say, and did you speak with him about the Swift situation and
00:09:04why that was going to do? I did, I did, and I sp,
00:09:08and I said this,
00:09:09you know, during the year or so between... invasion and me
00:09:13getting fired, think i worked at fox for like year and two months after the
00:09:17war in Ukraine began, and i said this many many times and trump would
00:09:21call me and agree with me or i'd have dinner with him and he would agree with
00:09:23me, this is bad for us and trump would
00:09:27always say the net and he said this in public many times, the net effect
00:09:31of our war against Russia is to drive Russia into
00:09:35the arms of China by necessity, and when the
00:09:39two countries are united, you have the world's...
00:10:12Yes, in the first place, so there were all these
00:10:15different machinations going on in the Trump, in this
00:10:19Trump term, and then suddenly it stopped, and then, as I mentioned, there was
00:10:23this assassination attempt on Putin.
00:10:25and he's he's now saying the American people are
00:10:29making money at the war in Russia through Ukraine rather than
00:10:33thinking about the geopolitical move kind of that's just
00:10:36the saddest and dumbest and actually on some level
00:10:40kind of offensive justification for failure,
00:10:44he again and again and again said
00:10:46I will settle this war, it's terrible for us. I did multiple interviews with him on camera on
00:10:50this topic because I've been monomaniically focused on this for
00:10:54almost five years and because I think it's so important, I mean it's there's
00:10:58a war in Europe in which over million people have died, Ukraine
00:11:02has been destroyed as a country, I mean this
00:11:04is just inherently important what's happening apart from its effect on the
00:11:08US, and so Trump got this, he understood
00:11:12it, and but again the very same
00:11:15people who pushed him to war in
00:11:19Iran have kept the United States at war with Russia, and
00:11:23you can't say it enough, the US is... war with Russia through proxies, whether it's
00:11:27Germany, UK, but these are all proxies, there are American troops in Germany and the
00:11:30UK right now, these are occupied countries, countries occupied by
00:11:34us, there
00:11:35are American soldiers in those countries and have been for 81 years,
00:11:38so this is an American war against
00:11:42Russia and Trump is prosecuting it, these attacks on Russia are
00:11:46being targeted by the US Intel agency, CIA and NSA, and everyone
00:11:49knows this, Putin knows this, I've talked to him about it, obviously, and we all
00:11:53pretend, oh no, the... "brits are doing it, Britain doesn't exist
00:11:57and as nation anymore, they're not doing anything without us
00:12:00and Trump is doing this and he's doing it because he's being
00:12:04pushed by these same people, it's so important to them,
00:12:07it's so important to them that Putin not run
00:12:11Russia, somebody needs to write a book about
00:12:14this, you know, I mean, and these are the airs the
00:12:18bolshevics,
00:12:19and I'll say one last thing, the irony is these same people who
00:12:23control our foreign policy establishment,
00:12:55secular state that they control, an anti-christian
00:12:58state that they control that particular
00:13:01type of b we
00:13:01get into
00:13:02a big big discussion which would just be on on
00:13:05that, but having said that, you mentioned the troops
00:13:09in Europe, and again trump does mention them
00:13:12from time to time as regards the waste of money and the tens of
00:13:16thousands of troops and actually he's just put nuclear weapons, station
00:13:20them in in Britain as I understand it secretly,
00:13:23does he? realize that at least that might be something
00:13:27that he could achieve in this term as well as his immigration
00:13:31promises. China spending a third of its GDP on military that
00:13:35the United States does and all that
00:13:38other money is being spent obviously on infrastructure for the Chinese
00:13:42people uh instead of on all these bombs let alone Chinese
00:13:46troops in some other continent. Is that an
00:13:49understanding that uh Trump may
00:13:53make real?
00:13:55was I there "well he's said it many many times,
00:13:58I mean
00:13:58of course he understands all of this, acutely understands it
00:14:02and has articulated it, and it's on tape so you can find it,
00:14:05and I actually have found for it, him
00:14:07and saying um, this a lot of cases, so
00:14:10no,
00:14:11he absolutely understands it, but our
00:14:15system, the American system of government,
00:14:17is sclerotic, it can't actually respond to
00:14:21present danger, to to real threats, even do'.
00:14:25essential threats like AI and nuclear war, it's frozen in plates
00:14:28paralyzed and that's part the
00:14:31problem executive decisions on
00:14:34I'll meet Trump, I'll meet Putin, I'll meet Kim
00:14:38Jongn, he could just say executive order, thanks to
00:14:41Obama's use of executive orders after his poor
00:14:44midterms, Trump can now start doing things like we're going to
00:14:48withdraw the troops from western Europe, you were in London recently, so
00:14:51presumably horror amongst elite classes if the American... troops leave
00:14:55Britain. Ultimately I think American troops,
00:14:59well they will leave Europe because we can't
00:15:02sustain our footprint anymore because we can't afford
00:15:05it. Um, so yes, that will happen. The question is
00:15:09how, but you have to resolve this, the the war against
00:15:13Russia first, and I don't think there's any way out for European leaders,
00:15:17that's the truth.
00:15:18I don't think Murtz or Burnam or any them have any
00:15:22resolution to the real problems, like their populations.
00:15:25them
00:15:25them all i spent lot of time in Europe and
00:15:28and
00:15:32well you're you're British so they hate and
00:15:34their they're leaders broke they and hate these countries are dying.
00:15:39demographically and they've really betrayed their own populations, they've not made life better for their own people,
00:15:42and they know that, and this true of America as well, and so I do think they
00:15:46see war as kind the only resolution, it's the only way
00:15:50to wipe clean the debt, it's the only way that they can gen up
00:15:54popular support, it's the only way that they can, burring that,
00:15:57institute, total control over their populations
00:16:01using technology, only when you're at war can you justify
00:16:05police state actions and "and that's what they're going to, Britain,
00:16:09particularly Britain, which is a police state, more
00:16:12Britains go to jail, many more go to jail every
00:16:15year for Facebook posts or social media posts than they do in Russia,
00:16:19which has much bigger population, so like these are police dates
00:16:23and war allows the government to justify, I mean, I
00:16:27don't have been following what's happening to George Galloway, former member of par, long time member of
00:16:31parliament and labor leader in Britain, I mean he just got
00:16:35debanked, RBS just debanked."
00:16:37him after lifetime of banking with them, he's been basically
00:16:41barred sorry, yeah, exactly, the two different words, but they're
00:16:45kind of allied to the state, actually was bank of
00:16:48scotland, yeah, and um, but
00:16:52so you're following this, but like George Galloway, I mean, how can that
00:16:56even happen? well,
00:16:58I don't think we can make this show in Britain, because I don't know, we might say the
00:17:02word genocide when it came to Gaza, the British censorship
00:17:05agency, Offcom wouldn't... allow it, but having said enough British
00:17:09bat bashing Tugar Carlson, we used to run your
00:17:13country as you know, and uh, I have family there, that's
00:17:17why, actually come to think of it, there are serious issues here,
00:17:21because as I understand it, he's a friend of yours,
00:17:25Milo yanopulos, Milo
00:17:28Yanoplos, there's there are
00:17:31characters in who say their friends are Donald Trump that
00:17:35tweet intermittently again.
00:17:38you,
00:17:39and then they tweeted against
00:17:40this guy, Milo, uh, they she also
00:17:44tweeted against the Graysons Max Blumentall,
00:17:48um, Laura Lumer, are there
00:17:51a censorship organizations in the United States that are
00:17:55allied around the Donald Trump circle, let alone the usual
00:17:58suspects like anti-defamation league or
00:18:02other groups that hate your first amendment, and
00:18:06your fourth amendment. well the ADL is
00:18:10aligned with the Trump administration of course, you're closely aligned with the
00:18:14Trump administration, and yeah, I mean they, the Secretary of
00:18:17State, Marco Rubio, pulled the green cards
00:18:20of immigrants to the United States who were here legally,
00:18:24it's hard to get a green card, as you know, pulled their green cards
00:18:28and deported people for criticizing Israel and said so,
00:18:31we're not going to put up with that, so meanwhile we have
00:18:35tens of millions of people here illegally. not not much has
00:18:39been done to change that, but criticize Israel and you get as
00:18:43legal immigrant deported as a college student or someone with a
00:18:47job, it's um, yeah, the whole, the
00:18:50power
00:18:51the US government has been harnessed on
00:18:53behalf of Israel, and I never thought I
00:18:57would say that, I can hardly believe it's true, but it is
00:19:00true, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it, I don't what the end game
00:19:04is exactly, I don't know
00:19:06how we walk back from the... "i've never seen a more
00:19:10aggressive display of identity politics, identity politics being the idea that
00:19:14certain groups have more rights than others, there's never
00:19:16been a more anti-american idea than that
00:19:20system, that's across the board to an extent. i was particularly talking about this woman
00:19:24laura, because when you were friends with Donald Trump, you never used your
00:19:28friendship to tweet against people
00:19:31and showed some kind of power against individuals
00:19:35based on your friendship with Donald Trump." that seems to be
00:19:38occurring, there seems to be people around Donald Trump, I
00:19:42suppose I'm getting to the point of asking the dread question, who is
00:19:46Laura luma? I haven't the finest idea, I mean this
00:19:50is someone who seems, I don't read anything
00:19:54that person writes and but who seems unbalanced to me, but I'm
00:19:57not a, I'm not licensed to make that diagnosis, um,
00:20:01I would say though that
00:20:05it's it's hard to believe that the... president could have
00:20:08people like that in his orbit and that I mean she
00:20:12has bragged in public about getting Milo Yanapolis
00:20:15deported because he criticized Israel, I mean
00:20:18that's that was the criteria in there, I mean you could go
00:20:22to
00:20:23you know the parking lot of any hardware store and any morning the week and find hundred
00:20:27people who are here illegally, this guy misses a meeting with the
00:20:31immigration authorities, his visa expires
00:20:35three months ago and they arrest him and put him in...
00:20:50criminals, obviously we don't have a problem with those,
00:20:53jeffreysteen, but because they criticized Israel,
00:20:56so again, i don't want to think this, but the evidence is
00:21:00overwhelming, it's a fact, that is the operating thesis
00:21:04the administration, we defend Israel, anyone who criticizes
00:21:07Israel must be destroyed, mean trump's been attacking me,
00:21:11not that i care, but it's just it's sort of remarkable to me,
00:21:15given how well i know him, how well i've always gotten along with him, given
00:21:18how's how much I've supported him over the
00:21:22years, I criticized Israel and like, that's it, but Israel is
00:21:26is foreign country, so criticizing Israel is no more morally
00:21:29significant to an American than criticizing Madagascar or Spain, it's
00:21:33just it's it's another country, you can have any opinion you want on it, but
00:21:37no, no longer, what's going to happen to you then,
00:21:41cuz if the CEO greenblad the anti-deformation League and
00:21:44Ted Cruz, quotes, working behind the scenes to take
00:21:48revolting lunatics like you, down and this is all by the way,
00:21:52aside from if the democrats get anywhere near power, because their
00:21:55hatred of you is uh long-lasting and their desire to censor
00:21:59voices uh that don't conform, so so what is
00:22:03going to happen to people like you? well, I mean, that's not in
00:22:07my hands, I mean,
00:22:09you know, if things continue at the current trajectory, I think
00:22:13it's pretty obvious what's going to happen to me, but um, nothing
00:22:17good, but you know, we're not in charge of history.
00:22:20and i can't
00:22:21see the future, that's been proven to me many
00:22:24times and um so you know i have no idea, but i just
00:22:28see my obligation as pretty clear, just
00:22:32say what you think is true, and as fearlessly
00:22:36as you can, and i feel privileged that i'm a place where i can do that, i know an
00:22:39awful lot of people who who can also see what's happening but
00:22:43aren't free to say so because their jobs depend on lying
00:22:47or you know they've they've got a mortgage. "most Americans
00:22:51are are drowning in debt, or just this is a deeply indebted country,
00:22:55and so that
00:22:56you know debt is slavery, you're not free to make independent
00:22:59decisions, you're not sovereign when you're indebted, and I just happen not to
00:23:03be, and that's true wealth, I would say, I don't have a ton
00:23:07of money in the bank, but I owe no money to anybody, and so I
00:23:10feel like because I have that privilege, I should just say what I think is
00:23:14true, just always and I'm going to, just finally, tocar, do you think
00:23:18uh, in this Chinese..." century then the Chinese
00:23:22will uh uh treat the Americans better than the Americans treated
00:23:25them. Do you think we are about to go into a Chinese century
00:23:29because of what uh mistakes have been made by uh
00:23:33successive European and American leaders? Oh, I
00:23:37doubt it. I I doubt we'll be well treated um by our new
00:23:41masters. No, I, I don't, I don't have any expectation of that at all. I mean,
00:23:45I don't, you, I hope my grandkids aren't working a lithium mine.
00:23:48Um, but... "I don't think
00:23:50that's, no, I hope not, but I no, I don't
00:23:54think the western nations will be treated well, I don't think defeated nations ever are treated well,
00:23:58ever. It's just the nature of it.
00:24:00I don't think we've treated the Brits well, we didn't even strictly speaking defeat the Brits,
00:24:04they just defeated themselves by joining totally pointless
00:24:07war over Czechoslovakia and Poland, I know it's unpopular to say
00:24:11that, but it's true, they destroyed their own country, Churchill destroyed that country, and
00:24:15back Stalin, really, um, and so we didn't
00:24:19defeat." britain, but we've treated them like we
00:24:22did, and won the second
00:24:26world war in fairness, he did, he did, no, I'm not,
00:24:30I'm just saying, you can't make a, you can't say
00:24:33that you're like on the side the angels when you're arming
00:24:37Stalin, so like
00:24:38we we should all sort decelerate a little bit with the moral posturing, I'm on the
00:24:42right side, we're on the side of light, they're on the side of darkness, it's
00:24:46like, you sent weapons to Stalin, so spare me the lecture.
00:24:50that that's my view, yeah, I would have done that, but I mean, the
00:24:53mysteries, next time I speak to you, but you're not lecturing me,
00:24:57but the next time we speak, will these mysteries be cleared up, because I mean,
00:25:00there are a lot of mysteries in this whole conversation, um,
00:25:04these complete, I hope so, complete switches of
00:25:07policy, complete switches of perspective on the part
00:25:11the executive, and is JDV just going to
00:25:15change a dime, turn a dime like Trump
00:25:19did. "i assume you got into this business for the same reason I
00:25:23did, which is you're curious, you want to know how things work, like what is
00:25:26this, and so I'm tormented by my curiosity, I don't
00:25:30know if that's good or bad, but I am, and I, I really would like to
00:25:34know, I don't know that we will, I have no idea what the futures
00:25:37holds, um, I don't think AI will make it any
00:25:41easier to understand, hope I'm wrong there, but uh,
00:25:45it's but I last thing I'll say is we need to stop
00:25:48pretending." that this war was the result of a
00:25:52conventional lobbying campaign where two sides make the
00:25:56case and the decision maker chooses the wiser course. That's
00:26:00not what happened. I was there. That's not what
00:26:03happened, this war and the continuation the
00:26:07war against Russia by the United States, those are the result
00:26:11of real pressure, like real pressure,
00:26:14not calling up, hey will you do a favor, but real pressure, and
00:26:18what was the nature of that pressure, unknown, but it existed.
00:26:22Talkson, thank you so much, thank
00:26:25you, and that's it for our three part special with Tucker
00:26:28Carlson, you can watch the full interview online, we will be back on Monday with a... new
00:26:32episode for more continuing coverage the death of American empire. See you
00:26:36Monday.
00:30:02euh préoccupé par vos parents qui vivent en Europe, en sachant
00:30:06tout cela, vous êtes préoccupé par vos maman, vos papas, vos grands
00:30:10parents, vos frères et sœurs qui vivent en Europe, je suis des racines en
00:30:14Europe là-bas, parce que je vois même mes petites sœurs, ils subit ça,
00:30:18même mon mon, il y avait ma petite sœur, elle voulait même se
00:30:22tuer parce que tout simplement, c'est pas c'est pas c'est pas la faute des enfants là, mais
00:30:25c'est de mais c'est la faute à leur mère, parce que c'est eux qui disent que
00:30:29non, il est de couleur noir, ne parle pas avec. avec elle, non,
00:30:33elle est sale, elle pu comme ça, on on te dit mègre
00:30:37des, tu es ici dans la rue, on te dit mègre, comme si tu les
00:30:40avais quelque chose, non,
00:30:44et et ma petite sœur, elle vient tout le temps, elle me dit,
00:30:48maintenant je je veux, je veux plus, je veux plus aller à l'école parce que tout
00:30:52simplement on me traite tout le temps, on me traite mal, je suis la seule
00:30:56nigre dans notre classe, mais on traite tout le temps mal et ça, je veux pas
00:30:59le supporter.
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