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00:05:29to weekend live, good evening from me too.
00:05:33So, today we have a full show and today with current
00:05:37affairs and not only, we will be together until 4:30.
00:05:40We have done a lot.
00:05:47and the investigations that have started. Yesterday we hosted on this
00:05:51show the former commander of Elpis, Theodoros Giannaros. He made very serious
00:05:54accusations. He said that a few years ago he went to a resort
00:05:58and they performed plasmapheresis on him. We have contacted the resort and we have the
00:06:02answer which you will hear very soon. So, also on
00:06:06weekend live we have testimonies and
00:06:08complaints about the hypnotherapist and the doctors.
00:06:12they talk about their meetings and reveal what was happening in the
00:06:16doctor's office in Karneadou, but also in the office in
00:06:18Kifissia, and you will have noticed that there is chaos
00:06:22on the internet with illegal advertisements
00:06:25for therapies, illegal and misleading. So, an
00:06:29artificial intelligence tool has been created to scan
00:06:32the internet and find the offenders. There are the first
00:06:35findings and we will reveal them to you shortly. Let's see what it has recorded,
00:06:39first ways of communication. Ways of communication quickly to pass.
00:06:49Sky TV of our show and of course our email
00:06:52weekendlifepakissky.gr.
00:06:55are the ways you send us your messages and you help us a lot because
00:06:59you send us useful information for our reports. So, Panagiotis
00:07:02Vlahoutsakos with us. Hello my Panagiotis. and let's say hello to
00:07:06Giorgos Stefanou who is in Korydallos
00:07:08prison. Good afternoon my Giorgos. We will be with you in a very short
00:07:12while. My Panagiotis, almost
00:07:143:24 hours have passed, now we are going for the 4th 24 hours and
00:07:18we also had the first meeting of the couple in
00:07:21prison, exactly, exactly. Indeed, the couple of doctors
00:07:25are spending another 24 hours in prison, obviously the atmosphere
00:07:28there is tense, as we were saying yesterday, especially in the women's
00:07:32prison, since the singer was very connected with the inmates
00:07:36there, as we remind you that in February 23 he had
00:07:39performed a big concert there, he had talked to the inmates. He had
00:07:42eaten with them, he had spent time with them, etc. Therefore, he is
00:07:46an artist whom, in quotation marks, the inmates in Korydallos adore,
00:07:49so indeed they are spending
00:07:53another 24 hours, now they are beginning to realize the
00:07:57change in their lives, that their lives have changed by 180 degrees.
00:08:00Yes, and we also have the first meeting between
00:08:04them. Indeed, they submitted a request, it was accepted
00:08:08and today, yesterday, I'm sorry, in the morning, the first meeting between
00:08:10the two doctors took place. Giorgos, we are coming to you. Tell us about the first
00:08:14meeting that took place between them, exactly.
00:08:18Yesterday, the first meeting took place. From 5 in the morning, they are basically
00:08:21in prison. Yesterday, they talked for four hours. How did
00:08:25this happen? With the escort of the external guard of the
00:08:28women's prison behind me, the 56-year-old woman
00:08:32boarded a van and was transferred to the men's
00:08:36prison across the street. There, the correctional
00:08:39officers took her in and led her to a
00:08:43room where she had a free visit with
00:08:46her husband. Free visit means that there was no
00:08:50separating glass that we usually see
00:08:53during visits of inmates.
00:08:56Also, they were not handcuffed.
00:08:58They hugged when they met
00:09:02and spent about half an hour talking
00:09:05under the supervision of a correctional officer. Good,
00:09:09Panagiotis, something like this is expected anyway. You also
00:09:13see that our information states that on Saturday, especially, what Giorgos said, this open visit, is allowed,
00:09:16meaning without restrictions in between,
00:09:20if two inmates are related by blood, they can meet in
00:09:24person, talk, etc. Indeed, something like this happened. The meeting lasted
00:09:28about half an hour. This is what we learn. This shows, however,
00:09:32that the legal actions being taken find both of them in agreement, because you were telling
00:09:36us yesterday that a request for release would probably
00:09:39be submitted for the doctor but not for his wife.
00:09:43Yes, at first glance, it has been known that first the
00:09:46doctor will submit a request for release and then his wife will follow.
00:09:50Indeed, the fact that they met shows that
00:09:52at least they are following a common line or at least they are both informed
00:09:56about their next moves and yes and it doesn't seem one disagrees with the other obviously.
00:10:00So, Giorgos, thank you very much. Let's welcome to our
00:10:03company Mr. Giorgos Merkoulidis, who is the former lawyer of Giorgos
00:10:06Mazonakis. Until a few months before Giorgos Mazonakis passed away, he
00:10:10represented him. Hello Mr. Merkoulidis.
00:10:19start with some parts, because you also had a personal relationship, which are related to your field, the legal ones.
00:10:23From the very first moment, we were saying how
00:10:25likely it was and how important it was to upgrade the indictment, those
00:10:29who have some basic knowledge may understand it, but people constantly ask where
00:10:33we are with the Mazonakis case, so we have prepared a card to make it
00:10:36simple and understandable for the people, what we expect at this moment from the investigations
00:10:40and we will start with the histological toxicology
00:10:44tests which are very important and we expect them to come to light,
00:10:47there are the testimonies of the witnesses who will surely be called
00:10:51by the interrogator who handles the case. There is a financial audit for
00:10:55money laundering from illegal activities which will also
00:10:59shed light on the doctors' actions and there is also a
00:11:02parallel investigation for what the medical association did, which was responsible
00:11:06for the checks and examinations of the
00:11:10clinics and what was happening there. I want to ask you Mr.
00:11:13Merkoulidis, from what you see all these days, is an
00:11:17expansion of the indictment
00:11:20likely?
00:11:23I believe so. I believe that based on what
00:11:26has at least come to light and
00:11:29evaluating the material that will be submitted to the
00:11:33case file, I believe that yes, there is a serious possibility for what
00:11:36you are saying, even an upgrade of the charge
00:11:40to murder, yes, don't complete
00:11:42it yourself. Besides, the upgrade of the
00:11:46charge to intentional homicide
00:11:49with eventual malice was made
00:11:53based on the evidence submitted. In the next two days from
00:11:56the tragic death of
00:11:59Giorgos, for those we hear, those we hear being called
00:12:03at this moment to the investigative authorities to testify, obviously
00:12:07as witnesses for a start, but is it not unlikely that
00:12:10indications of greater involvement in the
00:12:13case will emerge? Exactly, exactly,
00:12:17because it is not possible for this doctor's office to operate, everyone says
00:12:21that there were no relevant licenses, that the
00:12:23machines were not declared, so all these
00:12:27elements will be evaluated and depending on what emerges,
00:12:30depending on what emerges, the prosecutor will
00:12:33file charges for the offenses
00:12:36that occurred. So, it is very likely, Mr. Merkoulidis, that we will see more people
00:12:40entering the scope of the investigations, the scope of the accused, as
00:12:42they say? Yes, for other offenses,
00:12:46obviously, for offenses, yes, for other
00:12:49offenses, yes, not for Giorgos's homicide, for other
00:12:53offenses, yes. You were close to Giorgos
00:12:56Mozonakis, tell us a little, did Giorgos ever tell you
00:12:59about this doctor's office, did you know about its existence,
00:13:03of this specific one and of the
00:13:04doctors?
00:13:07I knew absolutely nothing, even though I have said again that
00:13:10several times we had been very close to this area, either for breakfast, or for
00:13:14coffee in the shops in Kolonaki, never, we had
00:13:17also passed very close, Herodotos and Karneadi we had passed through this street,
00:13:21he never told me that he was visiting this doctor's office, I
00:13:24believe. that he was visiting this doctor's office recently,
00:13:28I don't believe that in the past he had
00:13:31visited it, the last one was generally cautious about such
00:13:35methods.
00:13:38No, this doctor's office, if he went, I firmly believed that
00:13:41it was a normal doctor's office and normal
00:13:44doctors. I knew that he visited, he had various
00:13:47examinations for his health and so on, he went to the Metropol
00:13:51or to other hospitals in the
00:13:57In any case, he was cautious about para-medical
00:14:00methods, not medical procedures. He believed in
00:14:04medical procedures, and when someone had suggested to him
00:14:07to visit this specific clinic
00:14:11and apparently it was a close person he
00:14:14completely trusted, he probably went unreservedly to this
00:14:18clinic. There are so many people, we are informed of
00:14:22shocking names from the business
00:14:25and shipping world who were visiting this
00:14:28clinic. There is another person in the frame, we will go to that in a very short
00:14:32while, but first, Mr. Merkoulidis, we would like to go and hear another
00:14:36complaint that weekend life brings to light from a woman who visited the
00:14:39specific clinic, they told her incredible things and in fact she
00:14:43had also gone to the second place that the couple maintained and
00:14:46there some seminars were held and they presented various things. Let's listen to her and
00:14:50we will return. Three years ago I visited
00:14:54at some point the... clinic. I had gone
00:14:57a total of four times in two years. I didn't have
00:15:00therapies, only what she did to
00:15:04everyone. A scan of the whole
00:15:07body, the whole organism with the soles of the feet and the
00:15:11palms of the hands. I had a problem in my stomach, I had
00:15:14stress, my stomach was red. Someone else has
00:15:17colitis, their intestine is red. Then she wrote
00:15:21nutritional supplements that were from...
00:15:25well-known companies in the pharmaceutical industry.
00:15:28The visit is €200 if you are
00:15:31recommended and then there is the cost of the
00:15:33supplements. Even me...
00:15:37they pressured me intensely for
00:15:39a directed
00:15:42purchase. At some point towards the end when I got
00:15:45annoyed, she told me that I had
00:15:49parasites in my blood. I didn't believe it. She told me to take
00:15:52a supplement, about €100
00:15:56and I wouldn't take it and then I returned for the
00:16:00last time and I told her I took it and she
00:16:03said that it passed. I got annoyed in the end when she told
00:16:07me. that I have in my blood, I think they
00:16:10told many people this that they had
00:16:13parasites, I read other testimonies about
00:16:17parasites and some others that they might get cancer and
00:16:20the last time I saw these people was because I had
00:16:24been invited about 1.5 years ago about
00:16:27maybe one at their second clinic,
00:16:31the more
00:16:33it was the husband, the spouse's epic.
00:16:38and they invited me to make it look like a crowd.
00:16:41It was a big crowd, it was like innate and there were some
00:16:45girls who were psychologists
00:16:48and booked sessions as
00:16:51psychologists. He had given a
00:16:54lecture titled "The Higher Self"
00:16:57and had some massages
00:17:01that he called relaxing and some aromatic baths in
00:17:04bathtubs. It was a very expensive clinic.
00:17:07The second clinic was ultra-luxurious
00:17:11and they had found ways for
00:17:13figs for silk ribbons.
00:17:17Many testimonies, however, with the doctors' tactics being roughly the same and
00:17:21directed purchases, many
00:17:24procedures outside the pharmacy and let's move on to the most
00:17:27crucial point, Mr. Merkoulidis, which are holistic therapies and
00:17:31is our connection with the other person who is in the frame as a
00:17:35witness because he is not accused of anything. I am referring to the
00:17:38hypnotherapist, because in these holistic therapies
00:17:42one could undertake the cleansing of the soul and another the cleansing of the
00:17:45body. Is there a way to find a direct
00:17:49connection, is there anything reprehensible for a
00:17:52person to refer a client of theirs to a
00:17:55doctor, if they don't know what is happening or if they know what
00:17:59is happening and it is illegal, do they bear
00:18:01responsibility?
00:18:03When you say someone refers do you mean from a friend or...
00:18:12he is not a doctor, he is a hypnotherapist and it seems
00:18:15that this hypnotherapist had communication with the doctor who
00:18:19performed the illegal therapy on Giorgos Mazonakis at the time he passed away.
00:18:22Yes, the relationship between these two, I believe that
00:18:25I believe that the specific clinic referred him to the
00:18:28hypnotherapist and not the hypnotherapist to the
00:18:32doctors because I believe that the clinic recommended Giorgos to this
00:18:36clinic.
00:18:39his friend, beyond that, that the
00:18:43clinic is connected to the hypnotherapist is a given because his friend
00:18:46is a friend, yes, I believe, yes, I believe
00:18:50so, do you consider or know a friend who
00:18:54had, I cannot speak
00:18:56further.
00:18:59absolute trust. So you are telling us that there was a person,
00:19:02a friend of the singer, who had trust in the doctor and perhaps
00:19:06encouraged him to pay a visit there. Yes, and
00:19:10he himself was a client, from what I have been informed, he was also a client of
00:19:14that specific clinic. Sir, I want to ask you something, you are a
00:19:17lawyer, you have particular legal training and you can
00:19:21help us. We have heard about the clinic, we hear about people
00:19:24around who had dealings with the clinic, meaning someone received
00:19:28clients, a pharmacy executed prescriptions. Is this a
00:19:31network, in quotation marks, as we call it now,
00:19:35verbally and easily, or can it be something more than what
00:19:38we see? No, it is, it is logical
00:19:42for there to be cooperation with a pharmacy when a medical
00:19:46center and the pharmacy distribute the
00:19:49preparations requested by the specific clinic or from the
00:19:52prescriptions that were issued. I think that there is nothing
00:19:56reprehensible, unless it turns out that illegal prescriptions were
00:19:59issued, illegal preparations and so
00:20:02on. I believe that it is logical
00:20:06for there to be cooperation between a pharmacy and a
00:20:09medical center. What really raises concerns
00:20:13and greatly surprises me is the fact that in the center of
00:20:16Athens, in Kolonaki, there was such a
00:20:18clinic for so many years that
00:20:22was at least performing illegal medical procedures and no one
00:20:25knew about it. This really
00:20:28worries me. The residents of Jerusalem know very well that it is not
00:20:32possible for the medical association, the competent authorities, the
00:20:35journalists, to not have noticed what was happening
00:20:39there? Was there never a complaint from the dozens,
00:20:42hundreds of businessmen and people who
00:20:46visited this clinic? It greatly surprises me and there, Mr.
00:20:50I think that the prominent clients and the famous clients, if anything,
00:20:53perhaps acted as a shield, not a shield against
00:20:56inspections, but as a shield against any negative
00:21:00criticism that could be directed at that specific
00:21:02clinic.
00:21:04I agree, Mr. Panopoulos, but is it possible, apart from the famous and
00:21:08distinguished businessmen, many people also went. I have a
00:21:11client who visited me after the incident and told me that
00:21:15he had been going for 3-4 years. Indeed, the visit was
00:21:18€200. He had... given €600, he had other
00:21:21types of therapies. He didn't do that, but in
00:21:25any case, he says with absolute and blind trust to the
00:21:28doctor, what can I tell you? Beyond that, I want to ask you something
00:21:32else. Since you knew Giorgos, why do you believe
00:21:36that Giorgos entered this
00:21:40process? Giorgos entered this
00:21:43for reasons of well-being, for reasons of improving his image
00:21:47of what can I tell you, and others who
00:21:51go, I mean I know people who have absolutely no problem and went
00:21:54there for reasons, I mean a person who
00:21:58also has a certain financial
00:22:01comfort.
00:22:03Giorgos was preparing for a concert on the 20th of the month,
00:22:07unfortunately he can't, so I believe, yes, and
00:22:11I believe today, unfortunately, and I therefore believe that he went for
00:22:15purely reasons, what can I tell you, from
00:22:18tox this.
00:22:28and makes you feel younger and more healthy and stronger, these are
00:22:32obviously the elements that made Giorgos go, I don't think he had any other
00:22:35problem, in fact and let's also ask something
00:22:39about what the doctor says, that when he went he was in a bad condition,
00:22:42is this aggravating? Since he was in a bad condition, why did he proceed with medical
00:22:46procedures?
00:22:50Exactly, exactly, because when, when there is,
00:22:53when you identify a problem, you cannot proceed with a medical
00:22:56procedure, which demonstrably caused Giorgos's
00:22:59cardiac arrest. Mr. Merkoulidis, wasn't there also a
00:23:02will that Giorgos
00:23:05Mozonakis left? No, no, no, he didn't
00:23:08have one. And we are asking you for the simplest reason,
00:23:12we are not interested in finances or anything, I just heard
00:23:15many lawyers advocating the view that it is good for a person to have
00:23:18a will, whether it is or not.
00:23:23I had suggested this to him after the adventure of Dromokaïtio, I had
00:23:27suggested to Giorgos that he should make a will, he answered
00:23:31that I will die at a ripe old age, why should I make a will now,
00:23:35I told him, what you are saying Mr. Panopoulos, that it is not a matter of age, it is
00:23:39a matter of organizing what you want, since you want
00:23:42specific people to receive your property, you have to do it and you
00:23:46change it every year and so today you say that.
00:23:55That is, every year you can change your will and
00:23:59dispose of your assets. The greatest
00:24:02legacy he left us is his songs. The rest do not
00:24:14hypnotherapist who has been talked about a lot and we already know that on Monday he will
00:24:18go before the interrogator.
00:24:20Let's watch a video that we have prepared with various things he was saying on the
00:24:24internet with his quotes, with things he
00:24:27himself believed regarding the catharsis, what
00:24:31he should do in hypnotherapy, but also for the first time you will hear a
00:24:34client of his. Let's see what she reveals. Is
00:24:37this a profession what you do? Of course.
00:24:40Certified, yes. So you are legal? Of course.
00:24:44What have you studied? I have studied psychology and sociology in
00:24:47America. Why do your clients usually visit you?
00:24:51Fears. Migraines.
00:24:55Bodily symptoms. Everything. When
00:24:59we ask our client to go to the root of
00:25:02their problem, they might even find themselves in another body,
00:25:06meaning they might be a man in this life and find themselves in a female body. What
00:25:10does conventional medicine think about what
00:25:13you do? Not great.
00:25:15It's an honor for me, because here are
00:25:19old friends. Classmates,
00:25:22colleagues, my clients.
00:25:25A mess. The shadow has intensity. When
00:25:28expressed, it has an energy, a vibration, a
00:25:32where the mynah bird and the parrot
00:25:35catch her and make her fly. Regression
00:25:39therapy is an
00:25:41attempt and an approach of traditional
00:25:45psychotherapy to go back in time, to regress, first of all. Who
00:25:48among you wants to go tomorrow
00:25:52and collect mushrooms to cook at noon?
00:25:56I'm going, you guys leave, you'll get a
00:25:59general taste of the world of mushrooms. of mushrooms
00:26:03and first of all, I will make you
00:26:07understand what mushrooms
00:26:09are
00:26:11and how rich this world is
00:26:14and how enchanting. I've been to Asos, I've done
00:26:18hypnotherapy, I had been informed about the process of
00:26:22hypnosis, all of these are certified, I'm from
00:26:25the field, I knew that these
00:26:29procedures help people who have phobias, who have
00:26:32problems that they perhaps cannot solve
00:26:35therapeutically, psychotherapeutically,
00:26:38it was a very nice process for me. A therapist I had
00:26:41once had recommended it, and I had heard very good
00:26:45things, I had seen many of his lectures.
00:26:48How long did the hypnosis process last? It
00:26:52lasts three hours, you have full consciousness, you lie back in a
00:26:56chair, he relaxes you with some
00:26:59techniques, it's not the same thing for everyone, hypnosis,
00:27:03some can relax more easily, others with more difficulty,
00:27:06I, for example, didn't relax that easily, but I entered a
00:27:09more relaxed state,
00:27:13uh, to be able to focus within
00:27:16myself, what is this thought that comes to me, what is this image that comes to me,
00:27:20there is no guidance, that is, for
00:27:23what one will see in hypnosis, and how much does this
00:27:27specific therapy cost? 150€. You can't
00:27:30get harmed in hypnosis, you just enter a state of relaxation,
00:27:34things come from the unconscious a little more
00:27:37easily, indeed, 150€ the cost
00:27:41of the session, okay, there are people who truly want to
00:27:45enter such a process, to explore themselves, I'll say it simply and colloquially, this
00:27:49is the work it produces, there is nothing illegal about it, there is
00:27:53nothing reprehensible, he himself has stated that he is willing to cooperate with the authorities,
00:27:56he'll go to the interrogator, he'll say what he knows, and we await it with great
00:28:00interest. So, we'll go to a topic that you'll introduce. He
00:28:09said that a few years ago he went to a resort and as a surprise
00:28:13those who had invited him suggested he do
00:28:16plasmapheresis, indeed he
00:28:19was forced to do it for very specific reasons, he spoke to
00:28:22those he needed to, he said, he didn't name them, this complaint didn't
00:28:25go anywhere and he feared for his life, let's hear
00:28:29what he told us, we have contacted the resort and have an answer.
00:28:32Along with my own person, we were invited,
00:28:36or rather, we were invited for a beautiful weekend at
00:28:40a truly wonderful place and
00:28:44a surprise, the surprise was
00:28:46plasmapheresis, I met the professor who was there, who was a
00:28:50truly respectable person, I searched for him
00:28:53on the internet, I don't remember his name, he was a foreigner, he was definitely a foreigner,
00:28:56yes, specifically Russian, a Russian, who also had three
00:29:00colleagues with him.
00:29:02He didn't search for it, he had his own clinic in his homeland where he did
00:29:06plasmapheresis for 15 years, yes, but in a
00:29:09clinic. The reason I did it was because
00:29:12I basically felt trapped, because
00:29:15my person did it,
00:29:19it was very difficult for me to say no after that, now
00:29:23all these people who became guinea
00:29:26pigs, they did it voluntarily,
00:29:30yes, no one pressured them to do it. I didn't pay, now what
00:29:33the others did, I don't know, there was no, not
00:29:37even a defibrillator, not even an oxygen tank,
00:29:40not even a plaster, there was basically nothing that could
00:29:44guarantee safety, if a person with your profile,
00:29:47leaving there, doesn't round them all up one by one to
00:29:51corral a person who brings medical equipment, who will
00:29:54do it? No matter how educated
00:29:56you are, no matter how many specialties
00:30:00related to medicine you have. No matter
00:30:03how rich you are, socially high or
00:30:07low,
00:30:09all of them are always one step ahead
00:30:13and for this reason you see
00:30:15that you don't hear often about such
00:30:18cases, even though there are hundreds or I can say
00:30:22thousands, I spoke then
00:30:25or now, no, both then and
00:30:28I will not tell you where, I will not.
00:30:32I'm telling you where you spoke, you didn't get anywhere, nothing happened,
00:30:35eventually
00:30:37I didn't want to get involved anymore, I didn't want to get
00:30:41involved because you simply know that
00:30:44the ditch is close.
00:30:47Giannis Rizos is with us because we contacted that
00:30:51specific resort, let's see what they told us, what arises
00:30:55initially from the conversation we had with that specific resort, obviously
00:30:59we are not mentioning the name.