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00:00:03Yes, a final question, Dr. Mahmoud. Does the handover of these
00:00:06points raise perhaps in the future or after
00:00:09a short period the level of diplomatic representation between Syria
00:00:12and Russia?
00:00:16Mr. Mahmoud, with us in this Yes, I think in this particular diplomatic direction,
00:00:19and there might be commercial and tourism cooperation, by the way.
00:00:22There are efforts being made and I believe that
00:00:26the Syrians are trying to arrange
00:00:29things. The Syrian embassy in Moscow, and by
00:00:33the end of the year, we might hear about the appointment of a new diplomatic
00:00:36body in the embassy. Also, we must mention that
00:00:39weeks ago,
00:00:41companies to invest in
00:00:42for the bombardment of targets by Syrian Airlines resumed its air flights once a week from
00:00:46Damascus to Moscow, meaning there is a desire
00:00:50for cooperation, at least commercial,
00:00:52civilian, tourist,
00:00:54and diplomatic.
00:00:57But, there are
00:01:00major strategic issues pending between
00:01:04the two parties, there's no room to discuss them now, but
00:01:07things are not going completely smoothly. There are
00:01:11obstacles and international pressures,
00:01:15and there is also something related to the past,
00:01:18meaning the presence of Bashar al-Assad in Russia and thousands
00:01:21of officers of the former regime army
00:01:24and intelligence
00:01:27Daraa or two criminals in in Moscow, and this also constitutes
00:01:30a major point of contention
00:01:32between the two parties, and in addition, of course,
00:01:35to
00:01:38priorities in military bases. I believe
00:01:39who participated in that until the bases are gone, other relations will begin,
00:01:42and by the way, there are dozens of agreements between Moscow
00:01:46and Damascus from the days of the former regime, but weren't they
00:01:50invalidated by the fall of the former regime?
00:01:52All of them were frozen,
00:01:55they were completely frozen. There is
00:01:58only the memorandum of understanding that was signed
00:02:02last month. The rest of them were all agreed upon
00:02:05by the two parties during the visit of the Foreign Minister to Moscow, and I was
00:02:09in Moscow and I know that they agreed
00:02:12to review all the agreements,
00:02:15to revise them, meaning no agreement is
00:02:18valid except after review, and therefore all
00:02:21agreements are now frozen except for the last memorandum
00:02:25of understanding. Yes, Dr. Mahmoud
00:02:27such thing as coincidence in Al-Hamza, the political analyst, The stability of Syria today not and will and professionalism in you were with us from Doha. Thank you very much.
00:02:31Mr. Mohammed, we will also continue in the second
00:02:34part of this episode. Alright, let's
00:02:49through which they can apprehend villages against
00:02:52Welcome back, viewers, to our second topic, where the internal security forces
00:02:55in Tartous Governorate, in cooperation with the Anti-Terrorism
00:02:59Department, arrested five senior
00:03:02officers and leaders of the Air Force in
00:03:05to keep this fleeing man on the former regime who participated in put in planning, managing,
00:03:08and carrying out
00:03:11of honorable aerial bombardment operations that resulted in widespread human casualties
00:03:14dozens of meetings at do to activists in and extensive damage. More details in this report.
00:03:18No escape for criminals from accountability, and anyone whose
00:03:21responsibility is proven will be held accountable according to
00:03:23the law. For many long years, aerial bombardment was one of
00:03:27the most destructive aspects of the war on Syrians. Today,
00:03:31the names of those who managed that weapon return to the forefront,
00:03:34but this time through the gate of justice. 15
00:03:38officers in the Air Force of the former regime
00:03:41were arrested by the internal security forces during September
00:03:44issue since 2011, in an operation that covered several governorates
00:03:47and focused on military figures who held
00:03:50various positions within the aerial bombardment system. In
00:03:54Tartous, the internal security forces,
00:03:56the ones who want to remove this in cooperation with the Anti-Terrorism Department, arrested
00:03:58five senior officers and leaders of the
00:04:02Air Force in the former regime who participated in planning, managing,
00:04:05and carrying out aerial bombardment operations that resulted in
00:04:09widespread human casualties and the destruction of residential
00:04:12areas. The head of internal security in Tartous, Colonel Abdul Aal Mohammad Abdul
00:04:16Aal, confirmed that the arrests included pilots, field
00:04:20place to preserve leaders, and officers in operations rooms, namely Major General
00:04:23Mohammad Fajer Ali, Brigadier General Pilot Abdullah Ali
00:04:27Maala, Colonel Pilot Nidal Hussein Saleh,
00:04:31Colonel Mohammad Ali Salim, and Lieutenant Colonel Pilot Talib Abdul
00:04:34Karim Hassan, noting that investigations are ongoing with
00:04:39in later periods and to operations that occur on the detainees to determine their criminal responsibilities for the raids and violations
00:04:43attributed to them, in preparation for referring them to the competent court
00:04:48officers, especially in according to legal procedures. The Ministry Hama Governorate. This of Interior continues its efforts to pursue officials
00:04:52of the former regime and its militias involved
00:04:55in committing crimes and violations against the Syrian
00:04:58people. On September 10th, it arrested nine
00:05:01pilots in Latakia and another pilot in
00:05:04Aleppo on the 5th of the same month, based on the principle of
00:05:08no impunity and achieving
00:05:11transitional justice and ensuring the rights of victims
00:05:14and their families.
00:05:18And to talk more about this topic, viewers, we are joined
00:05:21from Berlin by Major General Mohammad or Mahmoud
00:05:25al-Saud, the security expert. Welcome,
00:05:28file, and we also have from the first topic, Mr.
00:05:32Mohammad Nasser al-Baqai, the military expert. I'll start
00:05:35with you again, Mr. Mohammad Nasser. Militarily, how can
00:05:39this operation be assessed,
00:05:42the arrest of a new group of
00:05:46elements or officers of the former
00:05:48regime who participated in aerial bombardment
00:05:52operations and planning
00:05:55aircraft on Syrian civilians? Madam,
00:05:58we noticed from the beginning of the liberation that the Syrian state,
00:06:02through its president, His Excellency the President of the Sharia Court,
00:06:05told all former Syrian army personnel, "Go, you are
00:06:08free." The Ministry of Defense
00:06:11and the Ministry of Interior,
00:06:15after a security review, meaning "Go, you are free,"
00:06:19this is what I wanted to add. The Ministry of Interior and the Ministry of Defense
00:06:22took the addresses of those officers who made settlements and were not
00:06:26given full immunity. I mean, if you have
00:06:29a settlement, if there's nothing on you, colloquially, no one will come
00:06:33for you. But if it's proven that you have a confession or it's proven that you
00:06:37committed a crime here or a murder here or a murder, you will be summoned.
00:06:40Therefore, the Ministry of Interior
00:06:44and Defense created a database of information. This
00:06:47database included all the officers
00:06:52the former Syrian Arab Army. From here, the process of screening
00:06:55and investigation began, which was carried
00:06:58out by the intelligence agency. I mean, Officer
00:07:01So-and-so was an officer in place So-and-so. This place participated
00:07:05in bombing, killing, or creating mass graves. A number of
00:07:08former officers are summoned and interrogated,
00:07:11and consequently, the chain of events began to unfold,
00:07:15and confessions began to follow one after another,
00:07:18and these criminal names
00:07:22began to fall one after another, and the five
00:07:25officers who were recently arrested
00:07:29are four pilot officers and the first officer
00:07:33was the commander of the 74th Air Defense Regiment, Major General
00:07:36Mohammad Fajer Ali. This was next to
00:07:40the Air Defense College in his residence. He was not a pilot officer. When
00:07:44he was arrested in the operations
00:07:47he was carrying out, he was in the Homs operations room,
00:07:51participating in drawing up plans for bombing, killing,
00:07:55and besieging the rebellious
00:07:58the regime at that time. This means he is from the class that
00:08:01is considered advanced in the military college. All those
00:08:04officers, what does
00:08:08this mean for the Syrian state or for the ordinary
00:08:11citizen? There were many officers in the army whom the Syrian
00:08:14state did not request and were not
00:08:16prison. This means that there is real
00:08:20transitional justice. Why did they take so-and-so and not
00:08:23so-and-so? What does this
00:08:27the West? It debunks the theory, it debunks
00:08:30for them the theory that the Syrian state is arresting a certain
00:08:33group or a certain sect based on sectarian affiliation or
00:08:37background. So, transitional justice will include
00:08:41everyone. Whoever's hands are stained with the blood of the Syrian people
00:08:44will be brought for investigation, and as they say
00:08:48colloquially, he will face justice. Whoever did not
00:08:51participate will not be touched by anyone. Yes, okay.
00:08:54Major General Mahmoud, in your opinion, the timing of this operation
00:08:58and even the coordination, how can
00:09:01that be read from a theoretical perspective in this
00:09:04context?
00:09:07Welcome. Thank you for your guest and the esteemed
00:09:11viewers.
00:09:14Of course, first of all, let's pray for the souls of
00:09:17the martyrs of the internal security forces who
00:09:20fell in a treacherous and cowardly
00:09:23attack. And our prayers
00:09:26for the injured for a speedy recovery and condolences
00:09:29to their families.
00:09:33Of course, from what emerged from
00:09:37the investigations and from the military records, as you mentioned,
00:09:41there are military records classifying
00:09:44the officers who participated
00:09:47one day during the revolution
00:09:50in bombing and killing
00:09:53and in destruction
00:09:57of homes or civilian
00:10:00infrastructure. So, among these
00:10:02investigations, the five officers
00:10:06who were arrested accordingly, and there was
00:10:09a previous operation a few days ago in Latakia that also resulted
00:10:13in the arrest of nine officers.
00:10:17This is a series of operations carried out by the
00:10:20security authorities in cooperation with the Anti-Terrorism
00:10:23Department. It is also preceded by
00:10:27highly precise and rapid
00:10:30logistical intelligence work that allows for professional
00:10:33execution without disruption
00:10:36or confusion in the
00:10:39surrounding area of these arrested
00:10:43officers or detainees. And of course, now
00:10:46investigations are underway against them
00:10:50to refer them if their participation
00:10:53in bombing and displacement
00:10:56and killing
00:10:57and destruction
00:11:01of homes over people's heads
00:11:04is proven. If these procedures are confirmed,
00:11:08they will be referred for investigation, and then from investigation to the judiciary
00:11:11to receive their due punishment according to legal principles
00:11:15and law. Yes, okay, Mr.
00:11:19Mohammad, in your opinion, why did these people hide all this
00:11:22time? As you mentioned at the beginning, they had given their addresses
00:11:26and signed settlements indicating that they were
00:11:29not wanted, and now they have been arrested, and most likely not at the addresses they
00:11:33provided. How were they able to hide for so long,
00:11:36and do you think they knew they would reach this point? Of course, now,
00:11:40Ms. Rama, the Syrian state has many, many
00:11:43concerns and problems. I mean, the problems of the Syrian state
00:11:47are not limited to arresting four people in Tartous or four terrorists in
00:11:52Latakia. They might have thought they could
00:11:56escape like others who escaped outside Syria to
00:11:59Lebanon, outside Lebanon. We know
00:12:02that many of them fled to Lebanon, Russia,
00:12:06and Iran. Perhaps these people were not lucky enough to
00:12:09escape, so they remained waiting for an opportunity
00:12:12to escape anyway. I, as a former
00:12:15officer and a detainee in intelligence branches, I was detained for four years in intelligence
00:12:18branches and I was one of the first revolutionary activists in
00:12:222011. I want to state something very
00:12:25precisely, hoping that the security agencies, and I know
00:12:29they know more than I do,
00:12:32most officers and I
00:12:35lived through them and saw them in the air force intelligence,
00:12:38political intelligence, state security, military security, the Fourth
00:12:41Division, the Republican Guard, most of the officers
00:12:44who served in these units participated in
00:12:47killing the Syrian people, some to varying degrees,
00:12:50and I believe that security knows that. There are, of course, other
00:12:54sectors, the Third Division, the Seventh Division, the Ninth Division
00:12:58contributed to killing the Syrian people in destroying villages in Daraa, in
00:13:01Sahnaaya, in
00:13:05They contributed, to varying degrees, but those
00:13:08branches that were in Damascus here and had
00:13:12branches in all governorates were the fundamental
00:13:14pillar, perhaps believing that they
00:13:18would establish the rule of the fleeing Assad, and before him, his deceased
00:13:21father, in order to lead us to a destroyed
00:13:25Syria, either for a livelihood or
00:13:30the throne. But their hopes were dashed by the Syrian
00:13:34people's revolution and the presence Syrians,
00:13:37struggling like President Sharia and Al-Shaibani
00:13:41and thousands of fighters who entered
00:13:44Damascus, into liberated Syria. This is what
00:13:48I wanted to say. And those who fought for 14 years,
00:13:51of course, there are many Syrians who fought. I mean, when
00:13:55we used to register in intelligence branches,
00:13:57I mean, excuse me, inside the network,
00:14:01we were of a certain class, and outside the network,
00:14:05it was a different class. They differentiated this
00:14:09and now every Syrian knows who his
00:14:13enemy is, and the other side knows who its
00:14:16rival is. We are its rivals,
00:14:21fool from the throne so that Syria returns
00:14:25to all its children without discrimination between one sect or another.
00:14:28Yes, okay. Major General, I mean, if we return
00:14:32to the topic of
00:14:35these arrests or detentions, do
00:14:38things only stop at the issue
00:14:41of interrogating former officers
00:14:45and gathering information from them, or does it require more
00:14:49than that, security monitoring, follow-up, intelligence
00:14:51work, also in addition to that, can we link
00:14:55these officers not only to previous events
00:14:58before the fall of the former regime, but also to what happened
00:15:04the ground from time
00:15:05to time?
00:15:09Of course, let me explain to
00:15:13you the issue of
00:15:16transitional justice. Yes, transitional justice
00:15:20is not just a judicial institution,
00:15:23it's not just a legal platform, but it requires
00:15:26intelligence, it requires
00:15:30security authorities, it requires follow-up, it requires investigation,
00:15:33it requires referral procedures and so on. That is,
00:15:38a complete series of procedures, whether they are security
00:15:42procedures or judicial procedures or even legislation.
00:15:45So, no one will escape
00:15:49punishment if it is proven that
00:15:52he committed war crimes or
00:15:56crimes against humanity or contributed
00:15:58to killing
00:16:01and destroying homes
00:16:04and displacing civilians. This is one. Two,
00:16:08we must know that we are dealing with
00:16:11chronic criminals, not
00:16:14a criminal who planned a murder or
00:16:17a theft. And now
00:16:20terrified, trying
00:16:22to strike.
00:16:26The majority of them are currently thinking
00:16:30that they can return and feed on the blood of the people. They are
00:16:33trying, they are hoping, they are
00:16:35anticipating. These are not normal
00:16:39criminals. One, two, or three,
00:16:43the intelligence apparatus in Syria is not small and not
00:16:47weak. It tracks, it has
00:16:51records, it has lists of officers and individuals,
00:16:54lists of
00:16:57pilots, it has lists of those who defected,
00:17:01lists
00:17:04of, as they say colloquially, "Shabiha" (thugs).
00:17:07It has lists and rules, and there are
00:17:10priorities, as my esteemed
00:17:12guest said, there are
00:17:15dealing with these criminals. They are
00:17:19not out of mind, nor out of sight, nor
00:17:22out of consideration, but rather each one's
00:17:25turn comes at its time. There are
00:17:28priorities that the security authorities in Syria
00:17:32undertake. There is this, there is that, which is most
00:17:35important. Therefore, the security authority is always not an ideal
00:17:39authority, but a realistic authority.
00:17:42It strives for idealism through intelligence.
00:17:46The intelligence apparatus, the more competent the intelligence apparatus
00:17:49is, the more vigilant the eyes of the security
00:17:52authorities are, and the mind
00:17:56is open, and so is the desire
00:18:01work, because there is no
00:18:04technical work, especially in Syria, there is no such thing
00:18:08as coincidence. What the security authorities are doing now in cooperation with the
00:18:12anti-terrorism unit and intelligence agencies is not
00:18:15accidental, but rather a series of continuous , precise,
00:18:19professional operations with a scientific
00:18:23academic approach
00:18:26individuals who are involved or
00:18:29have been involved first and foremost in the building of the Syrian
00:18:33people. There is no escape or
00:18:36refuge. They committed crimes against
00:18:39the Syrian people. Yes, the Minister of Transitional Justice
00:18:43clarifies this matter completely. Okay, Mr.
00:18:47Mohammed, regarding the issue of investigations,
00:18:50verification, and security and intelligence follow-ups, I quote
00:18:54verbatim the statement by the Syrian News
00:18:58Agency SANA that the seized military records, such as
00:19:01flight logs and coordinate
00:19:04maps, contributed to proving the charges against these
00:19:07individuals, as you mentioned at the beginning, that there is always evidence that these individuals
00:19:11who were found at this point have been
00:19:15linked to massacres and operations,
00:19:18perhaps even genocide, against the Syrian people. Well, if we
00:19:22also talk about the mechanism of accessing these
00:19:25records and linking them to these individuals, to what extent
00:19:29can the huge amount of data held by the state
00:19:32be used to reach another number of
00:19:36these criminals? In any case, Madam Rama,
00:19:39on the day of liberation, there was a security
00:19:43unit that appeared to be planned and distributed
00:19:46from the beginning of the attack and the beginning
00:19:49of the liberation. Every
00:19:52company or group went to a specific
00:19:57the archives and documents. We know that many of the
00:20:01archives were stolen or burned or destroyed by an intentional act
00:20:04or on purpose. Criminal records, security
00:20:08and criminal matters, but
00:20:12by God's grace and God's will,
00:20:15those people escaped before they could burn those
00:20:19records. And as an officer, I know very well that in every unit,
00:20:23there is a record of the on-duty
00:20:26airports. I mean, every aircraft has a record of who
00:20:29went out on it, who bombed areas, the coordinates,
00:20:33all of this is recorded in the pilots'
00:20:36and aircrafts' records. I mean, those who used to go out to bomb
00:20:40villages and safe
00:20:44and secure cities, each of them boasted that he
00:20:47bombed such and such and destroyed such and such. And all of this
00:20:51was recorded in his military record. From
00:20:54here, the Syrian state obtained this archive
00:20:58and, of course, dozens, even hundreds, of Syrian
00:21:01security personnel who are mentioned, with their determination,
00:21:04followed up day and night to identify
00:21:08the names and cross-reference the names with each other. I mean,
00:21:11here, an officer was arrested who confessed about the officer at the specific
00:21:14airport. Both records were brought together, and there was a cross-referencing
00:21:18of information that led to
00:21:25of course, of course, of course, in any case,
00:21:28no one will escape, no one will escape punishment. Hopefully,
00:21:32God will grant them long lives so we can bring them
00:21:35one by one to prison, and I don't think anyone of them will escape.
00:21:39I have several options, either God takes his soul
00:21:42and he dies, or he escapes outside Syria, or he goes to
00:21:46prison. Yes, Mr. Mohammad Nasser Al-Baqai, military expert, my guest
00:21:50in the studio, thank you very much. Thanks are also extended to my
00:21:52guest in Berlin,
00:21:55Major General Mahmoud Al-Saud, security
00:21:59expert. Thank you very much. Our thanks are also extended
00:22:02to you, dear viewers, for watching us in this episode. We will meet you in future
00:22:06episodes. Goodbye.
00:23:10restore hope not only for Syrians but for the entire
00:23:12region.
00:23:17only serves Syria but also serves the entire region, and it is a shared
00:23:21interest for everyone. Syria now, as I mentioned
00:23:23to you, has great opportunities, and many
00:23:27have seized them, especially Gulf countries. Investments
00:23:30have started flowing into Syria successively.
00:23:33Our people in the UAE are opportunists,
00:23:37so Dubai Ports quickly invested in Tartous
00:23:41Port.
00:23:44And before an international scene awaiting the path of the new
00:23:47Syria, the Republic of Turkey was among
00:23:50the first countries to reopen
00:23:54its embassy in Damascus
00:23:57and opened its crossings and supply lines.
00:24:01Today, we are talking about
00:24:04presidential and ministerial levels and 40
00:24:08agreements and memoranda of understanding. Based on this
00:24:11solid foundation, our discussions today focused on activating
00:24:15the joint higher committee between
00:24:17our two countries, that Syria stands
00:24:20with its full sovereignty to chart its national paths with free will
00:24:23and chooses its partnerships and directs the compass of its investments
00:24:27and development based on its supreme interests.
00:24:41Diplomatic presence in
00:24:43Syria
00:24:45is not just a protocol procedure. Every
00:24:49representation
00:24:51means a new channel for communication and a wider
00:24:55space for dialogue and cooperation.
00:24:59Today, Damascus is witnessing the ceremonies
00:25:02of accrediting ambassadors for Arab and foreign
00:25:04countries in a scene that reflects the return
00:25:08of diplomatic presence to Syria.
00:25:11Syria opens its doors
00:25:14to the world, and the world expands its presence in
00:25:18Damascus.
00:25:35Today we are opening the Consular Services Office in
00:25:38office is the third office to be opened
00:25:41inside Syria this
00:25:42year.
00:26:16One of the first delegations to visit Damascus was the
00:26:19German delegation.
00:26:26We believe today that there is a great opportunity to develop
00:26:30this relationship between Syria
00:26:32and Germany.
00:26:38It is a very important opportunity to be exploited by German
00:26:44Syrian sectors.
00:26:56We have passed the stage of introduction and building trust, and now
00:26:59it is the right time to start working.
00:27:32And Air Defense, a shining and advanced
00:27:36model befitting this country and this blessed
00:27:40army. I swear by God Almighty, I swear by God
00:27:43Almighty, that I will defend
00:27:46my homeland, that I will defend my homeland.
00:28:17God willing, this festival will be an annual
00:28:21festival held every
00:28:24year in one of the landmarks of Aleppo city
00:28:27and its regions.
00:28:43Because the distance between the street and the decision-makers
00:28:46is a wall that hides the truth. We are here
00:28:50and
00:28:53everywhere, filled with questions
00:28:56and problems,
00:29:01to carry the voice
00:29:02of the people
00:29:08and search for a space for solutions with decision-makers.
00:29:11A link,
00:29:17we shorten the distance
00:29:20and bridge the gap
00:29:22because
00:29:25your voice is
00:29:26the compass.
00:30:10Hello, viewers. I am Hiba Al-Musalama. I greet you from here in
00:30:13Raqqa Governorate. This is a special interview with Abdul Rahman
00:30:17Salama, Governor of Raqqa,
00:30:21to ask him about the reality of the city
00:30:25socially and economically, and what
00:30:29the people of Raqqa want. Welcome, Governor, to the Al-Ikhbariya
00:30:32screen. Welcome, teacher. Thank you very much. Thank you for welcoming
00:30:36us. We start with you
00:30:40from the position of Secretary General of the Presidency
00:30:43of the Republic, then Deputy Governor of Aleppo,
00:30:46and now Governor
00:30:49of Raqqa. You took up this position, Governor,
00:30:52at a very sensitive time
00:30:55for Syria, especially Raqqa Governorate.
00:30:59محافظه.