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00:00:00all the walls of the building, I went out and counted all the people in the street, I
00:00:03was in pajamas, without shoes and nothing, the fright I had was so
00:00:07great,
00:00:09eh, you are a content creator, you have recorded some videos that we are going to
00:00:13share throughout this talk, where it is seen that you grabbed
00:00:17your dog and started to go down the stairs
00:00:19desperately,
00:00:21eh, that was something instinctive, did you know what had to be done or as
00:00:25soon as it started to shake, the first thing you thought was, we have to
00:00:28get out of here, I mean, the first thing I always think of is having my cell phone in
00:00:32my hand and well I saw my little dog at one point, doctor, I said no
00:00:35I have to run because I was on a fifth floor and since it moved so hard I say I either go out
00:00:39now or I have to stay here, so I said no, I have to run because it's shaking,
00:00:42the earthquake was so strong that you could
00:00:46hear everything falling, everything falling, everything falling and I said no, I have to run, I run
00:00:50or something could happen to me.
00:00:53Eh, how is your building? We see that from the videos the walls have
00:00:57suffered great cracks, but I say what happened finally after
00:01:00the earthquake, what has happened to the building you lived in?
00:01:04Eh, an inspection was carried out by the engineers and they realized that the structural
00:01:08part of the columns had not been affected, however
00:01:11many walls, a part of the aqueduct, also
00:01:15several pipes broke so it is necessary to make some repairs to be able to put the
00:01:19water back, organize stucco walls, but thank God the columns were not
00:01:22directly affected, however in my city buildings completely collapsed,
00:01:27uh, well, totally, for example in front of the Catholic University a building collapsed completely, and
00:01:31there are approximately five deceased in the city of Manizales
00:01:34and well, rescue efforts continue to see if there are more people
00:01:38affected. Can you go back to your
00:01:41apartment today, beyond whether you want to or not, I mean, are the conditions
00:01:45such that you can go back to your house to sleep or has everything been so
00:01:49destroyed that you couldn't even do that, beyond the fact that there is no structural
00:01:53damage? Let's say that my apartment, since it was on the
00:01:56top floor, did not have as much damage, it was more
00:02:00than anything the first two floors, so I can sleep because there was no structural
00:02:04failure, but however for today, for peace of mind, I think I'll be with my
00:02:08family, I uploaded some videos to my accounts on tiktok, Instagram,
00:02:11YouTube, Facebook, which is María Cerra Yaguevara, and at the end
00:02:14I showed my family when I met them and well, let's say that for today I think I'll stay with
00:02:18them, although I can go back to my
00:02:20apartment.
00:02:23What has happened to your neighbors? Have you been able to talk to any of
00:02:26them, know what situation they are in, let's say, at the moment
00:02:30you ran out, but I mean, after it happened, have you been able to see
00:02:33some acquaintances and so on, see how they lived it, yes,
00:02:37of course, eh, thank God nothing major happened to my neighbors,
00:02:41but however in my city there is a lot
00:02:45under these conditions as president of of damage, they have already enabled
00:02:47the assembly and of the president three shelters for people who need
00:02:49which is located north of somewhere to stay today, who are not calm at home, eh, because there are several places that had structural
00:02:53failures, moreover, the cathedral of the city of Manizales, which is one of the
00:02:56main tourist places here, which is the largest cathedral in all
00:03:00of Colombia, also suffered damage, the city had, a part of it fell
00:03:04down, eh, and it was one of
00:03:08the country and logically the the biggest cultural losses, let's say, due to the earthquake.
00:03:11María Camila, thank you for being with
00:03:14us, for your testimony, we are glad that you are well,
00:03:18it was María Camila Alevara from Manizales, she is a content
00:03:21the data, ready for whatever creator, she was on a fifth floor, she survived and is here with us
00:03:25to tell about it, thank you for being with us, a short break, we continue with more in
00:03:28conclusions, please, see you later.
00:04:53sleep across the street at the
00:06:43and it's good that you mention it again, as you said at the beginning of the program, saying, well,
00:06:46assuming that this
00:06:49transition happens, because there are a series of questions that you have
00:06:52explained very well, so that, at the outset, to say, well,
00:06:56maybe this is not as immediate as
00:06:59we think. Second, the point of transparency, of maintaining
00:07:03transparency, which put us in motion,
00:07:07which has been tremendously a positive
00:07:09asset and a great asset for the institution. And
00:07:13then, fundamentally, the structure of
00:07:16a strong Fed
00:07:20with that complexity it currently has,
00:07:23regionally, is a strength, it's a
00:07:26fortress,
00:07:35in the midst of the destruction left by the earthquake in Cali, scenes that
00:07:39restore hope also appear, at this point on 5th Street.
00:07:4244, one of the sectors where emergency work is concentrated,
00:07:46the fire department teams work among the rubble and manage to rescue
00:07:50a person alive amidst the joy of the people. The
00:07:53images show the rescuers' operation as they carefully remove
00:07:57the remains of the structure and search for possible
00:08:00survivors.
00:08:10To understand the world you need to
00:08:13seek the truth, to return to an era where we had to be
00:08:16much more human, that's why we follow the facts,
00:08:20wherever they lead us, no matter how far we have to
00:08:23go from the internal story. there are new
00:08:26statements from President Donald
00:10:16Just three days after being sworn in as president of Colombia, Abelardo del
00:10:19Espriella faces an emergency of enormous dimensions due to an earthquake of
00:10:23magnitude 7.4 that shook the country. The president decreed a
00:10:26national state of disaster that will allow him to mobilize resources to deal with
00:10:30the situation. In the most recent report, 132 deaths and
00:10:33570 injured are accounted for. Dela
00:10:37Espriella called for unity in the midst of the tragedy and offered his help to the victims of the
00:10:41earthquake.
00:10:43Today, all Colombians, without ideological or
00:10:47political distinctions, must unite for a single
00:10:50cause, which are the victims of this natural
00:10:53disaster. The national government will deal with this tragedy as
00:10:56appropriate and we will help all Colombians, with
00:11:00God's help, the commitment of all government
00:11:04officials, the commitment of society as
00:11:07a whole and of our friends from governments
00:11:11and international organizations, we will
00:11:15help our compatriots who have been
00:11:18affected by this tragedy, this is the
00:11:21strongest earthquake felt in Colombia in the last decade, but... The
00:11:25area already has a history of high intensity movements, on November 23,
00:11:281979, an earthquake of magnitude 7.2
00:11:32struck this same region. Although the destruction
00:11:36did not reach other countries, the director of the Colombian Geological Service
00:11:39Julio Fierro Morales says that the earthquake was felt in Venezuela,
00:11:42Ecuador and Panama.
00:11:46It is the strongest earthquake that has been felt in the last decade in the
00:11:49country and for that area there are precedents of earthquakes,
00:11:52particularly on November 23
00:11:55in 1979, an earthquake of magnitude 7.2, we have
00:11:59two aftershocks, one of 2.8 and another of
00:12:024.8 that was felt recently, eh, it was
00:12:05felt in other countries, there are reports of it being felt in
00:12:09Venezuela, in Ecuador, in Panama and well it was felt throughout
00:12:13Colombia.
00:12:16Official estimates calculate that about 2 million people could
00:12:20feel the earthquake. In Bogotá, several collection centers were set up
00:12:23and at least 26 buildings totally collapsed in Cali, while
00:12:27testimonies continue to arrive from people who experienced the
00:12:30terrifying moment. The neighbor, we went out
00:12:34to have a meeting
00:12:37with our complex on this field. My wife
00:12:40suffers from panic, so she says
00:12:44she felt an aftershock when we were upstairs. The news I
00:12:47was watching on television when I was there, in the
00:12:51apartment, I saw something about Venezuela and at that moment
00:12:54I said, oh God, something is going to happen in Venezuela, my
00:12:57skin tingles because it was
00:13:00an earthquake, because this tremor was hard.
00:13:04duro,
00:13:07Several presidents and international leaders sent their
00:13:09condolences to the Colombian people after the earthquake that left more
00:13:13than 100 dead in the country. The US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, published on
00:13:17his social networks that they are monitoring the situation to
00:13:20support Colombian citizens and their president. The president
00:13:24of El Salvador, Najib Bukele, also expressed his solidarity with
00:13:27Colombia and assured that his government is ready to provide immediate
00:13:31support. Bukele said that El Salvador can send rescue teams,
00:13:34doctors, paramedics and supplies. The president also sent his
00:13:38condolences to the families of the victims and asked for strength for the Colombian
00:13:41people. From Mexico, President Claudia Sheinbaum
00:13:45joined the voices of solidarity and also offered Colombia her
00:13:49support.
00:13:51We are very attentive both with our embassy there and
00:13:55with the ambassador here and of
00:13:58course all the support that the
00:14:02people of Colombia need and we will be there.
00:14:43I am Mexican British, I have been practicing
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00:17:38now with Fernando Quintero, who was at his home in Cali,
00:17:41when this earthquake occurred and we want to know how he
00:17:45experienced it and also how he is doing afterwards, because his house suffered
00:17:49significant damage, Fernando, thank you for being with us, good evening, eh,
00:17:53first I want to ask you about the situation you were in this morning when everything
00:17:57started to shake.
00:18:00Hello, how are you, good evening, can you hear me well there? We can hear you, yes, yes,
00:18:04Fernando, thank you for being with us. Well, I am
00:18:07precisely here in front of the apartment, I am standing in the place
00:18:10where I was located, as soon as I left the
00:18:13apartment, I live on a second floor, I'm going to try to
00:18:17show you the images of that second floor where I lived
00:18:20and these were, let's say, the most considerable damages to this building
00:18:26the city of Cali.
00:18:29Well, quickly, it was 7:30 in the morning, I was ready to go to the
00:18:32office, eh, I work in the communications team of the Cali
00:18:36mayor's office. My wife was going to take me and when
00:18:40she started shouting "tremor, tremor", the three of us ran
00:18:42out, eh, we woke up my daughter who was sleeping,
00:18:46eh, we grabbed our pet, a French
00:18:49bulldog, and ran down the
00:18:51stairs, but the most surprising thing is that as we were
00:18:55going down the stairs
00:18:57we saw how the walls were falling apart, how cracks
00:19:01appeared in the walls, how the walls broke
00:19:05and when we came out here where I am standing, I kept looking at the
00:19:08building and I saw how it was moving and I saw how the
00:19:12apartment was the
00:19:16structure. This building has already been
00:19:18evacuated, eh, all the people who lived here, a nine-story
00:19:21building, eh, left to seek refuge in other places,
00:19:25we are still here because well, a neighbor gave us
00:19:29shelter, a neighbor across the street from where we lived
00:19:32and we are waiting to see what happens tomorrow.
00:19:35Eh, well, you can
00:19:38imagine, no emergency team arrived here because
00:19:42well, there are much more serious damages, I
00:19:45was saying earlier and I was talking about it with my wife and friends,
00:19:49we really got off lightly, but what we experienced was like a movie, it was a very
00:19:53big scare, plus here in Cali we had experienced an
00:19:56earthquake and the material damages
00:20:00because the house that you are seeing there where the apartment
00:20:05recover some clothes, shoes, equipment that I
00:20:09work with, there are other things that were lost, but the most
00:20:12important thing is that we were able to get out without a scratch, we are alive
00:20:16and regretting what is happening in my city, I understand that the situation is quite
00:20:20complicated here in Cali, I have not been able to see all the news because I am here
00:20:23pending the apartment, I don't know what will happen
00:20:27here, well we are going to
00:20:30house of a supportive neighbor who gave us the possibility of
00:20:34giving us shelter, but the truth is that what
00:20:37we saw today, we had never experienced it here in Cali.
00:20:41Fernando, how do you go on from here and I also ask you about the
00:20:45security conditions. In Cali, a curfew has been ordered
00:20:48in case there is any kind of disturbance
00:20:52or looting, are you afraid that you might suffer
00:20:56some kind of robbery, looting or something similar after
00:20:59what you have been through? Is it a risk that could
00:21:03happen, do you assume it, how do you live this first
00:21:06night? Yes, yes, it's
00:21:0915 to 9, the curfew in Cali started at 8, decreed
00:21:13by Mayor Alejandro Eder, I
00:21:17won't sleep tonight, I still have valuables in the apartment,
00:21:21since this is a second floor that is very close to the street and since
00:21:25there is no security and since everyone left the
00:21:28furniture, the apartment, eh,
00:21:31well, there is no one who there is a gentleman in the back
00:21:35hired by the security company who will stay, but I offered
00:21:39to also stay with my wife here doing
00:21:42rounds until tomorrow very early to see what else we can get out of the
00:21:45apartment, eh evidently there is
00:21:48fear because there is an alarm of looting, I hope nothing happens, so far
00:21:52I can tell you guys that at least where I lived, where I live
00:21:56in the north of Cali, eh, everything is very calm, you don't see many
00:21:59people, everything is in silence, there is a tense
00:22:02calm, eh, and I know there are other places much more
00:22:06affected and evidently now that I had time to
00:22:10to look at the videos, eh, I understood the
00:22:13magnitude of this catastrophe that we had never experienced here in
00:22:16Santiago de Cali, believe me the scare was very big. But
00:22:20fortunately, we, or at least I, my family and the neighbors of this sector
00:22:24were able to get out alive.
00:22:26Fernando, I really believe that it was a terrible scare. Now, taking
00:22:30into account what you are telling us, how does your
00:22:33life and your family's life continue from here,
00:22:37eh, where are you going to go, beyond getting some valuables out of the apartment,
00:22:41after that, what? Look,
00:22:44first I thank
00:22:48God, my family and I are very grateful to God because
00:22:51I thought today was our last day, at the moment we were going down the
00:22:55stairs I thought that our lives were ending, I thought the building was
00:22:59going to collapse and that I was going to lose everything. Fortunately
00:23:02the earthquake was not longer because if it had been longer,
00:23:06we would have lost absolutely everything. For now we are going to stay with a
00:23:09neighbor, my mother who lives further south already offered
00:23:13us the possibility of staying at her
00:23:17house, we are going to... a
00:23:20motorcycle is passing by here and you always have to be alert
00:23:24because we are already under curfew but a motorcycle passes by here so
00:23:26there's always a rogue, so I'm going to move from where
00:23:30I was, no,
00:23:33eh, today we are staying here with a supportive neighbor whom we didn't know but
00:23:37who offered us his house. Here I am with my wife, with an uncle,
00:23:41with my daughter. Tomorrow I will surely go to my mother's house. Eh, I work at the Cali mayor's office in the
00:23:45communications team. Eh, they told me that nothing had happened.
00:23:49Well, you can imagine the rest of my colleagues are working today in
00:23:52the midst of the catastrophe, informing the citizens and
00:23:58world what happened in Cali, so tomorrow
00:24:00I will dedicate myself to removing what I can
00:24:04save from the apartment, I'm going to
00:24:07my mother's house, even if it's in a room, the three of us.
00:24:11I know there are people who are worse off than us, literally we are homeless, but there are people who
00:24:14are worse off and well, start a new life, look for a new apartment, the
00:24:18apartment is not mine, I paid
00:24:20rent and well, life goes on, I repeat,
00:24:24we are alive, I know there are people from Cali in a worse situation
00:24:28than ours at this hour and I hope that there
00:24:32are not as many dead as I have heard throughout the
00:24:35day. I hope so, Fernando, thank you for being
00:24:38with us, that was Fernando Quintero from Cali after experiencing the strongest
00:24:42earthquake in Colombia in the last decade, thank you for being with us, for giving us
00:24:46your testimony and all the best, and while
00:24:49Colombia. the consequences of this earthquake, the comparison with
00:24:53the devastating earthquakes that struck Venezuela just over a
00:24:56month ago begins, although both occurred on the South American plate, experts explain that
00:25:00the geological context is very different: the earthquake in Colombia occurred at more than
00:25:03100 km deep while the movements in Venezuela were much
00:25:07shallower, differences that help explain why, although both
00:25:11events were of great magnitude, their effects are not necessarily
00:25:14comparable. I will talk about this with my next guest, Dr. Gustavo
00:25:17Ortiz, seismologist and director of the Observatory.
00:25:22National University of San Juan, Argentina, doctor, thank you for
00:25:25being with us, what are the particularities of this
00:25:29earthquake in Colombia that, although it occurred at a
00:25:32much greater depth than the one in Venezuela, we also see that it has
00:25:36caused great disaster?
00:25:39Well, good evening, thank you very much for the contact, eh, that's right,
00:25:43no, this is very striking, isn't it, comparing two events
00:25:46that, although the geological texts are not the same,
00:25:50eh, this has caused a lot of disaster from what has been
00:25:53seen, hasn't it, eh, from what is being seen in the videos,
00:25:57eh, although the magnitude is almost not
00:26:00comparable, a 7.4 in this case at 100 km
00:26:04deep, the energy released has been
00:26:07directly towards the surface, hasn't it, we are talking about an
00:26:11earthquake at more than 100 km where a large amount of
00:26:15energy is released eh from
00:26:18bottom to top, hasn't it, eh in this sector
00:26:22and in a quite wide sector, isn't it, when we see the
00:26:25earthquakes in Venezuela, they are located in a zone of a
00:26:29strip, haven't they, here we are seeing it in a large area, haven't we, a much
00:26:33larger area, isn't it, it would almost be like a funnel type effect,
00:26:36isn't it, eh, totally different now,
00:26:38uh, they have had
00:26:42events, uh, a few years ago, very similar, not even
00:26:46with depths, uh, also very similar, so these types
00:26:49of events are to be
00:26:52expected. Many of them
00:26:56are also recognized as seismic cities, no, everything
00:26:59that is the west of South
00:27:02America, not just speaking of Colombia, no, but also
00:27:06one moves from Quito to the south of Argentina,
00:27:10uh, following the entire root of the Andean
00:27:14orogen, uh, it is to be expected that events of these magnitudes will also
00:27:17occur, no, and now what we can expect are aftershocks,
00:27:21right, yes, aftershocks will
00:27:24occur, uh, however, these aftershocks,
00:27:30again, comparing with the earthquake in Venezuela.
00:27:33These aftershocks that are at this great depth, most likely many
00:27:37of them will go unnoticed,
00:27:40however, when one goes to the context of Venezuela, aftershocks are still occurring
00:27:43today, uh, Venezuelans are feeling them and are
00:27:47suffering from them because, well, these are more
00:27:50superficial aftershocks that are felt with smaller magnitudes but
00:27:54are still felt. In this case, the aftershocks here in Colombia will
00:27:57decrease, they will
00:28:00almost disappear, let's say, from...
00:28:03from the population, they will not be perceived, but well, a state of alert
00:28:06is always maintained because earthquakes are also unpredictable,
00:28:10no, these earthquakes are unpredictable and it is not known if structures
00:28:14with a greater magnitude can be reactivated, no, so that's
00:28:17why the region always remains in a state of alert
00:28:21in the coming days and weeks.
00:28:25Perfect, Doctor, thank you for being with us. It was Dr. Gustavo Ortiz,
00:28:28seismologist and director of the Coniset Seismological Observatory, National University of San
00:28:32Juan, from Argentina, who has accompanied us and has explained a little about what has happened and what
00:28:36can happen. Thank you for being with us. We will take a
00:28:39break and then continue with more
00:28:40conclusions.
00:28:43What is your opinion about having been elected
00:28:49of the Supreme Court of Justice of the Constitutional Chamber? For the moment, I am
00:28:53not going to make any declarations because there is this resolution of the
00:28:56state that would be better to avoid. Now, are you
00:29:00going to appear on Monday to
00:29:02take office? Yes, in fact, we are going to the
00:29:06court to take office.