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00:00:01to the yoke of the dictatorship and that now you needed to use things that
00:00:04you had in your head to bring freedom, and that's when
00:00:08you went into
00:00:09Ozopo was left and other brothers of exile.
00:00:12You achieve, of course, I mean, from the San Isidro movement
00:00:15outside of your art,
00:00:19as an activist, I think you achieve great moral authority,
00:00:23which gives you, I don't know if it's more
00:00:26this question, the strength or more guarantees of being
00:00:30heard. What do I mean by this? For
00:00:33you, these five years have been an investment to
00:00:37achieve greater coverage with your
00:00:40voice, or has it been a waste of time, or has this
00:00:43activism kidnapped you during these 5
00:00:46years, because depending on how you look at it, it has given
00:00:50you great strength or it has taken it
00:00:54against how it is being worked, after away from you. What do you think? First of all,
00:00:57during the 5 years I continued doing activism, I continued doing
00:01:00art against the dictatorship.
00:01:04In fact, there are a lot of my works that range from
00:01:07painting to performance and
00:01:10gestures, events, public actions
00:01:15was sown in with which I continued to be present within Cuban
00:01:19society, inside and outside of
00:01:22Cuba, the Cuba. They were not five years in vain, although
00:01:26indisputably I also understood that the
00:01:30presence of the individual, including your vision as an artist,
00:01:33activist, cultural or political manager, has
00:01:37a force, that is, it is the act of the
00:01:40individual and his vision, that sometimes one sees things that people do not
00:01:44see, it was important and that is why I decided to
00:01:48leave prison. In fact, there is a work in prison that
00:01:51is called a charcoal portrait of Schrödinger's
00:01:54cat, where I sold my time, where I put
00:01:57on the table the value of the time
00:02:01invested in the struggle, especially from the exercise of resistance that are prisoners and resist the
00:02:05dictatorship in prison, because prison is a design, it is
00:02:08designed to fracture your head and fracture your body, and from
00:02:12the beginning I always projected the idea of leaving
00:02:15healthy, the idea of leaving healthy
00:02:19mentally to continue fighting for freedom, and that
00:02:21exercise of resistance is an example for the Cuban people, for activists
00:02:25who many times do not even want to put in the effort. They want to
00:02:29write a lot, talk a lot, but they don't really put their
00:02:32skin on the line, and people
00:02:36need people, the people of Cuba need those
00:02:39examples for them to also put their flesh and put their
00:02:43example. If the leaders who at a certain moment assumed the
00:02:46society. What responsibility, we were born with empathy to
00:02:49amplify the voice of the other, because one has the charisma, one has the tools to
00:02:53we coexisted in function of amplify the voices, but it is not only amplifying the voices but also putting your
00:02:56skin on the ground and at that moment then, people
00:03:00are also capable of sacrificing themselves for you and for their own future,
00:03:04so I don't think it was in vain, I think it was an example of resistance, it was an
00:03:07example that we came out alive, I came out alive, we were an example of
00:03:11friendship because my friends we talked on the phone
00:03:14twice a week and they were always there supporting, the works I released, the
00:03:18performances, the public interventions I did during these 5 years, my friends reproduced
00:03:21them, we even made state security nervous during the 5
00:03:25years because we kept producing things despite the prison.
00:03:29and it is that term that there
00:03:33were imprisoned, and finally the must be resilience, that is, that space from being in the
00:03:37worst of places, the place with the least possible mobility, we continue creating and
00:03:41of Cuba, I don't believe in freedom, I believe in we continue pushing the Cuban reality and thanks to that, the dictatorship will last a shorter time in
00:03:45power.
00:03:48It's very important what you said, that's why I told you it has given you great moral
00:03:52authority because you don't fall for anything, you were already
00:03:56please, Luis Manuel Otero Alcántara accompanies me, there, you faced them, you resisted them and you are
00:03:59out. You are not a cardboard
00:04:02but it is in the hands of the Cuban people, it is in figure in the resistance,
00:04:06you are a figure who has gone precisely through persecution, detention
00:04:09and the abuses that have been committed along the way
00:04:13to today continue with his voice,
00:04:16but you said it, inside
00:04:19they try to break you, they try to break you both mentally and
00:04:23physically, what, what was the most difficult moment, Luis
00:04:26Manuel, in which you saw yourself close
00:04:30to breaking, either mentally or
00:04:33physically, what was the most difficult moment, what was happening
00:04:36to you when you were in
00:04:39captivity? First, there is something
00:04:42I want to add to the previous question, and that is that right now I leave with an
00:04:46experience of suffering that I know what it's like to be in prison,
00:04:50and of course the level of empathy increases for political prisoners and especially for
00:04:54prisoners who are Cubans who have been
00:04:57in that prison for 60
00:05:00years. Right now I am going into exile to live the experience of
00:05:04exile and to be able to live and to be able to tell you the experience of
00:05:07it, but above all, that generates
00:05:09be carried out and when the much more empathy about the phenomenon.
00:05:12Prison, political prisoner, and I cannot sleep knowing that more than a thousand political
00:05:16prisoners were left in Cuba, my brother Michael
00:05:21the struggle who are political prisoners were left, because if the dictatorship does not fall, there will continue
00:05:25to be political prisoners, so prison also helped me to
00:05:28understand suffering from the skin, from the broken
00:05:31bone, from suffering, from the anxiety
00:05:35that confinement gives you, here I answer
00:05:39most difficult moment in prison is all the moments...
00:05:42prison for me, for political prison
00:05:45had several stages, but living
00:05:49away from my son, not being able to see my son's adolescent growth, becoming
00:05:52a young man, living away from my daughter who lives in Europe,
00:05:56not being able to eat what I wanted, or for
00:05:59example, drinking a glass of cold water, the simple act of drinking a glass of cold
00:06:03water when you are in a tremendous heat and not being able to drink it
00:06:06there, that is an extremely difficult exercise, there
00:06:10you also understand the air, you start to value things that you used to
00:06:13underestimate, but for you it is normal to drink a glass of cold water, but prison,
00:06:17confinement, seeing yourself locked in a cell and you see
00:06:21how the place shrinks, how
00:06:24anxiety, sadness, depression, all
00:06:27these feelings that confinement gives you, imagine that the world
00:06:31lived through covid for 2 years and people came out traumatized,
00:06:35people who later had therapy and were in their homes
00:06:38with their families, with food, watching Netflix, watching whatever they wanted.
00:06:42Imagine that in a cell with people you don't
00:06:46want to live with, with murderers, with people who have committed the worst crimes
00:06:49for 5 years, but that confinement in a cell that is 3 meters by 4
00:06:53meters that you cannot move in generates feelings
00:06:57that even make you think about suicide at some point,
00:07:00and you have to sit down and be responsible
00:07:04with your body, responsible with where
00:07:07to take the message, especially with the responsibility that
00:07:10God, life or the spirits, whatever, gave you to
00:07:14be able to save things, to be able to amplify voices, from a work of
00:07:18art, change the reality that surrounds
00:07:22you, then prison as a
00:07:24structure, being locked in a place of 6
00:07:27meters, 2 meters, 4 meters, is one of the most
00:07:31difficult experiences, I have said it these days, if prison were not
00:07:34difficult, it would not be the most
00:07:38cruel exercise that human beings impose on other human beings, it would not be the worst of
00:07:42punishments. for the worst of crimes in this case, it is imposed on
00:07:45us for the simple fact of wanting to change reality and wanting another political
00:07:49project, another economic project or wanting eruptions of projects in a single
00:07:53country.
00:07:56Yes, yes, you say it, you say it well, if not, no, no,
00:08:00they wouldn't use it, it's difficult to hear you also say that
00:08:03at some point you even considered suicide due to
00:08:07that pressure and that depression, it's
00:08:11something unimaginable. Well, to see you like this today, well to see you here today
00:08:14and hear you like this, I'm going to take a break, Luis Manuel, I'll ask you a
00:08:18question and you answer me when we come back from the break.
00:08:21A very important struggle, at the time the
00:08:25San Isidro movement, I remember covering it
00:08:27here, everything indicated that
00:08:31it could completely change the history of Cuba,
00:08:34no, and suddenly it was dismantled,
00:08:38some were forced to flee, of course.
00:08:42Others, like you,
00:08:45movement has remained just that, a more artistic movement,
00:08:48what was missing, what failed
00:08:51or why, why couldn't the San Isidro movement
00:08:55achieve the goal that
00:08:58many thought at the time would be
00:09:01achieved, this time it would be achieved, but it was not
00:09:04so, I'll hear you when we return, if you
00:09:08Cuban dissident, artist now free here in the United States.
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00:14:55use economy, but the Fed, which has price
00:14:58stability as one of its two mandates, meaning defending us from
00:15:02inflation, believes that if it does that, if it makes a
00:15:06sharp cut, it would trigger inflation,
00:15:10and a scenario with growth problems and at the same time
00:15:13inflation, that is, what is called
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00:15:17that is precisely what Powell's Fed
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00:15:40I'm back with Luis Manuel Otero Alcántara, who is with me, a Cuban dissident
00:15:43artist now in the United States, in Miami, already in exile,
00:15:47in freedom, and I was asking him about the San Isidro movement,
00:15:51of course, first to understand that it was seen
00:15:54as the great opportunity for the San Isidro movement
00:15:57to achieve a goal that has not been achieved to this day,
00:16:01which is basically a regime change, what
00:16:05was missing, what failed
00:16:07them as an opposition, as a movement, Luis Manuel, to
00:16:11achieve the objective, because at some point, and I
00:16:14say it perhaps personally, but at some point we all believed that history
00:16:18this time would be different, and it was not so. What
00:16:21do you think failed? First, I don't think anything
00:16:25failed. I think that history was different, history
00:16:29today is different,
00:16:32eh, 5 years have passed and in 5 years young people, Cubans keep going
00:16:35out into the streets, they keep protesting. which is a phenomenon that hadn't happened in Cuba 20
00:16:39years ago, I believe that the San Isidro movement was a civic movement, a
00:16:43cultural movement, a political movement whose
00:16:47greatest, whose greatest victory
00:16:52the minds of the people, the
00:16:55possibility that in their hands lay the freedom of
00:17:00San Isidro movement we were
00:17:03men, women, young people, artists, cultural managers,
00:17:06politicians. who came from walking in the streets, who
00:17:09came out of the streets and committed themselves to the people and the people saw that
00:17:13commitment learned to be
00:17:17more civic, learned to lose fear and that's when
00:17:20several things happened, even on the 11th it was the peak of the
00:17:24protests, but there were protests for example outside the Ministry of Culture
00:17:28like two months, three months before or four, five months before the
00:17:32Ministry of July 11th, there was a protest by the GTBIQ
00:17:35community in Prado. there was a protest by the
00:17:39environmentalists, there were many movements, there are still
00:17:43several movements and
00:17:46for me the for me the overthrow of the dictatorship in
00:17:49Cuba is, was and will be a path, a
00:17:53process until we reach the point where people take control of
00:17:57their lives, take control above all civic level so that they feel
00:18:00that they cannot go out for rice, for beans and for
00:18:04electricity, they have to go out to seek the freedoms that are needed and... The San
00:18:08Isidro moment was a driver, it was an
00:18:10amplifier
00:18:13for freedoms, teaching people that we could
00:18:16have freedoms, at that moment there were Muslims, there were Catholics, there were Christians,
00:18:20there were Babalawos, there were Santeros, there was all kinds of
00:18:23ideology, there were even right-wing people who consider themselves left-wing, who consider
00:18:27themselves right-wing and all that
00:18:31cultural freedoms, we were an example and political freedoms
00:18:34we were an example that people learned, we are animals that... we situate ourselves by
00:18:37imitation, you suddenly have a way of dressing and
00:18:41you implant a certain aesthetic and there are people who will follow
00:18:44that, then we used the media,
00:18:46social networks that fortunately came at that moment when
00:18:50we were being born as a movement, being born
00:18:54as a cultural and political family and that amplified our
00:18:57voices and many people imitated us, then came
00:19:00imitated in the good sense, came November 27, came
00:19:04several cultural and political movements that are still alive, who even today
00:19:08resist from exile, but exile is also
00:19:11part of that Cuba that must be educated in function
00:19:15of a common point which is the freedoms
00:19:19freedoms, the sum of many freedoms will lead to the
00:19:23overthrow of the dictatorship, but I still say that it is a
00:19:25process, we have been working for more than 10
00:19:28years, there is a peak moment that was on the 11th where people
00:19:32saw that cliché that the dictatorship was leaving, it was leaving
00:19:35and it will happen of course but...
00:19:40the hands of the people, of the 9 million, of the 4 million who are
00:19:43outside, it is in the hands of all of us, to overthrow that dictatorship and
00:19:46agree with many
00:19:49sectors, connect many people, because another thing is to connect
00:19:53the people who walk in the streets with the opposition, with the people of culture,
00:19:56with intellectuals, all that connection was achieved by San Isidro
00:20:00and it is still present within the Cuban reality, San Isidro
00:20:03for today continues to be a movement, continues to be a family.
00:20:07with interests, of course, in a new struggle which is to survive
00:20:10exile, to use the tools of exile to continue
00:20:14educating the Cuban people, the Cuban people are civic illiterates,
00:20:18we don't know what democracy is, we don't know what freedoms are, we don't know
00:20:22why we go out into the street that we go out instinctively
00:20:25for electricity, bread, rice, beans,
00:20:29eh, and no, we educate and we will continue to educate
00:20:32people, the Cuban people inside and outside, what freedoms are, because
00:20:36even here in Miami, in exile there are people who don't even know what
00:20:39freedoms are, they don't even know what freedom is, well, then
00:20:43it's a process, it's a process that will
00:20:47time comes for people to be prepared, when the time comes.
00:20:50it will happen, it could be in a month, it could be in 15 days, it could be in a year, it could be in
00:20:542 years, I have faith that we will continue working and work is what will
00:20:58truly solve the problem of getting rid of the
00:21:00dictatorship.
00:21:03And apart from that, Luis Manuel, with this I'm going to another break and you answer me when I come
00:21:07back, apart from the San Isidro movement, there is a
00:21:10movement, of course, that we cannot fail to mention, and that is the pressure that
00:21:14the United States is exerting and how it is doing it, especially with the
00:21:17energy issue, and what do you think about it? Do you agree with this
00:21:21strategy, do you think it works, should they continue, is it
00:21:24completely wrong, do you support it? Tell me what you think
00:21:28about what President Donald Trump's government is doing
00:21:31regarding the regime, of course, the
00:21:35participation of Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, who knows the
00:21:38structure best, but tell me if you support it or not, or if you are
00:21:44the break, it is Luis Manuel Otero Alcántara who accompanies me, a Cuban dissident
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00:25:16Luis Manuel Otero Alcántara, Cuban dissident and artist who is with me. And I was telling
00:25:20him, what do you say about the pressure that the government of the President of the United
00:25:24States, Donald Trump, is exerting, especially with the energy issue, do you support these
00:25:27actions, do you think they will work or not, what do
00:25:30you say? First of all, the Cuban
00:25:34dictatorship has been sustained for 70 years thanks to the support of
00:25:37powerful countries like the Soviet Union, then
00:25:40Venezuela, Nicaragua, it has always been sustained by that.
00:25:43The Cuban dictatorship has never, never proposed anything economically in Cuba and it is a
00:25:47parasite of the communist countries, the countries
00:25:51in which they are infiltrated. Therefore,
00:25:55as we saw, the powers need,
00:25:58they have supported it, I believe that a power also needs to support us, the people,
00:26:02to get those people out of power.
00:26:05I'm going to tell you something, when I was in Guanajay, when people saw the oil
00:26:09ship that came in, they felt
00:26:11defrauded, they said, an oil ship cannot come in, the Cuban
00:26:15dictatorship cannot receive oxygen, so people want something to happen
00:26:19now. The sad thing is how long it has been delayed.
00:26:22Right now in Cuba there is a genocide, people in Cuba right now have no water to
00:26:26drink, literally, people in Cuba right now have no air to
00:26:29breathe, the streets are full of garbage. And
00:26:33the other thing is that if Cuba now receives oil, receives money, they will not
00:26:37stop being a dictatorship, they will not stop repressing the people, they will not stop
00:26:41abusing people. People already want to get rid of the dictatorship there,
00:26:44Cuba can bring money, they will continue to be abusers and people will want a
00:26:48change, so what I do believe is that we need total
00:26:51help from international institutions, from the European Union,
00:26:55from the Americans to end that dictatorship, that's what I believe,
00:26:59sanctions, intervention, surgical, to get those people out.
00:27:02to be able to support us, the opponents, to return to Cuba,
00:27:06some boats, some ships, to return, to put an end to
00:27:09we need all the international
00:27:12support to end the dictatorship. You talk about a government like the
00:27:16Mexican one that is currently supporting human
00:27:19trafficking through doctors, you say, brother, that's
00:27:22wrong, the government, the Cuban dictatorship is
00:27:25abusing the Cuban
00:27:26family.
00:27:31Yes, it has been one of the most controversial issues that has arisen
00:27:35internationally with the government
00:27:37of Andrés Manuel López Obrador and continuing with the
00:27:40situation there in Mexico, the issue of Cuban doctors. Of course, there are missions in
00:27:44other parts, there were also missions in Venezuela, but the Mexican
00:27:48government's took on particular importance. Well,
00:27:52Luis, Luis Manuel, time has flown by, but I would like to stay in touch with you, that
00:27:55we continue to have these sessions as time goes on to continue
00:27:59recording history, as we have always done, of what happens with
00:28:03the Cuban people and well, welcome, welcome to the United
00:28:06States, Luis Manuel, thank you, we are connected,
00:28:09family, and we must continue working against the dictatorship, which is little, if we truly
00:28:13connect and continue working, I believe in work, I don't believe in the faith that a divine person
00:28:17will come and save us, I believe in work and I believe in sacrifice
00:28:20and they will leave, they will leave power and we will build a democracy for
00:28:24Cuba to be a beautiful and prosperous country, we are super connected and grateful,
00:28:27family.
00:28:30Thank you, Luis Manuel, Luis Manuel Lotero Alcántara. Cuban dissident and artist, now in
00:28:34exile here in the United States in Miami, I'm going to take a break, I'll be back.
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