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00:00:09I continue talking with Luis Alberto Villamarín, a retired lieutenant colonel of the
00:00:13Colombian army, and I asked him because, for example,
00:00:17Guatemala, the Guatemalan government was very firm, right? In
00:00:20terms of, there will be collaboration, but there will be no
00:00:24foreign troops ever. They
00:00:27settled it once and for all from the Ministry of Defense. I don't know if
00:00:30it's due to the emergency, which is feasible, it could
00:00:34be, they haven't settled it like that, so I ask you if you are
00:00:37completely sure,
00:00:39gold. The Lieutenant Colonel, that Abelardo de la Espriella's idea
00:00:42is not something else.
00:00:44and timely information on In what sense? We have
00:00:47seen him since the campaign and all this
00:00:51time completely open to any approach and
00:00:54collaboration, even unprecedented, with the United States. So I don't
00:00:58doubt that things will be different. What do
00:01:01you think? No, definitely, Abelardo de
00:01:04la Espriella cannot do that. He is a lawyer. The
00:01:08thing is that he also knows how to manage image and populism, right? And he knows how to
00:01:11generate scenarios in which he is
00:01:14politically present, but he knows as
00:01:18a lawyer, as an expert in laws, and he knows the
00:01:21Colombian constitution very well, that not a single foreign soldier can enter
00:01:25armed. Yes, it is within the agreement signed in
00:01:281952. From then on, the United States can
00:01:32send specialists to instruct those who
00:01:37society. What operate the equipment, it can advise on the planning of operations, but never
00:01:40intervene in the command of the troops, much less in
00:01:43direct participation. The thing is that the left has historically
00:01:46used that argument, they have even invented a story about US
00:01:50bases in Colombia. In Colombia, there has never been a
00:01:53base like the one in Ecuador in Manta or like the one Mr. Novoa is
00:01:56promoting or like the one they are going to build in Peru. There has never been
00:02:00a US military base, there has been a presence. So he
00:02:04cannot go beyond that, and politically no one would
00:02:07accept it and Congress would open an investigation and it would
00:02:11complicate things. It seems to me that it is more part of his
00:02:15Assembly of Venezuela, who is Caribbean and tropical way of being and of constantly generating the
00:02:18political scenario to be
00:02:22the data, ready for what present. Yes, of course, taking
00:02:25political advantage of this type of announcements is very common in
00:02:28any scenario.
00:02:31This Latin American, that is, they do it, almost all
00:02:34leaders do it when this happens, but then how do we understand
00:02:38Lieutenant Colonel, this announcement? That is, basically what
00:02:41stopped being done with Petro and that was done before with other
00:02:44governments, right? Because it was done with
00:02:48Cepeda, sorry, with Cepeda, it
00:02:51was done with this Duque, it was done with
00:02:55Santos, it was done with Uribe, it was done with
00:02:58Pastrana, well. At different levels, but it didn't stop being done, that's what
00:03:02I mean. However, with Petro, it
00:03:05that? Now the other thing, the reached a point where there was a terrible break.
00:03:07We are seeing nothing but the normalization, let's say
00:03:10so, of these collaborations that have already been a tradition, so
00:03:14to speak. Of course, Fernando, the thing is that de
00:03:19than ever, it must be said clearly, a sector of la Espriella wants to take advantage of Trump's strategic intention to
00:03:21fight drug trafficking at all
00:03:25levels. So he can ask for much more support and
00:03:29logically he would give it to them, more intensely than we had
00:03:32before. Because, for example, to take down Mono Jojoy, it
00:03:36was naturally with US intelligence, but it was a whole
00:03:39process of protocols, of agencies, of
00:03:42intermediaries until the agreement was finally reached. Here, what would be sought is
00:03:46more expeditious intelligence and more support, for
00:03:49example, of ammunition for the planes, better
00:03:52armament for the soldiers who descend to the combat
00:03:55site, high-end technical
00:03:58system. Let's go with equipment, to enter the terrain, that
00:04:01is, an update, drones that did not
00:04:04exist at that time. That is what is being asked for and that is what he will get, but the
00:04:08Colombian military forces have the capacity, Fernando, to carry out
00:04:11operations. We saw Operation Haki, Hake, purely carried out by
00:04:15Colombians.
00:04:19Yes, of course, one cannot minimize the work and
00:04:23I believe that it would also be a very serious political mistake on the part of Abelardo de la Espriella
00:04:27who has given so much strength
00:04:29to the security forces in Colombia. Now,
00:04:33to close, I ask you this last question, Lieutenant
00:04:35Colonel, this collaboration
00:04:39in the result
00:04:41between Abelardo de la Espriella's policy, yes, of a firm hand
00:04:45and of going after all these groups outside the
00:04:48law, the collaboration of the United States, which can be much more intense due to de la Espriella's
00:04:52own disposition, do you foresee
00:04:55conclusive results in the
00:04:58short or medium term?
00:05:00I would say in the medium and long term, therefore, but
00:05:03logically, it is required that in the October elections,
00:05:07Trump does well so that he does not have problems in Congress and
00:05:10also that at the end of Trump's government it can be prolonged, because if you
00:05:14overlap, when de la Espriella leaves in 2 years, Trump is
00:05:18leaving, so there would come the problem that if the Democrats win, by mere
00:05:21political action, they could block it and complicate
00:05:25the matter, but there will be results, there will be, because the
00:05:29intelligence that the United States has is magnificent and with
00:05:32resources, the Colombian troops demonstrate that when they have
00:05:35political will, resources and
00:05:39technical reinforcements, the blows are wonderful.
00:05:44Well, we are going to wait for those results that, furthermore,
00:05:48necessarily,
00:05:51for Abelardo de la Espriella's popularity, I mean, to maintain it, it has to
00:05:54happen because it is the great promise of Abelardo de la Espriella, among
00:05:57other things, but it is one of the great banners since the
00:06:00campaign and of his government. Listen, Lieutenant Colonel,
00:06:03a hug, thank you for always accompanying me, I send you greetings.
00:06:07Likewise, Fernando, very kind and very grateful for your
00:06:10solidarity with our people who are suffering the
00:06:13tragedy.
00:06:16Always, always all my solidarity, empathy, affection and
00:06:19our support, as far as possible, this window is to
00:06:22help them whenever possible, of course, that
00:06:26it hurts us a lot. I said it yesterday, I maintain it and I will always do so.
00:06:29Thank you, thank you, Luis Alberto Villamarín, Lieutenant Colonel, retired from the
00:06:33Colombian army accompanied me. I am going to take a break, I'll be back,
00:06:37we are going to talk about what Venezuela announces
00:06:40at this closing of its first. first round of
00:06:43talks, they have agreements.
00:06:47Eh, there is one that can be key to fulfill it,
00:06:51it does not only depend on Venezuela, but
00:06:54it is also a very confusing thing, no, look, let's talk about this better when we
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00:07:43remembered my dad, son, when it gets harder
00:07:46uphill, you have to pedal harder, and
00:07:49I continued until I found
00:07:51yes.
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00:13:38of meetings, Chavismo and a sector of the opposition, now more
00:13:44the Venezuelan opposition close a first round of
00:13:47dialogue with the support of the United States, of course, and
00:13:51I would not say the support of the United States, but with the
00:13:55Washington agenda because this is part of
00:13:58those stages that Marco Rubio defined. So not only the
00:14:01support but with the agenda that the United States has set.
00:14:05The product of these meetings, the first of them, the ones
00:14:08to which the press was not allowed access, resulted in two
00:14:12important agreements: to assist the victims of the June earthquakes, which was
00:14:15necessary, of course, to establish it, and then
00:14:19to advance in a reform of the justice
00:14:23the first one because to help the victims, it is necessary to involve a
00:14:27third instance, the
00:14:30president of the National Assembly of the Regime, Jorge
00:14:32Rodríguez, said it in these terms,
00:14:35listen:
00:14:38both parties will focus efforts on
00:14:41promoting the recovery of Venezuela's international reserve assets
00:14:44in the Bank of England,
00:14:48establishing mechanisms of transparency,
00:14:51traceability, auditing in the efficient
00:14:55use of
00:14:56them.
00:15:00That is, to attend to the emergency, the victims,
00:15:04etc., they are still looking for the money that they have not
00:15:08released, no, which has been the great struggle for a long
00:15:11time, among other things, of the regime,
00:15:15to recover that money. Let's see, if the Venezuelan gold that is in the
00:15:18Bank of England is not recovered,
00:15:22it seems, Jorge Rodríguez does not say it like that, but it seems that then. So they
00:15:25cannot help the victims. Remember
00:15:28that they have had frozen access since 2018, when the
00:15:32British government did not recognize Nicolás Maduro's electoral victory
00:15:35and. They say they will use the resources for
00:15:39housing, electricity, health, and debris collection in
00:15:42the areas affected by the earthquakes. That would be
00:15:46the end. Now, there he talks about traceability, about
00:15:49transparency, of course, I imagine that in the current context
00:15:53supervised by the United States, there will surely have to be mechanisms
00:15:56that perfectly define where that
00:15:59money is going, but let's remember that this is not the
00:16:03first time that this request has been made by the regime.
00:16:07The most recent was at the beginning of July, in
00:16:10July Delcy Rodríguez asked
00:16:13the British king, Charles III, to release that
00:16:17monarch has not responded publicly or has his
00:16:21position on the request been known.
00:16:23That is, it seems that the fulfillment of the
00:16:27first point of the agreement is tied to the resources managed by a third party, because
00:16:31that is how Jorge Rodríguez makes it
00:16:33clear, no. Now, what if the resources do not arrive then?
00:16:37So no, no, it can't be done or how, because that was not clear,
00:16:40no. There will be an external factor to which the
00:16:44difficulties in fulfilling what was agreed upon will be attributed, that is, in a few
00:16:48words, to blame England, no.
00:16:51We have not been able to do it because they have given us the money in England, will it be
00:16:54that? These are questions,
00:16:57no, that's why beyond the signature and the forms
00:17:00around the communiqué, because the form
00:17:03there, the form is very important, we have to read between the lines.
00:17:09It will be necessary to observe who assumes that responsibility to
00:17:12execute
00:17:14with or without the resources they are
00:17:17requesting.
00:17:19That is the first, the second, the second commitment that is reached regarding
00:17:22justice. The former deputy and representative of this sector of the
00:17:25opposition listed the issues in general
00:17:29terms, but listen:
00:17:32reforms to the Organic Law of the
00:17:36Supreme Court of Justice. Justice and
00:17:40other laws of the justice system; b) to
00:17:43renew and expand the judicial
00:17:46nominations committee; c) to
00:17:48activate a new nomination process for the
00:17:52renewal and appointment of all
00:17:55magistrates of the Supreme Court of
00:17:57Justice.
00:18:01On paper, it could seem like a relevant step, of course, on paper,
00:18:05but here too there are questions about the details of those possible changes, especially
00:18:09if the new rules will produce a truly independent
00:18:13justice. And there is an evident absence, for now there is no
00:18:17agreement on elections or on democratic guarantees, there is no mention
00:18:20of political prisoners, so it seems that these first consensuses are built
00:18:24around issues where there is still
00:18:28room for agreement. Let's
00:18:31see, how can there not be agreement on an emergency in which people affected by an
00:18:34earthquake or a double earthquake
00:18:37have to be attended to, right? How can there not be agreement on
00:18:43issue of the reform of the
00:18:46judicial branch remains very
00:18:49ambiguous.
00:18:51Yes, how, how are they going to agree on
00:18:55how they are going to guarantee that it will not again be an
00:18:58appendage of the regime?
00:19:02They have sat at the table more than 10 times,
00:19:05no, the real challenge is to know if the parties are
00:19:09willing to bear the costs of fulfilling what was
00:19:11agreed upon.
00:19:14Who has to pay the highest cost? Well, the
00:19:18regime, no, well it should be. I am going to take a
00:19:21break to return with my guest. He is already in
00:19:24Venezuela, he told me in a live stream that he wanted to return, he
00:19:27told me crying and he returned, he is in Venezuela,
00:19:31Roberto Marrero, lawyer and secretary of the National Assembly of Venezuela, happy,
00:19:35smiling, I'll be back with him.
00:19:41I always wanted my bicycle import company and one day I said
00:19:44why not, but the road gets difficult, they close doors on you
00:19:48and you give up, until I remembered my
00:19:51dad, son, when it gets harder uphill, you have to
00:19:55pedal harder, and I continued until
00:19:58I found yes, Oscar, we approved your credit, your
00:20:01business is ready to write its next chapter and
00:20:05we are ready to accompany you, let's go. Your story, writes
00:20:08ours.
00:23:02lawyer and secretary of the National
00:23:05joining me from Venezuela. I am very happy to
00:23:09greet you, Roberto. Of course, I knew you were in Venezuela because
00:23:13I follow your steps, but we had not spoken since you left
00:23:16Miami. How are you? You look very good, happy.
00:23:21Well, honestly, I'm happy to be in Venezuela and happy with the things that
00:23:24are happening. I'm not going to deny that I feel
00:23:27optimistic in this process, because
00:23:30although we have had many negotiation tables,
00:23:33many dialogues, none with these
00:23:36characteristics.
00:23:39But what is the main characteristic? That the United States is
00:23:42behind it, no, and that Maduro is not there.
00:23:46Maduro is not in Venezuela, Maduro is in New York, Maduro is out of
00:23:50power and that is, it is not a small thing, no, it is not a small
00:23:53thing that we are sitting at a dialogue table with
00:23:57deputies who had to be in exile, the previous dialogues were not in
00:24:01Venezuela for a simple reason, the representatives of the opposition
00:24:05could be arrested, persecuted, at this moment they are, they go to
00:24:08Venezuela, they can sit down, there is a transition, there is a
00:24:12there are two commissions that sit for a week
00:24:16and the people saw it, the public saw it, the country saw it,
00:24:19the world saw it. And also yesterday's announcement is not a small thing, it is
00:24:23a total renovation of the
00:24:26judicial power in Venezuela, all the magistrates, the
00:24:30nominations committee is expanded, the process is reopened so that new candidates can
00:24:34register, that is, the process that Jorge
00:24:38Rodríguez's assembly was carrying out did not enjoy the
00:24:41credibility for decent people, who
00:24:44really wanted to form a good TSJ, a
00:24:48Supreme Court of Justice for the people.
00:24:50to run. Now yes, now understanding that it is a process with
00:24:54supervision.
00:24:56But what will be the guarantee? I still find something
00:24:59shocking, it is very I was listening to Enrique today, Enrique
00:25:03Capriles, this and
00:25:06Enrique said, how can those who destroyed the
00:25:09country rebuild the country? It is an enormous
00:25:12contradiction. How, how, what guarantee will there be? I mean, you have there, Maduro is no longer there,
00:25:16Maduro is not there, but Diosdado is, Jorge is.
00:25:20exit, claro, I understand Enrique's point and that's why, what
00:25:24guarantee, what guarantee does the
00:25:26participation of the same people who were
00:25:30part of Maduro's group give you? What
00:25:33guarantee does it give you that now it will be different, that there will be a real independence in the selection of magistrates,
00:25:37etc.? It's that the nominations committee is being
00:25:40reopened, it is being expanded, it's not something they
00:25:43wanted to do, it's something that is happening evidently due to
00:25:46the accompaniment of the United States, that is, it is not a... I understand the doubts of
00:25:50some sectors, but no, no, no, they are not the ones who are going to appoint
00:25:54the magistrates, they are magistrates with a standard that complies with the
00:25:58constitution, simply by having the magistrates comply with the
00:26:01constitution, have no political militancy, have no complaints of
00:26:05human rights violations, have an impeccable resume, that complies with the
00:26:08constitutional requirements, you already have a guarantee that it is a supreme power, a
00:26:12power of autonomous justice, for the first
00:26:15time in 27 years we have the possibility of having a supreme
00:26:19court of justice and I remind you that this tragedy began with a
00:26:23violation of the Supreme Court of 1999 that allowed
00:26:26a fraudulent constituent assembly that changed the
00:26:29constitution and they handed over to a gentleman like Chávez who came
00:26:33from giving a coup d'état to make a constitution and change all the powers and he
00:26:36put them for himself, now we have to institutionalize the
00:26:40country, we have to go, as President Figuera said,
00:26:43eating the elephant piece by piece, this, in this
00:26:47stage, the elephant is the new supreme court of
00:26:50justice and with that we would achieve a step, for example, so that there are no
00:26:54more political prisoners, for example, I still have not been able to recover my
00:26:58assets and I have had a pardon since
00:27:002020.
00:27:03But, but listen, but let's put ourselves on the other side, it could
00:27:06work against them to have a real independence in the justice
00:27:10system, why? Well, because there are many crimes to prosecute
00:27:13there, no. Eh, why do you think they would
00:27:16allow it?
00:27:19That is something that is happening, I am on the side of Venezuela, on the side of the
00:27:22constitution, accompanying the National
00:27:25Assembly 2015 in the process, which is our legitimate assembly. No, I am not on the
00:27:29side of the regime and its preferences.
00:27:33But what I can tell you is that it is a different process, a process that is not
00:27:36to their liking, it is a process that is happening due to the need
00:27:40to have legal personality and elections, which is what we need
00:27:44to be able to move forward. The big oil industries are not going to invest
00:27:47the billions of dollars that need to be invested to rebuild
00:27:51the oil industry in Venezuela, if they don't have guarantees. There are no
00:27:54guarantees, there is no one, there is no legal entity that can commit
00:27:58the state, and that is why we need a new
00:28:02election. It is not just a matter of democracy and human rights, it is
00:28:05also that the world, capitalism, the big
00:28:09traditional oil companies are interested in Venezuela having clear rules,
00:28:13legal security to be able to invest. So the economic interests of the
00:28:16transnational oil companies converge with the interests of Venezuelans, which is
00:28:20that we want elections and to renew the powers and a transition to democracy.
00:28:24I am, I am completely in agreement with you. Now you say
00:28:28something very important, right? The assembly, the last one recognized as
00:28:31legitimate by... several countries, the one from 2015, eh,
00:28:35ah, what a good inclusion, exactly, but again there is a terrible
00:28:38exclusion. Nobody can deny the representation that María
00:28:42Machado and Edmundo González have, nobody can deny it, but they are excluded from the
00:28:45process. They already have a big flaw,
00:28:48Roberto, it's not that it's not a flaw, because this is not about electoral
00:28:52leadership, look, the great beneficiary of the
00:28:55elections in Venezuela, first will be the people of Venezuela who will be able to elect
00:28:59all the authorities, but nobody doubts that the leadership
00:29:03that leads the polls in all public opinion studies, if an election
00:29:06is held today or in 6 months, she will be the big winner. This is not
00:29:10a process against María, it is a process to re-institutionalize
00:29:13Venezuela. I'll give you an example, the primaries
00:29:16that the opposition held, we did them because it was the right thing to do and all
00:29:20the parties knew that María Corina would win. The Venezuelan opposition is not
00:29:24afraid of leadership nor is it afraid of transition, it is afraid of staying
00:29:27where we are stuck with this residual Chavismo or with
00:29:31Maduro. That's why we moved forward. The opposition has done the
00:29:34right thing, when it held the primaries it did not do it thinking about political calculations, we all knew
00:29:38that she would win the primaries and Enrique Capriles knew it, Manuel Rosales knew
00:29:42it, Henry Ramos knew it, they all knew it and the primaries were
00:29:45pushed. Why? Because it was necessary to renew the leadership. Today it is the
00:29:49same, we are from the National Assembly, which is the constitutionally
00:29:52legitimate institution to appoint magistrates and to
00:29:55appoint rectors because it is its competence, an exclusive competence of the
00:29:59legislative branch, and well, it will do it. What is
00:30:02happening? Because this was not possible on January 2nd, this is an unforeseen
00:30:06situation, as you well know, where we need to re-institutionalize the
00:30:09country and the elephant in pieces means
00:30:12justice, we all want justice, but to whom do we
00:30:15ask for it? To this CCJ that is absolutely theirs, a
00:30:19TCJ that for example, in 2015, the ruling that
00:30:23the TCJ issued was to annul the effects of the victory of the people
00:30:26of Venezuela on December 6th with that assembly with two-thirds of the opposition and it
00:30:30annulled it again. Exactly, something broke there,
00:30:34there began the transition from an authoritarian government to a
00:30:37dictatorship.
00:30:38And
00:30:41uh, that, that's clear to me, that is, you can't, well, there is no
00:30:45independence of powers at this moment in Venezuela, we have to work on that, uh
00:30:49tomorrow will dawn and we will see, Roberto, I have to go but I will
00:30:53continue bothering you as I have done for so many years so that we continue
00:30:57talking as this progresses so that we have our.