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00:14:25that is very prominent is the
00:14:28slavery, people
00:14:29have been enslaved, people have been working for free, and also resistance, that's
00:14:33very important, buse everywhere there was en people
00:14:37enslave, there was resistance,
00:14:41and like mention mato
00:14:43mentioned, the resistance was all over, it's just
00:14:47that it wasn't written tomote, it was stated
00:14:51outside the archives, it stated outside of... the
00:14:55scope the the the the
00:14:58researchers, this book for instance with
00:15:02stasia, what i did is to give the people a
00:15:05voice, because it's going about the people, it's not going about
00:15:09the who were the heroes, it's not about the
00:15:13the the the Europeans who enslaved the people, but the people who were
00:15:17enslaved without having a voice, and in this book I'm
00:15:21getting them a voice, that's nice, tell a little bit about the...
00:15:25research a little bit more about what we can find that's the main
00:15:29topic in this book, well the research in
00:15:32itself it took about two weeks to do the
00:15:36research. so i went to statia for two weeks
00:15:40and did 20 interviews, so
00:15:43like two, sometimes three per day, and speaking
00:15:47to the people about what they knew about their own
00:15:50history, what they knew about when
00:15:54stasia was the golden rock where you had
00:15:5733,00 people living in stasia,
00:16:01today we have 3,100, so like
00:16:0410% of what it was in.
00:16:08in the uh in the 17, 18th century,
00:16:11and also was very important to them is the fact that
00:16:1569 persons were dig who
00:16:19died were digged up for research,
00:16:23definitely, why? um, well, that's that's that's
00:16:27a good question, because it's still a controversy institution, there is
00:16:30report, but lot of people haven't seen that report,
00:16:34and whether that report is going about why, i don't think so, i think more about when
00:16:38are they going to be reburied? well oh
00:16:42because the the African battleground association
00:16:46alliance anastasia they have now come
00:16:50to date and everyone hopes that the people
00:16:53will be reburied on the 13th of November this
00:16:57year yeah but then they have been there for like six
00:17:00years in the heritage
00:17:04house in arana stat in um
00:17:07in station and you know it's not
00:17:11like it doesn't build and prepared for people who
00:17:15who who have died to to preserve them, so
00:17:19people just there in in this um in this
00:17:22building, this is something
00:17:25big,
00:17:26it's not, it's not usual, it's not, it's very unusual, yeah, very
00:17:30unusual, and the thing is, the question
00:17:34is whose ancestors will do?
00:17:38Who are they? and how they can find it, because they
00:17:41can, but how it it will be a place or
00:17:45moment that they will do that research to find the
00:17:49accessories of those people? I
00:17:52think the technology, scientific technology, yeah, of course, it should be
00:17:56possible, but then it's a controversy, because it happened at the moment when
00:18:00stasia wasn't anymore
00:18:03uh uh, how do you say constitutional?
00:18:07state because we had um state
00:18:10secretary
00:18:12um um what's name the soul guy he came and he
00:18:16he placed the the counselors of stasia
00:18:20out the out the building out of
00:18:24um the context of governments so in that
00:18:27period when stasia was like a free for all that's
00:18:31when it happened that's when it happened where they got the
00:18:35permission from the researchers. and why
00:18:39samples were taken from these um um
00:18:42bodies to the Netherlands and also to the United States
00:18:45and those samples still have to be returned, one the
00:18:49reasons that the the reberial took so long had to do with the
00:18:53fact that the Baralgong Alliance
00:18:56was advised that to rebury them first you have to bring
00:19:00back the samples exactly that were
00:19:03taken yeah and up to this day the samples.
00:19:37That's why the fact that he's indicating in the
00:19:41subjects we teach in school, history, does it have to
00:19:45be let's say close to anthropology, when we talking
00:19:49about the geography, what can you do with the ground, but
00:19:52here they took out, excavate
00:19:56people from the barrial grounds, which is
00:19:59something in very very let's say
00:20:02disrespectful because we talking back to for
00:20:06ancestors.
00:20:37Barrel ground, that's next to the airport, when the airport was being
00:20:41built, the the people were digged
00:20:45up around that period, but that thing that
00:20:49that the... the barrel gong which also
00:20:52has Fort Amsterdam and Fort
00:20:55Rotterdam has been sold, it's now it
00:20:59become private property. Another example, very good example
00:21:03is the Congo Baral ground. Congo
00:21:06barag, there was a thing that it said most the people who came
00:21:10to um to Sastacius were from the
00:21:14Congo, whether that is true or not, we are not sure, but
00:21:17there was one man. in station called the Kongo
00:21:21man, he is, his parents were
00:21:25originally from Sirinam, he was businessman, he had shops,
00:21:28still he died, but when he died, the Congo man, he
00:21:32wanted to be buried at the Congo
00:21:36Baral ground, but it was not possible, because it was
00:21:40sold already to a private entity, in the
00:21:44book you will read all about the
00:21:48those instances with...