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00:00:00in this company, of course, he appears as one of
00:00:04the partners or as one of the shareholders, this
00:00:07friend and partner of López Beltrán, Amilcar
00:00:10Holán, of course there is a series of
00:00:13accusations here in Mexico against
00:00:17Andy López Beltrán, one of the most
00:00:20notable leaders in fuel trafficking and also,
00:00:24as you know, Fernando, it is
00:00:28a trafficking network
00:00:30that not only involves the son of the former president,
00:00:34but also involves many other
00:00:37officials of the so-called fourth transformation
00:00:41of the Morena government who have
00:00:43truly constituted a real
00:00:46assault on the country's
00:00:50energy assets and have
00:00:53turned this whole network into a
00:00:56machine that involves transporters
00:00:59that... involves customs, that involves
00:01:02rincón, let's see, I was telling you before many other officials, marines, the
00:01:06Mexican army and who have turned
00:01:09this whole trafficking
00:01:12names of journalists, this was in chain into a true monster
00:01:15that operates throughout the country in this fuel trafficking, so
00:01:19of course, yes, of course huachicol and
00:01:23of course Andy López Beltrán are intimately
00:01:26related. So
00:01:32the data, ready for whatever that could be the second part that Landó refers to,
00:01:35we don't know, it's not speculation, of course it is.
00:01:40of, what Now that Landó says they liked the first one, a second one is coming. What is the second one? They already took away his visa, right?
00:01:44So what does it have to be? Well, it can be the legal sphere
00:01:47definitely. Listen, before I go, I want to ask my
00:01:51dear Beatriz, you hey Beatriz, getting away from Andy, they mentioned you in
00:01:55this list, you weren't mentioned there, right?
00:01:58That's correct Fernando, look, the lists that
00:02:02the legal advisor of the presidency of the republic
00:02:05presented, of journalists, of
00:02:09communicators, of media and of
00:02:11politicians critical of the government, it seems to me that it is
00:02:15one of the worst political errors committed
00:02:19by President Sheinbaum, the tension, the intention
00:02:23evidently was to expose
00:02:26all these people, all these journalists as...
00:02:30as if you were exposing criminals, what the
00:02:34the data, ready for whatever government did is to put journalists
00:02:37and opposition politicians in the crosshairs of
00:02:41fanatics, it is a kind of invitation to kill,
00:02:44you understand, an invitation
00:02:46itself a power that is not within its functions, to liquidate all those who may be
00:02:49uncomfortable for the regime.
00:02:52at some point in his political life he recognized
00:02:56that only fascists, dictators make lists
00:03:00of their enemies, well, this is the case, Fernando,
00:03:04and it seems to me that what is happening in Mexico is very dangerous,
00:03:07because as you point out, it is one of the countries where it is most
00:03:11dangerous to practice
00:03:14Constitutional Chamber? For the journalism, and that's why I tell you Beatriz,
00:03:18I agree with you in everything you tell me, but personally I tell you,
00:03:21take care of yourself please,
00:03:23I'm not going to remember
00:03:27tragic passages of journalistic history
00:03:31in Mexico, but they have indeed been exposed in a
00:03:34crude way, unfortunately, so
00:03:49politician accompanied me, I'm going to take a break, well Beatriz was on
00:03:53this list, what is Fernando talking about, what list, I'll be back, I'll give you all the
00:03:57data in case you don't know it, but there are 54 journalists, 54
00:04:01journalists who were put on a list, exposed in the
00:04:04morning conference by Sheinbaum, it was the legal advisor
00:04:06in Mexico, this lady who is
00:04:09there, Luisa María Alcalde,
00:04:13I'm going to give you all the details, I'll be
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00:04:54journalism for 20 years in Mexico City, in the United
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00:08:24Friday the release of 131 people detained for
00:08:28crimes related to political events. The Penal
00:08:31Forum, an organization that documents political prisoners in the
00:08:35country, reported that it has confirmed about
00:08:3750 releases that occurred today, Friday. Before
00:08:41the official registered 391
00:08:45people or 391 political prisoners,
00:08:48365 men and 26 women out of that total of
00:08:52391, opposition leader María Corina Machado called for the
00:08:55immediate release of all detained civilians and military personnel while
00:08:59the United States described the
00:09:01releases as a crucial step for
00:09:05reconciliation.
00:09:14We are all part of this ocean planet, it depends on all of us to preserve it, it is
00:09:17truly an ecosystem full of life, it is a jewel, the
00:09:21important thing here is water, it is a miracle, we live on a
00:09:25beautiful planet, the ocean is the engine, we
00:09:28have to keep it alive, from
00:09:31any angle of society we can generate
00:09:34change, we all have to support
00:09:37to have healthy
00:09:38ecosystems.
00:10:25passing, what would your advice be to me? you believe the
00:10:28civil government should be guided
00:11:27the break, the legal advisor of the presidency of Mexico, who is
00:11:30Luisa María Alcalde, presented a
00:11:33list with 54
00:11:37the morning conference in a segment called right to reply,
00:11:40she says, I mean, she says because well there was no reply from
00:11:43anyone, but these journalists,
00:11:47organizations or media figures, whom she accused of
00:11:50forming, she said it like this,
00:11:53a network to attack the government of
00:11:57Claudia or as they call it in the fourth
00:12:00transformation according to the version she presented, it is
00:12:04a, she defines it like this, she says I open quotes "digital amplification
00:12:07ecosystem" I close quotes that would have generated
00:12:11more than 22 million publications on the social network
00:12:14X, but look, listen to how
00:12:17Luisa María
00:12:19Alcalde presents it. We would dedicate the program to
00:12:23talk a little more about
00:12:26this digital amplification
00:12:29network that
00:12:33is evidently well coordinated, that has
00:12:37different levels, who participates,
00:12:40how they participate and what phenomenon
00:12:44it ultimately is that occurs in our country
00:12:47from this
00:12:49network,
00:12:52let's see, let's see, let's see, many Alcalde of course
00:12:56rejected that characterization, now she talks about a
00:13:00framework that would be coordinated, not as if
00:13:04they had central offices for a
00:13:07strategy, something that, by the way, is
00:13:11much more common for governments, I'm not saying for Mexico's, but it's common
00:13:15to have their armies of bots, but well, she
00:13:18presents it like this as an ecosystem that is perfectly coordinated,
00:13:22planned, armed to be able to attack Claudia. the
00:13:254T
00:13:28uh, the journalists of course reject it, no, the organizations,
00:13:31the figures and who also say that their
00:13:34inclusion in a list of those characteristics exposes
00:13:38them publicly, puts them at risk in a country where
00:13:41journalists are murdered.
00:13:44We, in fact, in the editorial board of conclusions today, decided not
00:13:48to mention any of the included, I asked Beatriz because she was
00:13:52there with me, Beatriz Pajez, but we decided. we said not to do it because
00:13:56if I put the list, I'm exposing them again,
00:13:59right? So we said we're not going to put names to
00:14:03avoid reproducing the message, no,
00:14:06not becoming part of that 4T ecosystem and
00:14:10reproducing the names, uh, in
00:14:13short, if we are not revictimizing them, in a nutshell,
00:14:16we also know, we know that
00:14:20this network that Luisa María
00:14:23provide proof, that is, she makes her
00:14:26conjectures, beware, it is very different
00:14:30to make conjectures than to prove that a
00:14:32network exists, no, this is something that no one has told her, I am telling
00:14:36her, Luisa María Alcalde, from here, it is one thing for you to have
00:14:40conjectures and another thing for you to present evidence, no, present
00:14:44the evidence of the connections, present the evidence of the
00:14:47communication, of the plans, of the contacts of meetings or whatever,
00:14:51but your conjectures are your conjectures,
00:14:54right? She imagines it like that, I don't know
00:14:57why, maybe she has seen it somewhere else, I mean,
00:15:01I ask, right? Let's see, some of those named have already
00:15:05spoken about this list, they describe it as worrying, they have called the action an
00:15:08attempt at harassment, in addition to stigmatizing the
00:15:12press, and well, in Mexico, exposing my colleagues in this
00:15:16way can have very serious consequences, it is a
00:15:19matter of life or death, literally, I tell you just like that,
00:15:23there are no fanatics. violent ones of the
00:15:264T, as there are of all parties, there have been, through
00:15:30time, I am not saying that it is only
00:15:34Morena, the fourth
00:15:37the... the PRI, it has been seen with the PAN, of course, there is persecution, there is
00:15:40harassment, there are murders against journalists, but to reach
00:15:44this point of making a list is another level, a completely
00:15:47different level, besides with media
00:15:51and televised dissemination,
00:15:55for those who cover politics, this could lead to aversion,
00:15:58confrontations, threats, there are already some, several
00:16:02colleagues of mine throughout the
00:16:05day have said so, they are already threatening us. Something,
00:16:08yes, what will she do there, no, she won't say anything, Luisa
00:16:12María won't say anything,
00:16:15journalists in a broad sense in Mexico face many more things according to Article
00:16:1819, an organization specialized in the defense of freedom of expression, from 2000 to
00:16:22July 2026, 178 murders of journalists in
00:16:25Mexico have been documented in possible
00:16:28relation to their informative work. To a question
00:16:31this Friday, Sheinbaum also defended Alcalde
00:16:35and denied that it was a list. but what was there was a
00:16:38list, but well, this is what
00:16:41she said.
00:16:43Luisa what she says is, a news
00:16:47from an account
00:16:50comes out and from there a whole
00:16:52mechanism
00:16:55against a political position,
00:16:59a project, of the president or
00:17:02she showed how networks
00:17:04work today,
00:17:06it's the list of who knows what, no, no,
00:17:10but already everyone, everyone, everyone, the list
00:17:18was there on screen was a list, president,
00:17:20no, Alcalde says there is no
00:17:24harassment, she denied that there was harassment, the simple fact of
00:17:26exposing them, right? And saying that they are part
00:17:30of a mechanism, a digital ecosystem to affect her,
00:17:33well, that's already harassing them, it's harassment.
00:17:37But well, what difference is there between calling it a list or not
00:17:41calling it a list, ecosystem mechanism, what was there was a list of
00:17:45names or the names of journalists
00:17:48who make them look and present them practically as enemies
00:17:51of the government, that's what
00:18:09Genaro García Luna because this is the highest-level
00:18:13public official from Mexico
00:18:15to be tried and convicted in
00:18:19the United States for drug trafficking, it was
00:18:22incredible to be there, to hear these
00:18:25testimonies and to be able to learn
00:18:28exactly how drug cartels work
00:18:31and how they can operate with the
00:18:35support, many times, of
00:18:37government officials, covering a federal trial in the United
00:18:41States is always a difficult task, you have to arrive at
00:18:44court very early to secure a
00:18:48seat inside the courtroom, but also because cameras are not
00:18:52allowed to record what is happening in the room,
00:18:56so you have to take notes, imagine 8 hours
00:19:00taking notes of everything that is said, everything that happens to be
00:19:03able to report it to you.
00:19:08I am Mexican-British, I have been practicing
00:19:12journalism for 20 years in Mexico City, in the United
00:19:15States and now in Miami for CNN. CNN
00:19:19America is a multiplatform program where you will
00:19:23have information from all areas that will allow you
00:19:26to understand the world from the angle you are looking at it. In
00:19:30those 3 hours you will not only have information from a
00:19:33political and economic perspective, but also
00:19:38from a women's perspective, but above all it is a space where
00:19:41we can have conversations not to polarize, but
00:19:45to integrate society.
00:19:49What excites me most is to inform, investigate,
00:19:52research the why of things, to get to the bottom of the
00:19:55facts, here you will see what makes news and everything that
00:19:59impacts your daily life. CNN América
00:20:02with Rebecca Kelly, Monday to Friday on
00:20:04CNN.
00:21:28Casillas, program officer for the Protection of Civic Space for Article 19,
00:21:32Mexico and Central America. Pedro, welcome, thank you for being
00:21:35here, thank you very much for the invitation and thank you for the space,
00:21:38although unfortunately we have to talk about these
00:21:40issues,
00:21:43yes, gosh, it really reaches some
00:21:46incredible levels, that is, how can you?
00:21:50From any perspective, Pedro, tell me if there is
00:21:53any way to justify what Luisa María Alcalde did,
00:21:56also in the forum in which she does it from power
00:22:00completely with such blatant
00:22:03cynicism, is there any way to justify this, I mean, Luisa María and President
00:22:07Sheinbaum have tried all day, but from your
00:22:10perspective, this is a trend that we have been observing since
00:22:142019, even in our reports with the
00:22:17administration of Andrés Manuel López Obrador because this. generation of lists is not new,
00:22:21first of all, and secondly,
00:22:25it definitely cannot be justified for
00:22:29several reasons, the first is that, according to the
00:22:32standards of the inter-American human rights system and also
00:22:36according to the jurisprudence of both Mexican and
00:22:40international law, there is no reason for the state to be first of all
00:22:43monitoring networks and monitoring public discourse, public opinion, and secondly,
00:22:46even less reason to be classifying what information. is not
00:22:50positive for the state and then even more
00:22:53highlighting that there is a coordination network against it when in reality what is being
00:22:57presented in many of the conclusions given is merely the
00:23:01functioning of the networks, for example one of the conclusions they presented in
00:23:04this right to reply system is that
00:23:07networks have peak points where news
00:23:11comes out and then other accounts replicate it, that is how social networks work, it
00:23:15truly does not provide technical
00:23:18information that proves that a network is being generated, but beyond that,
00:23:22and rather than delving into this discussion, what is more important
00:23:25is why the state is granting itself this power, that
00:23:28is, why the legal advisory of the
00:23:32federal executive is granting
00:23:36not monitoring networks, nor classifying
00:23:40accounts on social networks, nor verifying information, fact
00:23:43checking is not a role of the state, no, so in reality multiple
00:23:47layers of concern about what is being done.
00:23:50and this is concerning in the context of other
00:23:54circumstances that you already highlighted
00:23:57previously, right? For example, Mexico continues to be one of the deadliest countries for practicing
00:24:00journalism, this year six journalists have already been murdered for their
00:24:04work, it is an unprecedented number, let's also remember that last
00:24:08year according to Article 19's documentation, we documented
00:24:11451 aggressions against the press, that is, every 19 hours a
00:24:15journalist is attacked in Mexico, far from contributing to public
00:24:18debate, this type... of declarations and this type of
00:24:22inferences where it is very directly inferred that journalists are
00:24:25linked to a digital amplification network,
00:24:29well, in reality what they do is justify these discourses against
00:24:32the press and justify this animosity or
00:24:36adversity against the press
00:24:40and also, tell me Pedro, can we interpret
00:24:43because they do it very veiledly right? And I don't mean, look, most
00:24:47of those who are there, if not all of them, I know them. and I know they won't be
00:24:51intimidated, yes, but
00:24:54yes, in some of the cases I
00:24:57do believe that it is sought to achieve that, that is, that an
00:25:00intimidation is sought so that critical journalism
00:25:03against the current government decreases,
00:25:06do you think this is a
00:25:09veiled attempt to influence
00:25:13journalistic work in that sense, regardless of whether that is the
00:25:17intention or not, this type of lists
00:25:20definitely generates a process of self-censorship and generates a
00:25:24discussion within the networks about whether we want to participate in these
00:25:28spaces or not, that is, not only journalists, but anyone who
00:25:32participates in social networks will have to ask themselves what is the risk of me
00:25:35publishing so as not to appear in these lists in the public forum of
00:25:39the presidency,
00:25:43of course, he says, you know what, I don't need these problems in my
00:25:46life, I stop doing it,
00:25:50what the network does, I don't think it will be the case in Mexico, I think because
00:25:54on the contrary, they have just opened a Pandora's box that will
00:25:58precisely increase
00:26:00this digital phenomenon. production of opposing messages from
00:26:04critics of the 4T, but
00:29:09under these conditions as president of the Assembly and of the and
00:29:13president of the Supreme Court of Justice in the
00:29:17moment I will not make declarations because there is
00:29:20this resolution. I would rather avoid it. Now
00:29:23you are going to present yourself
00:29:25on Monday to take possession of the position. Yes, in fact,
00:29:29we are going to the court to take. take
00:29:33possession,