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00:00:24now, this
00:00:35contributions, De la
00:00:58Jesus speaks on different occasions.
00:02:02leadership was tried
00:02:14day after
00:02:24that in the first moments of
00:02:32managed to move
00:02:43community responder, most of
00:04:00good evening,
00:04:05you just mentioned a point that has to do with
00:04:15welcome to Conclusiones, I am Iván Pérez Armenti for Fernando del
00:04:18Rincón, today here in Conclusiones, a week after the earthquake
00:04:21en Colombia que dejó casi 290 personas muertas y daños
00:04:25region. What is the balance of the emergency
00:04:28management?
00:04:31yes, evidently, President In addition, US President
00:04:34he trusts his personal relationship with North
00:04:38Korean leader Kim Jong. The decision raises
00:04:40dudas entre los aliados de Washington. Pero
00:04:44también Trump amenaza con atacar a Omán, uno de sus aliados en Medio
00:04:47Oriente, si interfiere en el estrecho de Hormus, luego de que Irán informó
00:04:51que estaban en negociaciones sobre el tránsito comercial en la vía,
00:04:54mientras vence el plazo de negociación establecido en el pacto de Estados Unidos e
00:04:58Irán de junio. sin un acuerdo,
00:05:29A week has passed since the 7.4 magnitude earthquake that shook
00:05:32Colombia and the emergency enters the reconstruction phase that
00:05:36tendrán que encarar tanto el gobierno nacional como las autoridades
00:05:39authorities will have to face. Meanwhile, rescue teams are still working
00:05:42among the rubble, although the possibility of finding survivors
00:05:46diminishes with each hour that passes. The most
00:05:49recent balance speaks of 289 people dead, more than
00:05:534,100 injured, as well as 190 who remain missing.
00:05:57And a week after the earthquake, many
00:06:00are also beginning to grasp the magnitude of the material damage.
00:06:04According to the National Unit for Disaster Risk Management,
00:06:07472 municipalities were affected. More than
00:06:11300 health centers. Around 3,200 educational
00:06:14centers and more than 400 community centers suffered
00:06:18damage, there are also 127,608
00:06:21damaged homes, another
00:06:2326,392
00:06:25completely destroyed and 197 buildings that
00:06:29collapsed, leaving thousands of people in
00:06:32shelters. An example of this are the affected victims in
00:06:35Manizales, entire families who were left with nothing more than the
00:06:39strength to move forward. Let's see the report from our.
00:06:45Have you ever wondered what it's
00:06:48like to lose the security of a roof, the warmth
00:06:52of your own room, to have
00:06:55everyone around you, your family, your friends, and suddenly
00:06:58lose everything? Well, these people are
00:07:02living that, precisely after the earthquake registered in
00:07:05Colombia last Monday, very
00:07:08difficult, really difficult because we always think that we will never
00:07:12lose things, right? And that is something that
00:07:16awaits us, that was something sudden and that awaits us, but from there
00:07:19we learn a lot that life is only a second,
00:07:23only here in the city of Manizales there are nearly
00:07:265,000 people affected and in this
00:07:29coliseum there are at least 47 families who are
00:07:32being attended to in their basic needs, here
00:07:36families arrive with their dogs, their cats, their companion
00:07:39animals, some people come alone, there are children,
00:07:43there are elderly people, and what we provide here, besides
00:07:46offering a place to stay overnight, is
00:07:49food, health, here we have a doctor
00:07:51permanently, where we are making a tour trying to
00:07:55improve the well-being of people, in this type of emergency, not
00:07:59only supplies, food, personal hygiene products, medicines
00:08:02are needed, but perhaps something more
00:08:05profound, affection, and this is a
00:08:09mobile clinic to attend to the people who have been
00:08:12victims of this earthquake, Carlos, you are
00:08:15here, because people need more than food and shelter,
00:08:19affection, it's true,
00:08:22it's true, Fernando, what we want is that these primary
00:08:26needs are very important, shelter, food, water, but
00:08:29where is the affective nutrition, there are people who are
00:08:33devastated, without a home, without anything, and no matter how much they
00:08:37want to eat, sometimes they manage to eat and they don't want to, they want a
00:08:39hug, music heals.
00:08:42beloved, and this group knows it and that's why they have come
00:08:46voluntarily to this shelter to give a moment of
00:08:50joy to these families,
00:08:53we have
00:08:58to give a little because during the pandemic we were artists who went
00:09:02out into the street and many of these people here who are victims
00:09:05supported us, that is to say we are giving back this without
00:09:08any cost, we have to cheer up people's souls, music lightens the load.
00:09:17for at least one or two months these people will be in
00:09:21shelters, in Manizales, in Pereira, in Cali,
00:09:24Buenaventura and Quibdó in El Chocó, the regions most affected
00:09:28by the earthquake, then they will have to go out and rebuild their
00:09:32lives, will they succeed? Only
00:09:35time will tell. For CNN, Fernando Ramos,
00:09:38Manizales, Colombia.
00:09:42It also opened a debate on international aid. The United States and several
00:09:46Latin American countries such as Ecuador, El Salvador, Mexico and Peru,
00:09:50offered specialized teams and humanitarian assistance, while the
00:09:53Colombian government evaluated what type of support it could receive and how
00:09:57to coordinate it. According to Vice President José Manuel Restrepo,
00:10:001.3 billion dollars in various types of cooperation
00:10:04have been received. The challenge has changed, now for the
00:10:07government it is also to rebuild the country.
00:10:10Experts point out that the cost for the Colombian economy could exceed
00:10:141% of the gross domestic product, and that task puts at
00:10:17risk one of the great promises with which President Bedardo de las
00:10:21Priella took office, to reduce the deficit and clean up public accounts. The
00:10:24mandate. for now highlights the creation of a fund to address the
00:10:27emergency.
00:10:30Therefore, I inform the country that I have
00:10:33decided to make use of the
00:10:37economic emergency, a mechanism contemplated in our
00:10:40constitution to be able to face this
00:10:43crisis as appropriate.
00:10:47The emergency that I propose will
00:10:50create a miracle fund, an
00:10:53entity that will channel
00:10:55national and international
00:11:00Espriella also asked US President Donald Trump to temporarily
00:11:04temporalmente los aranceles a los productos colombianos para aliviar la
00:11:07country's economy and help Colombian entrepreneurs, and his
00:11:11team of ministers has had to assume the response to the tragedy along
00:11:14with officials from the previous
00:11:18servants who will be in charge of dealing with the
00:11:21catastrophe take office, the two meetings between Gustavo Petro and Abelardo de la
00:11:25Espriella also reached the disaster response agency. Javier
00:11:28Paba was in charge of the institution when the earthquake occurred. Days later
00:11:32the new director David Tamayo Roldán took office. The change occurred
00:11:36while authorities were still trying to organize rescues, distribute
00:11:40aid and establish a reliable balance of the
00:11:43damages. And after a week, how can
00:11:47we qualify the response balance to this emergency?
00:11:49How have the resources been used? We are going to talk about all this.
00:11:53my first guest,
00:11:55I now welcome Eduardo Vélez
00:12:00Soto, expert in disaster risk management and civil protection,
00:12:04thank you for being with us,
00:12:07Eduardo, I begin by asking you the question that
00:12:11we asked ourselves at the beginning, how can we qualify the response
00:12:14balance to this emergency after one
00:12:16week? Thank you, first of all, good
00:12:20evening, a fraternal greeting of
00:12:23solidarity with the victims of this
00:12:26earthquake, the balance can be
00:12:29qualified as positive, the government mobilized
00:12:33in a very proactive way, despite it being its first business
00:12:39the inauguration, it mobilized in an active way towards the
00:12:42regions, it managed
00:12:45resources, it also
00:12:48decreed the national emergency, the national
00:12:51disaster, which allows to open some systems
00:12:55for rapid acquisition of aid and
00:12:58also managed with multilateral financing with the World
00:13:02Bank and with humanitarian assistance, they
00:13:06mobilized at the beginning of the first days, the first two days of the
00:13:09emergency there was some problem with issues of
00:13:13requesting aid from rescue
00:13:16what was stalled once the
00:13:19new director of the national disaster risk management unit
00:13:23was appointed and international aid began to flow, as
00:13:26well as response groups, the United
00:13:29States, Israel, arrived with
00:13:33highly qualified
00:13:35personnel, Ecuador and El
00:13:38Salvador, brigades and Usar, the United Nations, USA, Ocha,
00:13:41Indarat, activated their Undat teams and everyone
00:13:45rushed to save lives, the first institution of the President of the
00:13:49Republic was to save lives and during this week, all
00:13:52week. work was done on the search and rescue
00:13:56of precisely those people and simultaneously in
00:13:59receiving that international aid to provide
00:14:03humanitarian assistance to all the people who are
00:14:06affected in these municipalities that
00:14:09are quite numerous, so the balance is a
00:14:13positive balance in terms of the new
00:14:16government's response and a unfortunately negative
00:14:20balance for the victims and the missing who
00:14:24are not found at this
00:14:26moment,
00:14:30the change of authorities, how much did this
00:14:34make it difficult or delay this response, this lack
00:14:37of handover between the outgoing government and the incoming government, this
00:14:41of De la Espriella having
00:14:44sworn in with officials who were appointed by Petro and who have
00:14:48changed in the midst of the
00:14:51response to what these earthquakes have been,
00:14:56De la Espriella showed immediate leadership, as soon as
00:15:00the earthquake occurred, he went to the national unit for
00:15:03risk management and convened the national committee
00:15:07to be able to take immediate measures, despite the fact that the
00:15:10officials were not appointed, neither the director of the national
00:15:14unit nor the subdirectors of each of
00:15:18the processes of the national unit, the president in the first instance took that
00:15:22leadership, a political leadership and
00:15:25went to the territories to
00:15:27organize the first day in a very quick
00:15:31way so that search and rescue operations could begin,
00:15:34evidently, a political leadership does not replace
00:15:37a technical leadership, as the emergency progressed,
00:15:41the technicians of the new government were incorporated
00:15:44and the emergency began to
00:15:48work in a more coordinated way, in a more
00:15:51unified way, but I
00:15:54make special recognition to that leadership of the first
00:15:58moment of President
00:16:01leadership of the new president, which politically one
00:16:04values, and for the population also, let's say that the first
00:16:08president takes the lead in
00:16:11leading all this, obviously brings
00:16:15tranquility to the population, now from the point of view of management, is it correct or
00:16:19should there be a person already appointed who knew what they had to do and
00:16:23who already had provisions and who knew from the first moment what had to be done,
00:16:26I mean, is the president the one who has to occupy that place beyond looking
00:16:30good for the photo and for the population, if we
00:16:33talk about it in terms of my
00:16:37case, of course, the president does not play an operational
00:16:40role, the risk management policy in
00:16:44Colombia is aligned with law
00:16:471523 of 2012, there is a structure, there is a
00:16:50national risk management system where there are
00:16:54steps, coordinators, national
00:16:56coordinators, territorial coordinators
00:17:00in departments and municipalities, there was
00:17:03the mismatch and that is why it
00:17:06should be depoliticized disaster
00:17:09risk management, technicians should be appointed
00:17:12and not politicians within the
00:17:15lines of disaster management within the system,
00:17:19there are many technical people who can occupy positions regardless
00:17:23of political party regardless of which
00:17:26side they are on, but to give
00:17:29continuity to this issue, especially because we are talking about
00:17:33saving lives, so in a first instance, at first
00:17:36that operational
00:17:40to be occupied by the president of the republic with that technical leadership, there was no other
00:17:44way to do it at that time, that's why that contribution
00:17:47is valuable, there was no other way, he took the reins of everything and organized while
00:17:51the technical part could be
00:17:54appointed and the technical part could start functioning,
00:17:58notice that if the president did not do
00:18:01the emergency, it would have been
00:18:04absolute losses, he personally led. and
00:18:09the situation forward, at least operatively at first,
00:18:13to give it a first push. The other thing that we
00:18:17were able to highlight is the phenomenon of the
00:18:21the first stations were executed by neighbors, by merchants.
00:18:25Although this response is vital and spontaneous, it
00:18:28exposed these volunteers to risks of crushing by aftershocks,
00:18:32electric shocks, gas explosions because we do not have a trained
00:18:35community. It is important that we take these two issues into account,
00:18:39first a technical part of the people who
00:18:42are in charge of disaster risk management in Colombia and
00:18:46second a community organization, these are two lessons learned that
00:18:50this disaster leaves us
00:18:52in the first instance. Eduardo, let's stop here, let's take a break
00:18:56and when we come back we will continue talking and delving into this
00:18:59issue, into prevention, into the budgets that exist and into
00:19:03how much it is
00:19:07break and then I continue talking with
00:19:10Eduardo Belezoto, expert in disaster risk management and civil
00:19:14protection about what has happened in Colombia and about how it can be prevented for
00:19:18the future, we'll be
00:19:18right back.
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00:22:42earthquake in Colombia, we are in dialogue with Eduardo Belezoto,
00:22:45expert in disaster risk management and civil
00:22:47protection. He was describing the
00:22:51work of the neighbors who were the first to arrive at the disaster areas and who have
00:22:55begun with their own hands to try to remove
00:22:58rubble, to rescue people with the risk that this
00:23:01also entails, with the risk of perhaps with good intentions
00:23:05complicating the situation further. I want to go
00:23:09into how much prevention management there
00:23:12is for these types of situations that are known to happen, not
00:23:16when, if ever, but it is known that Colombia is a
00:23:19seismic zone, the same as has happened with Venezuela or that can happen with other
00:23:23countries in the region. How much is
00:23:26invested in prevention and in training so that the population
00:23:29knows what to do in a situation like this, at least the
00:23:33basics to do and not complicate the situation further.
00:23:37Well, I want to tell you that over the years we have or live a
00:23:40very complicated situation regarding
00:23:43that issue, risk management has three processes, but
00:23:47it seems that only one is funded. From
00:23:502019, only 2.5% of
00:23:54the budget is invested in reduction and
00:23:5794.74%
00:23:59in disaster.
00:24:02What does that mean? That the country spends when there are already
00:24:05dead. So, this should not be
00:24:09the right thing to do, it should be, we should be investing, we should
00:24:12invest more in knowledge and more in
00:24:15reduction, because if we invest more in knowledge and more in
00:24:18reduction we save a lot of money when
00:24:22there is a response, the United Nations have an updated figure that for
00:24:26every dollar invested in reduction, $19 are saved
00:24:29at this moment in prevention and it is
00:24:33precisely here where
00:24:37risk management in Colombia, we have not gone from being
00:24:40reactive to doing the
00:24:43correct disaster risk management,
00:24:46this disaster did not occur 8
00:24:49days ago, Monday, this disaster has been forming
00:24:53for more than 20 or more than
00:24:5625 years after the earthquake, the Armenia
00:25:00earthquake, because the bases of prevention
00:25:03are in territorial planning and in safe
00:25:07construction, however, if we are going to see the
00:25:10buildings that collapsed are buildings from
00:25:14before the seismic resistance norm, meaning that no
00:25:17prevention was ever very
00:25:21specific, especially these buildings that were without structural reinforcement,
00:25:25likewise there are a series
00:25:28of controls that building departments must
00:25:32make on the homes that
00:25:36are built, I saw reports
00:25:39in Pereira that the types of iron, types of steel were not the
00:25:42indicated ones, they were not the certified ones in the columns that precisely
00:25:46were exposed, all these
00:25:49issues. are called prevention, are called
00:25:52reduction, there is a preventive part and a corrective part, but
00:25:56evidently that is where we have to
00:25:59focus, we have built through our
00:26:02development, disasters, risks
00:26:05are a social construction, when that
00:26:08risk is materialized by a disaster, because
00:26:12the threatening phenomenon appears, as was the
00:26:16case on Monday when the earthquake appeared,
00:26:19which triggered that vulnerability, that accumulated
00:26:22risk, then these losses
00:26:25occur, we cannot let these losses
00:26:28continue and we have a golden opportunity which is
00:26:31the opportunity for reconstruction: reconstruction is not just
00:26:35bricks, it is not cement, it is not buildings, reconstruction is
00:26:39rebuilding both the physical part and also
00:26:43the social fabric and within the social fabric that culture of
00:26:46prevention, that prevention regulations,
00:26:49adjusting those prevention regulations so that they can reach the
00:26:53territory, says the Sendai framework for disaster
00:26:56risk management that it must be rebuilt better and if we do not rebuild
00:27:00better we are strengthening the disaster
00:27:03very soon,
00:27:05specifically, what does this imply, I mean for the population, what should
00:27:09the population know, get trained, what should
00:27:12governments do, one thinks in principle of anti-seismic construction
00:27:16and training, but I guess there are more
00:27:19aspects than these two that I am simply mentioning,
00:27:23that is, where should the focus be
00:27:25urgently, the focus should be on land use, the focus
00:27:29should be on territorial planning, not all soils
00:27:32are the same, a seismic wave does not activate
00:27:36the same in all soils, but there must be a territorial
00:27:40planning plan that is already in order in Colombia so
00:27:43that municipalities have a plan for their territory and know
00:27:47where to build and where not to build, in the vast majority
00:27:50of cases it happens that they have built where they should not have
00:27:53built, but there is also no authority that follows up on
00:27:57that, that prevents these types of issues, here what needs
00:28:01to be definitively improved is the culture of prevention, if
00:28:05we achieve a strong culture in prevention, if we achieve a strong culture in
00:28:08disaster risk management, very surely all these
00:28:11issues will be aligned and there will be far
00:28:15fewer victims when a natural phenomenon occurs,
00:28:19now I have seen through the media and authorities that they say a
00:28:23natural disaster, a natural disaster is blameless, no one was to
00:28:26blame, but yes, here there is a social blame, here there is a
00:28:30governmental blame, here there is a blame of governance, a blame of
00:28:34society too because it is a
00:28:36co-responsibility between the risk management process which is
00:28:40public, private and
00:28:42community.
00:28:46Eduardo, thank you for being with us, that was Eduardo Belez Soto, expert in
00:28:49disaster risk management and protection. civil, we are left with this last point,
00:28:53there is a shared responsibility of all, we must take advantage of this opportunity
00:28:57after this disaster, that this serves to rebuild and that the next time
00:29:00it happens there are many fewer victims and much less destruction than there really
00:29:04was, thank you for being with us here tonight, we are going to take a
00:29:08break,
00:29:11please, thank you very much, we are taking a break, but upon returning we will talk about the president of the United
00:29:14States Donald Trump, who suspends military exercises in South Korea out of
00:29:18respect for the leader of North Korea, Kimon Hung, a brief break and we will return
00:29:22with this
00:29:22topic,
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