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00:08:43how are you? Good evening, it's a pleasure to greet you.
00:09:05I'm Fernando del Rincón, welcome, welcome to Conclusiones, thank you for
00:09:15visit of the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio to three Latin American
00:09:19countries. He is in Colombia,
00:09:22and will also be in Peru and Ecuador, of
00:09:26course. In all three countries, there is a common
00:09:29theme, you see, that obviously has to do with US collaboration,
00:09:33and this is a security issue. In Colombia, well, it's
00:09:37evident, besides it being the flag
00:09:40that Abelardo del Espriella
00:09:43has waved during his campaign and now as acting president,
00:09:47the issue of the fight against armed groups
00:09:49and also the
00:09:53normalization of relations, which is very important, but above all, the security
00:09:56issue is indeed highly relevant. This
00:10:00tour by Marco Rubio also aims to
00:10:04strengthen what is known as the "Shield of the Americas," where several
00:10:08countries have joined, of course
00:10:12of Abelardo del Espriella, has an enormous
00:10:14rapprochement with the United States
00:10:17and a clear
00:10:20alignment with Washington's agenda. But the same
00:10:23happens in Peru and Ecuador. In Ecuador, there is also an issue, as you
00:10:27know, an important collaboration that has been strongly
00:10:30questioned, but also in the field of security with President
00:10:34Daniel Noboa in the fight against in
00:10:37both cases also against drug trafficking. Yes,
00:10:41in Colombia, they are seeking collaboration; they
00:10:44are collaborating with the United States in the fight
00:10:48against armed groups, but also against drug trafficking. Now, in
00:10:52Ecuador, it's basically against
00:10:55drug trafficking groups as well. Now that he will be in
00:10:59Peru with Keiko Fujimori, who has been president for
00:11:0340-something days, 42 days I think,
00:11:06the issue of security was also the
00:11:08important issue, and she will also seek collaboration. Now, what is
00:11:12behind all this? Well, there are many
00:11:16doubts about how far the collaboration will go, and that's
00:11:21people are asking. For example, today we will be talking about what Keiko
00:11:24Fujimori is doing in terms of security that already worries
00:11:27some, but it is starting to attract attention. She is asking for
00:11:30extraordinary powers, for example, for
00:11:3466 extraordinary powers for 120
00:11:37days, but not only for security issues. The main
00:11:40issues are security, but from there, it gets into
00:11:44economy, education, health,
00:11:47etcetera. Obviously, from the legislative branch, they say, "Wait,
00:11:50wait, 66 special powers, wait. We have
00:11:53to review this well, right? Because there are many, the
00:11:57accumulation of power is dangerous too." And on the other hand,
00:12:01she is with the state of emergency in
00:12:04high-security prisons. There are five or six high-
00:12:07security prisons that are under a state of emergency.
00:12:11Obviously, what does she do? She is practically
00:12:14militarizing these prisons. Hence,
00:12:17the issue of security will also be fundamental in the visit with Marco
00:12:21Rubio, and in Ecuador. Well, let's continue with this because in Ecuador, they really
00:12:25started and continued with the collaboration. So we will be
00:12:28following up on that. Today, we go with Colombia because
00:12:32Marco Rubio was in Colombia today. We anticipate a bit of this
00:12:35situation in Peru to explain everything that is happening regarding
00:12:39security with Keiko Fujimori primarily
00:12:42and with the special powers she is requesting because
00:12:46she will be there tomorrow, and with that, what I have been
00:12:49telling you will be reaffirmed, this greater rapprochement,
00:12:53mainly with security interests in the three countries, the fight
00:12:56against drug trafficking, and I believe,
00:12:59I believe that in the particular case of
00:13:03Peru, there will be an important economic agenda due to China's
00:13:06presence and the agreements China has with Peru.
00:13:09This is something you know is on Washington's agenda; they want to remove
00:13:13China as far as possible from Latin American
00:13:16territory, so I think there will also be interesting
00:13:20topics there, but we won't
00:14:06with President Abelardo del Espriella and are followed by the attendees at the
00:14:10event, the signing of the Barranquilla agreements is celebrated.
00:14:13This is how the Colombian president referred to the agreements signed
00:14:16between the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and his counterpart
00:14:20Omar Bula during the visit of
00:14:24this top US diplomat to Colombia. A high-ranking
00:14:27official, Secretary of State, no more and no less. Del
00:14:31Espriella described them as a roadmap that seeks to rebuild the country
00:14:34after the August 10 earthquake, which is the other point also in Colombia.
00:14:38Unfortunately, this earthquake that
00:14:42hit Colombia is part of an extremely
00:14:45important reconstruction that needs to be done. Not only that,
00:14:49but he also added the joint tasks in the recovery of the
00:14:52economy.
00:14:55The shielding, he says, of the hemisphere. And after Tuesday's
00:14:59meeting, Rubio appeared before the media with a very ambitious message. From Barranquilla, he said
00:15:03that the United States and Colombia can enter a golden
00:15:06age, marked by a cooperation that, in his
00:15:09opinion, is unprecedented.
00:15:17not only to restore that, but also to create and create a
00:15:21golden age of... relationship between our two countries and our people, and of course the president, the
00:15:32host of the house, President de la Espriella, showered
00:15:36praise on the Cuban-born Secretary of State. Let's
00:15:45freedom, democracy, and institutionalism, because there isn't a Latino in the
00:15:49world who doesn't feel represented
00:15:52by Marco Rubio, who has always done it in the best possible
00:15:55way in front of our community.
00:15:59The message of
00:15:59cooperation also
00:16:04reached the economy. Colombia seeks that
00:16:06the United States review the 12.5% tariffs applied to some
00:16:10of the products. However, although the issue was not addressed
00:16:14during the appearance, and without going into detail, Rubio assured
00:16:18that the economic opportunities between both countries are
00:16:21incredible. The economic opportunities, the current
00:16:24situation is not. The officials also signed two memoranda of
00:16:28understanding. The topics are revealing. Look, this really
00:16:31caught my attention, I think few of us expected it, it's about
00:16:35this, this especially,
00:16:37civil nuclear energy.
00:16:41That's something that wasn't heard, wasn't talked
00:16:45about, but it was part of the
00:16:48memoranda of understanding, civil nuclear
00:16:52energy, and this also, critical minerals
00:16:55and rare earths. The United States has
00:16:58been very attentive to this issue of rare earths, not only
00:17:02in Latin America, do you remember there in Ukraine?
00:17:05That was part of
00:17:08an agreement to continue supporting President Volodymyr Zelensky
00:17:12on the issue of exploiting rare earths, right? So
00:17:16now in Colombia too,
00:17:18Venezuela is not far behind either. In another program, I'll be talking
00:17:22about rare earths and minerals, but the United States is very attentive to that,
00:17:26and well, in this agenda, for the first time in Latin America,
00:17:30civil nuclear energy and critical
00:17:33minerals are now part of the memoranda of understanding.
00:17:37and rare earths. There's history behind
00:17:41them, right? What am I referring to? First,
00:17:45China, that the United States seeks to reduce its dependence on
00:17:49China, precisely in critical minerals and rare
00:17:53earths, which are indispensable for manufacturing, as you
00:17:57know, today's electronic components, batteries,
00:18:00defense systems. And Colombia, Colombia appears
00:18:04with a potential that now
00:18:08takes on new value. There is a
00:18:12recent report of a discovery of Tungsten in the
00:18:16Caldas region. Tungsten is a high-strength metal
00:18:19used in industrial, aerospace, and defense sectors.
00:18:23National security also occupies
00:18:26a central place in this new stage. Washington wants to reinforce its support
00:18:30for Colombia in the fight against armed groups and drug trafficking
00:18:33organizations, which is what I told you at the beginning. Marco Rubio
00:18:36emphasizes that the problem transcends borders. This is something
00:18:40we all understand very well, but the major governmental
00:18:42decisions will not be limited to Rubio's visit.
00:18:45This Tuesday, which drew a lot
00:18:49of attention, Espriella signed a decree lifting the
00:18:52general suspension of permits for carrying
00:18:54firearms. That is,
00:18:57to say, it doesn't mean that everyone
00:19:01will be armed, that all civilians will be able to arm themselves,
00:19:05but before, you didn't even have a chance.
00:19:07Now, by complying with the requirements that they have to meet, you will be able to
00:19:11carry a weapon in
00:19:18that right to carry a weapon is Decree
00:19:211368, which President Abelardo
00:19:24del Espriella has repealed. It was the general suspension of
00:19:28gun carrying permits, in force since 2018.
00:19:31It establishes that those who already have a valid
00:19:35and current permit, without suspension, cancellation, revocation,
00:19:38expiration, or legal or judicial prohibition, may carry
00:19:42weapons. But the decree clarifies that this does not
00:19:45mean free carrying of weapons, but that the
00:19:48requirements, restrictions, and controls of the military
00:19:51and police authorities are maintained. In other words,
00:19:54they give you a chance to carry weapons as long
00:19:58they ask for.
00:20:18very clear point. Yes, it's
00:20:21very common when it comes to the issue of weapons; they do it a lot here in the United States.
00:20:25He said, how is it possible that the criminal
00:20:29who is going to mug you on the street is armed and the good
00:20:33citizen is not able to
00:20:35defend themselves? And if you look
00:20:37at it simplistically,
00:20:40you're absolutely right.
00:20:43But it's much
00:20:46more complex. I think the question here is why
00:20:50hasn't it been possible to
00:20:53prevent weapons from circulating freely among
00:20:56criminals?
00:20:59The state has not been able to control that flow of
00:21:01illegal weapons. The solution is not to arm more
00:21:05people or for more people to arm themselves; the solution is to get weapons off the streets, from another
00:21:09point of view. There will be someone who says, "No, it's
00:21:12not like that, everyone should arm themselves."
00:21:15But those are two completely different points of view, right? That's how Abelardo
00:21:19del Espriella supports it. But there's the other side of the coin that says,
00:21:22"No, what we have to do is reduce the number of weapons. We have to stop
00:21:26the illegal flow of weapons. We have to get them off the streets."
00:21:30In short, security issues, a vision to
00:21:33strengthen national security hand in hand with the United States.
00:21:37Now, on the issue of national security, how far will the agreements
00:21:41go? How far? Abelardo
00:21:44del Espriella is characterizing himself
00:21:48by going further, by going further in this promise he makes
00:21:52to Colombians to eliminate irregular
00:21:54groups, to bring them down, bring them to
00:21:58justice, etcetera.
00:22:01Today, it was not really detailed
00:22:04what type of agreements, what type of operations,
00:22:08what type of collaboration. Surely, we will know in the future,
00:22:12I hope. But how far can or
00:22:15should the agreements go? There has to be some change with the collaboration that already
00:22:19existed. And I'm going to say it this way, right? Mostly before
00:22:23Petro, there has to be an
00:22:26currently exists in terms of US support for the Colombian
00:22:30government.
00:23:06closed-door meeting that happened, agreements that without a doubt
00:23:10we knew would be focused on security issues.
00:23:13What, what is it that today, we didn't
00:23:17hear? Perhaps what we expected to hear. As a journalist,
00:23:20I tell you, I didn't hear a detailed plan
00:23:24of how this new collaboration will be. Marta Lucía Ramírez, do you have
00:23:28any idea? Well, Fernando, the first thing is that I
00:23:31think it's great that this was an
00:23:35absolutely proactive visit from the United States,
00:23:38but also from Colombia. Topics that are absolutely
00:23:42strategic have been placed on the agenda. The fact that the most important person
00:23:45in world geopolitics has come to Colombia today and will go to
00:23:49Ecuador and Peru shows that he attaches
00:23:52absolutely fundamental importance to the
00:23:56region. This shows that President Trump, who is obviously the
00:23:59leader of this policy, is really
00:24:03thinking long-term, and the long term means not
00:24:05limiting oneself to the contentious issues
00:24:09between the United States and the Andean countries, which are always those
00:24:12of drug trafficking, security, smuggling, etc.,
00:24:16but also addressing long-term and strategic
00:24:20issues. These two memoranda of understanding are fundamental
00:24:23and do have very concrete elements, because to
00:24:27talk about energy security today
00:24:31means also talking about the need to
00:24:34investigate what role Colombia can play in
00:24:40because our country has never talked
00:24:43about that topic, but we know that nuclear energy is the cheapest
00:24:46source of energy. The thing is that all the countries that have been part
00:24:50of the non-proliferation treaty
00:24:53in nuclear matters, then, in some way, have refrained from even
00:24:57investigating, but this is a field where one has to investigate,
00:25:01and Colombia is undoubtedly one of the countries with the greatest
00:25:05potential in all energy sources: oil,
00:25:08coal, gas, obviously hydraulic
00:25:12energy, bioenergy, which is what obviously
00:25:15also involves the development of ethanol, palm
00:25:18oil, etc. And today we are
00:25:20also talking about nuclear energy, so it's all energy
00:25:23sources in a country like Colombia with enormous
00:25:27potential. But Ecuador also has it, Peru also
00:25:30has it. I am sure that after this visit, there will undoubtedly
00:25:34be a much more detailed development of agreements
00:25:38on these issues so that, hopefully, our hemisphere,
00:25:42not only Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and the United States, but the hemisphere
00:25:45becomes a true power for what remains of
00:25:48this 21st century, because this group of countries with all the
00:25:52energy sources, with all the agents we have for food
00:25:56production, with all the potential we have in those
00:26:00lands and rare minerals that you rightly mentioned, the
00:26:04potential that Latin America has is enormous. The main
00:26:07proven sources are in Argentina,
00:26:11Chile, Bolivia, but for example, Colombia has done almost no
00:26:14exploration. Why? First of all, because
00:26:17of this always very reactive attitude that has existed towards
00:26:21mining, which is a mistake. Mining is good if it is done in a
00:26:24sustainable way, if it is done responsibly
00:26:28with communities, if informal
00:26:32exploitation that harms miners stuck in the
00:26:36mines is avoided, but also that causes great
00:26:39damage to the environment. But then the
00:26:42potential that our country and the region have
00:26:46is immense in all these aspects.
00:26:49país y la región es inmenso en todos estos
00:26:52topics, but I think we've gone from a reactive agenda from the United
00:26:56States, drawing attention to a proactive,
00:27:00purposeful, strategic and... long-term
00:27:14picture, as they say here, no, in the bigger
00:27:16scenario, I see a United States with a
00:27:20very aggressive
00:27:22exploitation agenda in Latin America, you just have to look at
00:27:26the case of the agreement that
00:27:29was made with the Delcy Rodríguez regime for oil
00:27:32exploitation in Venezuela, how
00:27:35it now turns to Colombia to talk
00:27:39about nuclear energy for civil use, but
00:27:42also about rare earths, no, particularly the case of
00:27:46Tungsten, surely it will do the same in Peru, because
00:27:49it is another of the cases, uh, and the big question I ask myself
00:27:53is why does the United States have to go wherever
00:27:56to Venezuela, to Colombia, to Peru, in
00:28:00this specific case, I focus on Colombia the United States has to go to
00:28:03Colombia for all this to be developed? Why? Why
00:28:07can Colombia per se, by itself, Colombia not
00:28:10generate that great opportunity?
00:28:13Because you know as well as I do. The United States is not going to just come and do them a favor
00:28:17just because, there is an exchange here and there will have to be a gain for
00:28:21the United States, especially under a government like Donald Trump's. What
00:28:24what's happening? Why can Colombia not get ahead by itself if
00:28:28the United States is not there? That's the
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00:30:09The fight this time is that the
00:30:13administration wants a sharp cut in interest
00:30:16rates to boost
00:30:20the economy, but the Fed, which has price stability as one of its two
00:30:23mandates, defending us from inflation, believes that if it does
00:30:27that, if it makes a sharp
00:30:30cut, it would stop
00:30:33inflation, and a scenario with growth problems
00:30:36and at the same time inflation, that is, what is called
00:30:39stagflation,
00:30:42that is precisely what the Fed
00:30:44of Powell, of Jerome Powell, wants to avoid.