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00:01:58Donald Trump said, imagine that I am on
00:02:11United States Senate, both of
00:03:11if we win, no, do you know
00:03:19paycheck, do you know
00:03:29because we say that usually and 38 of
00:03:40but if he puts himself on
00:04:26as words, that's why I'm telling you, what
00:04:40populism, but in
00:05:32How are you, good evening, it's a pleasure to greet you, I'm Fernando del Rincón,
00:05:35welcome, welcome to Conclusiones, thank you for joining me,
00:05:38this, this as every night, of course, thank you for being here.
00:05:42Today we are going to continue with
00:05:45this Republican convention, strange Republican convention, why do I say
00:05:49strange Republican convention, you saw that yesterday we were with
00:05:53only part of the speech, moments of the speech of President
00:05:57Donald Trump, I say strange or
00:06:00rare as you want to call it, Republican convention,
00:06:03because this is not customary, there is no
00:06:06convention for mid-term
00:06:09elections, now he is doing it.
00:06:12Evidently he is doing it, Donald
00:06:15Trump, because of the situation they are in, the numbers
00:06:19that well, I'm not saying they
00:06:22predict a Democratic victory, but
00:06:24at least in the House of Representatives, the Democrats
00:06:28have a great opportunity to take it, not in the Senate, it's more complicated,
00:06:32but they could do it, it's
00:06:36obvious, it's a measure,
00:06:40some will say it's a measure to
00:06:43reinforce the vote in favor of Republicans in
00:06:47these mid-term elections on November 3rd,
00:06:50now how much does it favor
00:06:54Republicans the participation of President Donald
00:06:58Trump when his approval is around 36
00:07:0235%, does it really
00:07:05favor him to imagine as he said yesterday, yesterday President
00:07:10the ballot and well yes.
00:07:12Logically it is that, at the end of the day the
00:07:16vote and the mid-term
00:07:19election is like
00:07:22a referendum for President Donald Trump, because they are going
00:07:26to punish him in the vote, they are going to punish the Republicans for Trump's
00:07:30management, or they are going to reward them, or they are going to open the door to the
00:07:33Democrats, so at the end of the day yes, Trump
00:07:36said yesterday, imagine, don't imagine, he is on the ballot, that
00:07:40is, all the actions of the... where President Donald Trump, all his
00:07:44policies are impacting precisely the ballot that will
00:07:47favor Republicans,
00:07:51of course within so much propaganda
00:07:54that President Donald Trump said yesterday, there are headlines, one of
00:07:58them was in Mexico, precisely in
00:08:01statements also this that Marco Rubio
00:08:04made, but here in the United States, what
00:08:08Donald Trump said yesterday that has caused a stir
00:08:11and that is not for less. Some have minimized it,
00:08:15but let's see, I understand it from another perspective, we should not
00:08:18minimize it, President Donald Trump yesterday offered if
00:08:22the Republicans won
00:08:25$5,
00:08:27for American adults, that is, he was going to give
00:08:30$5,
00:08:33to the people, $5, if the Republicans
00:08:37won the mid-term elections,
00:08:39I don't know how you
00:08:42interpret it, but the interpretation I give it within
00:08:46an electoral law in
00:08:49other countries, speaking of Latin America,
00:08:53one could well say that votes are being bought, no, it's a vote
00:08:57buying, first of all, where was he going to get the
00:09:00money, it's a lot of money, now I'll tell you the figure, etc., it's
00:09:04a lot of money, yes, where is
00:09:07that money going to come from, and if he has it, I asked
00:09:11President Donald Trump today, "Hey,
00:09:15this, the Congress has to approve this," and
00:09:18Trump said, "Well, no, I don't think Congress has to
00:09:21approve it, we think not," and you know,
00:09:24then came this whole string of achievements and successes, because we have earned
00:09:28too much money, because trillions of billions of
00:09:32dollars have come in, with tariffs,
00:09:35with foreign investment in the country, so we are doing so
00:09:39well that I don't think it is necessary for Congress to
00:09:43approve it, but the reality is that a populist act, empty
00:09:46words, or seriously speaking, the issue of offering
00:09:50$5,000 for the Republicans to win, well
00:09:53it's this, it should be
00:09:56illegal, it should be illegal, he is
00:10:00buying votes, he is offering money in exchange for
00:10:02votes, he didn't say it like that, no, he didn't say it like that, but we have
00:10:06to understand them, that is, for the Republicans to win, if you earn your
00:10:10$5, you have to make sure to help us, no, well at the end of
00:10:14the day what is that, it's a vote buying,
00:10:17literally, what surprise will President Donald Trump come up with today, I don't know, Vice President
00:10:21JD Vance will also speak, we will be attentive, we will be entering and
00:10:25leaving precisely this convention that is taking place there in
00:10:28Dallas, while we also analyze the electoral map, yesterday I was talking
00:10:32precisely
00:10:34about this, the ruling that has already been confirmed, this ruling
00:10:38precisely in Missouri
00:10:41where they could not redesign the
00:10:45electoral map,
00:10:48so it remained as it was, remember that they did it in Texas,
00:10:51California also did the same to counteract, but in Missouri
00:10:54the... US Supreme Court
00:10:58congressional map of Missouri, that was the
00:11:02Republican one for the elections, so from there they could not gain an advantage, what they
00:11:05are looking for with these redesigns of electoral
00:11:08maps is to have a greater number
00:11:12of seats in the legislature
00:11:15to favor them and have a little more margin, but
00:11:19well, in Missouri they already threw it back, in short, many things to talk
00:11:22about and analyze regarding this
00:11:25that happened yesterday with Trump, what will happen tonight
00:11:28and that well,
00:11:32points to this very important for Donald Trump,
00:11:35very important mid-term election, which can
00:11:39completely, completely change
00:11:42his mandate in the last 2 years. Let's start then, if you
00:11:45agree, we are attentive, let me know when President Donald
00:11:49Trump comes in to speak at this convention, we have the live signal
00:11:52monitoring, of course JD Vance also the vice president,
00:11:55so we will be with that during this whole hour, let's
00:11:58start.
00:12:04I ask you that from this moment on and throughout this program you join me using
00:12:08the hashtag #conclump, the numeral is #conclump, your comments with
00:12:11this hashtag on my account on
00:12:14X @soyfdelrincon @soyf
00:12:16delrincon.
00:12:25God bless the USA.
00:12:28And here is my promise. If the Republicans win the
00:12:32House of Representatives and the
00:12:36them. I will issue a dividend to every adult
00:12:39citizen in the United States of America for
00:12:43$5,000. So if the Republicans
00:12:46win, you win with us and you get
00:12:49$5,000. It will be
00:12:52called the Trump dividend.
00:12:59That's what I was telling you at the beginning of the program, that was the moment, that
00:13:03controversial figure, $5, that
00:13:06President Trump offers to pay every American,
00:13:09of course, only if the Republicans manage to
00:13:13maintain legislative control in the November elections, is this a
00:13:17promise or just empty words? I don't
00:13:20know, I don't know, no, but Trump closed the inaugural
00:13:24day of the Republican party convention, an event that is
00:13:27held for the first time, as I told you, for the mid-term elections, this
00:13:31convention which is completely
00:13:34atypical, it had not been done before,
00:13:37this is finally campaigning, we have to understand it that way,
00:13:40they are campaigning for the mid-term elections, was there campaigning before, no, there wasn't
00:13:44campaigning before, it's the first time, of course, in
00:13:48the context for Trump it's necessary to do it, it's
00:13:51necessary to do it, why, because the numbers are not adding up for
00:13:55the Republicans, that's the reality, now the promise of
00:13:59$5,000 has of course been
00:14:03criticized by many, interpreted as I told you, practically a
00:14:06vote buying, they have even criticized him within
00:14:10his own ranks, others call it bribery, vote
00:14:14buying, bribery, whatever you want to call it, this is
00:14:17not the first offer of this type, no, we have to take
00:14:20that into account, let's go to April 2025,
00:14:24there Trump talked about... $5 checks financed with
00:14:27cuts to government spending, months later
00:14:30in November he promised another $2, for what he called a
00:14:34tariff dividend, and in
00:14:37December he proposed giving between $100 and $500 for savings
00:14:40accounts for health expenses,
00:14:44now what happened with all that, well all
00:14:47those amounts remained
00:14:51he said yesterday, is it serious or are they just empty words? I mean,
00:14:55given all this background I'm telling you, they could be empty
00:14:58words, no
00:14:59populism,
00:15:05reality, you see, it happens, no, he says it, but
00:15:08it happens, many are going to be waiting for it to
00:15:12arrive, no, even if it's just to one
00:15:15of so many, if it arrives, no, if he
00:15:19wins, there's a long way to go to see if the words will just remain
00:15:23there, as he
00:15:25Trump, imagine that I'm on the ballot, because no, he's not on the November
00:15:29ballot, no. Now, what do we see? Well,
00:15:33a desperate act,
00:15:36he desperately needs voters to act
00:15:39as if he were on the ballot, yes, he's
00:15:43calling his base to support
00:15:46him in this mid-term election, as if
00:15:50he were the one taking the risk, which in the end he is taking the risk
00:15:54because this will completely impact his
00:15:57mandate.
00:15:59Now, how feasible is it for this type of
00:16:04effect at a time when Trump
00:16:07has a very low approval rating?
00:16:11Yes, in many states, Trump
00:16:15barely, barely exceeds 30%,
00:16:18depending on the polls you see, Trump would be
00:16:21between 30 and 36%, I repeat,
00:16:25depending on the poll you see, it ranges between 30 and
00:16:2836% approval, not
00:16:3036%
00:16:33and I tell you, in many states he barely exceeds 30%, that is, it is not
00:16:36at all the best moment for Donald Trump and even more
00:16:40the situation is complicated by the war with
00:16:43Iran, first because he promised that he would not get us into a war, he got us into a
00:16:47war, but the consequence of that
00:16:49war is that it has driven up the price of
00:16:51gasoline, there it is,
00:16:55that plus the economy,
00:16:58generate enormous pressure and there is also an enormous social
00:17:02unrest, oil due to this war, due to the Strait of
00:17:06Hormuz, due to everything you already know, reached $100 per
00:17:09barrel, it even passed $100 per barrel,
00:17:13meanwhile the president tries to convince voters that the economy
00:17:17is under control, but it is not
00:17:19so, the impact on their pockets says otherwise,
00:17:22everyone, Republicans talk about tax cuts
00:17:26and more money for families, but Trump says that prices will
00:17:29go down when the United States wins the
00:17:32war, when it wins the war, no, he
00:17:36hasn't said so many times that... this war has already been won, when will it be won then, it
00:17:39was won, it hasn't been won, it will be won,
00:17:43because when it wins the war, when does the United
00:17:45States win the war, because according to Trump, it has already
00:17:48been won, he has said it
00:17:50many times, that on the one
00:17:54hand, yes, the issue of
00:17:57war, the issue of immigration, the
00:18:01issue of the cost of living, the issue of
00:18:04fuel, Trump also said.
00:18:08The price of gasoline will go down, yes, after the mid-term
00:18:12elections.
00:18:15Why will the price of gasoline go down after the mid-term elections? He doesn't explain
00:18:18it, no, but he always tries to put the mid-term
00:18:22elections in the middle of such sensitive
00:18:26issues, imagine when, imagine,
00:18:29put yourself in this scenario, you are
00:18:32a father, you are a family of four, your
00:18:36wife and two children. And you live
00:18:40paycheck to paycheck, you can't afford more, and they
00:18:44say: I'm going to give you $5,
00:18:49what $500 represents for a family of four people who
00:18:52lives day to day barely with the what
00:18:56it represents?
00:18:59I don't know, bribery, yes, it could be bribery or buying
00:19:03the vote, but believe me, at this moment
00:19:06for many families. it makes a huge
00:19:08difference.
00:19:10Now, in the electoral arena there are other key data,
00:19:13no, two key states, Maine and
00:19:16Michigan, in both, in both
00:19:20Maine and Michigan, the Senate races are practically tied
00:19:23for the Senate, attention, I already told you, the House of Representatives
00:19:27has much more chance for the Democrats to take it, the Senate
00:19:31was more complicated for them, it was more closed, well
00:19:34now in key states this:
00:19:37they are practically tied, I'm talking about Maine and Michigan in this case,
00:19:41but close to two out of every three voters are
00:19:45disapproving of Trump's work, yes,
00:19:48in Maine only 31% approve of his
00:19:51management compared to 67% who disapprove, and in
00:19:55Michigan 34% approve and 65% disapprove,
00:19:59and the problem for Republicans doesn't end
00:20:02there, as I also told you at the beginning of the program, the Supreme Court rejected today
00:20:06this district map, this redesign of the
00:20:09electoral district map of Missouri that looked
00:20:12favorable for Republicans, because it could have given them an
00:20:16additional seat, which is what the redesign of these maps seeks,
00:20:20these district maps for the election,
00:20:23well, it gives them a chance to have one more seat
00:20:27here, another one there, etc., but well,
00:20:29that already happened in Missouri, in the
00:20:32decision, the state will programmatically have to return
00:20:36to the previous map. It has to return to the previous map that contemplated
00:20:40six competitive districts for Republicans instead of seven, the
00:20:43case matters a lot, because right now one seat is
00:20:46fundamental, yes, it is
00:20:50part of Trump's effort to take advantage of that redistribution of
00:20:54districts in different states, but
00:20:57there is also a race against time, because from now until, let's see, from now
00:21:00until November, less than two
00:21:03months, will he have time to fix anything that is
00:21:07wrong, in the war,
00:21:10in the cost of
00:21:12living, in the price of
00:21:15fuel,
00:21:18in immigration I won't even tell you anything.
00:21:20Because the impact has already occurred and it's a job that
00:21:24won't change or a policy that won't change
00:21:27now, in the case, I told you yesterday,
00:21:30TPS for Salvadorans expired, well now
00:21:33they are still protected by TPS while a decision is made, but
00:21:36they are still protected, but well, how much influence can that
00:21:39have?
00:21:43Will two months be enough to turn the scenario around
00:21:46depending on these factors that voters mention are most
00:21:50important to them?
00:21:54How much more is at stake in these midterm elections? The
00:21:57answer is very easy, it's
00:22:00Trump's freedom to govern as he
00:22:03pleases, because if they take away the legislature, if
00:22:07they take away the legislature he won't be able to do much in the next two years
00:22:10and who knows, who knows, if they
00:22:14can do much to him.
00:22:17Anyway, we'll be talking about all this, we'll be doing... crisis with my guests tonight, at
00:22:21the same time we'll be taking parts of the speech of
00:22:24JD Vance and Donald Trump and based on that we'll
00:22:28be developing if you agree, so I'm going to welcome
00:22:31or introduce my guests and then I'll go to the break, I'm going to introduce my guests and then
00:22:35I'll come back fully with them so we can talk, Rocío Vélez will be
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00:22:42on screen and José Aris Timuño who was with me yesterday, former
00:22:46press undersecretary of the Democratic party, both ready, I'll be back.
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00:26:22That's the atmosphere, you know they're like parties, these
00:26:25conventions there's a lot of show,
00:26:29music, this.
00:26:33fans to fans yesterday there was a large group of women there in the front
00:26:37row of the fans of Donald
00:26:40Trump's base, in fact Donald Trump mentioned them, he said these women
00:26:43have been in I don't know how many
00:26:47they had been in a lot of conventions, they follow him
00:26:51around the country etc. So
00:26:53well that's the atmosphere that
00:26:57is lived and the atmosphere that is lived here well we are going to discover it with my
00:27:01guests, welcome Rocío Vélez, Republican
00:27:04strategist, to José Aristimuño, former press
00:27:07undersecretary of the Democratic party. Rocío, welcome, thank
00:27:11you José for being here again, thank you,
00:27:13pleasure,
00:27:17a pleasure, listen, I'm going to start with Rocío, I'm going with the controversy of
00:27:21the $5, a reading,
00:27:24different readings, Rocío, this, bribery,
00:27:28vote buying or just another occurrence from Donald Trump, but
00:27:32I think that in any case it's very bad, right? Or how
00:27:36can we justify that, how do you interpret it, what do
00:27:39you say about this
00:27:42oferta?
00:27:44Look, I think it's a problem that the Republican
00:27:48party is facing on top of it,
00:27:50because what is called the get out the vote, right,
00:27:54getting people to vote, is a
00:27:57situation for in terms of a
00:28:01mid-term election. So in the middle of that
00:28:05we have the owner of the Apprentice, right, a Donald Trump who
00:28:08usually and he has done it through and you said it earlier in
00:28:12the program they had made several offers, both
00:28:15$1,500 and $500 previously last
00:28:18year and in all this I don't disagree
00:28:21with doing it, it's a populist measure but a
00:28:25dividend is a dividend from taxpayers, if they do it on the
00:28:29basis of what is called a tax refund, right, all of us who have
00:28:32paid contributive payroll and in some way it's
00:28:36a return, right, a certain amount is returned to me, there's
00:28:40no problem, however, he launches it in a very
00:28:43very very cunning
00:28:47way where he says: we are going to give $5 to
00:28:50everyone, meaning it is not specified, to pass that measure, it still has
00:28:54to go through Congress, it could do so if he really
00:28:58receives the trillions of dollars eh that he claims
00:29:01to have received. But the problem that the Republican party has is
00:29:04that eh catching
00:29:08these the independent part who were the voters who
00:29:11gave him victory in 2024 a Donald Trump
00:29:15is going to be much more difficult and the Republican party knows that, Donald
00:29:18Trump knows that, eh that's why he puts himself out there and says "I'm on the
00:29:22ballot, so pretend I'm there on the ballot
00:29:26and go out and vote for me." So it's a little ironic
00:29:31the past 40 eh congressional ones, usually the incumbent
00:29:35party gets the protest vote, so I don't
00:29:39think that will make a difference,
00:29:43the on the ballot then I find it even more ironic because he
00:29:46has a low approval rating, what happens is that the Democratic
00:29:49party is also giving us gifts because we have this situation
00:29:53of socialism from the different people
00:29:56and personalities that are in the in the
00:29:59congressional races and I think it will be something very
00:30:02interesting to see in the next two months,
00:30:05ah Rocio, what
00:30:09well now we will delve deeper because that's what I
00:30:11was going to tell you, if you see it,
00:30:15I'm going to continue with Rocio because this topic interests
00:30:18me, you were saying, eh,
00:30:21if they give us back, for example, $5 in
00:30:25taxes, eh then
00:30:28it's valid, but I insist that
00:30:32why should they give us back $5 for
00:30:35voting for Republicans? That's illegal, it's vote buying,
00:30:38here you're not inviting people to vote, you're
00:30:42conditioning them, I'm going to give you money if I
00:30:45win, in any legislation and
00:30:49and I think if we review American law, vote buying is
00:30:52illegal, that the argument tries to be
00:30:56something eh light, humorous.