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00:00:37terrorist groups, have been seen operating Welcome to Conclusiones, I'm Iván Pérez Armenti for Fernando del
00:00:40Rincón, here today on Conclusiones, a high-ranking
00:00:44this network official confirmed to our network that President Donald Trump and Venezuela's interim leader,
00:00:46Delsie Rodríguez, will hold an informal meeting
00:00:50on the sidelines of the UN Assembly in New York. The meeting is scheduled
00:00:54for Tuesday. The UN's independent international fact-finding
00:00:58mission on Venezuela states that, despite political
00:01:02changes in the country, the state's repressive apparatus remains
00:01:06intact and continues to be a human rights
00:01:09concern.
00:01:12should be like the spearhead US armed forces are expected to transfer MQ9
00:01:14Reaper drones, currently operating over Africa, to the
00:01:17US command responsible for South America, according to six
00:01:21sources familiar with the
00:01:23planning, who informed
00:01:25CNN. And US President Donald Trump threatens to ban CNN
00:01:29(ms now) and political coverage from the White House,
00:01:33but CNN responds and assures that it will defend its journalists and their constitutional
00:02:00that is trying to take over the hemisphere and cannot be
00:02:03allowed, and the only way to defeat that is to
00:02:06confront it, confront it
00:02:08strongly.
00:02:12The United States is moving from words to military movements. The
00:02:15Pentagon is preparing to transfer MQ9 Reaper drones to the
00:02:19area under the command of Southcom, which is responsible for covering Latin
00:02:22America and the Caribbean. Six
00:02:25sources familiar with the plans told CNN that the drones currently
00:02:29operating from Africa could be used in future anti-narcotics
00:02:32and anti-terrorist operations in the region.
00:02:35It is not clear how many will be transferred to Southcom, but it could be
00:02:39the majority, they said. And one of the possible scenarios is in
00:02:43Ecuador. According to three of the sources, possible operations
00:02:46in that country are being considered, although as a precedent it is worth remembering
00:02:51used for? Because we mentioned the that this year Ecuador began to conduct joint
00:02:54are always exposed to criticism, military operations with the United States against designated terrorist
00:02:57organizations, but it is not alone. Colombia
00:03:01is also deepening its military cooperation with Washington. During his visit
00:03:05to three South American countries, Rubio said he
00:03:07sought to usher in a golden
00:03:09Mancora, the best surfing destination in era in the relationship with Colombia. Earlier this month,
00:03:13CNN reported that President Abelardo de la Espriella had reached an
00:03:16agreement with the United States. The deal involves the
00:03:19loan of three MQ9 Reaper drones intended to monitor
00:03:23drug trafficking corridors and carry out possible precision
00:03:26strikes. Panama is also part of
00:03:30the scheme. On Thursday, the US Embassy in Panama announced
00:03:34the delivery of long-range drone systems to that country. These
00:03:37are different from the MQ9s, although they have similar
00:03:40objectives. The intervention is to provide the National
00:03:44Aeronaval Service with the capacity to monitor remote borders,
00:03:47protect strategic maritime corridors and dismantle illicit drug
00:03:51trafficking and human trafficking networks, they maintained. This
00:03:55withdrawal from Africa comes despite persistent
00:03:58concern
00:04:00about terrorism on the continent. US military commanders
00:04:03have warned that groups like ISIS and
00:04:06al-Shabab have continued to gain strength as the
00:04:10US presence has dwindled in recent
00:04:14region. What years. The Pentagon declined to comment for this article. And in recent
00:04:18weeks we have seen how the map of military cooperation between Washington and
00:04:22Latin America is changing and it's not just about
00:04:25surveillance. The United States has been carrying out attacks against alleged
00:04:29drug traffickers in the Caribbean and the Eastern Pacific for months. These
00:04:32operations have left at least 230 people dead,
00:04:36a stop to what according to data cited by CNN. But the impact on
00:04:39drug trafficking remains
00:04:42significant decrease in long-term a subject of debate. Officials and experts cited by CNN say it is unclear if the attacks have
00:04:46durably reduced trafficking or if criminal groups are simply
00:04:50changing their routes and methods.
00:04:52So, the question is whether the provision of more weaponry and more attacks
00:04:56is the solution to the problem or merely mechanisms of pressure. We will
00:05:00discuss it with my first
00:05:01guest.
00:05:09I now welcome Arturo Grandón, National Security analyst, intelligence,
00:05:13and defense and antiterrorism, who joins us from
00:05:16Washington. Arturo, thank you for being with us. I'll start
00:05:20by asking you the basic question: How should we interpret this
00:05:23movement of these drones from Africa to America,
00:05:26Latin America? Why is the United States doing it and why
00:05:29now? Well, because they effectively
00:05:33realized that this part
00:05:35of the continent was abandoned
00:05:39and was actually being
00:05:43attacked by China, by Russia, and by Iran, where
00:05:46several cells, including
00:05:50in the area. But in your introduction, you mentioned
00:05:53Ecuador, Colombia, and Panama, but
00:05:57there is also quite intense
00:06:00collaboration in El Salvador, there
00:06:03have also begun collaborative operations
00:06:06in Guatemala, and they have been
00:06:09working intensely since last year in Peru. So
00:06:13precisely for this argument of the
00:06:17fight against organized
00:06:20crime and against international drug trafficking, which can lead
00:06:23to two types of analysis:
00:06:27one, that it is indeed for that purpose, and another, that the United
00:06:30States does not lose its presence in the Latin American
00:06:34continent.
00:06:36Earlier in the introduction, we also referred to the sinking of boats
00:06:40that allegedly, according to the United States,
00:06:43were transporting drug traffickers.
00:06:47How does this relate to that and also to the so-called Shield of the Americas, which
00:06:50is another of the United States' bets in the region? We need
00:06:54to consider two things: effectively, when
00:06:58a vessel is sunk,
00:07:00it remains doubtful whether it was indeed
00:07:04transporting illicit
00:07:06substances or not. For example, in the case of El Salvador,
00:07:10which does intercept vessels in international
00:07:13waters, it detains the
00:07:16drug traffickers and hands over
00:07:19the cargo that these vessels are carrying to the
00:07:23authorities. In this case, it is bombed by the United
00:07:27States, and it has not been clear whether
00:07:29they were transporting illicit substances or not. That is still
00:07:33under investigation. Therefore, a vacuum is created
00:07:37between what the authorities say and what could
00:07:40actually be. Therefore, more than the attack
00:07:44against these cells or these groups
00:07:47of drug traffickers or organized crime, we are
00:07:50seeing that the use of drones in intelligence
00:07:54work is the most precise thing we could
00:07:57say at this moment.
00:08:00Now, what are these particular drones
00:08:04model, but how can they be used? Well, these
00:08:07drones are generally used
00:08:11for surveillance, intelligence gathering, and
00:08:15in reality, if conditions and the situation warrant it,
00:08:19for precision lethal strikes
00:08:22on the target. And that
00:08:25is actually done in coordination with local forces, with ground
00:08:29forces. Precisely what I was saying
00:08:32previously, these drones are
00:08:36being used for electronic surveillance and for
00:08:38gathering intelligence on circulation routes of
00:08:42possible regroupings
00:08:45of guerrilla
00:08:48units or organized
00:08:51crime units or even drug
00:08:55trafficking, and that has been seen on the border
00:08:58between, sorry, between
00:09:01Ecuador, Colombia, and Venezuela, where the
00:09:04National Liberation Army is reorganizing, and that is the information that
00:09:08exists so far.
00:09:11Among the considerations, they basically talk about fighting
00:09:14drug trafficking, against
00:09:18criminal organizations. You just mentioned the presence of
00:09:21China, Iran, and Russia in the
00:09:27worries the United States the most? Does it worry about drug trafficking, or is it actually
00:09:30a good facade to really deal with this other thing?
00:09:34I think it's oriented towards both,
00:09:38towards both fronts, so that they don't lose their
00:09:41capacity against foreign
00:09:44powers like Russia, like
00:09:48China and Iran, but
00:09:51also because of the high risk of drug and narcotics entering the United
00:09:55States. So, they are attacking on one side,
00:09:59but they are neglecting a part that is important, which
00:10:02is prevention within the country
00:10:04itself. We mentioned some
00:10:08countries in the introduction, you mentioned others. Is there any country that the United
00:10:12States cannot impose on, perhaps thinking of
00:10:15Brazil, for example, which is one of the few countries
00:10:18that discusses more or less on equal terms with
00:10:21Donald Trump? Is there anyone in the region who can say no to this?
00:10:26And look, only Brazil at this moment, because we are
00:10:29in an election period, and
00:10:33both candidates, both right-wing and left-wing,
00:10:36are fighting to get to power, so that's quite
00:10:40ambiguous. But right now, there are countries that are already
00:10:44really seeing the possibility of joining
00:10:47the Shield of the Americas, and they are doing it very
00:10:51timidly, but they are getting closer. Argentina,
00:10:54Chile, is one of
00:10:57them. Costa Rica is also carrying out quite
00:11:00interesting work, and the last one, which is a bit complicated, is
00:11:04Honduras, where we are seeing how it could join
00:11:09of the Shield of the Americas, especially since Honduras is suffering
00:11:13the strongest blows, as is Guatemala, from organized
00:11:16crime and drug trafficking and Mexican
00:11:19cartels.
00:11:21Arturo, we're going to take a break. Now I ask you to stay with us. When we return,
00:11:25I will continue talking with Arturo Grandón, National Security, intelligence, defense, and
00:11:29antiterrorism analyst, and we are going to ask what is happening in Africa, where these drones are going from. Short
00:11:33break and we continue talking about
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00:14:47We continue our conversation with Arturo Grandón, an analyst in National Security, Intelligence, Defense
00:14:51and Anti-terrorism, about this movement of drones that the United States
00:14:55is making from Africa to Latin America.
00:14:59And precisely, Arturo, I wanted to talk about Africa. What happens
00:15:02with Africa? Why does the United States decide to move these drones from
00:15:06Africa? Is the danger in Africa over? Does it choose to leave
00:15:08Africa unprotected? Why are these
00:15:12drones taken from there? There have been
00:15:15several incidents in Africa. The last incident was
00:15:19now in August of this year where a
00:15:22drone, an MK9 Reaper,
00:15:25crashed in Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa,
00:15:28near the Chabelley Air Base,
00:15:31at Camp Lemonier,
00:15:35there, in reality,
00:15:38there were detentions in the Red Sea, but there were no
00:15:41civilian or military casualties, but this is a series of events that has been happening
00:15:45since 2014 onwards. For people to know, between 2014
00:15:49and 2015, there
00:15:51were documented incidents due to problems
00:15:55and failures with the drones in the electrical
00:15:59power supply. Then in May 2023, we had
00:16:02another problem with the
00:16:06drone systems
00:16:09and this forced some
00:16:12equipment worth 21 million dollars
00:16:16each to crash.
00:16:19Then the last one was now
00:16:22in Djibouti. But there have also been a series
00:16:25of situations. Let's not forget
00:16:28that the tactical deployment in
00:16:32Nigeria also ends, given
00:16:36that in Niger, the system
00:16:39is lost in 2026, given
00:16:43that, in reality, the new government
00:16:47did not want the United States to remain there, so
00:16:50there is no stable base
00:16:54in that location. Nigeria, in reality, where multiple
00:16:58Reapers were deployed,
00:17:00also about 200 American soldiers.
00:17:04Therefore, combat operations are restricted
00:17:07in the area. So, I think
00:17:11from that side, the United States has turned its
00:17:14attention to South America, which is ultimately
00:17:18what it is trying to regain or
00:17:21rescue, in order for them to have complete control
00:17:25of the American continent.
00:17:28But let's say that the threats they at some point saw in Africa
00:17:32to make all this deployment in that continent did not cease,
00:17:36in any case, it became complicated for them, but the threats, in principle,
00:17:40continue. The threats continue. Boko
00:17:43Haram, which is the terrorist group that is strongest
00:17:46in those places, continues
00:17:50its operations and the Islamic
00:17:53State province in West
00:17:55Africa also, but there
00:17:59have not been any major combat
00:18:03or major confrontations lately, but Boko
00:18:06Haram, which is the most established, continues to operate
00:18:09throughout the region and that has not been controlled,
00:18:12the same as what happened in Afghanistan. In this area, it has not been controlled by
00:18:16the Americans either.
00:18:19I was thinking while you were talking about Afghanistan, I mean, this could be partly
00:18:22due to the same logic of having first left
00:18:25Afghanistan, now leaving Africa. I mean, beyond whether the issues
00:18:29have been resolved or not, it could respond to that logic. Does it
00:18:33have to do with the logic that perhaps the blanket is too short, as they
00:18:36need it in America? Well, they have to take them out of Africa because there's no other place
00:18:40to take them out from. How do you interpret it? I
00:18:44would say that you guess it, it is indeed
00:18:48so, it is indeed so, because in reality the
00:18:51operations in Africa are not having a positive
00:18:54result, nor is there absolutely nothing
00:18:58to rescue, except the lives of the people who are being persecuted
00:19:01and executed by Boko Haram. But
00:19:05it is more important at this moment for the United States, the
00:19:09problem in all of South America, the Shield of the Americas, and of
00:19:12course, what is happening in Greenland, but in the southern
00:19:16part of our beloved America is what
00:19:19also has greater concern, and
00:19:23that's why Marco Rubio is traveling the
00:19:25area. So far we have focused
00:19:29from the perspective of the United States' needs. If we think about it in reverse, if we
00:19:33think about it from South America, does it help South America for these drones to patrol
00:19:36its territory? Does it help the countries of South America? Does it
00:19:40help them in their relationship with the United States? I mean,
00:19:44does it bring any benefit to South American countries
00:19:47to have these drones in their land, in their
00:19:50air? It should be, it should be,
00:19:54since these drones will primarily
00:19:58be used as intelligence
00:20:02gathering units, and that intelligence
00:20:05information supposedly should be
00:20:08exchanged with the countries to be able to put
00:20:13has been happening with the drug cartels, with the
00:20:17drug traffickers, and with transnational organized crime,
00:20:21which, in the years before
00:20:242025, more or less, this began in 2015
00:20:27onwards, a strong migration of criminal
00:20:30groups, criminal groups,
00:20:33and Mexican cartels
00:20:37to move to different countries to carry out
00:20:40their illicit business. Therefore,
00:20:44it should, as we are all more or less affected
00:20:48by this issue of drug trafficking and organized crime,
00:20:52it should be interesting the
00:20:54cooperation, dual,
00:20:58from the United States to the countries
00:21:01that have a greater problem with this scourge of drug trafficking
00:21:05and vice versa. Let's see if it's like that and not only used in one
00:21:09direction for the intelligence information that will
00:21:11be obtained. Lastly, you mentioned Marco
00:21:15Rubio, the Shield of the Americas, this new
00:21:18focus of the Trump administration to turn its attention back to Latin
00:21:22America. What happens if Trump doesn't do well in the midterm
00:21:26elections? Does this continue, can it slow down, does it depend
00:21:29on that, or does it go beyond the midterm elections in the United States, this whole
00:21:33issue? Well,
00:21:36the issue should be maintained over time, but it will
00:21:39depend on the arrival of a new government, if it goes
00:21:43badly for President Donald Trump, and
00:21:46what criteria and strategy the new
00:21:50authorities will use. But this
00:21:53should not have a political color, it should
00:21:56be maintained over time, because without security there is no development for any
00:21:59country. Therefore, this
00:22:02for countries to be able to develop
00:22:06regardless of who is governing in the United States,
00:22:08right? Arturo, thank you for being with
00:22:11us. That was Arturo Grandón, National Security, intelligence, defense, and
00:22:15antiterrorism analyst, who joined us from Washington and helped us understand a little about what
00:22:30later, has Venezuela changed, or just the
00:22:33facade? Behind the political movements, a UN mission
00:22:37warns that something remains intact and could be key to
00:22:40understanding what is happening in the country. We'll be back with this
00:22:43topic.
00:22:57A look at the reconstruction efforts of a city and the hope
00:23:01of a people determined to rise again. It evolved
00:23:05very quickly, and we never thought it would reach category
00:23:08five. And to understand what is happening, let's go
00:23:12to my colleague Ione Molinares in Washington.
00:23:16The explosion, well, we can see the dimension it had to take away
00:23:20the entire facade. We hear the protagonists,
00:23:24they made fun of us as mothers and fathers of the
00:23:2643. Where she lived, a bomb fell. We are about to
00:23:30board this Mexican air force plane bound for
00:23:33Romania to get a complete picture. We are here
00:23:37as migrants to progress and help this country grow. There are great
00:23:41stories to know and many perspectives to analyze.
00:23:44Perspectives with Mario González, Monday to
00:23:48Friday on CNN.
00:25:50on CNN.
00:26:00In that placement of objects, assets, and
00:26:03relationships,
00:26:07that has been advanced. Let's not talk about other chapters such as equality between
00:26:11men and women, such as
00:26:13working conditions, such as the distribution of wealth, which is one
00:26:17of the problems that globalization has had, that is,
00:26:21well, you have to be thinking about a distribution of wealth
00:26:25that works and that does not create tensions, that
00:26:28part of the tension, and we no longer have time for that,
00:26:32of... of recent times, is very, very based
00:26:35in that tension produced by the global economy.
00:26:52CNN backed the journalistic team covering the White House after
00:26:55Donald Trump announced the prohibition of journalists from our
00:26:59network covering the White House. He said that he fully supports
00:27:02his team and that his journalists have a constitutional right to
00:27:05report without government interference. In the initial
00:27:09veto, the president also included MS Snown and Politico,
00:27:13although he did not rule out that more would come later. Trump tried to
00:27:16justify the measure by saying that it supposedly disseminates fake news
00:27:20and fictions about his administration. But let's remember
00:27:23that there is already an important precedent. In 2018, the
00:27:26White House tried to withdraw the credentials of CNN journalist
00:27:30Jim Acosta, but a federal judge
00:27:33temporarily ordered his access to be reinstated due to due
00:27:37process violations, although the president said that the veto is effective
00:27:42no indication that it has been put into
00:27:45practice.
00:27:50It was important to cover the trial of Genaro García Luna because this is
00:27:54the highest-ranking public official
00:27:57in Mexico to be prosecuted and
00:28:00convicted in the United States for drug trafficking.
00:28:04It was incredible to be there, to listen to
00:28:07these testimonies and to be able to learn
00:28:10exactly how drug cartels work
00:28:14and how they can operate with the
00:28:17support, many times, of government
00:28:20officials. Covering a federal trial in the United States is always
00:28:24a difficult task. You have to arrive at the
00:28:27court very early to secure a place
00:28:31inside the courtroom, but also because cameras are not
00:28:34allowed to record what is happening in the room,
00:28:38so you have to take notes. Imagine 8 hours
00:28:42taking notes of everything that is said, everything that happens,
00:28:46to be able to report it to you.
00:29:41We continue in conclusions and I ask you to join me from this
00:29:57States Forces of President Nicolás Maduro and his wife Cilia Flores,
00:30:00Venezuela has an interim government.
00:30:03Rodríguez, and the scenario began to change, to look somewhat
00:30:06different, at least in the political
00:30:09and economic spheres, especially with the United States,
00:30:12whose relationship took a 180-degree turn in diplomatic and
00:30:15commercial matters. But according to the United
00:30:18Nations Independent International Fact-Finding Mission,
00:30:22the structures responsible for repression
00:30:25remain intact. This is, in essence, the message of the
00:30:29new report presented this Wednesday. There are improvements.
00:30:32They are limited in human rights. There are releases from prison, an amnesty
00:30:36law, a somewhat greater margin for protests, public gatherings,
00:30:40and civil society participation. And the mission recognizes a
00:30:45detentions and forced disappearances,
00:30:48but this is where the list of decreases in abuses ends. According to the
00:30:51mission, the state institutions responsible for
00:30:55repression, serious human rights violations, and
00:30:58crimes against humanity.