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00:01:41consequences. One of
00:02:48reflection. I invite you, as always, to
00:03:21settlement by which Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram,
00:03:25committed to pay up to 18 million
00:03:28dollars to make changes in Instagram and Facebook to protect
00:03:32the mental health of minors. Will anything change
00:03:36now or not much at all? We are talking
00:03:39with Arturo Bejar, the former
00:03:42software engineer at Instagram, who was for years one of the
00:03:46people in charge of child protection on that social
00:03:49network and who testified for the prosecution of lawyers from 48
00:03:53states against the company. Let's continue with the interview. Eh
00:03:57Arturo, Facebook, Instagram, that is,
00:04:00Meta, agreed with the plaintiffs to make more
00:04:04tensions, because part of efforts to certify that minors under 13 years old do not
00:04:07join social networks. Now my question,
00:04:10as an engineer, you specialize in that, you have
00:04:14worked for years on that, can it be prevented that minors under 13
00:04:18years old join social
00:04:20networks by lying about their age or asking an older sibling or a older
00:04:24friend to open an account for them? That is, can
00:04:28these companies ensure that minors under 13 years old do not open
00:04:30accounts? Not only is it possible,
00:04:34but it's easy. When
00:04:37I worked for the company, one of my
00:04:40results, not efforts, and that is what responsibilities was all the systems for detecting
00:04:44fake accounts. People, and there are people
00:04:47all over the world who are very capable of trying to create
00:04:51accounts to be able to sell things, to be able to
00:04:55cause harm through these services. There are many, many people working on
00:04:58that. Yes. Systems have the ability to
00:05:02find the account that an 8, 9, 10-year-old
00:05:05boy or girl created. What hasn't
00:05:09existed is the will on the part of the company.
00:05:12ways to find them and also the will of governments to
00:05:15restrict them. So the agreement helps with that. The whole
00:05:19area of age verification is
00:05:22good, but in the end of the day, what each country
00:05:26should do is ask its young people, "Hey, do you have an
00:05:30Instagram account, do you have a TikTok account?" And if
00:05:33young people say yes, that should be the result
00:05:37on which the company and the agreement should focus,
00:05:41because it doesn't matter how many things they add
00:05:45while young people are still there. But you say that it would be technically easy
00:05:48to detect a fake account. How is that?
00:05:52Technically it's easy because when you see
00:05:56an account, whichever it is, the hours a
00:05:59day that it's using the service tell you a lot. Who the
00:06:03friends are tells you a lot. What the interests are tells you
00:06:07a lot. There are a series of things that you can observe
00:06:12help you find young people because those things are very
00:06:16similar among young people.
00:06:18Even I have done tests directly where I have created accounts and I have
00:06:22gotten in. It's sometimes as easy as looking for
00:06:26children who are talking about their birthday when they are turning 8 years
00:06:29old and they are putting on the screen their
00:06:32age number while singing a song.
00:06:36There they are, they are not hiding. They can be
00:06:39found and if an effective
00:06:42verification is desired, it is not about asking for more data or identities
00:06:46or anything. The company already has the
00:06:48information. It's about will and it's about
00:06:53the biggest concerns of many people is that this out-of-court
00:06:56settlement is an agreement between the plaintiffs and
00:06:59Meta, Instagram and Facebook, but it does not force other social networks to do the
00:07:03same. Won't this cause many
00:07:06minors to migrate from Instagram to other platforms or
00:07:10do you think something will happen with all social networks?
00:07:14I think there is an extraordinary moment right now created
00:07:17by this agreement and by the states of the United States and this
00:07:21legal process in which everyone in the world is asking the
00:07:25question, how can we take this
00:07:28and make it better? So I think there is a lot of pressure
00:07:32here. There is pressure in Europe, there is pressure in Mexico, there is pressure in
00:07:35England, because everyone realized that something that the
00:07:39company would never, ever have thought would happen, a reduction in
00:07:43time, is the new reality. At the same time, that's not
00:07:46enough. So I think we are at a moment where if the
00:07:50world follows up, ideally all platforms will be
00:07:54on par. Let's remember that for several weeks we have invited
00:07:57Meta, the parent company of Instagram and Facebook, to participate in today's
00:08:01program, but we did not receive an answer. Previously, Meta
00:08:04has denied that its platforms harm minors,
00:08:08and said that the agreement reached with the
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00:11:45by which Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram,
00:11:49committed to pay up to 18 million
00:11:51dollars to make changes in Instagram and Facebook
00:11:55to protect the mental health of minors. Will anything change now
00:11:59or not much at all? We continue talking with
00:12:02Arturo Bejar, the former Instagram software
00:12:06engineer, who testified for the prosecution of lawyers from these
00:12:0948 states against the company. Let's continue with the
00:12:12interview. Arturo, tell me a little about your personal story. You were born in Mexico,
00:12:16right? How did you get to Meta
00:12:19and how long did you work there? I was
00:12:22born in Mexico. I started working for IBM in Mexico City
00:12:26at 15 years old. Then,
00:12:29fortunately, I met one of the co-founders of Apple,
00:12:32Steve Wozniak, the other Steve, and thanks to
00:12:36him I was able to study in England where I continued working for
00:12:39IBM. After many years there, I ended up at
00:12:43Yahoo, when Yahoo was the largest internet company for many
00:12:47years, in charge of security and
00:12:50young people. From there, Meta recruited me in 2009
00:12:53as the person responsible for
00:12:57security, welfare, customer service. When
00:13:00I started, there were 250 million
00:13:04people, and when I left the first time in 2015, I was
00:13:07responsible for these issues for 1.2
00:13:10billion people with
00:13:13good results that first time I was
00:13:16there. What do you think governments should do? Should they do like
00:13:20Australia, which prohibits social networks for minors under 13 years old? To
00:13:24governments, I would say two things. The first and most
00:13:27important is that this is a public health
00:13:30problem and the first thing that needs to be done,
00:13:33besides anything else, is to use the
00:13:37tools of asking young people through surveys
00:13:40what their experience with these networks is, at what
00:13:43age they are using them, what harms they are experiencing
00:13:47so that any change can be measured by
00:13:50results, not by efforts. A series of requirements
00:13:53should be put in place, whether it's
00:13:57security requirements that should be able to be
00:14:01independently verified, and if they are not
00:14:03willing to meet these requirements, they should be removed from young
00:14:07people. I mean, there's a world where I feel that what
00:14:10Australia is doing is incredibly valuable because at the end of the
00:14:13day, the worst hook these products have is that all
00:14:17your friends are there, and if only your friends were
00:14:21there, it would be fine, whatever happens when you're with your
00:14:24friends. But with that hook, they
00:14:27inject you with content from strangers, contact from
00:14:30strangers, terrible ideas,
00:14:34and children have to expose
00:14:37themselves to that to be there with their friends. While
00:14:41that has been the truth, well, if the age is raised, you remove the
00:14:44hook and there is an opportunity for new products that are
00:14:47designed for the well-being of young people. But
00:14:51if not, the tools that the government has, whether it's raising
00:14:55the age, changing the ways these products
00:14:59are designed, all that work should always be
00:15:02driven by
00:15:05is most lacking in the world right now. So there should be
00:15:09state controls. I believe there should be state controls, there
00:15:12should be state measures to know the harms that young people are experiencing
00:15:16in each state and that these data should
00:15:20guide how effective the changes the company is making
00:15:24and the changes the governments are requesting or the
00:15:27lawsuits are. Let's remember that for several weeks we have invited Meta,
00:15:30the parent company of Instagram and Facebook, to participate in today's program,
00:15:34but we did not receive a response. Previously, Meta has denied that its
00:15:38platforms harm minors and said that the agreement
00:15:41reached with the plaintiffs does not imply
00:15:47panic over a potential catastrophe caused by
00:15:51uncontrolled artificial intelligence. Is the end of the
00:15:54world coming or not? Don't
00:16:08There are not many places in the world that have
00:16:11the quality, the stability, and the size of opportunity that Latin America has in
00:16:15terms of doubling a business, of quintupling, or multiplying by
00:16:1810. Many people talk about Latin America as if Latin America were one country or one
00:16:22region, and in reality, Latin America is the combination of many, many countries, more than
00:16:2520, that have different cultures, different rules of the game,
00:16:29different infrastructure, a financial service that operates with different rules. So the ability
00:16:33to understand it, adapt it, deal with that volatility, I think, is a unique
00:16:37asset that
00:16:38Mercado Libre has.
00:16:42And the playbook for a CEO who wants to see Latin America has to be what
00:16:46I believe to be a CEO in Latin America you have to have flexibility,
00:16:50adaptability, a long-term vision, and think about what is right for users in
00:16:5310 years. Above all, you have to know how to take risks and adapt to contexts that are
00:16:57changing.
00:16:59cambiantes.
00:18:06Life was born in the sea. The ocean is the
00:18:10sustenance of our life. The
00:18:12oceans really generate more oxygen many times than
00:18:16the forests themselves. The important thing here in the Amazon is the
00:18:20water.
00:18:24These trees are going to harvest water, generating
00:18:27new rivers, generating
00:18:29lakes. This responsibility to take care of this simple
00:18:33home is
00:18:34everyone's.
00:18:37We live on a beautiful planet, we have to
00:18:40keep it alive. From any aspect of
00:18:44society, everyone has a voice to give and something to contribute,
00:18:48right? And we are all capable of taking small actions. We can no
00:18:52longer keep talking, talking, talking. It's time to
00:18:55act. Put on your superhero suit and start
00:18:58doing something
00:18:59today.
00:19:13In that setting of objectives and
00:19:16relationships, we must maintain
00:19:20everything that has been achieved. Let's not talk about other chapters such as
00:19:23equality between men and women, such as working
00:19:26conditions, such as the distribution of wealth, which is one
00:19:30of the problems that globalization has had. That is to say, well,
00:19:34you have to be thinking about a distribution of wealth
00:19:38that works and does not create
00:19:42the tension and we no longer have time for that of
00:19:45recent times is very, very based on
00:19:49that tension produced by the global economy.
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00:20:24My name is Jimena de la Quintana. I am a CNN correspondent in Peru.
00:20:27Peru has gone through several political and
00:20:30social crises. I have had to be in the streets covering each of them in recent
00:20:34years, and on several occasions people
00:20:38have surrounded us to hear what we were reporting, because as they
00:20:41say, they want to make sure that we report the truth. People don't
00:20:45trust, and although journalists are always exposed to criticism,
00:20:48our work, I believe, is increasingly scrutinized. We have a great
00:20:52responsibility.
00:20:58We are CNN, the world leader in news.
00:21:36The need to migrate knows no age. Many
00:21:40say they want to reach Mexico City, but others seek
00:21:43to go further
00:21:44north.
00:21:48The drone counter-battery of the Mexican army consists of this
00:21:52type of element of inhibitors to bring down drones
00:21:55that have become a threat. The
00:21:58Chiapas authorities have detected a cattle smuggling
00:22:01point. This is one of the illegal crossing
00:22:05points for cattle going from Central America to
00:22:08Mexico. Thousands of protesters, workers from this
00:22:14in the morning from the Angel of Independence. I am in
00:22:17the municipality of Teuchitlán in the state of Jalisco.
00:22:21Here the discovery was macabre by collectives
00:22:23of people searching for missing persons. What made you
00:22:27come here with the suspicion that your son might be on this
00:22:31ranch?
00:22:37Thank you for staying with
00:22:41us. Is the end of the world coming? The
00:22:45warnings from several executives of leading artificial intelligence
00:22:48companies that artificial intelligence can get out of control
00:22:52and end humanity, as you know, sparked a
00:22:56wave of panic around the world in recent
00:22:59weeks. These fears are not new, but they intensified in
00:23:02July when an experimental model from OpenAI, the
00:23:06parent company of ChatGPT, escaped its
00:23:09controls and hacked the technology company Hugging
00:23:13Face. OpenAI acknowledged the incident,
00:23:17said it would strengthen its security, but then
00:23:20the panic increased when an employee of
00:23:24Anthropic at that time, Jacob
00:23:26Cox, resigned his position,
00:23:30citing fears that the artificial intelligence industry is in a
00:23:33race towards super intelligence and that this
00:23:37could put or will put our lives at
00:23:40risk. And Cox said on social media
00:23:43that artificial intelligence, quote, could
00:23:47kill us all before the end of this
00:23:50decade. End quote. And a few days later, the
00:23:54CEO of Anthropic himself, Dario
00:23:56Amodei, published an essay where he partly shared
00:24:00these fears and proposed an agreement
00:24:03for leading companies in this artificial intelligence
00:24:07industry to slow down the development of artificial
00:24:11intelligence and submit to external auditors
00:24:14to verify the security of their models
00:24:17before launching them to the market. Since then, the
00:24:21topic has been on the front pages worldwide. Last week,
00:24:24during the sessions of the UN General Assembly, 22
00:24:28countries led by Finland signed a
00:24:31declaration demanding that artificial intelligence remain under
00:24:35human control and suggesting the creation of an
00:24:37international body to oversee it. But
00:24:41President Trump, in his speech to the UN General
00:24:44Assembly, said that all these apocalyptic fears are a
00:24:48farce. The United States will maintain its technological
00:24:52leadership and will not allow any global institution to place
00:24:56restrictions on it.
00:24:58Who is right? Some critics of Amodei's
00:25:01proposal and others to
00:25:04slow down the pace of artificial intelligence
00:25:07advance say that these companies are doing it in
00:25:11their own self-interest. They say that Anthropic and OpenAI,
00:25:14the two leading companies in artificial
00:25:17intelligence, are promoting global
00:25:21alarm in order to sign an agreement
00:25:24that freezes the race in its current state and
00:25:28closes the door to smaller competitors who
00:25:31are behind. And they also
00:25:35say that Anthropic and OpenAI are doing all this for public
00:25:38relations to increase their popularity at a time
00:25:41when they are preparing to go public and perhaps obtain a record
00:25:45of investments. But these arguments are not very
00:25:49convincing because, for example, Trump has
00:25:52political motives to oppose an agreement to slow down the
00:25:55pace of this technology's advancement, because a halt
00:25:58to this industry could crash the stock market,
00:26:02and that would be a severe blow to his presidency at a time when
00:26:06he is low in the polls precisely due to the
00:26:09economy. And as for the argument
00:26:12that the CEOs of Anthropic and
00:26:15OpenAI are only seeking to increase the value of their shares
00:26:19before going public, that doesn't
00:26:22convince me much either, because the truth is that both of them had already been making these
00:26:25warnings long before they were in their current
00:26:29companies and positions.
00:26:31So, I don't take their warnings
00:26:35about the dangers of unregulated
00:26:38artificial intelligence lightly. After all, we already regulate
00:26:42the airplane industry, the car industry, the
00:26:45to mention atomic energy. It's a bit ridiculous that a
00:26:49new model of an airplane or a car has to go through
00:26:53dozens of safety tests, but a
00:26:56new artificial intelligence model doesn't have to
00:26:59do so. My only reservation about
00:27:02all these warnings is that the
00:27:06debate about a possible extinction of is
00:27:10eclipsing another debate, equally
00:27:13or more necessary,
00:27:16the debate about the danger of artificial
00:27:19intelligence doing more and more things for us
00:27:23and, without us realizing it, gradually
00:27:27atrophying us. It's no joke,
00:27:30look, students are copying and pasting their school
00:27:34assignments from ChatGPT. They
00:27:37are not using their heads as much as before, and we, adults,
00:27:40increasingly let artificial intelligence
00:27:44platforms write our work memos, our emails,
00:27:48among many other things. When
00:27:51we drive our cars, we no longer think about where
00:27:55to go, but let the GPS guide us. There is a
00:27:59supermarket in Miami where the carts take you directly
00:28:02to where the milk and fruit are. We no longer have to use our heads for that.
00:28:06So my conclusion is that
00:28:09yes, we must take seriously the
00:28:12warnings about the dangers of artificial
00:28:16intelligence getting out of control,
00:28:18and we must put controls on it, just as we do with
00:28:22airplanes or cars or restaurants. But
00:28:26perhaps a more real and immediate danger that is already occurring in front
00:28:29of our eyes is the gradual loss of our
00:28:33ability to think. As others have
00:28:36already said, the most imminent
00:28:38danger is not the rapid advancement of artificial
00:28:42intelligence, but the rapid advancement of human
00:28:45stupidity. Well, I'll leave it there for today with that
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