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00:00:00We can also include Iraqi oil, perhaps, similarly,
00:00:03energy will be among the topics we discuss.
00:00:07Looking at it this way, perhaps in the later
00:00:10stages, Europe might also be on the agenda,
00:00:14and bilateral meetings will be held with some leaders.
00:00:18Let's mention these as well. What do you think
00:00:21about how we should interpret these diverse bilateral contacts within
00:00:34and discussions concerning Turkey
00:00:37are very important. Global discussions are very important.
00:00:41As you know, there is currently a crisis in the world, with serious
00:00:44problems in energy supply. The Strait of Hormuz is a very important topic here.
00:00:48Therefore, discussions related to this are
00:00:51also very important. Problems in logistics
00:00:54support need to be addressed. These will also be among the main topics.
00:00:57There are many issues awaiting resolution.
00:01:01There are many problems. All of these will be put on the table one by one. But perhaps the most important
00:01:04meeting will be the one between our President
00:01:08and Donald Trump, because Donald Trump is a key player
00:01:12in both the Russia-Ukraine war, the Iran war, in Palestine,
00:01:15and on many fronts. And our President
00:01:19is facing him as an interlocutor. Their cooperation,
00:01:22the decisions they will make, and the topics they discuss
00:01:26naturally affect not just two countries, but the world.
00:01:29This is a very important meeting. We need to state
00:01:32this first. Here, the issues you mentioned will also come up one by one.
00:01:36One of the topics that will be on the agenda is the Mediterranean. You touched upon a very important
00:01:40issue. As you know, there is
00:01:43a tension with Greece, an artificially created tension.
00:01:46Greece has unfair claims, and issues related
00:01:50to these will certainly come up. On the other hand,
00:01:53we see Israel building a network of its own. This network
00:01:57will also be on the agenda, stretching from the Mediterranean upwards. Israel is trying
00:02:00to be effective in the Balkans through the Greek actor and
00:02:04the Southern Cyprus actor, and it seriously
00:02:07threatens the security of the Mediterranean. This will
00:02:10also be on the agenda. On the other hand, last year during the Iran
00:02:14War, as a result of missiles falling on Turkey,
00:02:17we saw Patriots, additional Patriots, being deployed
00:02:21to Turkey. They were deployed to Adana and Malatya.
00:02:24Defense industry collaborations with Turkey will also be a very important
00:02:27item. Let's remember that when our President
00:02:31visited the United States, the issue brought up by Donald Trump
00:02:34was the desired delivery of F35s and
00:02:38serious efforts were made in this regard. This means that the United States
00:02:42also wants to overcome these issues. The world is
00:02:45evolving into a very different path
00:02:48globally, and Turkey is an important actor.
00:02:52Turkey-US relations are also very important. The United States wants to advance
00:02:56cooperation with Turkey in many areas. The most important
00:03:00example of this is actually Syria.
00:03:03In Syria, Turkey, together with the United States, achieved great
00:03:07success. Thanks to Turkey's success,
00:03:10today, Syrian territories are
00:03:13safe, and there is a seriously progressing government
00:03:16of Ahmed Shara as a state. This year, he will probably talk
00:03:20with the United Nations. He was also invited last year.
00:03:23Therefore, this was an important step for Turkey's own border
00:03:26security, regional security, and of course, global
00:03:30security. And the United States will continue to work with Turkey.
00:03:33Therefore, during this ongoing process,
00:03:37partnerships in many areas, including the defense industry, will be on the agenda.
00:03:40But again, one of the important points
00:03:43that needs to be emphasized is, of course, the Middle East. The Middle East
00:03:47now needs to achieve peace. We know
00:03:50that these wars tend to expand.
00:03:54We hope that important decisions will emerge from the United Nations
00:03:57this time. Or at least,
00:04:01the decisions made this time can be easily implemented.
00:04:04Let's broaden this wish a little more, hocam. But
00:04:08while discussing these, let's go to New York again. Let's connect with our colleague Ahmet Yılmaz
00:04:12again, because when a question was asked
00:04:15to President Erdoğan, Ahmet, you were there,
00:04:19you extended the microphone, you heard the question, you heard the answer.
00:04:22And naturally, you are in charge of the program. Let's hear
00:04:24from you.
00:04:30"As journalists waiting and following President Recep Tayyip
00:04:33Erdoğan in front of Türkevi, we also extended a question
00:04:37to President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan while conveying our welcoming
00:04:40wishes. This question was
00:04:43related to President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's United Nations contacts.
00:04:47President Erdoğan also gave his first message regarding his US visit
00:04:50from in front of Türkevi and stated that they would have
00:04:54a busy United Nations program.
00:04:57He also mentioned that their program was very busy.
00:05:01Let's talk about his arrival at this point.
00:05:03Now, as every year, President Erdoğan
00:05:07was greeted by a large number of Turkish citizens
00:05:10in front of Türkevi, who showed their love. Erdoğan
00:05:16also, as we showed on your screens, did not leave this love
00:05:20unrequited and actually stood by them
00:05:23for a long time. It was not
00:05:26just Turkish citizens living in the United States
00:05:29among them. Let's also mention that citizens
00:05:32from different countries, even from different continents,
00:05:36also greeted President Erdoğan. From 7 to 70,
00:05:39young and old, and even babies,
00:05:43were certainly present in the images.
00:05:46In this context, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan
00:05:49was met with considerable expressions of love
00:05:53by Turkish citizens. He just entered
00:05:56Türkevi. Today, President Erdoğan will rest;
00:06:00he will not have a program. Starting
00:06:03tomorrow, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan will begin his
00:06:06busy program within the scope of his US
00:06:09visit.
00:06:12I would like to remind you, as a side note, that
00:06:16within this year, President Erdoğan held bilateral meetings with Heads
00:06:20of State and Government from 68 different countries.
00:06:23He spearheaded a dizzying diplomatic traffic,
00:06:27conducting global diplomacy. The President will
00:06:30continue this diplomatic traffic within the framework of his visit
00:06:34to the United States this year. Türkevi, which we are in front of,
00:06:38was opened in 2021. Since the day it
00:06:41opened...
00:06:51President Erdoğan will also hold bilateral meetings with heads of state
00:06:54and government here this year, as he has for the past 5 years, at Türkevi.
00:06:58On September 22nd, all eyes will be on President
00:07:02Erdoğan's speech at the United Nations General Assembly.
00:07:06This will be the 16th time President Erdoğan has delivered
00:07:09a message from the United Nations podium
00:07:13to the world. From Israel's genocide in Gaza, to the US-Iran
00:07:17crisis, the Russia-Ukraine war, and problems
00:07:20in various geographies around the world,
00:07:23President Erdoğan does not hesitate to voice issues that
00:07:26many other leaders shy away from
00:07:30from the United Nations podium.
00:07:33We expect him to deliver a speech in this vein
00:07:37again this year. We expect President
00:07:39Erdoğan to reiterate the phrase "The world is bigger than five,"
00:07:43which he first used in 2010 to criticize the structure
00:07:47of the United Nations, in his speech
00:07:50at the United Nations again this year.
00:07:53President Erdoğan will deliver his speech at the United Nations General
00:07:57Assembly and hold meetings with leaders.
00:08:00In addition, he will meet with representatives of US think tanks
00:08:04and Turkish-American business people at Türkevi.
00:08:08Let's also note that he has programs outside
00:08:11of Türkevi. Furthermore, on Wednesday, President Erdoğan will also
00:08:15attend the United Nations Climate Summit, where he will
00:08:18deliver a speech. President Erdoğan's speech
00:08:22here will also be important, as Turkey will host
00:08:26the COP31 summit in November. We should mention
00:08:29that promotional visuals related to the Cop 31
00:08:33summit have been hung on the front
00:08:36facade of Türkevi. President Erdoğan has now
00:08:39gone to rest. Turkey will begin its programs here
00:08:43intensively starting tomorrow, I mean US
00:08:46time, starting tomorrow.
00:08:47"
00:09:44Hopefully, we will have a very
00:09:48full United Nations General Assembly.
00:09:50Your schedule is quite busy, sir.
00:09:54Quite busy.
00:09:57Take care.
00:10:00The President said our program is quite busy. Why
00:10:04did he say that? Because both President Erdoğan's program is busy
00:10:07and the United Nations General Assembly's own agenda
00:10:21the Iran war and the nuclear
00:10:25file are already standing there before the UN. The Houthis, the Red Sea,
00:10:29Bab-el-Mandeb are standing there. There's the Israel-Palestine issue.
00:10:32There's the war in Ukraine. There's the humanitarian crisis in Sudan.
00:10:36They will discuss global control of artificial intelligence,
00:10:39which is a surprising topic. They will discuss climate
00:10:42change, and President Erdoğan will also deliver a speech.
00:10:46And the future of the United Nations itself and
00:10:49the election of a new Secretary-General. When you look at it this way,
00:10:52and President Erdoğan also said our program is busy.
00:10:55How would you evaluate the 81st
00:10:57General Assembly?
00:11:01Now, the UN is facing its second biggest challenge
00:11:04in the last 30 years, since the Cold War.
00:11:07The first was during Kofi Annan's
00:11:10Secretary-Generalship, in the years immediately after
00:11:14the Cold War, with the Rwanda genocide, the Bosnia genocide, the Chechnya
00:11:18war, and so on, and the Kosovo War, it faced a very serious
00:11:21challenge. During this period,
00:11:25with the personal initiatives of UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan,
00:11:29the UN adopted important standards, such as the responsibility to protect
00:11:32and humanitarian intervention, which became fundamental
00:11:35values in the UN charter. Today, we are facing a similar
00:11:39situation. You briefly summarized it earlier: Bab-el-Mandeb, Hormuz, the Iran
00:11:42crisis, Israel's revisionist policies, the Russia-Ukraine
00:11:46war, and the escalating tension in the northern
00:11:48Black Sea, and the unexpected
00:11:52rise in Asia,
00:11:55the unstoppable rise. All these
00:11:59challenge the UN system. As you know,
00:12:01the UN is an institution established after World War II.
00:12:05There is a General Assembly and a Security Council.
00:12:08All of these are struggling to meet
00:12:11the needs of today's world.
00:12:15The main goal of the 81st
00:12:18General Assembly meeting
00:12:21was stated to be an international organization that produces
00:12:25results, meaning the UN. Therefore, there is a demand
00:12:28for reform. President has been expressing
00:12:32this for a long time. That is,
00:12:35with the motto "The world is bigger than five" on one hand, and
00:12:39"A fairer world is possible" on the other, he has been
00:12:43expressing this for a long time, perhaps as the leader
00:12:46with the highest profile on a global scale.
00:12:50However, global actors who benefit from
00:12:53the current situation do not prioritize
00:12:56the reform process at the UN.
00:12:59Now, I want to talk about a figure. Perhaps
00:13:03since the UN was founded, the chasm
00:13:06between the General Assembly and the Security Council
00:13:10has never been this wide. I want to make
00:13:13a definition. Whatever the General Assembly
00:13:17says yes to, the UN General
00:13:20Assembly, the Security Council says no to it.
00:13:23Whatever the Security Council says yes to, the General Assembly says no
00:13:27to it, mostly. Look, today, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas
00:13:30was unable to attend the UN General Assembly
00:13:34last year due to visa issues, and he couldn't come this year either.
00:13:37So Netanyahu spoke. Last year, he spoke
00:13:41at the UN General Assembly. Remember, all
00:13:44the members of the assembly applauded and protested by emptying
00:13:48the General Assembly. And Netanyahu spoke to empty
00:13:51seats. But the same Netanyahu
00:13:55was constantly protected
00:13:58by the five permanent members of the UN Security Council.
00:14:02The genocide he committed, the massacres he perpetrated,
00:14:05went unpunished in a way. While he should be tried at The Hague,
00:14:09today we hear him speak from the UN podium.
00:14:13Therefore, a reform process has been on the global
00:14:16agenda for a long time. President is a leader
00:14:20who expresses this at a very high level. At the same time, this is also very important:
00:14:23you mentioned earlier the election of a new Secretary-General.
00:14:27As you know, Guterres's term of office expires
00:14:30on December 31st. It is probable that a candidate
00:14:33from Latin America will be elected. There are some candidates
00:14:37whose names are being discussed. However, there is a distortion there.
00:14:41That is, no matter how many votes a candidate gets from the General Assembly,
00:14:44they have to get the "yes" votes of five permanent
00:14:48members. Yes, and from the UN Security Council,
00:14:51they have to get the votes of nine out of 15
00:14:55members. Therefore, there is such a distorted situation.
00:14:58President's visit is also important in this respect.
00:15:02I believe that Turkey, by asserting its weight in the UN,
00:15:05in the UN General Assembly, might not be able to assert
00:15:09its weight in the Council, but it can ensure
00:15:13that a candidate it supports moves forward. If you recall, in past years,
00:15:17Turkey became a temporary member of the UNSC.
00:15:20With the great support of the Islamic world, perhaps
00:15:24President will conduct such
00:16:03to the structure of the United Nations Security Council.
00:16:06I want to give the floor to Hocam Annan. Hocam,
00:16:10due to the veto power, even though decisions taken
00:16:14for members may seem binding, unfortunately, if members
00:16:17veto, no solution can be produced.
00:16:20When no solution is produced, no matter
00:16:24what crisis arises anywhere in the world,
00:16:27there is no solution. We can talk about this in the Ukraine-Russia
00:16:31War. We can talk about this for Gaza, Palestine.
00:16:34It doesn't matter, we might wake up tomorrow
00:16:37and a different problem might arise in another geography,
00:16:40and we might talk about the same issue for that too.
00:16:43In such a situation, while talking about a United Nations
00:16:47that is now trapped within its own system,
00:16:51how will the leaders of 130 countries come together
00:16:54and produce a solution
00:16:56with a single meeting?
00:16:58Unfortunately, we hope they do, but
00:17:02as you mentioned, Professor Nezmettin also touched
00:17:06upon the topic earlier. Will changing the president,
00:17:09changing the Secretary-General, change everything? What are the powers
00:17:13of the Secretary-General? Let's remember that when the Gaza war
00:17:16started, two important figures from the West visited
00:17:19both Palestine and Egypt,
00:17:23and made serious efforts to open the Rafah Crossing.
00:17:25These were Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez
00:17:29and the then Belgian Prime Minister Alexander De Croo,
00:17:33and of course, Guterres also went and met with the parties,
00:17:37but was any result obtained? No. We repeatedly see Guterres
00:17:40going to many places and condemning the genocide.
00:17:43He does the same for Lebanon, for many countries,
00:17:47for areas of conflict, but these only
00:17:50remain condemnations or saying the words that need to be said.
00:17:54Unfortunately.
00:17:57A situation arose in Gaza where the United Nations
00:18:00reached a point where it had to ask for help
00:18:04for itself. That is, even the United Nations
00:18:07came under attack by Israel.
00:18:11Officials were killed, unfortunately, they lost their lives.
00:18:15You touched upon a very important point. Aid tents
00:18:18were hit. A very, very big tragedy
00:18:22occurred there, involving United Nations officials. Therefore,
00:18:25we are talking about a United Nations that cannot protect
00:18:28itself, and this is a very serious, very big problem.
00:18:32Today, a very big organization is being held. The most important
00:18:35countries in the world, the world
00:18:45in general, are going there. Thousands of very important, but also very different topics, issues concerning children will be discussed,
00:18:49protecting them, human trafficking, organ trafficking, the fight
00:18:53against drugs, all these will be discussed. But unfortunately, they will only
00:18:56be discussed. Enormous funds are being collected, enormous
00:19:00organizations are being held, but unfortunately, how
00:19:03effective and how appropriate
00:19:08these are is a very big question mark. It needs to move beyond
00:19:11symbolism and become a functioning organization
00:19:15in a practical sense. However, this is very important.
00:19:19In 2014, when our President said "The world is bigger
00:19:23than five," he showed great courage. He said
00:19:27what couldn't be said. Today, yes, this is being discussed,
00:19:30but at that time, nobody was saying it. Now, at the point
00:19:33we have reached, will the United Nations really revise
00:19:37itself? Will it renew itself? Will it take
00:19:40another step forward? Again, as you mentioned, it's a very big
00:19:43question mark. I'm frankly not very
00:19:46optimistic about this, because power always wants
00:19:50to remain where it is. Those who hold power do not want to let go.
00:19:53The United Nations, especially the United States, will
00:19:57certainly not allow this. But we are
00:20:00at an important juncture. Now there's the United States,
00:20:04there's England. What's opposite them? China and Russia.
00:20:07When we look, China and Russia are behind Iran.
00:20:11Therefore, there is actually a disagreement at the top of the United Nations.
00:20:15If today's most important conflict zones are Russia, Ukraine, and the Iran-America-Israel
00:20:18axis, then there is no harmony among
00:20:22the five giants of the United Nations.
00:20:26In this disharmony, how much can world peace
00:20:29be brought to the agenda, or how much can it actively
00:20:32return to the field? It's a very big question mark.
00:20:36There are five giants. All five
00:20:39of them are actually confused, and they all have different
00:20:43vested interests. And ultimately, they need to get through
00:20:46this General Assembly process without interfering
00:20:50with each other. Hocam Necmettin, I want to turn to you now.
00:20:53Hocam Canan made a good reference earlier, saying they would
00:20:57talk about children. If I'm not mistaken,
00:21:00about 2 years ago, President Erdoğan took
00:21:04the podium at the United Nations General Assembly and said,
00:21:07"They are desexualizing our children."
00:21:10At that time, this wasn't discussed. The first to discuss it
00:21:13was again President Erdoğan. At that time, there were also
00:21:17LGBT campaigns.
00:21:20"But at least it wasn't discussed from the UN podium, but President
00:21:24Erdoğan brought it up under the name of desexualization,
00:21:26and after that,
00:21:30it became more discussed. It is expected that
00:21:33this will be brought to the agenda again
00:21:36at the UN General Assembly.
00:21:38What would you like to say about this?
00:21:41Now, as you know, Turkey has taken the initiative
00:21:44regarding the climate crisis. Under the leadership of Mrs. Emine
00:21:48Erdoğan,
00:21:53I want to say this in this context: Turkey's diplomatic
00:21:56vision is actually ahead of the global
00:22:00vision and has a position
00:22:03that determines it. You know there's a crisis
00:22:06in America regarding children, the Epstein crisis, which has been discussed
00:22:09for a long time, an island progressing through
00:22:13child abuse. Documents related to this
00:22:16are shaking US domestic politics, and at times, citizens of other
00:22:20countries and important names are mentioned
00:22:24in these reports. Therefore, President's vision in this regard
00:22:27is quite important. Today, on a global scale,
00:22:30we are facing a degradation of values. We all have
00:22:33children. This devaluation being attempted
00:22:37in children through social media or certain
00:22:40algorithms, this disharmonious
00:22:43attitude and behavior towards normative values,
00:22:46beliefs, customs, and traditional lifestyles,
00:22:50is now defined as a global security
00:22:53problem. This is also true for Turkey. Especially
00:22:56the protection of the minds of new
00:22:59generations is also a duty
00:23:03of the state. That is, states are responsible
00:23:07both at the national level and the international
00:23:10level for protecting the healthy development
00:23:14of children and for ensuring they have a healthy mental
00:23:17world. The spread of desexualization or certain
00:23:20perverse lifestyles and ways of thinking,
00:23:23as we define them,
00:23:27on a global scale over the past few years,
00:23:31somewhat through social media, is a very serious
00:23:34threat for all countries. It is also a threat for Turkey.
00:23:37The fact that this is being expressed from the UN
00:23:41podium by Turkey itself,
00:23:44when nobody else is talking, is quite important.
00:23:47I think this issue, just like the climate
00:23:51crisis, shows that Turkey has a mindset
00:23:55that guides global diplomacy, meaning it's ahead.
00:23:58I think it's a perspective that shows this. This is quite important.
00:24:02That is, perhaps countries like Turkey,
00:24:05sometimes we, and Hocam, certainly travel to Europe,
00:24:08and we visit. Turkey in a protected position, that is, our traditional
00:24:12values are more protected compared to the West. In some
00:24:16Northern European countries, for example, people's mothers are unknown, their fathers
00:24:20are unknown, meaning it's not known whose children they are. They grow up in very different
00:24:23environments and have
00:24:26very different tendencies. Despite this, Turkey's efforts
00:24:29to cleanse globally
00:24:32and protect new generations,
00:24:36by taking certain measures within the UN
00:24:39framework, meaning the UN defining this as a security threat
00:24:42and then forcing and
00:24:46encouraging countries, both under the UN umbrella and individually, to take
00:24:49measures is quite
00:24:53important for humanity and for Turkish foreign
00:24:56policy. I believe that in this
00:25:00regard, Turkey has a vision, a capacity,
00:25:03and a perspective to lead the world,
00:25:07just like in the climate issue. Sir, you said in your speech,
00:25:10"a global security problem." Ms. Canan,
00:25:13when talking about a global security problem,
00:25:17the United Nations will be addressing
00:25:20artificial intelligence for the first
00:25:23time as a global security file.
00:25:27That is, instead of asking how AI
00:25:30will change the economy, it will rather ask
00:25:34this question: what if systems too powerful
00:25:37to control emerge, how will states manage this?
00:25:41So, the United Nations now believes that a security
00:25:45policy should be developed regarding AI. What
00:25:48do you say? AI is also now
00:25:51being handled within the UN framework.
00:25:55Absolutely.
00:25:58Artificial intelligence has reached a very dangerous dimension. Along with this,
00:26:02robots have also reached a very dangerous dimension. Let's remember
00:26:06in recent months, in Iran,
00:26:08there were many discussions about an American naval robot
00:26:12landing on Iranian shores, and an exercise was conducted in relation to this.
00:26:15An unmanned naval vehicle, along with robots,
00:26:19could enter Iran, this was being talked about.
00:26:22What were we talking about until today? We were talking
00:26:25about a platform where the power of states was discussed in relation to the size of their armies.
00:26:29Now, with artificial intelligence, "you can
00:26:32deploy massive armies without human casualties
00:26:36and easily invade countries." On the other hand, another
00:26:40element being discussed is armament in space,
00:26:43placing weapons in space. That is, we always associated
00:26:47artificial intelligence with science,
00:26:51or with AI answering our questions. For example,
00:26:54a ministry was declared in Arnovultluk,
00:26:57related to artificial intelligence. We are talking about this,
00:27:01whereas there is a process moving to very different
00:27:03points. The creators of artificial intelligence
00:27:06are now saying, "Let's stop these works, it has reached
00:27:09a dangerous point, let's slow down this work." This has been
00:27:13discussed
00:27:16for the last week, it's an uncontrollable process. A few
00:27:19days ago, if I remember correctly, two days ago, a robot
00:27:22attacked its owner. I think it was
00:27:25in Japan. Look, we are just
00:27:28starting. We have begun to be a society that builds everything on artificial intelligence.
00:27:32I shouldn't say "we", globally this needs
00:27:35to be discussed. From our car, in our home,
00:27:39from our vacuum cleaner, everything, even our information, is controlled
00:27:42by artificial intelligence. When you write information that is not compatible
00:27:46with artificial intelligence, it doesn't accept it. For example, we work a lot,
00:27:50of course, we check theses, read and so on. We put in the information,
00:27:53sometimes it doesn't match. Especially when we enter information about Israeli
00:27:57policies, about the Israeli genocide, we can see
00:28:00information that is not true. Or, when we enter information
00:28:04about the Armenia-Azerbaijan War, the Karabakh invasion,
00:28:08the information is not exactly true or sometimes it can be manipulated.
00:28:11Therefore, if you ask, say, 10
00:28:14questions, there's no way all of them will be true. However, artificial
00:28:18intelligence has reached such a point that we have completely surrendered
00:28:22to it, and we have started to perceive artificial intelligence
00:28:25as an infallible element of justice, an infallible element of information,
00:28:28an element of comparison. Therefore, these are not true.
00:28:32It shouldn't be, and artificial intelligence is going to a very dangerous dimension.
00:28:36Serious measures need to be taken. Years ago, there were many discussions
00:28:40about artificial intelligence, including religious discussions,
00:28:43because the cloning of humans with artificial intelligence
00:28:46was on the agenda. Especially in the West, many academic articles were written
00:28:50on these topics and it was stopped, banned, and tests of this
00:28:53were conducted. What will artificial intelligence bring us in the future?
00:28:57What will we encounter? It's a serious
00:29:00question mark. However, those who control
00:29:03artificial intelligence actually need
00:29:06to be supervised. So who will supervise this? We said
00:29:09the United Nations. The five countries are already countries
00:29:12trying to globally dominate the world,
00:29:16countries trying to spread their imperial power.
00:29:19Let's be frank. You say these countries are at very high levels
00:29:23in terms of defense industry and artificial intelligence.
00:29:26So who will supervise them? Again, it comes
00:29:30down to the United Nations achieving a more just
00:29:34structure, reaching a more effective
00:29:37position. Can this be done in the United Nations? This is
00:29:40another big question mark. Unless the structure of the United Nations
00:29:44changes, as we mentioned earlier,
00:29:47simple topics will be discussed too much. Manipulative
00:29:51topics, which the professor touched on very well, gender
00:29:54policies are very important, our future is very important.
00:29:57Now, on one hand, efforts are being made to create non-human
00:30:00beings with artificial intelligence, and on the other hand, the human
00:30:04species is being restricted, restricted by homosexuality.
00:30:08Individualism policies, especially look, when you open the internet today,
00:30:11it says being single is very good, being an individual is very good, not getting married,
00:30:14that is, we are encountering a position that pushes society
00:30:17into complete solitude, and people's statements are generally
00:30:21like this: it's better to live alone, it's more comfortable economically.
00:30:25A hundred years ago, people had many children, or five children,
00:30:28five years ago, ten years ago, no. They operate in such a way,
00:30:32they operate with social media, they operate with gender
00:30:35policies, etc., etc. All of these actually need to be
00:30:39discussed one by one. However, unfortunately, the world
00:30:42is not yet completely bigger than 5. Therefore, we can say there is still
00:30:46much to talk about. Then, Professor Necmettin,
00:30:50let's open up the climate issue that we left half-finished,
00:30:54because there is a target, a 1.5 degree threshold.
00:30:58The basic reference is again the Paris Agreement. Every
00:31:01time countries meet, they refer to Paris
00:31:05and talk about this 1.5 degree threshold, but for some reason,
00:31:08this target can never be met. It will come up again,
00:31:12the UN will address the climate issue once more, but...
00:31:15I'm looking at this issue from a slightly different perspective,
00:31:19specifically through the lens of Cop 31 summit. Very soon, just
00:31:23a month and a half later, an important summit will take place in Antalya.
00:31:27World leaders will come, and actually, climate
00:31:30will be discussed in a broader scope in Turkey. But first,
00:31:34let's evaluate it within the UN context, if you like, and then we'll talk about
00:31:47an anxiety regarding artificial intelligence on a global scale. In our
00:31:51lessons, we teach our students a concept called
00:31:55international regimes. That is, in matters
00:31:58that they cannot manage and that concern other states,
00:32:02states establish an international regime, they set certain
00:32:06normative and technical standards, like the International
00:32:09Labor Organization or the International Civil
00:32:12Aviation Organization. Here, they determine certain
00:32:16criteria, and countries that sign these criteria act
00:32:19accordingly, and an international regime emerges, like
00:32:23the NPT, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. These regimes usually
00:32:26work, not 100% but relatively,
00:32:30they can achieve some success. Perhaps proposing an international
00:32:34regime for artificial intelligence within the UN framework
00:32:38could be quite functional. That is, all states would sign
00:32:41under conditions like "it will be used under these conditions, it will not go beyond this, its boundaries
00:32:45will be this." An international artificial intelligence regime
00:32:48could be established. Secondly, you mentioned
00:32:52the climate crisis. First, I would like to say that
00:32:55Turkey has long become a diplomatic center
00:32:59where global problems are discussed, like the Antalya Diplomacy Forum,
00:33:02the NATO summit, and the Cop31 summit
00:33:06you mentioned, which bring together world leaders
00:33:10and where certain issues are diplomatically negotiated.
00:33:13The "Turkey" brand has become a brand in this regard.
00:33:16Regarding the climate crisis, there is a
00:33:20point here that most of us know, but it's worth
00:33:23reminding. Now, globally,
00:33:26the countries with the highest carbon emissions are large
00:33:29economies, developed countries. You can call them G20
00:33:32or G7, G8,
00:33:35or OB7. These countries have large economies.
00:33:38For example, the United States has an economy of approximately
00:33:4230 trillion. There is an enormous carbon emission. If
00:33:46you talk about the climate crisis, then sacrifices will be needed
00:33:49from that luxurious lifestyle. Air conditioners will not be used,
00:33:52high-powered vehicles will not be used, and certain standards will emerge
00:33:55in industry and production. Therefore, these developed
00:33:59countries, which are actually the cause of this climate crisis,
00:34:03are reluctant to take responsibility when issues related
00:34:06to climate are discussed. If you remember, Donald Trump
00:34:10withdrew from the Kyoto Protocol in his first term,
00:34:13from climate agreements. And he argued that he didn't
00:34:17believe in it, that it was an unnecessary effort,
00:34:20because it touches their comfort zone. Now I ask, does Somalia
00:34:24have more carbon emissions, or Germany, Japan,
00:34:28or Turkey have more carbon emissions,
00:34:31or China, Russia, England,
00:34:34and America? Of course, larger economies, countries
00:34:38that produce higher added value, have larger carbon emissions.
00:34:42Therefore, the climate crisis is actually a crisis caused
00:34:45by the countries that are its cause. As long
00:34:49as these countries do not change their consumption, production,
00:34:53and lifestyles, it will be quite difficult to make progress in this area.
00:34:56However, Turkey has been pursuing a very proactive foreign
00:34:59policy in this area, just as in many areas of diplomacy
00:35:03or many areas of global issues in recent years. As you know, there is a project
00:35:07led by Ms. Emine Erdoğan in the zero-waste project,
00:35:10which has created a great global echo. From
00:35:14this perspective, the fact that Cop31 is being held in Antalya,
00:35:17Turkey, is very important. That is, in a way, Turkey
00:35:20has become a country that takes initiative
00:35:23in important items of the global agenda,
00:35:27such as armed conflicts, migration crises,
00:35:30the protection of new generations as we mentioned
00:35:33earlier, and the climate crisis.
00:35:37It follows a proactive foreign policy and develops
00:35:40a global standard, at least
00:35:43it can draw a line for global actors,
00:35:47and has reached a position
00:36:02will be discussed at the United Nations, if the climate
00:36:05issue will be discussed at the United Nations,
00:36:09why will this issue be brought up again at Cop 31?
00:36:12This might be thought. One and a half
00:36:15months later. Cop 31 is actually the main center
00:36:19where this will be negotiated, meaning the implementation phase,
00:36:22where the question "what have you done so far?" will be asked,
00:36:26where the issue will be discussed. The most important
00:36:29point is this. That's why we are taking this issue
00:36:33more seriously, and Turkey
00:36:34is a very good example in this regard.
00:36:38Now, look, the UN has many agendas. As
00:36:41you just stated, the climate crisis is one of them,
00:36:44issues related to gender are one of them, the dangers
00:36:48posed by artificial intelligence are one of them, and
00:36:51regional conflicts. Therefore, the UN is an umbrella
00:36:54organization. Perhaps in the future, a new
00:36:57structure will emerge related to artificial intelligence
00:37:01and related to this gender issue, that is, the protection
00:37:04of new generations from deviant tendencies, just like FAO,
00:37:08for example, like the food organization, or the International
00:37:12Energy Agency, like the International Atomic Energy Agency.
00:37:15Therefore, COP31 is indeed the center of this work,
00:37:18but it is very important that these issues are discussed
00:37:21at the UN, and that an initiative, an article,
00:37:25related to this is added to the UN charter,
00:37:28to the UN agreement. This will also expand
00:37:30the scope of Cop-31's activities
00:37:34and increase its global impact. Therefore, I value
00:37:38the discussion of these kinds of issues under
00:37:41the UN umbrella, because I want
00:37:44to make a presentation like this: Look, until the 1990s,
00:37:48there was no such thing as energy security. That is, when security
00:37:51was mentioned, it was military security, the survival of countries
00:37:55was a threat. But these were discussed at the UN, and it was said
00:37:58that energy is a security issue. In the UN meetings
00:38:01held in the early 2000s, strong references were made
00:38:04to energy security. States began to take certain measures
00:38:08and tried to set certain standards. Therefore, it is very
00:38:11important that issues related to gender, that is, issues
00:38:14related to LGBT, and the security problems
00:38:18caused by artificial intelligence, and issues like Cop31 or the climate
00:38:22crisis are discussed within the UN framework. I believe
00:38:25that all these topics will play a very important
00:38:28role in the President's speech.
00:38:32Yes, the messages he will give are valuable,
00:38:35but before that, there was a enthusiastic
00:38:38welcome for President Erdoğan, sir. We want to show
00:38:41it on screens once again. When he went to attend
00:38:45the 81st General Assembly of the United Nations,
00:38:48there were Turkish citizens who came to greet him, especially
00:38:52at the entrance of Türkevi, but there were also journalists.
00:38:56Standing.
00:39:28He said that he would have a full United Nations
00:39:31General Assembly program, because on many issues,
00:39:35President Erdoğan will have consecutive bilateral meetings
00:39:39with leaders, and he will also meet
00:39:42with business people. He will also have meetings with different
00:39:45communities,
00:39:49will be held by President Erdoğan. Ms. Canan,
00:39:52I'd like to turn to you at this point.
00:39:54All America meetings, all UN
00:39:58programs are actually prepared and organized this way,
00:40:01they develop more comprehensively, and President Erdoğan especially
00:40:05meets with investors and also delivers speeches
00:40:08emphasizing Turkey's strengthening
00:40:11economy. In the same way, he will meet
00:40:15with foreign investors. How do
00:40:17you find these meetings? How do
00:40:20you evaluate them?
00:40:23Yes, these are very important meetings. Two items need
00:40:27to be considered. The meetings he holds with investors. We know
00:40:30he met with Elon Musk in previous years, for example.
00:40:34Very important agreements are being made with important investors.
00:40:38This is very important for Turkey, very important for the Turkish
00:40:41economy. Turkey is in a position of a country that inspires
00:40:45confidence. Look, in the Middle East, or rather, let's say,
00:40:48Turkey, a transit country between East and West,
00:40:51is a very safe country in this axis. And again,
00:40:55Turkey's argument needs to be seriously
00:40:58defended. Therefore, as you know, there are various
00:41:02energy agreements, infrastructure agreements. These need to be brought
00:41:05to the agenda. Again, there is a reconstruction process
00:41:09in the Middle East. There are many agreements related to this process.
00:41:13Turkey will again play a key role here. Looking at Central Asia,
00:41:16we see that European Union countries and the West are especially
00:41:20turning to this geography. It's a process that won't happen
00:41:24without Turkey, because the roads pass through Turkey. And again,
00:41:28Turkey needs to be considered a safe haven here. Therefore,
00:41:31Turkey must be at the table and, of course, will express
00:41:35this by meeting with various investors. On the other
00:41:38hand, our President
00:42:02is still with us on air, ready.
00:42:05Professor, let's continue from where Professor Canan
00:42:08left off. We said
00:42:17that President Erdoğan will have a meeting with them. We also see
00:42:20that he will attend an event organized by Müsyat
00:42:24and the Council of Muslim Organizations in the USA. What do you
00:42:28say? How do you evaluate President Erdoğan's presence
00:42:31and speeches at such comprehensive and diverse
00:42:34events? I read a statistic,
00:42:37Ms. Rüya.
00:42:40The President has met with 68 heads
00:42:44of state and government in the last year,
00:42:47meaning the year is not yet complete.
00:42:50He has met with almost every head of government
00:42:54in the world, perhaps with repeated meetings.
00:42:57Therefore, these meetings to be held within the UN framework
00:43:01are also very important, meaning important for diplomacy
00:43:05between leaders. Especially the Türkevi there,
00:43:08if I may say so, has turned into
00:43:11a meeting area where many heads of state
00:43:14and government, and from time to time important figures from the business world,
00:43:18meet. Here, we need to pay
00:43:21attention to this: the world is experiencing deep crises
00:43:25in global transportation, communication, and logistics
00:43:28lines, such as the Strait of Hormuz, Bab-el-Mandeb, and the north
00:43:32of the Black Sea due to the Russia-Ukraine war. The world is experiencing
00:43:36an energy crisis. At the same time, it is experiencing
00:43:40a transportation crisis. Turkey, as
00:43:43a middle corridor country, is a communication
00:43:46center that inspires confidence. Therefore, Turkey's
00:43:49vision will come to the forefront in the meetings
00:43:53to be held with the business world. As you know,
00:43:56recently, we are trying to open a way to global
00:43:59markets from the Persian Gulf with the Development
00:44:03Road project. Important steps have been taken
00:44:06and investments have been made in this regard. The project
00:44:10continues at full speed. A railway,
00:44:13highway, and an energy
00:44:16line are being
00:44:18built from Iraq to Turkey,
00:44:22and from there to the Mediterranean and other areas.
00:44:26On the other hand, we are also on an alternative
00:44:29route that will transport the products of countries
00:44:32like Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Iraq
00:44:35to global markets via the Hejaz Railway,
00:44:39which was built in the past, before World War I.
00:44:43As you know, Turkey's economic size is also
00:44:45significantly increasing. That is, there is a parallelism
00:44:49between a country's diplomatic power and its economic
00:44:52power on a global scale. The stronger your economy,
00:44:56the more your word is heard, unfortunately. We are a country
00:44:59with a national income approaching 2 trillion
00:45:02dollars. Yes, we have some economic problems
00:45:06domestically, but we are one of the countries with a growing
00:45:10economy. We have an inflation combat program. Despite this,
00:45:13when compared to countries in the same league
00:45:16globally, we are not doing badly at all. Therefore,
00:45:19meeting with these actors is very important. As you
00:45:23know, in recent years, Turkey has become an attractive investment
00:45:26area for the Arab world, especially the Gulf countries.
00:45:29With the Mecca Agreement, we witnessed some Gulf
00:45:33countries directing their investments to Turkey. This is also because
00:45:36of the Russia-Ukraine war. Similar problems
00:45:40are experienced in Europe. Turkey is a safe haven,
00:45:43an indispensable country in terms of investments,
00:45:47employment, logistics,
00:45:50and energy security. Today, the regions
00:45:53where global energy is produced or where reserves are located,
00:45:57both the Caucasus region with natural gas and oil,
00:46:00and the Middle East region with natural gas and oil,
00:46:03host global reserves. Turkey
00:46:07is the most reliable, most reputable
00:46:10energy route between East and West.
00:46:12From this perspective, these diplomatic activities
00:46:16conducted globally will be important
00:46:20in attracting more investments to our country. At the same
00:46:23time, they will contribute to the reputation of our companies
00:46:26on a global scale, enable them to make investments
00:46:30there, and lead to profitable and good agreements,
00:46:32I believe. We also need
00:46:34to add this, Ms. Rüya. As
00:46:38you know, the world is facing an energy crisis. That is,
00:46:42Iraq has the world's energy, Kuwait has tons of energy, Qatar has tons of energy,
00:46:46but it cannot be delivered to global markets,
00:46:49and oil prices are rising to 105, 110 dollars.
00:46:53In fact, yesterday or the day before, a news report came out that some
00:46:57airlines on the West Coast of America have stopped
00:47:00their operations because jet fuel is no longer available
00:47:04in some regions. Turkey is an island of stability
00:47:07in the midst of this entire an important actor.
00:47:11As you know, there is an organization called the International Energy Agency, and its
00:47:14head is a Turk, Mr. Fatih Birol. Yes, he is
00:47:18a very popular figure. In this sense, Turkey is diplomatically
00:47:21one of them, yes.
00:47:24We also follow him with great interest as experts working on energy security.
00:47:28In this sense, Turkey will make very important contributions
00:47:32to Europe's energy security, and I think these
00:47:36talks will take place in this vein.
00:47:39Since you mentioned it, I am saying now that you
00:47:43mentioned Kuwait and you mentioned Iraq,
00:47:45the leaders of both countries
00:47:48are expected to meet in President Erdoğan's draft
00:47:52program. Therefore,
00:47:56it seems that energy will be one of President Erdoğan's
00:47:59main agenda items.
00:48:02This is one side of the issue, the other
00:48:06side concerns Europe.
00:48:15a news report that Europe is entering
00:48:18winter with its
00:48:21worst stock in 20 years. However,
00:48:24there is also gas that they do not want to buy from Russia
00:48:28due to ongoing relations with Russia. But
00:48:32on the other hand, things got complicated in Hormuz, and it is
00:48:36not only valid for Hormuz. The Houthis in
00:48:40Yemen are also holding Bab al-Mandeb, and everything can change there.
00:48:43The energy crisis can worsen every day, but
00:48:47Turkey signed a very important agreement very recently.
00:48:51When all these happened, look at President Erdoğan's meeting
00:48:54schedule. It seems that he will manage two important
00:48:58energy traffics in two different countries within just two days.
00:49:01How would you evaluate each
00:49:04of these moves
00:49:06one after another?
00:49:09Yes, it is very important. As Necmettin Hodja
00:49:12also stated, Turkey is now a very important, very safe
00:49:15harbor. From now on, the arrows point to Turkey. Where can we
00:49:19go after Turkey? Of course, we can mention Algeria. Europe has
00:49:23turned to Algeria seriously, but Algeria's policies are very strict.
00:49:27Therefore, you cannot cooperate with Algeria and Israel.
00:49:30Turkey is very important for Europe. In the past years, it was
00:49:33always talked about that one day the European Union will come to Turkey's
00:49:37door and ask to cooperate with us. Today, when we talk about defense
00:49:41industry, we see Turkey. When we talk about energy, safe routes,
00:49:44peace agreements, soft power, we see Turkey. Therefore,
00:49:48Turkey is a very safe haven and a very important
00:49:52ally of Middle Eastern countries. The agreement we
00:49:55mentioned earlier regarding the transfer
00:49:58of Iraqi oil to the West was also a project
00:50:02carried out under Turkey's leadership. However, this is not
00:50:06limited to Iraq. We have Syria in front of us, and especially
00:50:09Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, with whom we are in an alliance
00:50:13with Mecca, will also work with
00:50:16Turkey in energy supply. Kuwait will also come
00:50:19through Iraq and Kuwait.
00:50:23The pipelines will probably
00:50:39you exist as much as you express yourself. Therefore, now, President
00:50:42Erdoğan's meeting with think tanks in the United
00:50:46States and with various
00:50:48NGOs is very important for Turkey to explain
00:50:52its thesis to the world. As you know, there is an Armenian
00:50:56lobby working against Turkey. As you know, there is a Greek lobby
00:50:59working against Turkey, and an Israeli lobby. And there are many
00:51:03lobbies connected with these networks. Especially, as you know,
00:51:07there are manipulations of Greece regarding the Aegean Islands.
00:51:10There is a process where Israel, instead of
00:51:14abandoning its invasive policy, brings Turkey to the agenda
00:51:17with many accusations. Therefore, his meeting
00:51:21with think tanks, the head of our state
00:51:24defending Turkey's thesis with his own words,
00:51:28is very important. Therefore, these investments are very important,
00:51:31peace talks are very important, but they are as important as
00:51:35these. The meeting of our President with think tanks. The world
00:51:38is aware of Turkey's soft power, of its strength,
00:51:42but this also needs to be expressed on different
00:51:45platforms. Therefore, these meetings are of great importance. On the
00:51:49other hand, we know about Greece's manipulations. Greece, which
00:51:53is an ally with European Union countries, is also expanding
00:51:57the European Union's borders while trying to expand its own borders.
00:52:00Therefore, in every problem, it goes to the European Union and
00:52:04gets support from the European Union. Why? Because Greece's new expansion actually
00:52:08means the expansion of the European Union, and keeping Turkey outside
00:52:11the European Union means a process that is progressing in a perspective
00:52:15desired by Greece and Israel. Therefore, Turkey will stand
00:52:19against this. So, we talked about energy. What did Greece
00:52:22say about the United States recently, and this was also
00:52:26widely discussed in the European Union? Greece said, "I want to continue
00:52:29trading oil and natural gas with Russia."
00:52:33We can no longer turn this into energy.
00:52:36Okay, what have we been talking about for the past couple of
00:52:40days in the media? The United States will increase
00:52:43taxes by 100% on countries that trade with Russia and
00:52:46Iran. As you know, it had already increased them many times before.
00:52:50Very serious sanctions are coming. This means that the crisis
00:52:54is getting out of hand. Look, you are fighting a country,
00:52:57and you are a NATO member, and you are a European Union member.
00:53:01On one hand, you are announcing a support package for Ukraine.
00:53:05As you know, NATO met in Turkey in July, and what came
00:53:09out of the meeting? 70 billion dollars of aid will be given
00:53:12to Ukraine, and at least 70 billion dollars
00:53:15of aid will continue in the coming years. And many arms agreements were
00:53:19made. Despite this, you are giving money there, but you say
00:53:22that you should continue trading with Russia. The European Union is
00:53:26experiencing a very serious, very big crisis, and it
00:53:35the point we have reached? Turkey will again be a country that the
00:53:39EU will want to be an ally with. There will come a time when
00:53:43they will knock on our door and ask us to work with them. Let's
00:53:46see how we will respond. Both in defense industry, energy,
00:53:50corridors, and the agreement between the West and the East,
00:53:53all roads intersect with Turkey. Therefore, we can actually
00:53:56say that there are many theses to be discussed.
00:54:00You have concluded at a good point, Necmettin Hodja. I have
00:54:03very little time, just a few minutes. If you wish, I would like to
00:54:07hear your evaluation on this
00:54:11topic as well. Now,
00:54:14we must accept that Turkey has had a rising
00:54:17profile in international politics for the past 10-15 years.
00:54:21This is due to the individual efforts and leadership of our President,
00:54:24the growth of the Turkish economy, the progress made
00:54:27in the defense industry, and our focus on qualified human
00:54:31resources in this field. In addition,
00:54:34despite the wars and instabilities that have emerged in our
00:54:37neighboring geography, both to our south and north,
00:54:41Turkey remains a stable island in its own
00:54:45territory and is securely located.
00:54:48Furthermore, with policies that go beyond this, such as a
00:54:52terror-free zone, right? We have now become a country
00:54:55that fights terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria.
00:54:59This increases Turkey's regional power. As Canan Hodja
00:55:03just said, Turkey is critical for the security of the European
00:55:07Union. The Mecca Agreement has just been signed, and the ink
00:55:10is barely dry, so to speak. Countries like Saudi Arabia and
00:55:14Pakistan wanted to solve their security problems through Turkey
00:55:17by forming an alliance with Turkey, or to create a common collective
00:55:21security structure. This was a conscious choice, an expression
00:55:24of trust in Turkey, respect for Turkey,
00:55:27and trust in Turkey's defense industry, diplomacy, and economy.
00:55:30Therefore, I believe that Turkey's rising
00:55:33profile will continue with this momentum, and I also
00:55:37hope for it. I hope that my country will develop,
00:55:41be safe, and hold a respected position on a global scale.
00:55:44I believe that President Erdoğan's
00:55:47contacts will also contribute to this.
01:00:47Of course, our first topic will be the United
01:00:51President Recep Tayyip
01:00:55Erdoğan arrived in New York, where
01:00:59an hour and a quarter ago.