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00:00:33of Coming up on this
00:00:36week's review of round table: Spain's mass
00:00:40surge of migrants
00:00:42of into thelter sparks
00:00:43a diplomatic routh. In Hungary,
00:00:47Peter sets about dismanthling Victor Orban system, but
00:00:51is he going too far? The EU gets the
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00:00:56of Trump proof the euro with its own digital currency.
00:01:00and how the AI race could be impacting the climate we
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00:01:21hello and welcome to the review of round table, I'm
00:01:25of Rihanna of Jones. European border security is under
00:01:28a scrutiny after more than 60... thousand migrants swam and
00:01:31climbed their way into thelter, the Spanish enclave on the Moroccan
00:01:35coast. Spanish authorities say all but
00:01:382,000 have been returned to Morocco, but EU
00:01:42authorities have called on Spain
00:01:44a to strengthen its
00:01:45of borders. of Spanish prime minister Pedro Sanchez has accused
00:01:49traffickers of causing the crisis, which left 78
00:01:53people dead. You've argued that the EU migration
00:01:56pact, it creates incentives for. illegal
00:02:00migration,
00:02:01of so what should Europe be doing differently and in
00:02:06of particular looking at Hungary as an example of of
00:02:09Europe's or one of Europe's
00:02:11of tougher borders? well, the
00:02:15of government Pedroes has done the same mistake as the European Union
00:02:19has in terms of being very weak on
00:02:21of border protection against illegal immigration. just to put this into
00:02:25context, this
00:02:26a crisis, the last couple of months in Spain have been..."
00:02:30about the question of legalizing hundreds of thousands
00:02:33in Spain uh and basically
00:02:37granting them a regular status, although they entered
00:02:40illegally. if then there's another piece of news
00:02:44and we've discussed this already that some people,
00:02:48it was circulating in networks or maybe even in
00:02:52a media that people who enterta illegally will be
00:02:55allowed to stay, well that is fueled by the months and
00:03:00months uh previously where the Spanish
00:03:03government has moved forward on legalizing hundreds of thousands
00:03:07of illegals, so
00:03:08of obviously there's a pull factor created by politics,
00:03:12created by the socialist government in Spain and also created with what you
00:03:16mentioned, the EU migration pact, because
00:03:18what is the EU migration pact about? It's about distributing
00:03:22the
00:03:23in burden of illegal immigration across Europe to all
00:03:26countries, and without stopping illegal.
00:03:30in entry, that should be the first priority
00:03:32of the European Union, that was the first priority of our government in
00:03:36Hungary since the 2015 migration
00:03:39of crisis and it was successful one, you
00:03:43can stop illegal immigrants at the
00:03:46borders, of course there's a lot of
00:03:49pressure from media, there's a lot of pressure from
00:03:53NGOs and there was
00:03:54of a lot of pressure on Hungary from the European Commission, just to remind the
00:03:58viewers, we were find one.
00:03:59million euros per day, plus a sum of 200 million
00:04:04of euros, to change our laws and to allow illegal immigrants to enter
00:04:08the territory of Hungary and therefore the Shengen
00:04:11zone, and do asylum procedures
00:04:15for illegals who are already in
00:04:17the EU, then usually disappear,
00:04:20of so this is very bad, there is very bad
00:04:2410 years looking back in terms of European migration policy and
00:04:28water protection, and what has
00:04:30of we have
00:04:30of witnessed in Spain in the last couple of months now, is a
00:04:34turbo boosting of this very bad policy and
00:04:38basically giving out
00:04:40of a free blank check to legal immigrants, you're telling them, well
00:04:44you're here illegally, we'll just legalize you,
00:04:47of what should people think who were contemplating on entering the
00:04:51EU illegally, if not that this is the
00:04:54of moment to go, on that look,
00:04:56Pablo Andres mentioned that the suspended Shengen range.
00:05:01backed by Finland and Denmark, that was by Italy, what's
00:05:05your opinion
00:05:06on that? thoughts that was it
00:05:09justified? not at all, mean at
00:05:11the end
00:05:11of the day. area was not in any danger right, the still a and
00:05:15Zeuta has very specific arrangement with the rest of continental europe as
00:05:19it were, and they have to be border controls and there are passport controls going from
00:05:23Thelta to to continental spain as it were right, so
00:05:26not a single mangrad made it to the Shengen area, I don't see,
00:05:29I don't remember, I haven't recall or haven't seen anybody from this particular world of migrants
00:05:33appearing at the borders of Hungary or any other European country, the
00:05:37vast majority them went back and turned back and return to Morocco, yes
00:05:41this shouldn't have happened. was it's a very bad look right, it's a terrible
00:05:44look, and there may be an argument to be made about
00:05:48this has been partially influenced by the recent legalization or
00:05:52regularization of migrants in Spain from Pedro Sanchez, and we'll find out
00:05:56about that more. the regularization of
00:06:00of of migrants that just happened in April in Spain was primarily aimed at
00:06:04Latin American, particularly Colombian, uh, Venezuela,
00:06:07Ecuadorians, some Mexicans, Argentinians, lot more migration from Latin America,
00:06:11there were of course some... people from northern Africa as well right, but it's a different
00:06:15different phenomena and most migrants that come through Europe from Spain
00:06:19do not do it through the enclave theuta because I still have to go through
00:06:23the sea all the way to continental spain and it's a lot harder to do so,
00:06:26so
00:06:27it is not a great look, it's terrible, but I think i'll be very careful with the language as well,
00:06:31how we portray this as well, this was not an invasion, the schengen area was
00:06:35not under threat, it was terrible event, and let's not forget as
00:06:39well the human cost of this crisis, because at least 70 people los
00:06:42lives in something that was completely avoidable, right? so I think we have to be
00:06:46careful with how we portray this, how we paint this? yeah, absolutely. I mean, Pablo said it
00:06:50there, Zoe, let's not forget about the more than 50 people that
00:06:54reportedly dead as result of of
00:06:57this, has the political debate here
00:07:01in your view overshadowed the the humanitarian
00:07:05tragedy that we saw? yeah, I think I think
00:07:08that's probably fair to say, the focus has been on the politics.
00:07:13um rather than the lives lost, we know that the people in
00:07:17thouta, although many them have shown some
00:07:20solidarity with the people who are still there, the the migrants, many them are
00:07:24minors, so that procedure for repatriation is a bit more
00:07:28complex, they have shown solidarity, the authorities they
00:07:32have taken the most the necessary humanitarian
00:07:35steps, i think there's a sort of a divided
00:07:39feeling between compassion and concern for those individuals who
00:07:43arrived on the beach uh with with literally just the clothes on
00:07:47their back uh versus the massive numbers that that it
00:07:51flooded in um as we know the population of thot is around
00:07:558000 so it was almost the same number of migrants who
00:07:58arrived on on the shores so this obviously
00:08:01caused caused people to sort of retreat into their homes close
00:08:05up shops etc. so i think there is there is this rather
00:08:09awkward confrontation that people having to face here in Spain
00:08:13themselves, how to what extent do we show our
00:08:17concern and our compassion for those in in the position
00:08:21the migrants versus our sense of
00:08:24security and our sense of sort of
00:08:28secured borders, so yeah, I think it's a very, it's a very
00:08:31difficult difficult one for for many people here in
00:08:34Spain.
00:08:39In April, Peterted Victor Orban become Hungarian Prime
00:08:43Minister following a 16-year reign, Majar has vowed to
00:08:47dismantle what he calls the corrupt and illiberal system
00:08:51established under Orban. He's in the process of removing
00:08:54key officials and launching corruption probes into the former prime
00:08:58ministers in a circle. Some are hailing the new government for
00:09:02cleaning up Hungarian politics, while critics are calling it a
00:09:06destruction the rule of law. Hungary, let's not forget,
00:09:10has billions of euros in frozen. EU funds
00:09:14at stake here, so to what extent is the
00:09:17pace of Majar's reforms being driven by this August
00:09:21deadline here? Well, the thing
00:09:25is, um, I would uh, I would say that
00:09:28the, I wouldn't use the word reforms uh, that you have
00:09:32used earlier, um, this is, this is
00:09:35retribution, and
00:09:36this is a government is is a government of avengers, um,
00:09:40the Peter is using the, dismantling
00:09:43the what he calls the urban regime as
00:09:47smoke screen to actually destroy the entire
00:09:50Hungarian conservative national network and and
00:09:54sphere and this is exactly what is expected of
00:09:57him to do
00:09:59and what is what is happening
00:10:03with
00:10:03the with what you asking about the speed of the reforms
00:10:07um we all wanted reforms and and I
00:10:11think um this was Victor Orban's mistake that he didn't listen
00:10:15to the independent Hungarian Conservative
00:10:18network that was asking for reform and
00:10:21there was a bubble around Fedes, but what we got is is... is
00:10:25basically the destruction the rule of law in Hungary and
00:10:29the neostalinist cult of personality against
00:10:33around Peter, this is this is not reform and it should not
00:10:37be should not be called that, and all these
00:10:40comparisons, well this is exactly what
00:10:42what Victor Orban did earlier for
00:10:4616 years, I don't think they stand the the
00:10:50test of reality, we did not have political prisoners as we
00:10:54do. "the offices and and the servers
00:10:58the opposition party have not been raided by Victor
00:11:02Orban, the president was not forced
00:11:05out, etc., etc., so these comparisons of of
00:11:09any sort of existing parallels are are limping in my
00:11:12view. Gerge, Daniel there, calling it
00:11:16retribution, Mark calling it normal
00:11:19politics, where's the line
00:11:23between transitional justice..." and political
00:11:25revenge? it's hard to say really because
00:11:29um obviously retribution or writing the wrongs
00:11:33the unsian regime was one the major things that the
00:11:37electorate has requested, and well the
00:11:40hungarian public is used to this majoritarian politics partly because
00:11:44of what the orban regime has done that basically whatever the majority be
00:11:48the majority of orders or the majority in parliament requires will
00:11:52happen regardless of whether that violates. any
00:11:55principle of rule of law, european standards or so and so on,
00:11:59but this has been a Hungarian staple in
00:12:03politics since the 90s. Hungary is the only country
00:12:06in the region that didn't have that hasn't had snap elections since
00:12:091990, every government in some way shape or
00:12:12form was there for four years, they were elected for four years, the
00:12:16parliament remained in place for four years, which is unusual in European politics,
00:12:20European politics is usually about lot of coalition disputes, lot of
00:12:24governments just dissolved. being early elections being called, Hungary
00:12:27has not been subject to that, the Hungarian public is used to having a
00:12:31stable majority and whatever the majority says pretty much goes.
00:12:35Mark, regular transition or not, recent polling does
00:12:39suggest that Teaser remains comfortably ahead,
00:12:43but support has slipped, so are you surprised
00:12:46that the government has has seen a drop in support so
00:12:49soon? not
00:12:51especially, once
00:12:55governments actually move implementing the
00:12:58promises uh that they make, and this applies not just to Hungary, but
00:13:02really anywhere you have democratic
00:13:03system, the people
00:13:07in the populist will be, not as
00:13:10happy, they the promises and the way that they're kept, the
00:13:14concrete programmatic implementations
00:13:18will disappoint some people, and so you have people who express their
00:13:22disappointment by responding to... polls and pull numbers
00:13:26drop uh, the question i think
00:13:29for petyard will be to pay attention to how low his pull
00:13:33numbers go um and how and
00:13:37to you do course corrections uh if in fact it seems
00:13:41like uh the way that he's implementing these
00:13:44policies are is impacting negatively his
00:13:47popularity in Hungary as a whole and so far there
00:13:51hasn't really been a lot of uh to move the needle uh a
00:13:55a strongly negative direction, it's it seems to me like it's
00:13:59just some people who are
00:14:01you know not exactly happy with the way that certain policies
00:14:05have been implemented and uh and that's for petdad
00:14:08to to address if it becomes serious
00:14:11problem.
00:14:16the European Union is set to adopt a new digital euro an
00:14:20effort to advance the continent's financial independence in
00:14:24technology. Almost two-thirds of card payments in the
00:14:27euro zone are handled by non-European companies.
00:14:31Lawmakers argue payment systems are instrument of power
00:14:35and the moves been framed as an effort to regain European
00:14:38independence from American payment systems. Why are
00:14:42they doing this? Well, I think the context the last few years is that
00:14:46we've had separate developments in the crypto world and blockchain
00:14:50technologies uh, which central banks want to stay top
00:14:53of, and also on the other hand we have the... use of cash, so the original
00:14:57rational, and why
00:14:58the ECB started looking into central bank digital currency, by
00:15:01the way, not the only central bank, in fact most central banks are looking into some form
00:15:05their own digital currency is to preserve sort of
00:15:08stable, secure access to digital form of cash for for
00:15:12people when cash sort of is a secular decline,
00:15:16over time, this started in 2020, and then over time with the new Trump
00:15:19administration, the the argument that's gained prominence is more about European
00:15:23sovereignty, monetary sovereignty. without cutting our reliance, if
00:15:27you will, on American payment providers, which we rely on so
00:15:30heavily, but that's really something that's sort of been added on later on, the
00:15:34initial context comes from really
00:15:36the technological. development that happen in the world as well as there's
00:15:40declining use of cash and it really started off as a small sort of
00:15:43technical working group at the ECB that's kind of gained the life of
00:15:47its own
00:15:48and and continued as as it often does. Cedric, to
00:15:51you, is that the primary motivation here that there's a huge
00:15:55reliance in Europe on American payment platforms like
00:15:59visa, mastercard and paypal,
00:16:03and the EU basically wants to have their own
00:16:05version. Yeah, of course it's a
00:16:08motivation, yeah, even if this
00:16:12dominance of visa and mastercard and all the system
00:16:15is is quite different from the different
00:16:18countries in the eurozone, for example,
00:16:22in France, we we have our own banking card system
00:16:26called CB, so we are much more independent,
00:16:30but on the northern country of Europe,
00:16:32the they heavily rely on the visa in mastercard, so yeah, it's a
00:16:35legitimate motivation. but in my opinion
00:16:39it's not the digital era is not necessarily
00:16:42the the best solution to achieve better sovereignty but we will talk
00:16:46about that thank you oliver to you
00:16:49so the EU
00:16:50wants financial resilience it strikes me that they're a little bit
00:16:54late to this digital party that's going on lot of others have made big
00:16:58strides well I don't think that's
00:17:01really an argument because she can say better late than never now
00:17:05different question if if if "this is the right solution,
00:17:09um, but where we stand now we have that the European parliament voted
00:17:13overwhelmingly in favor to start negotiations with the member
00:17:17states on how we could shape this digital euro, so that's where we
00:17:20are, and tell me, you're quite optimistic about
00:17:24this,
00:17:27well, optimistic, I'm not sure if I'm optimistic, I'm just
00:17:31describing the situation as it is, the European parliament
00:17:35wants to have it, the member states now have..." to agree to it,
00:17:39and even then, if we will have it in terms of legal
00:17:43foundation, still the European Central Bank needs to first start kind of a
00:17:46model, and then it can be introduced only later, I understand
00:17:501929, and you at the end the day, the citizens, the
00:17:54consumers decide if they like the digital euro or if they like any other
00:17:58forms of payment or whatever we have, and mind
00:18:01you, the world moves very fast, in 29,
00:18:05maybe everything looks different. Thank you, Daniel, how
00:18:09popular will this be, because I can't remember the last time I actually had cash and
00:18:13coins in my hands. Well, that is the big question, but it's important to know that the
00:18:17ECB or when it's rolled out, there
00:18:19there will be different mechanisms that potentially can be uh used to
00:18:22incentivize or even force uh people to use the digital euro
00:18:26uh, for example, what if government transfers, if you're recipient of
00:18:30it uh are only paid in in this into your digital euro
00:18:33wallet, or if some form of payment can only be conducted in this. That's
00:18:37that's the uncertainty, but we can look at the example of China, which is already rolled out, it's digital
00:18:41Uan, and it's actually the the use has has grown very very
00:18:45fast, and part of that is because consumers and
00:18:49businesses are nudged or kind of forced to to use
00:18:52it through sort of concrete limits on their action of what they can do, or
00:18:56even expiry of imagine you get you some payment into your wallet, but it expires
00:19:00a few days, you need to spend it, so that's a way to nudge economic
00:19:04agents towards state objectives if you will, and tell me is
00:19:08there any concern about the the age and the demographics involved here that you
00:19:12know young people will jump on board with this, they'll handle the technology, they'll have a digital
00:19:16wallet, but say pensioners, older people, vulnerable people, people
00:19:20who aren't texavy, got any concerns about them? well, that's different
00:19:23rationals for why these digital currencies are are rolled out or central bank
00:19:27currencies, there's an example in the bahamas where it's a it's
00:19:30a set of remote islands that are prone to natural disasters where a lot of
00:19:34people are excluded from the financial system and it's been rolled. out there relatively
00:19:38successfully for for financial inclusion purposes, that's not the case
00:19:42in the euro zone everybody who wants to have a bank account who wants to be included in the
00:19:46financial system already is, the people who are not chose
00:19:50not to be, and so that's why this idea of let's include more
00:19:54people that are currently excluded, the argument does not work in the eurozone,
00:19:57so that's why a take-up is the issue, it comes down to incentives, the latest
00:20:01proposal that i've seen is that the the deposits that you have in the digital wallet will not
00:20:05have any interest, now that's major sort of drawback compared to
00:20:09commercial deposits, especially if you assume that interest rates by the ECB
00:20:13are going to stay hard for longer now, that means commercial deposits are going to have an attractive interest
00:20:17rate, why would people keep any money or use the digital euro if it's just
00:20:21idle money attracting no
00:20:22interest?
00:20:27the infrastructure powering the booming AI industry is consuming
00:20:31massive amounts of electricity and water. new study shows
00:20:35data centers are raising the temperature. the ground around
00:20:39them, adding to environmental concerns, now affected
00:20:42communities are pushing back in protest, just
00:20:46give us your thoughts on the report and the environmental. impact
00:20:50these AI data centers, how worried are you about what you're
00:20:54seeing? I suppose we can add
00:20:58this to the list of consequences of data centers that we did not
00:21:01initially account for, and the list is already getting rather
00:21:05long, so we have the obvious things associated with data centers and
00:21:09power consumption being carbon emissions and being water
00:21:12consumption, now we're talking about heat islands uh, but at
00:21:16the same time you also have to think about other stuff like if you happen to
00:21:20be living near bio data center, it might not just be heat, it might also be the
00:21:23noise that is affecting you from these data centers. if you are living
00:21:27near the power generation source for these data centers, you might actually
00:21:31deal with level thermal pollution as well, because power plants
00:21:35tend to dump warmer water into whatever
00:21:39source of water they're using, um, which is
00:21:42another heat effect uh, that's just
00:21:46few things popping up uh these data center.
00:21:50is use uh potable water uh, lot of water
00:21:54evaporates, becomes unavailable for reuse, can accessibate local
00:21:57water scarcity, the list goes on and on, there are so many
00:22:01consequences and these research papers are shedding light
00:22:05on more and more these consequences, I think it's really important,
00:22:09as was already stated just now, that we keep in mind all these
00:22:13potential consequence that we are first aware them, and we we keep them
00:22:17in mind whenever we're building out this type of infrastructure, because otherwise
00:22:21we end up with an unsustainable situation. Thank you, Alex.
00:22:25Debra, does it strike you was odd that AI is racing ahead, this
00:22:28revolution, but there's no regulation. Um, no, it doesn't
00:22:32strike me as odd. I think this is um, is actually part the sort of human
00:22:36condition that we invent things and then
00:22:40we realize the consequences afterwards, and um,
00:22:44even H.G. Wells, the famous British author, talked about this something
00:22:48like hundred years ago, so... um it's it's
00:22:51not surprising and but the um I
00:22:55think that AI appeared or was sort of
00:22:58introduced into the public domain if you like through um chat
00:23:02gpt and similar uh programs but it's been
00:23:06very um but it's been under development for many years
00:23:09in used in academia and and parts of industry
00:23:13and so forth for much longer than it's uh you know prior to it
00:23:17being introduced into the public to moun domain for general
00:23:21use um and it's almost now we're trying to shut
00:23:25the stable door after the horse has bolted and so many people
00:23:29are really excited about it um and
00:23:32you know there's no definitely no going back um it's
00:23:36just um the lack of regulation and I think it
00:23:40does depend where you live um obviously
00:23:44there are very different attitudes in different continents to caring
00:23:48for the environment and so for. um, but we definitely do
00:23:52need some legislation in order to manage this, and
00:23:55be it through planning or whatever, we definitely need
00:23:59more legislation to not necessarily control
00:24:03use of AI, but to um
00:24:06influence, positively influence the location of
00:24:10data centers and so forth. Jane, I saw a statistic
00:24:14last week which shocked me, I'm from Ireland, as you know,
00:24:1822% of our electricity.
00:24:29got to think the the string and that's going on the electricity grid and we're still
00:24:33early days that's that's only going to increase um and and it's
00:24:37part of what frustrates me is when you see the the speed
00:24:40um that the infrastructure is being built i think if only
00:24:44that that energy and that intention and that will had been
00:24:48the same for for net zero. building renewable energy
00:24:51sources, we could have mitigated some the problems we are
00:24:55experiencing now, because we can't have uh
00:24:59communities come second place to data centers, we have to still
00:25:02be people and planet first. don't give me wrong, i am pro AI, i want to
00:25:06see adoption of AI, but not at the detriment
00:25:10of of communities and environments as well,
00:25:14so yeah, i am hoping that the data centers now are going
00:25:17to start to look at um other. sources their energy, you
00:25:21know, um, nuclear, small modular reactors, more
00:25:25renewable sources, I just we cannot go backwards and start to
00:25:29rely on fossil fuels again. Thank you. Alex, it
00:25:33strikes me that the data centers they're building now, were at the we're in the
00:25:36foothills the AI revolution. In years to come,
00:25:40these data centers will be mega centers and we'll need even more
00:25:44energy. Yeah, the power demand of data
00:25:47centers is exploding and fuel. look at the numbers
00:25:51by for example the UN university or the international energy
00:25:55agency, we see that data centers are already responsible
00:25:59for one and a half percent of global electricity consumption.
00:26:02and this number is generally expected to double in the coming few
00:26:06years, so by 2030 data centers might be using 3% of
00:26:10global electricity consumption, and a local number a local
00:26:14level these percentages can be lot higher. i know in my home country, the Netherlands
00:26:18data centers already represent 5% of our electricity grid, this number
00:26:21could also potentially double to 10% or more. um, these are
00:26:25staggering numbers that are using to provide power to
00:26:29one single sector, one single industry. uh and
00:26:33the weird thing is it's not even clear
00:26:36what we're getting back from
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00:27:20new chapter in Afghanistan insurrection and even an attempt in coup are just
00:27:24few to overthrow an autoocraph but you've seen the
00:27:28news essentially Israel is apartide
00:27:31state. but the newsmakers dives deeper, we have to stop
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00:27:53of you have failed, all of you have failed tunesia
00:27:56and the responsibility for dealing with that
00:28:00falls to the United Nations Security council. from every corner
00:28:04the globe, if fighting continues, what
00:28:07will there be left to fight for hundreds of thousands of not millions of
00:28:11people are left to
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00:30:15Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan signed defense pact pledging a
00:30:19joint response to attack any member. Turkish President,
00:30:23Richeb Tayp Erdogan says the alliance targets no
00:30:26country. United States, Iran and
00:30:29Oman appear to be edging closer to an inter agreement
00:30:33that could reopen the straight of horm. hello
00:30:37and welcome to TRT World Live from Istanbul, I'm Hasim Seaker
00:30:41also ahead on the program. in Colombia, right wing
00:30:45abelardoriya has been sworn in as the
00:30:48country's new president, amid
00:30:50protests. in Thailand, at least five
00:30:54people have been killed and more than 30 injured after teenager
00:30:58open fire a secondary school.