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00:02:52of of President
00:02:53of Trump in called it historic progress toward peace in
00:02:56Gaza. While another round of Israel-lebanon peace talks. include in
00:03:00Rome, so are any closer to actual
00:03:04of peace, if Israel still refuses to
00:03:06of withdraw, and Hamas and
00:03:08of Hezbulah refused to disarm. We'll look at the developments on both fronts on
00:03:12our newsmaker's week in review. Hailing it as a
00:03:15break through, President Trump said Hamas had agreed to put down its
00:03:19weapons. Meanwhile, July marked a surge in Palestinian
00:03:23of deaths under Israeli attack. So is the board of peace and its
00:03:2720-point plan delivering what it
00:03:29of promised? or distracting from
00:03:31a dire reality, plus, with dozens of towns
00:03:34occupied and Lebanon south still under attack, the US,
00:03:38Israel and Lebanon returned for seventh round of talks in
00:03:42Rome, but with Hesbolah refusing to disarm until Israel leaves,
00:03:45while Israel refuses to leave until Hezbulah dis arms, can
00:03:49peace talks really succeed? I'm Andrea Sanki, and
00:03:53this is the newsmakers, week in
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00:04:11Well, it's less and less common for developments in Gaza to overtake headlines
00:04:15nowadays, but last week, President Trump announced a
00:04:18breakthrough. He said,
00:04:19in a historic step toward peace and security, Hamas had agreed
00:04:23to complete disarmament, and Israel would withdraw from
00:04:27Gaza, but while he praised the news, Israel said little or
00:04:30nothing in response, and it soon became clear that all sides might
00:04:34not be on the same page. here's a
00:04:36look: what
00:04:39a it first sounded like an unimaginable breakthrough soon became a
00:04:43a confusing picture of who's expected to move
00:04:46first? while President Trump announced
00:04:49of days ago that Hamas is set to disarm as
00:04:53Israel with draws from Gaza, Israel did
00:04:56not confirm. an understanding with Israel, israel
00:05:01of and they've been very good, they've been very good
00:05:05about, most people said that would be deal that would be
00:05:07undoable, now in october 2025, hamas and
00:05:11israel in principal to a 20-point peace plan
00:05:15and road map for withdrawal, deal backed by
00:05:19Trump, but deep seated disagreements and differing
00:05:22interpretations how this withdrawal would happen have resulted
00:05:26in continued fighting. Israel has been accused of
00:05:30violating the October 2025 ceasefire over
00:05:333,700 times since that agreement was
00:05:37announced, according to government media office reports in
00:05:40Gaza. It was announced. already that there
00:05:44is road map implement these
00:05:47objectives, that road map must be followed
00:05:51without any question,
00:05:54skepticism or
00:05:58determination to undermine it. now is the
00:06:02time for both sides implement what was
00:06:05agreed. the latest disarmanment announcement is huge
00:06:09step, but like the 20 point peace plan, Again
00:06:13highlights just how different each side's understanding the deal
00:06:16is. Israel shared serious security
00:06:20concerns with the white house over the
00:06:22disarmament. They continued their air strikes on Gaza several
00:06:26times over the weekend, killing at least 17 people.
00:06:30Israeli authorities insist withdrawal from Gaza won't
00:06:34happen until Hamas has fully and
00:06:38verifiably disarmed and they want weapons destroyed or
00:06:42removed. beforehand, there is also the belief among Israeli
00:06:45intelligence that Hamas remains committed to rebuilding its
00:06:49military rather than genuinely
00:06:51demilitarizing, but Hamas demands that its own
00:06:55disarmament and Israel's withdrawal must happen
00:06:58simultaneously. It won't disarm first, and its
00:07:02full disarmament depends on Israeli's full withdrawal.
00:07:06Israel currently controls more than 60% of
00:07:10Gaza's territory. Israelis and Gazans
00:07:14are distrustful of each other, underlying the mistrust
00:07:18lies the scale of death. Israeli
00:07:21authorities say around 1,200 people
00:07:25were killed in Hamasled attacks since October
00:07:297th, 2023. Gaza health ministry figures
00:07:32show more than 73,000 Palestinians killed in
00:07:36the subsequent Israeli military invasion, with
00:07:40almost 175. a thous people
00:07:43wounded, many suffering permanent life-altering
00:07:47injuries. for now, while talk of hamast disarming
00:07:51seems a major shift and turning point, both sides
00:07:55seem to have completely ruled out agreeing to blink
00:07:58first. this means that even talk of hamas disarmanment
00:08:02in effect amounts to nothing, and nothing has
00:08:05changed on the ground. well, for many, it's hard to
00:08:09reconcile president Trump's enthusiasm for what he a
00:08:12breakthrough on the disarmament of Hamas with the reality on the
00:08:16ground, so I started by asking Ahmed Fuad Khatib,
00:08:20director the realind for Palestine Project at the Atlanta
00:08:23Council, what really has improved for Gazan since the 20
00:08:27point peace plan and the board of peace were first announced. I think we
00:08:31can quickly jettison the rhetoric of President Trump after all we've seen
00:08:35this deployed when it comes to Iran when it comes to a whole host of other
00:08:38foreign policy topics, so let's put that aside, the truth the matter is...
00:08:42virtually nothing um substantive when it comes
00:08:46to the actual 20 point plan has been implemented except for
00:08:50maybe the end of large scale military
00:08:53operations um the release of Israeli hostages, the release
00:08:57of uh Palestinian prisoners that were agreed upon um so
00:09:00so so that's that's that establishing the framework through which
00:09:04further negotiations can take place, but we're talking about
00:09:08scaffolding, I mean
00:09:09and I use the the term paralysis deliber. we're talking about the
00:09:13scaffolding of what needs to be implemented um being in
00:09:17place, but we're far from anywhere near what the
00:09:21president himself has set out with his ambitious agenda.
00:09:24again, i'm not looking to president trump necessarily for
00:09:28for the description or for the rhetoric, i'm looking for facts on the ground and i'm looking
00:09:32for the players to actually be serious about the implementation.
00:09:36okay, michael, i had asked earlier
00:09:39about the the timing and if the time timing
00:09:43here has another strategy at play, some
00:09:46feel that this is desperation on behalf of President Trump to
00:09:50distract from Iran, while in the mean
00:09:54to, at best, return to the miserable
00:09:57status quo that we had before October
00:10:007th,
00:10:02look,
00:10:04that that's a very appealing approach,
00:10:06and I'm afraid it's one that I would probably wind up agreen with, certainly I think from
00:10:10the Israeli point of view ' Certainly from what we've heard from most
00:10:14the candidates for Prime Minister in the upcoming Israeli elections in
00:10:18October, um, the thought would be, let's go back to October
00:10:216th, where we continue to uh to control.
00:10:25uh Gaza, IE externally, I think now the debate in
00:10:29Israel is shifted to maintaining a permanent or very
00:10:33long-lasting military presence in in Gaza, we certainly
00:10:36have large large cries coming from
00:10:40important Israely cabinet ministers including the minister of foreign
00:10:43affairs, the justice minister, the minister of national
00:10:46security and the finance minister about establishing
00:10:50permanent Israeli settlements in Israel, and we know
00:10:54that uh Israel has moved its line from 53% of a control
00:10:58uh in eastern Gaza
00:11:02further to around 65%, aim according
00:11:05to Benjamin Netannyahu would be to move that line forward to
00:11:0970% of of Gaza, so when it's we realize it's
00:11:13taken nine months from the passage the
00:11:17UN security council resolution 2803 to get to
00:11:21this very minimal space we are at now.
00:11:25we have to ask who does the lack of urgency wind up
00:11:29benefiting and
00:11:30it would seem to benefit uh the the Israelis and the idea
00:11:33of some kind of permanent control or
00:11:37indeed sovereignty over large parts of of Gaza, it
00:11:41certainly does not benefit the 2.1 million
00:11:44Palestinians, which is who were living before October
00:11:472023, an already overcrowded, densely
00:11:51populated area
00:11:53now being pushed. into one third of that under
00:11:56extraordinary unlivable conditions, living in tense under
00:12:00the immense heat, or in the winter living intense under the immense
00:12:04coal, with no future being
00:12:08designed for them with respect to the rebuilding of gaza or the inflow
00:12:12the $30 billion dollars over the next two years that have been promised under
00:12:15the board of peace, you know what, you'll see who would
00:12:19fully monitor Hamas's disarmament in the first place that would
00:12:23be trusted.
00:12:25and who will stop some hamas supporters from
00:12:28rearming? are are we ever going to get to the logistical
00:12:32disarmament with peacekeepers and an
00:12:35international uh enforcement mechanism on the
00:12:38ground? i think that's why the
00:12:42the pressure should come from from
00:12:44from from all directions,
00:12:45you know we have influence either on Israel or hamas and
00:12:49the the the the palestinian
00:12:51authority needs to needs to exert.
00:12:56this this pressure to ensure that no one is going back to their bad
00:13:00habits, because Hamas understand that if it's los its
00:13:03military wing and becomes only a political, only
00:13:07inverted commerce, a political movement, social movement
00:13:11has the way it started, it might lose some of some of of
00:13:15of its influence, it has to play into into the
00:13:19wider political agenda within Palestine,
00:13:23so the idea that all there is...
00:13:25is sequence,
00:13:25but there are a lot of issues that need to be addressed at the same time, at the end the
00:13:29day still the United States is the main player, but then whether it's
00:13:33Egypt, Turkey, Morocco, Qatar and
00:13:37other countries, everyone needs to play their part that
00:13:41all sides are abide by by by the agreement,
00:13:45otherwise we know what's what's from the experience that they go back to
00:13:49their bad habits, but part of it, we haven't talked about
00:13:53for instance elections in palest. having new leadership there,
00:13:57also create a political horizon that people in both
00:14:00societies are going to subscribe, to we don't see
00:14:04that.
00:14:09well, it's obvious you have to manage expectations when a leave negotiator says
00:14:13peace talks shouldn't move too quickly. that is not what
00:14:17hundreds of thousands of displace lebanese want to hear. desperate to
00:14:21return home to the south, some have made their way back to villages left.
00:14:25ruins with occupying Israeli forces never far away, it's
00:14:29added more hardship to the country marking six years since
00:14:33its capital city was virtually destroyed in the Bayrut port
00:14:36explosion, so while Lebanon's people remain as resilient as
00:14:40ever, will they actually get the peace and accountability they
00:14:43deserve? here's a look: the latest
00:14:47Israel lebanon talks aren't about negotiating another peace
00:14:51deal, they're about assessing whether the one already.
00:14:55agreed can actually work. For the first time since
00:14:581993, Israeli and Lebanese officials have been meeting
00:15:02directly, marking diplomatic breakthrough after decades
00:15:06without face to face talks, but turning that breakthrough into
00:15:10peace may prove far more difficult. At the heart
00:15:14the framework is faced Israeli withdrawal from southern
00:15:18Lebanon. The first test is series of so-called pilot
00:15:22zones. Under the plan is really forced. would gradually
00:15:25withdraw, the Lebanese Army would take over security and the
00:15:29model would then be expanded elsewhere, but after weeks
00:15:33of negotiations, only one pilot zone has been
00:15:36implemented. That slow progress reflects
00:15:40a deeper problem. Every stage the framework depends on another
00:15:44one. Israel once Hezbulah disarmed before completing his
00:15:48withdrawal. Hezbulah insists there will be no
00:15:51disarmment while Israely troops remain inside
00:15:54Lebanon. The talks also expose one the biggest
00:15:58gaps in the process. Hezbulah remains outside the
00:16:01negotiations and rejects the very premise it's built
00:16:05on. We consider that all direct
00:16:09negotiations with Israel have brought nothing but shame,
00:16:12humiliation, disappointment and continuous
00:16:15concessions. The divisions are not confined
00:16:18to the negotiating table, Israeli military operations have
00:16:22continued across southern Lebanon, raising concerns that
00:16:26implementation remains far more fragile than the agreement
00:16:30itself. The UN interrum force in Lebanon continues to
00:16:33observe daily Israeli violations of Lebanese airspace.
00:16:38Between Thursday and Sunday, peacekeepers recorded 125 air
00:16:41violations with a combined total overflight time exceeding
00:16:45418 hours. Surveillance and arm
00:16:49drones were observed near or above unifill positions in both
00:16:52sectors. Peacekeepers also report extensive military activity
00:16:56on the ground in south Lebanon, including significant engineering works and
00:17:00active troop movements. For displaced Lebanese, that's delaying
00:17:03any return to normal life. Some families have gone. back to
00:17:07their villages, many others are still waiting with Israeli
00:17:11troops remaining in parts the south and entire communities left
00:17:15in ruins. We can say that the
00:17:19matter cannot be measured in terms of time, but rather in terms
00:17:23of solutions, and the solutions are very complicated when
00:17:27it comes to completely withdrawing Hesboolah's weapons from within
00:17:31Lebanon. The issue goes beyond the national sphere, it
00:17:35may even have regional dimension. Therefore, I
00:17:39believe that the timeline for the Israeli occupation will be a
00:17:43long time. The negotiations have reached a new
00:17:46stage. The diplomacy and the conflict, however,
00:17:50still appear to be moving on two very different tracks.
00:17:54So, are the pilot zones in southern Lebanon working, and are they
00:17:58the best indicator of real progress toward peace? I put that to
00:18:02public policy fellow at the American University of Beirot, Rami
00:18:05Hori. Well, they're working. as they're supposed to
00:18:08work, which is to reaffirm Israeli-American
00:18:12superiority and and sovereign
00:18:15control over South Lebanon and forcing the
00:18:19Lebanese government to comply with what Israel
00:18:23wants, so in that respect they are working. Most
00:18:27the world doesn't think, I think most the region and much the world
00:18:31doesn't think this is a really fair and
00:18:34legitimate and equitable process.
00:18:38"and like the board of peace in in
00:18:42Gaza and some the
00:18:45things that were developed with Iran and the US
00:18:49under American pressure, these are not
00:18:52serious peace processes
00:18:55or movement towards a
00:18:59mechanism for peaceful coexistence in the long
00:19:03run, unlike say what you saw in Northern Ireland or Southern Africa
00:19:07which did" lead to an equitable peace, so in that
00:19:10respect, no, they're not, they're not real progress
00:19:13in the long run, and they, but if they can
00:19:17spark push by all
00:19:21sides to get to the next stage that is more
00:19:24equitable, for instance, the Lebanese should determine where do
00:19:28the Israelis withdraw from in phase two, and phase one, the Israeli said we're
00:19:32getting out these areas, some of which they didn't even occupy, phase two,
00:19:36maybe Lebanon. should say, well, these are the villages you got to get out of,
00:19:40and these are the areas you have to stop bombing. something like that
00:19:44could rectify the imbalances now, but that
00:19:47rarely happens, but we'll just have to wait and see. the lebanese are very talented
00:19:51people, but it depends on whether the US comes down
00:19:55equitably for Israel and lebanon or continues to
00:19:59push a process that favors what Israel wants. so you're saying
00:20:03that the pilot zones could somehow spark the...
00:20:07real progress, but there's this overlying
00:20:11concern that, well Israel has definitely highlighted this,
00:20:14that Hezbulah will try to return to these pilot
00:20:18zones once it's established that the Lebanese army is
00:20:22in control. do you see that
00:20:25as as something quite possible, or
00:20:28is are you suspicious that Israel is looking for excuses to either
00:20:32stay as an occupier or be able to return
00:20:36later? uh, the you now Hizballah is issue but
00:20:40it's not the issue, the issue is the
00:20:43tensions between Zionist colonial
00:20:47expansion, American support for that. and
00:20:50inadequate Lebanese and Arab government systems
00:20:54and foreign manipulation ferance
00:20:58in the region since the 1920s, that's the real
00:21:01problem. So the hisballah is willing to
00:21:04make like Hamas and Palestine is willing to make
00:21:08reasonable concessions if the
00:21:11core root the problem is addressed, which is Israeli
00:21:15occupation and okay
00:21:19hamas. Hazballah was born to push back Israel to
00:21:23get them
00:21:23out of Lebanon, they weren't born for anything else. Okay, I'm going
00:21:27to follow up with that in just second with Joe, but first I have to
00:21:31ask akiva, because on the Israeli
00:21:34side, I i mentioned the suspicions that Israel already has
00:21:38and it's also said that it it has to verify
00:21:42somehow that Hazbullah has disarmed, how would
00:21:45that ever happen, and I mean then you have to also...
00:21:50the suspicions that Israel has that the Lebanese army is somehow going to
00:21:53cooperate with Hezballah because that's
00:21:57just what they do, and again it opens the door to
00:22:01prolonged occupation. well, I can
00:22:05tell you when it's probably not going to happen,
00:22:09and this is between now to October
00:22:1227th till the the elections in Israel,
00:22:15because what the current government is
00:22:19doing is look... looking at every strategic
00:22:22question from you know through the lenses
00:22:26the balloting boxes to
00:22:30the elections and right now they are
00:22:33still having a problem convincing the
00:22:37communities in the Israeli north there was a kind of symmetry
00:22:41that we're doing between the
00:22:44Israeli refugees that had to leave
00:22:48their homes during the... war that started all
00:22:52this and started the reoccupation of
00:22:55southern Lebanon, and they are also
00:22:59demanding some kind of guarantees
00:23:02from the current government that it will not happen to
00:23:06them again, there are still people who moved to
00:23:10the center of Israel and they are not back yet because they don't
00:23:14feel safe, so Netanyahu right now is
00:23:18looking every... morning at the polls
00:23:21and he's not happy with what he sees
00:23:24and probably the good
00:23:28news is that in October
00:23:31we will have another government that will look
00:23:35at the Israeli international
00:23:38relationship and public relations of Israel a
00:23:42different way, different from what Netanyahu was
00:23:46suggesting a super sparta, he said in on the... in the
00:23:50kn that he sees himself as the
00:23:53Israeli churchil that
00:23:56offers um kind
00:23:59of blood tears and
00:24:03sweat with no deadline
00:24:06and the other problem is that even the
00:24:10Israeli opposition, the leaders the
00:24:13parties that will probably be in power are not
00:24:17mentioning anything about with from Lebanon
00:24:21or even talking about the two state
00:24:23solution, there is no leadership
00:24:27that is suggesting a deadline for the
00:24:31Israeli occupation and timeline, they are
00:24:35talking about sequence, first they have to stop terrorism, first
00:24:39we have to this make sure that to disarm
00:24:42hisballah and the hamas, but they
00:24:46don't offer anything, they are blaming government for out
00:24:50sourcing Israel's security, outsourcing to the Lebanese
00:24:54government, to President Trump when it comes to Iran
00:24:57and to the new peace council
00:25:01in in Gaza. Okay, um, let me come back
00:25:05to Joe in Beirut, because I need to pick up on
00:25:09something that Rami had said, he he seems to have some confidence
00:25:12that Hezbulah would act in good
00:25:16faith if um Israel were to to withdraw.
00:25:21However, Hesboolah says that these talks alone have brought so much, shame and
00:25:25humiliation to Lebanon, but at the same time many Lebanies actually
00:25:28feel humiliated by Hezbulah, because it's a non-state actor
00:25:32that they say has seated their sovereignty
00:25:36to foreign power, and that the Hezball goes goes ahead and
00:25:40makes unilateral decisions to attack Israel and then complains
00:25:44on behalf of Iran for that matter, and then complains that the constitution
00:25:48is being violated because... "they didn't get to agree to
00:25:52negotiations, so how dangerous is that
00:25:56difference of opinion alone within
00:25:59Lebanon? I mean, regardless
00:26:02the emotion and ideological differences that
00:26:06are very you know a high level and level on for
00:26:10me, i like to focus on how how the policies
00:26:13are, obviously we have now
00:26:17two visions of foreign policies in in one is
00:26:20betting on what's happening on talks, the other
00:26:24one is betting on on the talks with direct
00:26:27directly with Israel through yes mediation and neither can
00:26:30reach very clear. solution now we have
00:26:34a framework agreement, we have especially security annex, you mentioned the
00:26:38pilot zones, they don't address the core the
00:26:42problem which has been in the last two years since the last
00:26:45is fire in November 2024 is how you deal with the
00:26:49issue of disarmment and withdrawal, they tried the step
00:26:53by step, netanyahu government refused, now they are trying to violent
00:26:57zone, are
00:27:01some structural problems, security annex that makes the
00:27:05the framework agreement unable to reach that, it's going to stop at some point because neither
00:27:08Israel, neither hisb and there are no
00:27:12mechanism to force them to do this, so the agreement was was signed
00:27:16on the assumption that hizballah will voluntary
00:27:19accept, because neither Israel government
00:27:22can disarm by force as we saw in in the
00:27:26last year, so it's a very complex issue, part of
00:27:30it, it has to be related. decision in Tehran because
00:27:34the US Iran talks, part of it are leban Israeli,
00:27:38long decades of
00:27:41oftension, especially what
00:27:45most ofceive as continuous
00:27:48Israeli aggression as we see in the last truck in Beirout just
00:27:52before the last spire, and we have problems inside Lebanon, which is the
00:27:56relation between the government and how it will be
00:27:59after after these... or whatever is happening
00:28:03on the border, so those are all complex issue, but but the
00:28:07framework agreement presented by the US now or in this
00:28:11talks doesn't desolve resolve the same
00:28:14the core dilemma or the core problem in what's happening
00:28:17at south level, and there you have the best of our
00:28:21newsmakers for this week, thanks so much for being with us and remember to follow us on
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00:29:25hands, newsfeed on trt
00:29:28world.
00:30:12Beyond the game on TRT
00:30:14World.
00:30:30They've cared for our forests and oceans for general.
00:30:34rations, but how much are we really listening to the world's indigenous
00:30:37peoples? i had an interviews like this once and
00:30:41they changed almost 40 percentage what i
00:30:45said. coming up from Panama to the Pacific, we here why protecting
00:30:49culture and protecting the planet often go hand in
00:30:52hand and why even