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00:02:29my hotel, it was the oldest of business.
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00:02:58Is it possible to stand? the way of nature and
00:03:02win,
00:03:07we're with those trying to stop disasters like
00:03:10this.
00:03:17village wiped out
00:03:20scenario where the entire with hundreds of other communities at risk. what
00:03:23do you do when a melting glacier slips and brings half a mountain side
00:03:26down onto your community? can such.
00:04:00It has been moving about 3 meters per year, two years ago,
00:04:03now it's down to 5 cm, so it has slowed dramatically
00:04:07due to the effects of the
00:04:09tunnel.
00:04:13Improbable or possible,
00:04:15welcome to be on borders.
00:04:34'the contrast between our surroundings and what happened in
00:04:37this valley could hardly be greater. It is
00:04:41a still summer's day in the Swiss
00:04:43Alps
00:04:46and this man will show us what he filmed as his world
00:04:49was torn apart in May
00:04:522025.
00:04:56The inhabitants of Blatton had been warned and evacuated from their...
00:05:03Homes, one man died outside of what was considered to
00:05:06be the danger
00:05:11back up the mountain, he talks of area uh... 'we had 300
00:05:13habitants, so everybody knew everybody,
00:05:17yeah, of course, and your relatives with nearly
00:05:20everybody,
00:05:23i was up in the alp, i was right in the face, so i was really on
00:05:27the face of the landslight, i see
00:05:30it life, never thought that it will happen, that really the
00:05:34houses is are away, lucas
00:05:37calbermatton's hotel was destroyed as rocks, the
00:05:40size of buses traveling at
00:05:59this this part of the roof we two weeks before,
00:06:12Lucas recorded the moment a glacial lake burst its
00:06:15banks and a mountain
00:06:17slipped
00:06:22scheiße,
00:06:32and then i stopped filming because when i would go
00:06:35down i would see some houses and i wouldn't film like
00:06:38the house is going, the landslide was caused. by
00:06:42melting perma frost described as the
00:06:45glue that holds ice to the rocks
00:06:48underneath. Lucas says it won't be the end
00:06:51of blatan. what is safe? why people living on the
00:06:55volcano enough? why do people go back in indonesia
00:06:59where there were the tsunami? it's the memories you have, the the
00:07:02heritage you have, the childhood where you played and
00:07:05everything. we lost the neighborhood, we lost the church, we lost all the
00:07:09memories you had in this small village to be there. and why
00:07:13why we want to rebuild the village there is is uh
00:07:16because there is our heritage, so we construction this village for the next
00:07:20generation. Lucas is now running another hotel
00:07:24nearby, built from scratch in
00:07:27105 days. he's in
00:07:30partnership with Esther Belvald who also
00:07:33lost her hospitality business on that
00:07:36day. I felt very, very, very secure in
00:07:41the valley. so it's she wants to stay and believes
00:07:45her young sons will do the same. Esther
00:07:48still can't believe what happened to her village, so
00:07:52you sometimes think it's a bad dream, a bad dream or science fiction
00:07:56or yeah, I'm still living in a movie,
00:07:59sometimes I think the mind and the heart or the
00:08:02soul are not
00:08:05connected with all this with reality, yeah,
00:08:09yeah,
00:08:12the... Villages maar takes us to the end of what was the road into
00:08:15blatan until it was blocked, new one is being
00:08:19built. So what is your hope, your big
00:08:23hope for the future? Will there be town of blatan again with people
00:08:27living there? 2029,
00:08:31people who want to return can return. That is not
00:08:34your hope, that is the
00:08:37goal, to revive culture and
00:08:40tradition.
00:08:45"they've even managed with true swiss neatness to keep the
00:08:48grass nicely
00:08:50mown.
00:08:53until the new road is finished, the only way into blatten, one
00:08:57kilometer away is a half-hour drive via a
00:09:01high mountain track. you can really
00:09:04see it now,
00:09:05look,
00:09:09oh my god, Okay,
00:09:13yeah,
00:09:16look how stupid it is,
00:09:28down next to lake formed by the collapse is what was once a
00:09:32community, mostly now
00:09:34submerged.
00:09:52I think it will take a long time, because
00:09:55nature needs time to clean up the rest of this
00:09:58debris until everything is green again, until a forest
00:10:02grows there again and so on, so we will see
00:10:05these scars in nature for a long time, they simply
00:10:09belong now.
00:10:19Nature is so powerful, when we see how quickly it
00:10:22happened.
00:10:25This combination is so unusual, that the material was on
00:10:29the glacier and then the glacier simply collapsed.
00:10:32We're a journey across the
00:10:36Swiss Alps and an hour's drive from Blatten we take to the
00:10:39skies to understand what's causing such catastrophes
00:10:43and to see how scientists and
00:10:45engineers are trying to control the forces of
00:10:49nature.
00:11:00"you can see where the dabbories come down off the mountain, there's still a
00:11:04lot of water coming down, but that's because the glacial lake itself has
00:11:08overflowed,
00:11:10here you see the road that has been cut,
00:11:14how did you even know this had happened here? there are some people that
00:11:18are uh observing all natural hazards and
00:11:21processes in the valley and they reported it."
00:11:28so here we are at the the place where there was a
00:11:31lake, we're landing in what was it,
00:11:33exactly, it's not mady, we're not going to sink into it,
00:11:37no, i don't think
00:11:41so,
00:11:44we have to be quick though, it's
00:11:45quick,
00:11:51the set glacier which starts at more than f
00:11:56me above sea level. Switzerland glaciers have shrunk by
00:11:5940% this century, and the melt water
00:12:03from this one formed lake that burst its banks and
00:12:07brought rock, ice and water into the valley
00:12:10below.
00:12:13We're standing on what was the bed of the lake until all
00:12:16the water flowed out of it. It's still very, very mud. You can see behind
00:12:20me, well, in fact you can't see the glacier, it's now being covered by rock and
00:12:23dairy. That was... what we could see then the
00:12:26CES glacier completely covered behind there
00:12:30too and you can see the water coming down here, this lake is unlikely ever to fill up
00:12:34again, it's been breached, but it's others where that could happen that
00:12:37they're particularly worried about. this
00:12:41glaceologist tells us that there are more than 600 high mountain lakes
00:12:44in this area alone that could pose a
00:12:47threat. she's working too with scientists in
00:12:51other nearby alpine countries. yeah, there are different types.
00:12:55of measures that you can you can do, so the first one is to put it
00:12:59under surveillance to know how it evolves, you know,
00:13:02like there are some lakes that you know where the level is going up and
00:13:06down and up and down, which is maybe a bit more critical, then
00:13:10if we really have to do something um, you
00:13:13can put some pipes and trying to pump out the water, can you
00:13:17stop this? no, no, you cannot, that's uh,
00:13:21that's too big, they are glaciers are retreating.
00:13:25'uh, if we don't stop uh, the carbon emissions, the
00:13:28glacier will continue retreating and new lakes will
00:13:32form. is there a danger that there could be num in the
00:13:35future? uh, so it's it's not a danger,
00:13:39it's a very likely probability to that
00:13:42the hundreds of glaciers, i think it's about 700 that we
00:13:46have on the valley territory, they will disappear
00:13:49by the end of the century, so in 75 years
00:13:52from now, there won't be any..." glacier
00:13:55anymore.
00:14:002 hours from the sasseet glacier we come to a reservoir where
00:14:04melt water can be stored.
00:14:07the amount of ice that's disappeared can only be
00:14:10imagined at the top of this dam which supplies water
00:14:14for hydroelectric power. had
00:14:17Rolf Vingardner been able to stand here in the last ice age
00:14:2120,000 years ago, the top of a
00:14:24glacier. would have been 300 meters above his
00:14:27head. snow is changing, also
00:14:31permafrost is changing, so they have lot of big
00:14:35changes, but everything is governed um by
00:14:38temperature and we know the how the future will
00:14:41be.
00:14:44there is a short-term dividend though, for a country that gets
00:14:4760% of its power in the form of
00:14:50hydroelectricity.
00:14:52this glace has been there all the... time and now we're
00:14:56losing it and now we are profit, the energy
00:14:59production is profiting of let's say 20,
00:15:0330, 40 years depending on the size of the glacier, but then
00:15:07when the glacier has been gone then is this additional water which is in the
00:15:10system is not there anymore and then we are again
00:15:14on the downside
00:15:18here below the dam daniel burky shows us where the
00:15:21electricity is produced to be used in valleys.
00:15:25nearby - the turbine, that's a
00:15:27turbine,
00:15:36the dangers to power company.
00:15:47It is true that we are aware that there are such
00:15:50areas, which we monitor. What is happening to
00:15:54it? Yes, the permafrost is thawing due to these rising
00:15:57temperatures, which we have had significantly since
00:16:01about 1980,
00:16:04about one square kilometer.
00:16:37much longer, the Rone glacier was once the
00:16:41largest in
00:16:42Europe,
00:16:50there is a time every year called glacier lost day, when
00:16:54snow put down in winter has gone and ancient ice is
00:16:57exposed to the sun and starts to
00:17:00melt,
00:17:05because of heat wave while we're here, the... that day has
00:17:08arrived, it's happened much earlier than had been
00:17:12hoped,
00:17:14the this glacier smell now three times
00:17:18faster than the model uh show
00:17:21us 10 years ago, 340 years we
00:17:24have practical water here, the
00:17:27water is very important for the people here, for the tourism
00:17:31also for the agriculture, but the waters
00:17:34goes back and back and back, And I
00:17:38think the Switzerland is the water storage of the whole
00:17:42Europe.
00:17:45This glaciers melting so rapidly they try to save some of the ice
00:17:49by keeping it under sheeting here, but that in turn could be
00:17:52causing problems with microplastics from the
00:17:55blankets going into the water, the water going down into the valley
00:17:58and other water sources being
00:18:01polluted.
00:18:09Where we're heading next, the dangers are not from retreating
00:18:12glaciers, but from rising temperatures, which have
00:18:16brought more rain than
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00:18:22When glaciers melt, river levels rise, the
00:18:25stability of slopes nearby is lost, and this
00:18:29is the result,
00:18:32what's known locally as the feo
00:18:34crack.
00:18:39'It's getting wider at alarming rate, and the
00:18:42fear is that 1 million cubic meters of land
00:18:45are at risk of falling in a landslide.
00:18:49If this carries on like this, what will happen? It
00:18:52will all disappear. There are two scenarios, the massive
00:18:57mass descends at once, and that will create
00:19:01a plug, a dam in the river, and there is a
00:19:04risk of a lake forming upstream that can extend
00:19:08several hundred meters upstream, and then in case of this
00:19:11lake overflowing, there will be a significant flood towards the villages
00:19:14downstream, and so here with constant monitoring
00:19:18using highly sensitive instruments, it's hoped there will
00:19:22be enough warning if a land slide is imminent and homes can
00:19:26then be evacuated.
00:19:29with the rain and the wind
00:19:32and this slope here, it would
00:19:35probably be safer to go back to the car. Okay, okay,
00:19:38simple.
00:19:44The dangers of thowing permafroster clear at our
00:19:47next destination, where the difference between imminent
00:19:50disaster and scientific success
00:19:53is clear. In Brians in 2023, there was
00:19:57a huge rock fall, and the people here had lucky
00:20:01escape. 2 million cubic meters of rock
00:20:05hurtling down the mountain in the middle of... tonight, the equivalent they say of
00:20:082,000 family homes and stopping what,
00:20:1240 mes from what used to be the village school, a
00:20:16place they now plan to turn into a community
00:20:19center.
00:20:24now they've managed to put a break nature by building a 2
00:20:27km drainage tunnel under the Briensa
00:20:30rot horn to take water out of the rocks and
00:20:33stabilize the surroundings, the mountain isn't slip.
00:20:37as much as it used to,
00:20:41the geologists have seen that water is key to the whole
00:20:44movement, if you can take water out, if you can lower water
00:20:48pressure, the whole glide will will not be that
00:20:52fast because it's not a very steep area here where we stand, all
00:20:56the area where we stand is gliding, not only the rock part we see from the
00:20:59outside that something must be moving, but this part here is
00:21:03moving too, it has been moving about the meters per year, two
00:21:07years ago, now it's down to 5 cm, so it has slowed
00:21:10dramatically due to the effects of the
00:21:13tunnel,
00:21:16in the first eight months of 2026 there were
00:21:19and... dented number of rock falls in Europe's high
00:21:22mountains. This is part of the Mata horn
00:21:26on the Swiss Italian border, collapsing in
00:21:29August.
00:21:34We're doubling back now to town just over the mountain from
00:21:38Blatton.
00:21:45One in six Swiss Homes is in what's called a
00:21:48hazard zone. It cost. the swiss government one and a half
00:21:51billion dollars a year to protect and in some cases to
00:21:55rebuild.
00:21:59Kandasteg has one of the country's busiest railway tunnels
00:22:03used to transport thousands of vehicles each day so that a
00:22:07long journey around the mountains is avoided. Up
00:22:10above the towering Spitzerstein is
00:22:13slipping at up to 7 every
00:22:16year.
00:23:22It's all this talk about the red zone unnecessary, it's important to
00:23:25know what happened, but it's necessary to know
00:23:28that it's not a dangered place, it's not the same
00:23:31place as Plattan, it's a very different
00:23:35position here, it's a very different danger, and what
00:23:39about rockfalls, is that the people exaggerate it? that's
00:23:42normal, rock fall is normal, all the way you
00:23:45have everywhere a little bit rockfall, sometime a little bit
00:23:49more, then it's dangerous. but a little bit rockfall is everywhere, the
00:23:52day a day like this, beautiful day, we have 8 to 10,00 people per
00:23:56day, only here in Kanderstake, they come in the morning, they
00:23:59go away in the evening, so can't be so
00:24:03dangerous, despite the shadow their living under,
00:24:07we're told that no one thinks of moving
00:24:10out.
00:24:22This once was a way of issuing warnings across vast
00:24:25distances, and if there are now modern ways of trying to head
00:24:29off further disasters, then there are also those
00:24:32resourceful enough to find the means to protect one of
00:24:36Switzerland's biggest earners, alpine
00:24:39sports.
00:24:48In Davos, artificial is made when it's cold enough, then
00:24:52covered in a blanket of sawdust through the summer, they
00:24:55lose only 20% through evaporation, even
00:24:59when temperatures reach 30 degrees as they did on
00:25:02the day of our
00:25:03visit.
00:25:08this hill of snow means a 4 kilometer cross country
00:25:12ski track in Davos is in use much earlier than similar
00:25:16runs in other resorts. it's been a very hot.
00:25:50and then a return to briance of the oh so
00:25:53close rock fall. those
00:25:56whose families had called this home for generations were forced
00:25:59out for more than year until recently. they've been
00:26:03given 48 hours
00:26:05notice.
00:26:09when George and Bonifazi was at the school here, he says
00:26:13landslides were considered fun to watch and not really
00:26:17danger.
00:26:20he's back now on his farm after having had to leave
00:26:23for 18 months and
00:26:27sick
00:26:28cow.
00:26:31has anybody been a
00:27:02absolutely without any support.
00:27:06I understand the people who don't come back. I mean, they've been
00:27:10away for a year and a half now
00:27:13and some have already settled elsewhere and found other
00:27:17ways and you can't force them to come
00:27:20back, that's very clear. My hope
00:27:24is that as few buildings
00:27:28as possible will be torn down, that means only buildings with major damage
00:27:31and the other buildings
00:27:34and that they will be re-inhabited
00:27:38most preferably, and that the lights will be on everywhere again
00:27:42as before and that we can live normally in peace
00:27:45again, that would actually be my greatest
00:27:48and my biggest
00:27:51wish.
00:27:56from his home is as natural as the forces of
00:27:59nature themselves and if the scientists the
00:28:02glaciologists, the engineers and all those protecting
00:28:06Switzerland can further tame those forces than
00:28:09tomorrow, should hold no fear, he
00:28:12says.
00:28:16Not just for him, this farmer believes, but also for
00:28:19those still waiting to return to Briance, and others who
00:28:23may yet decide to make their homes in this
00:28:27vast, dramatic and ever-changing
00:28:30landscape.
00:28:50The Balkans is at the crossroads of
00:28:53history, foreign influence has always weighed
00:28:57heavily on the people,
00:29:00the war in Ukraine has tested. the fragile
00:29:03car.
00:29:08as global powers consider their next steps, few
00:29:12take into consideration what the people here
00:29:14want.
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00:29:33and never content with the answer,
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00:30:10Saudi Arabia strikes in Yemen's Taiz
00:30:13after Hothi attacks injured 13 civilians as fighting escalates
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00:30:23Harvey. Also this hour Iran's revolutionary guard says an oil
00:30:26tanker has exploded and caught fire after hitting mines
00:30:30while sailing through the straight of Horamos.
00:30:34Ukraine's president says his country is ready to de-escalate the war
00:30:38if Russia does the same. President Trump says that both sides have
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